Joan brought Bob to the masses, in a way that BD couldnt. Most people i talk to say she was more appealing, her voice draws you in. Bob wrote it she sang it..
I'm not directly replying to AmericanFenian on here because he'll just retort with nonsense. Then again, those defending Dylan are acting equally childish. Behan adapted the melody of Patriot Games from The Merry Month of May. Dylan later wrote this obviously using the same melody. That's what folk singers do. That's folk. The same good songs played throughout the ages. Dylan did an honest parody out of disagreement. Why credit one who he disagrees with?
Fuck this song Dylan ripped off Dominic Behan and then acted like he didn't. Had he asked I'm sure he would have been allowed to use Dominic Behan's music. The Patriot Game is a far better ballad anyways.
@StevePalRP I'm with ya. This is an honest parody out of a flat-out disagreement over the value of conflict. And, being the nature of folk music, these melodies are played throughout the ages, revolving around the same topics - only played by many people.
Are you sure Patriot Games takes after "The Nightingale?" I've read that it was "The Merry Month of May." Both sound very similar imo.
@Tlax13 I'd hardly say Dylan shamefully stole this song. He did a lot of covers in the early days, and I don't think he's ever laid claim to have written this song?
@daiellis Dylan did write this song. Joan Baez covered Dylan a lot at the time and still does to this day. Check out Wikipedia. It says Dylan is the songwriter.
She never sang at Gerde's Folk City where Bob Dylan got his start. They served alcohol at Gerdie's. I'm 72 years old and visited Folk City often as a young man. It would have been nice to hear her sing there. I'm talking about the original Gerde's on Fourth Street. I never visited the club after it moved to Third.
@Tlax13 Good tunes like the good things in life are ment to be shared.. Dylan hung out with the Clancy brothers in "The white Horse Tavern" so they shared more than the tunes i think Liam stole Dylans Girl.. or was it Dylan stole his no matter....So many american and Irish Folk tunes have crossed back and forth...They are more borrowed rather stolen as long as they create music for a new generation to listen to.. that what counts..
Been listenning to her Dylan Covers and I like them all. I like her voice a lot. Anyone into Joan's music, please check my band on this channel. Any feedback would be appreciated, coming from people with nice musical taste (if you're here, :) Thanks. Peace.
Lovely rendition from Joan - of course an Americanisation of Dominic Behan's 'Patriot Game' which can be found on YouTube. Patriotism being the last refuge of the scoundrel - here's hoping you can't fool all the people all of the time! :)
Don't blame the soldier. Soldiers love their country and believe their leaders. Soldiers do so what others don't have the courage to do. No matter what uniform they wear or what side they are on, they are doing what their country ask. When the fighting is over they have to pick up their lives. want to blame someone, blame yourself. Bullshit from our leaders, hate from our citizens. Look how we are acting, a handful of nuts kill a few thousand and our thirst for blood has not abated God is LOL
@slowpokecat real courage is standing up to your leaders and saying "I don't agree, there's a better way." Its not courage to thirst after blood under god and government sanction. "Doing what your country asks" is just the cowardice to question your country
What a load of shit. Those who "murdered six million" were punished and executed. There has never been much difference between the Germans and Americans so they made sensible allies. Not to mention excellent soldiers. With war imment againt the eastern hordes we needed every ally we could get.
yep, and by that time, 1966, nazi-germany was still not over, judges, etc. nazis still were in office, in frg-westgermany. due to cold war they seemed to be"better" than communists, due to western view. change came 1968. in frankfurt&berlin(west).
greetings from berlin
p.s. even in us of a they employed nazis. wernher von braun. moonshot. remember?
My Two Cents : I came from a background of a Jewish father turned atheist in the war, and a french roman catholic mother who spoke little english, when she came to this country. After they married they put all talk of religion aside and allowed me to find my own way.
In my late teens or early twenties, i can't remember now. After a normal childhood and exceptional social life, i had a long lasting experience where I was filled with the Holy Spirit.
When this happens there is no mistaking it. To discount the existance of God and Christ consciouness is a mistake and quite a loss.
Since that experience i have had occasion to see quotes from the Bible in print, and have even looked briefly at parts of the Bible, and I can see that there are many truths written in the words of Jesus.
It might serve us all better, not to let toxic man (and his actions based on his toxic interpretation of a Spiritual Master who cleansed his Temple of the Living Spirit to discern what was written in his heart) influence your final answer.
Just one word to my American, British etc. friends: We love you! We will always love you because you freed us from the Nazi dictatorship! We love you, we love your countries (we really do!) and we're grateful because you freed us when we hadn't got the courage to do it on our own!
You can find all that information on Wikipedia. Basically they dated till about '64 then Bob met Sara who he later married. He was seeing both Joan and Sara at the same time at one point and Baez ended up showing up at his apartment one day and Sara answered the door which basically ended things between them.
Just read an article about boys that were raped and mishandled in Christian institutions. The Church wanted to stifle their stories of which there are so many. Thus I had to think of this song. Those hypocrites think they can do anything "with god on their side"....
Rape in christian institutions is normal worldwide,it always happened .Same institution that has a former SS nazi and later in charge of the modern name of the old Inquisition as their Pope. Nobody denies Ratzinger was nazi, there are photos of him in nazi uniform.needless to comment more on this.
sure ratzinger is pictured with a "nazi-uniform". but it has nothing to do with him being one. he was just a member of the hitler-youth ... if that makes him a nazi, well everyone was one then.
i dont know where you come from but you could compare hitler-youth with boyscouts o.A. except that one had to be in there at some point.
Bist du Deutch ? Deutchland über alles in der Welt ?
Jews, leftists,democrats, homosexuals, etc, etc were not members of nazi youth.
Anyway, Herr Ratzinger proved he did not enrol there by chance, he was in charge of the modern Inquisition department of the church until he was elected pope.The area of the church in charge of keeping the faith and saying who deserves to be punished.
1. not all germans were part of nazi youth. The ones that were imprisioned and butchered weren´t.
2 we aren´t talking of a german that ended up being a carpenter, but a pope. Church scrutinize who they designate pope, among many candidates they chose him
3 I said he was ,until the day he was elected pope, in charge of the modern name of Inquisition .
+against contraception means in AIDS time He forgave Levebrist priests who declared Holocaust is a myth
the most beautiful voice in the world and she is a beautiful person as well. I'm so happy that I finally got to see her in person this summer, I idolize her. She is just awesome!
yea, very beautifull. Why can't We go back ? Something happened , To us . We need to bring back our music ...indie folk, alterative ...60's 70's 80's 90's ...
I guess, Were going to have to die , for our country ...I would die , for this country so the mother's and kid's can grow up and make wise choices .And as well look back at us , And say if it was not for 4409 ,and the group 1776 , We woukd' not be here .Some day.........if it comes down to it
IMO Ron Paul is just talk, no action. The 2008 run for POTUS he showed himself too willing to play the 2 party politics game. Made a deal with the RNC to get in on the primary debates, that prevented him from running as an idependant candidate.
There's something I just can't understand: Why don't people just heed the message and stop killing in the name of God?
Maybe it's just more than I can understand. If someone can explain this to me, I'll surely try to understand. (Though I'm convinced that there's nobody listening to this song who can explain that, but I may be wrong!)
A big part of the answer: People kill in the name of what they conceive to be God because humans have a need to justify & sanctify the will to power (the original temptation='Ye shall be as gods'). Even when people get rid of their old conceptions of God, they sanctify bloodshed in the name of something else transcendent: the Party/Proletariat Revolution, das Volk, or "Liberty, Fraternity, Equality" & the goddess of Reason. We run from God by creating false gods who feed our sinful cravings.
You're totally right, my friend! Thank you for your answer! If everyone thought about things like you do, the world would be a lot better! (I'm not kidding, I mean it!)
canard17, I come from a family of nonbelievers, examined various religions critically, & had my acquired faith tested. I have taught psychology & sociology at the university level. Secularists & atheists in the West (usually more arrogant & less open-minded than Chinese atheists BTW) have their own myths. Do some research on the "myth of progress" & you'll be enlightened as to how bankrupt ideological atheism is and discover a richer vision of progress that is emerging through Christianity.
Christians split dozens of times , each 1 claiming god is on THEIR side (rings a bell ? ) Believe in the magical image you wish +support just causes while doing it. Imagine your god is on the side of the ones that want welfare for majority of mankind. Example : Is the leader of your church for bringing ALL soldiers back from Irak NOW ? For free good heath system for ALL americans using the money spent for banks bailouts ?
By the way, test and faith are contradictory terms.
canard17, I am hoping that you are capable of dialoging in good faith, so my response will be based on that assumption. If I am wrong, then you are nothing but an irresponsible grenade thrower hiding behind high-sounding rhetoric. We'll see. Let's begin with this: What do you know about the ecumenical movement? What do you know about papal opposition to the war in Iraq & the USCCB's stand on universal health care?
Grenade , good term , your pope threw many to jewish people . Ratzinger was a nazi soldier .See his photo in Wehrmacht uniform published in Der Spiegel, a famous german magazine.
Christians for universal health ? The same church that condoms use of condoms in a world with AIDS ? This proves your priests don´t believe in Judgment Day, or they ´d fear it as few other people would.
Right, we don´t have grounds in common. I am honest, I invite you to dialogue with people of your church
canard17, In the film 6th Sense there is a profound line about ghosts spoken by a child: "They can only see what they want to see". If I were a Buddhist I'd say your're a hungry ghost, the ideologically blind sort who can only read the half of every story that he wants to. cjannack has already exposed 1 of your many dishonest distortions. Disingenous how you refuse dialog in a way that tries to turn the table on an iinvitation; only a fool can't see the real reason: You're incapable of dialog.
Yip, written in late 50's or early 60's. Here is one of the original versions by the Flying Column (lyrics, verses and order sometimes change) ... watch?v=hj45A0R9O0U
To add to the comments here: "St. Joan" *also* put her money where her beliefs are/were. Donated (most of) a percentage of ALL proceeds from her albums to a coalition for Non-Violent Action... (Now *that's* how capitalism is *supposed* to work!) God/dess Bless you, Joan Baez!
I love how much pain and hurt she can convey in her lovely voice about our country and struggle, something I'm sad to say is lacking in my generation.
That's not what it's about. It's about the naivety of waging a war against them, then when they surrender, count them as strong allies. Dylan was stating that a nation that was brainwashed by their government, and killed 12 million people. When the war was over, the Germany had God (also speaking as goodwill) on her side. That's how I see it anyways.
Of course they had to be confronted. But this song was written and performed only 20 years after that war, and the point being made was that the Germans were already sanitised by the US because they were now a strategic ally against the USSR, and hundreds of Nazis were now the backbone of the American ICBM and Space programmes...and sod the 12 million that Hitler had eliminated in the camps and mental hospitals and across Eastern Europe.
As far as I can tell - "God" is just the collective consciousness of whatever people you're dealing with, at any given moment. And that's a far from "infallible" entity...
it upsets me when people classify the people dylan used to play with at newport as "stupid hippies" because thats just plain in-accurate! simply because it was the early sixties and nobody was trying to be "hip" It was a time when the musicans who talked about peace ACTUALLY got involved, it was until the later half of the decade when they were given a bad name by posers who claimed to be as driven as they were. These people helped organized The March at Washington. a HUGE historical moment.
just like to t5hank all those who have put her songs on here. i used to have all her albums, til my ex destroyed every one of them! You bring back my youth lol xxx
Joan Baez was def a better singer than Bob Dylan. Bob writes some amazing songs though. Joan Baez's songs are kinda like lullabies, and i mean that in a good way.
Slidereaction, I was a hippie. Ours was a group with the power in sheer numbers to change the world.We were also naive in a way few understand. Those in power feared us & OUR POTENTIAL. The Rockefellers , CIA & others introduced social movements INTENDED to kill off our power. Feminism, playboyism, then drugs n free love. Please study the Tavistock Foundation, Aaron Russo's short Interview, & learn. Believe me, you are right, but we never saw what was being done to us either.
Dylan was in his early 20's when he wrote this song.. prophetic beyond his years. This song could be written today.. it's timeless. We still haven't learned a GodDamned thing...
This is a wonderful song with a powerful, timeless message. Sometimes we have to open our eyes to reality and not let pride supersede our better judgment. I think this song reveals the hypocrisy and arrogance of America with eloquence and humility.
If we hadn't all those hippies back in the day offering us peaceful alternatives like LSD trips, smoking weed and catching herpies from lovins, why we would probably still be a Country with God on our side. Joan has a great voice but her politics and those of her kind offered nothing more philosophic then Belly Aching and crying, "I'm feeling guilty for being a spoiled American." Other countries who envied our power, really liked listening to those singing cry babies bash their own country.
Wake up! The song is ironic! Listen to the last verses, it's making a very powerful point about the blindness of a nation that believes they can do what ever the hell they want with "god on their side", remember that Bob Dylan wrote this during the Vietnam war, which he was AGAINST.
no, she is of Mexican ancestry. Her father is from Puebla. One side of her paternal family migrated from Spain to Mexico three generations ago, the other side is Mexican. She is of Mexican, Spanish and possibly Aztec lol ancestry from her father's side and Scottish, English and French ancestry from her mother's side. Baez is a very common Spanish/Latin surname.
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it does not matter where shes form.. her ancestry. she is singing about this country here. And People should truly realize that the only reason this country became great, was because of loses, and that God was TRULY on her side. America people, is only America for the reason that God was on her side. Please understand once.
That's not entirely true, she has amazing talent. But admittedly, the best songs she sings are Dylan's, and Dylan is a better artist, but she helped him get famous. They helped each other.
Joan Baez has Mexican and Scottish ancestry. Her dad was born in Puebla, Mexico and then moved to New York where there is a big population from Puebla. She is active in the Mexican community in New York as an activist and Philanthropist.
She is one of the few famous Mexican New Yorkers.
Joan brought Bob to the masses, in a way that BD couldnt. Most people i talk to say she was more appealing, her voice draws you in. Bob wrote it she sang it..
DRpokeme 1 year ago
Hermosa
mRafaelf 1 year ago
Superbe! J'adore cette chanteuse!
DrBlousonNoir 1 year ago
I'm not directly replying to AmericanFenian on here because he'll just retort with nonsense. Then again, those defending Dylan are acting equally childish. Behan adapted the melody of Patriot Games from The Merry Month of May. Dylan later wrote this obviously using the same melody. That's what folk singers do. That's folk. The same good songs played throughout the ages. Dylan did an honest parody out of disagreement. Why credit one who he disagrees with?
ViciousCannibal 1 year ago
Who sings Bob Dyan songs better than Bob himself?
You are listening to her!
No other voice is comparable to hers.
StevePalRP 1 year ago
beauty, brains, captivating voice...what else can a guy ask for?
PrisonPlanetChannel 1 year ago
@PrisonPlanetChannel I wish she was gay.... and born in the mid eighties
ambersontheduck 1 year ago
I hate these folk historians, who cares who wrote which song . . . a songs a song and if we can't express our selves what can we do ?
ChrisEarl102 1 year ago
Fuck this song Dylan ripped off Dominic Behan and then acted like he didn't. Had he asked I'm sure he would have been allowed to use Dominic Behan's music. The Patriot Game is a far better ballad anyways.
FUCK bob dylan
AmericanFenian 1 year ago
@AmericanFenian fuck bob dylan? Well then FUCK YOU!
MultiSweetness11 1 year ago
@AmericanFenian He accused Bob Dylan of plagiarizing his rebellious Irish song, "The Patriot Game", which Dylan imitated as "With God on Our Side."
Unfortunately, Behan had plagiarized it himself from a traditional Irish melody of the first quarter of the 17th century, known as "The Nightingale"
StevePalRP 1 year ago
@StevePalRP I'm with ya. This is an honest parody out of a flat-out disagreement over the value of conflict. And, being the nature of folk music, these melodies are played throughout the ages, revolving around the same topics - only played by many people.
Are you sure Patriot Games takes after "The Nightingale?" I've read that it was "The Merry Month of May." Both sound very similar imo.
ViciousCannibal 1 year ago
@ViciousCannibal you are a hippy ass forum troll. props.
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@ambersontheduck lol wat
ViciousCannibal 1 year ago
I saw her in Stockholm last year...she is still going strong.
NinaFrida 1 year ago
Powerful song.
bookloverforever 1 year ago
I've loved the music of Joan Baez since I was 14. Nothing has changed. Stunning.
Mahinaarangi 1 year ago
@Tlax13 I'd hardly say Dylan shamefully stole this song. He did a lot of covers in the early days, and I don't think he's ever laid claim to have written this song?
daiellis 1 year ago
@daiellis Dylan did write this song. Joan Baez covered Dylan a lot at the time and still does to this day. Check out Wikipedia. It says Dylan is the songwriter.
Love this version by the way.
rusholmeruffian91 1 year ago
@rusholmeruffian91
Bob Dylan ripped this off from Dominic Behan's Patriot Game.
AmericanFenian 1 year ago
who will right the next verse?
sawyer1022 1 year ago
wonderful - greater than life and time. I love you Joan, from here to eternity.
Rahetor2 1 year ago
joan baez - nash chelovek.
oblakaniec 1 year ago
She never sang at Gerde's Folk City where Bob Dylan got his start. They served alcohol at Gerdie's. I'm 72 years old and visited Folk City often as a young man. It would have been nice to hear her sing there. I'm talking about the original Gerde's on Fourth Street. I never visited the club after it moved to Third.
ZZBob777 1 year ago
This is my favorite of her Dylan covers. There's something about this song that suits her voice better than the others.
ApproximatelyJane 1 year ago 2
Dylan is a great song writer but he shamelessley stole this tune from Dominic Behan. Just look up "Patriot Game" by Dominic Behan
Tlax13 1 year ago
@Tlax13 Good tunes like the good things in life are ment to be shared.. Dylan hung out with the Clancy brothers in "The white Horse Tavern" so they shared more than the tunes i think Liam stole Dylans Girl.. or was it Dylan stole his no matter....So many american and Irish Folk tunes have crossed back and forth...They are more borrowed rather stolen as long as they create music for a new generation to listen to.. that what counts..
malachy1847 1 year ago
the song is irronic, and sarcastic, but in a subtle way. Im surprised an aspie could write something that isnt too obvious
vikkivanilla 1 year ago
@vikkivanilla what is an aspie?
unclebobunclebob 1 year ago
@unclebobunclebob , someone with aspergers syndrome xx
vikkivanilla 1 year ago
@unclebobunclebob yo're being sarcastic, right? I don't believe she has this disease, plus, Bob Dylan wrote the song, not her.
unclebobunclebob 1 year ago
@unclebobunclebob Dylan did write this, Dylan is Jewish, the bit abiut the Germans was very controversial when the song came out.
llangol 1 year ago
Been listenning to her Dylan Covers and I like them all. I like her voice a lot. Anyone into Joan's music, please check my band on this channel. Any feedback would be appreciated, coming from people with nice musical taste (if you're here, :) Thanks. Peace.
mobofg 1 year ago
Lovely rendition from Joan - of course an Americanisation of Dominic Behan's 'Patriot Game' which can be found on YouTube. Patriotism being the last refuge of the scoundrel - here's hoping you can't fool all the people all of the time! :)
jazzhag 1 year ago
A Chinese proverb say.
we dont' use good steel for nails, or good man for soldiers.
chimangos 1 year ago
New verses are needed, Bob.
Jananita1212 1 year ago
no answers to the quetions asked
Dunkleosteus9 1 year ago
iwe do need this now a days
lawrence159 1 year ago
Don't blame the soldier. Soldiers love their country and believe their leaders. Soldiers do so what others don't have the courage to do. No matter what uniform they wear or what side they are on, they are doing what their country ask. When the fighting is over they have to pick up their lives. want to blame someone, blame yourself. Bullshit from our leaders, hate from our citizens. Look how we are acting, a handful of nuts kill a few thousand and our thirst for blood has not abated God is LOL
slowpokecat 1 year ago
@slowpokecat real courage is standing up to your leaders and saying "I don't agree, there's a better way." Its not courage to thirst after blood under god and government sanction. "Doing what your country asks" is just the cowardice to question your country
CPin08 1 year ago
"We forgave the Germans"
What a load of shit. Those who "murdered six million" were punished and executed. There has never been much difference between the Germans and Americans so they made sensible allies. Not to mention excellent soldiers. With war imment againt the eastern hordes we needed every ally we could get.
Tlax13 1 year ago
beautiful song and such a lovely powerful voice, it just seems to flow from her without any strain. well done Joan
BlackasVelvet 1 year ago 2
Wonderful song! Joan was beautiful.....such a voice and musician.....Thank you Joan....
saucyman74 1 year ago
She is beautiful. Her voice is a match.
TheWeatherman1987 1 year ago 2
Never heard this song before, but what fantastic lyrics! I love Joan Baez!
Clinton52732 1 year ago
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We have 2010. Any problems with "the Germans" ?? Wow.....
bleesius 1 year ago
It is 2010 thats true. But this song was written about 50 years ago. So I really don't get your post
bmeade32 1 year ago
@ bmeade32
yep, and by that time, 1966, nazi-germany was still not over, judges, etc. nazis still were in office, in frg-westgermany. due to cold war they seemed to be"better" than communists, due to western view. change came 1968. in frankfurt&berlin(west).
greetings from berlin
p.s. even in us of a they employed nazis. wernher von braun. moonshot. remember?
TheGapminder 1 year ago
Back to the vid.
Thanks Vid poster for this wonderful video.
Joan Baez, a fairly clean Spirit with a clean clear voice, who has aged beautifully, due to her clear heart and willingness to speak her mind
on issues of importance.
IMO, God's hope is that one day all of of his children will grow up to be true sons and daughters.
And stop the sibling rivlary
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Such a wonderful comment. Have you taken one up the butt yet?
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Gr8stuffis 1 year ago
My Two Cents : I came from a background of a Jewish father turned atheist in the war, and a french roman catholic mother who spoke little english, when she came to this country. After they married they put all talk of religion aside and allowed me to find my own way.
In my late teens or early twenties, i can't remember now. After a normal childhood and exceptional social life, i had a long lasting experience where I was filled with the Holy Spirit.
Gr8stuffis 1 year ago
When this happens there is no mistaking it. To discount the existance of God and Christ consciouness is a mistake and quite a loss.
Since that experience i have had occasion to see quotes from the Bible in print, and have even looked briefly at parts of the Bible, and I can see that there are many truths written in the words of Jesus.
Gr8stuffis 1 year ago
It might serve us all better, not to let toxic man (and his actions based on his toxic interpretation of a Spiritual Master who cleansed his Temple of the Living Spirit to discern what was written in his heart) influence your final answer.
Gr8stuffis 1 year ago
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Gr8stuffis 1 year ago
Just one word to my American, British etc. friends: We love you! We will always love you because you freed us from the Nazi dictatorship! We love you, we love your countries (we really do!) and we're grateful because you freed us when we hadn't got the courage to do it on our own!
Thank you!
NeonlightRebel 2 years ago 2
Joan Baez and Aaron Neville both did brilliant versions of this classic Dylan song...
silverstartrucker 2 years ago
Leaders of the world, hearken unto this!!
jerdad120 2 years ago
Can someone tell me about dylan and baez's story together?
I heard that he cheated on her, or left her for another woman??
I know they were living together at some point..
can someone please elaborate?
I love Joan Baez
eleanor7rigby 2 years ago
You can find all that information on Wikipedia. Basically they dated till about '64 then Bob met Sara who he later married. He was seeing both Joan and Sara at the same time at one point and Baez ended up showing up at his apartment one day and Sara answered the door which basically ended things between them.
MKIIITrbo89 2 years ago
thank you!
eleanor7rigby 2 years ago
Watch her left hand on the frets - just incredible - and while remembering all those lerrics!!!
twinten 2 years ago
whata voice! she was and still is beautiful!
kasia500 2 years ago 2
It is freezing up at .45
Redtailhawk8 2 years ago
incredible lady
we need more of this now a days
RegardsPaul330 2 years ago 31
@RegardsPaul330 Very true!
hedonistic2008 1 year ago
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tilly15773 1 year ago
So good!! Smart Woman you are Joan:)
Peace
TheTiffanylaura 2 years ago 6
she is so fit
closetome 2 years ago 4
Love J.B.
Her lyrics are immortal (however this one is Dylan's:).
estaere 2 years ago 2
Just read an article about boys that were raped and mishandled in Christian institutions. The Church wanted to stifle their stories of which there are so many. Thus I had to think of this song. Those hypocrites think they can do anything "with god on their side"....
We shall overcome (religion).
markus310773 2 years ago 5
@markus310773 God has never been on the raper's side. You don't need to be an anti-religion guy to condemn such abominations.
legendebrune 2 years ago
Rape in christian institutions is normal worldwide,it always happened .Same institution that has a former SS nazi and later in charge of the modern name of the old Inquisition as their Pope. Nobody denies Ratzinger was nazi, there are photos of him in nazi uniform.needless to comment more on this.
canard17 2 years ago
@canard17
Blessed is who is able to read...
sure ratzinger is pictured with a "nazi-uniform". but it has nothing to do with him being one. he was just a member of the hitler-youth ... if that makes him a nazi, well everyone was one then.
i dont know where you come from but you could compare hitler-youth with boyscouts o.A. except that one had to be in there at some point.
cjannack 2 years ago
cjannack
Sieg heil ! Guess you like that salute.
Bist du Deutch ? Deutchland über alles in der Welt ?
Jews, leftists,democrats, homosexuals, etc, etc were not members of nazi youth.
Anyway, Herr Ratzinger proved he did not enrol there by chance, he was in charge of the modern Inquisition department of the church until he was elected pope.The area of the church in charge of keeping the faith and saying who deserves to be punished.
Sieg heil ! Sie verstehen nicht
canard17 2 years ago
cjannack and vincet
1. not all germans were part of nazi youth. The ones that were imprisioned and butchered weren´t.
2 we aren´t talking of a german that ended up being a carpenter, but a pope. Church scrutinize who they designate pope, among many candidates they chose him
3 I said he was ,until the day he was elected pope, in charge of the modern name of Inquisition .
+against contraception means in AIDS time He forgave Levebrist priests who declared Holocaust is a myth
canard17 1 year ago
Does anyone remember what the protesters used to say back then?
"Fighting for peace is like f***ing for chastity!"
The more things change the more they stay the same.
yumyummoany 2 years ago 19
@yumyummoany I doubt 'back then' people use to say "fucking for chastity", but whatever. And Joan Baez was all about non-violent protest :)
LenaCS 1 year ago
she is a great story teller. Wonderful and she is so pretty. Can't get enough of her videos.
edicccc 2 years ago 5
I am so much attached to Sweden. The song is beautiful...
ivpivivpiv 2 years ago
Such a beautiful song. Bob's a great songwriter and Joan has a smooth voice
bluesboy25000 2 years ago
the most beautiful voice in the world and she is a beautiful person as well. I'm so happy that I finally got to see her in person this summer, I idolize her. She is just awesome!
liangel51 2 years ago
yea, very beautifull. Why can't We go back ? Something happened , To us . We need to bring back our music ...indie folk, alterative ...60's 70's 80's 90's ...
LIQUID1776 2 years ago 5
Well to do that we're gonna need another Cold War. I'm not willing to take that risk. ;)
JrFLYnnIV 2 years ago
I guess, Were going to have to die , for our country ...I would die , for this country so the mother's and kid's can grow up and make wise choices .And as well look back at us , And say if it was not for 4409 ,and the group 1776 , We woukd' not be here .Some day.........if it comes down to it
LIQUID1776 2 years ago
Ron Paul is just a patsy for American Moneyed interests.
JrFLYnnIV 2 years ago
If that is so, to what end? Why would he call for the dismantling of the Fed if that were so? Please explain.
billyguns2 2 years ago
IMO Ron Paul is just talk, no action. The 2008 run for POTUS he showed himself too willing to play the 2 party politics game. Made a deal with the RNC to get in on the primary debates, that prevented him from running as an idependant candidate.
westkan 2 years ago 2
do some research
donniesbrudder 2 years ago
"[you've done your] research" <= fixed your sentence.
JrFLYnnIV 2 years ago
She's hot
nomad1777 2 years ago
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Joan Baez can not sing. Good song though.
SneakyPanda 2 years ago
Would love to know who you think can sing. Britney Spears? WOW!!!!
profnachos 2 years ago
There's something I just can't understand: Why don't people just heed the message and stop killing in the name of God?
Maybe it's just more than I can understand. If someone can explain this to me, I'll surely try to understand. (Though I'm convinced that there's nobody listening to this song who can explain that, but I may be wrong!)
NeonlightRebel 2 years ago
A big part of the answer: People kill in the name of what they conceive to be God because humans have a need to justify & sanctify the will to power (the original temptation='Ye shall be as gods'). Even when people get rid of their old conceptions of God, they sanctify bloodshed in the name of something else transcendent: the Party/Proletariat Revolution, das Volk, or "Liberty, Fraternity, Equality" & the goddess of Reason. We run from God by creating false gods who feed our sinful cravings.
vincet2009 2 years ago 3
You're totally right, my friend! Thank you for your answer! If everyone thought about things like you do, the world would be a lot better! (I'm not kidding, I mean it!)
NeonlightRebel 2 years ago 2
Vincet
You confuse magical thinking with the need of mankind to progress and the logical oposition of the ones who must stop it.
Too easy "Voltaire and Lenin same as Hitler or Bush , they sent people to kill " .
Despite their failure to succeed at the end of Voltaire and Lenin , their goal was progress of the many.
God would take sides, why don´ t you ?
Any God you believe in is based on what the managers of religions told you and your parents for years.
canard17 2 years ago
canard17, I come from a family of nonbelievers, examined various religions critically, & had my acquired faith tested. I have taught psychology & sociology at the university level. Secularists & atheists in the West (usually more arrogant & less open-minded than Chinese atheists BTW) have their own myths. Do some research on the "myth of progress" & you'll be enlightened as to how bankrupt ideological atheism is and discover a richer vision of progress that is emerging through Christianity.
vincet2009 2 years ago
Vincet
Christians split dozens of times , each 1 claiming god is on THEIR side (rings a bell ? ) Believe in the magical image you wish +support just causes while doing it. Imagine your god is on the side of the ones that want welfare for majority of mankind. Example : Is the leader of your church for bringing ALL soldiers back from Irak NOW ? For free good heath system for ALL americans using the money spent for banks bailouts ?
By the way, test and faith are contradictory terms.
canard17 2 years ago
canard17, I am hoping that you are capable of dialoging in good faith, so my response will be based on that assumption. If I am wrong, then you are nothing but an irresponsible grenade thrower hiding behind high-sounding rhetoric. We'll see. Let's begin with this: What do you know about the ecumenical movement? What do you know about papal opposition to the war in Iraq & the USCCB's stand on universal health care?
vincet2009 2 years ago
Grenade , good term , your pope threw many to jewish people . Ratzinger was a nazi soldier .See his photo in Wehrmacht uniform published in Der Spiegel, a famous german magazine.
Christians for universal health ? The same church that condoms use of condoms in a world with AIDS ? This proves your priests don´t believe in Judgment Day, or they ´d fear it as few other people would.
Right, we don´t have grounds in common. I am honest, I invite you to dialogue with people of your church
canard17 2 years ago
canard17, In the film 6th Sense there is a profound line about ghosts spoken by a child: "They can only see what they want to see". If I were a Buddhist I'd say your're a hungry ghost, the ideologically blind sort who can only read the half of every story that he wants to. cjannack has already exposed 1 of your many dishonest distortions. Disingenous how you refuse dialog in a way that tries to turn the table on an iinvitation; only a fool can't see the real reason: You're incapable of dialog.
vincet2009 1 year ago
Cause god does not speak for himself.His "representatives " in earth do.
canard17 2 years ago
the lyrics are just amazing..........
and she sings them so beautifully
Heirloom9 2 years ago 4
What lyrics!!!!So currently....
dobritaalmasi 2 years ago 2
credit to Dominic Behan for this song. the tune comes from an older source.
fionndan 2 years ago
Yip, written in late 50's or early 60's. Here is one of the original versions by the Flying Column (lyrics, verses and order sometimes change) ... watch?v=hj45A0R9O0U
lreland1 2 years ago
AWESOME! so true and beautiful and sad. i cried.
winggoddess 2 years ago 3
To add to the comments here: "St. Joan" *also* put her money where her beliefs are/were. Donated (most of) a percentage of ALL proceeds from her albums to a coalition for Non-Violent Action... (Now *that's* how capitalism is *supposed* to work!) God/dess Bless you, Joan Baez!
silverbonn 2 years ago 7
toujours actuel, hélas!
QSPF11 2 years ago
Cohen, where are you? I'm trying to find you. Marie
findingcohen 2 years ago
She is avery nice elder lady now with the same extraordinary voice
edukator1 2 years ago 6
She wasa beautiful woman with a beautiful voice.
TheJoker14132 2 years ago 11
what do you mean she "WAS" a woman, she's still alive for heavens sake!!
jcatt500 2 years ago 4
I mean she was a BEAUTIFUL woman. She still can sing
TheJoker14132 2 years ago 2
you can be old and beautiful
tinyturk 2 years ago 5
You are fucking right!
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Dollypetolly 2 years ago
Used to sing this very loudly at school in the 60's.
chorister51 2 years ago 2
I love how much pain and hurt she can convey in her lovely voice about our country and struggle, something I'm sad to say is lacking in my generation.
sdv0018 2 years ago 11
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If she doesnt understand why the germans had to be confronted, what does she think IS worth fighting?
RatherCrunchyMuffin 2 years ago
first she didn't write this song and second many people don't understand the complex reasons behind the 1st world war - in short it was over land.
toddgreer 2 years ago 7
That's not what it's about. It's about the naivety of waging a war against them, then when they surrender, count them as strong allies. Dylan was stating that a nation that was brainwashed by their government, and killed 12 million people. When the war was over, the Germany had God (also speaking as goodwill) on her side. That's how I see it anyways.
WinterwoodPie 2 years ago
Of course they had to be confronted. But this song was written and performed only 20 years after that war, and the point being made was that the Germans were already sanitised by the US because they were now a strategic ally against the USSR, and hundreds of Nazis were now the backbone of the American ICBM and Space programmes...and sod the 12 million that Hitler had eliminated in the camps and mental hospitals and across Eastern Europe.
SullivanNiall 2 years ago 4
God is on your side and he is also against you..... bless the creator.
redrock505 2 years ago
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She is hag now. Unfuckable anymore. God is on your side baby!
myjanuary151987 2 years ago
As far as I can tell - "God" is just the collective consciousness of whatever people you're dealing with, at any given moment. And that's a far from "infallible" entity...
glynnth 2 years ago
Love you, Joanie!!!
ivpivivpiv 2 years ago 8
simplesmente perfeito!
fabianocuryrodrigues 2 years ago 4
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it upsets me when people classify the people dylan used to play with at newport as "stupid hippies" because thats just plain in-accurate! simply because it was the early sixties and nobody was trying to be "hip" It was a time when the musicans who talked about peace ACTUALLY got involved, it was until the later half of the decade when they were given a bad name by posers who claimed to be as driven as they were. These people helped organized The March at Washington. a HUGE historical moment.
el3m3ntsk8s 2 years ago
patriot game is also based on a different tune.
Thats folk music, accept it
Dylan americanised this version which i like best and im irish
Jay3039 2 years ago 2
I lived the " golden time" when we imagined a different world and Joan was an spiritual supporting from her ranch.
tresefesyunaeme 2 years ago 2
true and the world has changed a lot since then , but her songs still sound the same
ridd3000 2 years ago 2
i like Joan's version better than Bob's....
bostonkane 2 years ago
It 's the same tune as 'The Patriot Game'
by Domonic Behan...
barneygreyheron 2 years ago
Makes me feel young again, and sad if only we listened
norris2612 2 years ago
just like to t5hank all those who have put her songs on here. i used to have all her albums, til my ex destroyed every one of them! You bring back my youth lol xxx
daftdruid3 2 years ago
I lovveee Youuu Joannnnnn!!
hewittearth 2 years ago
Thank you God for Joan Baez.
alexhallgren 2 years ago 6
I like this song.. it has a refreshing sound but meaningful words
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This blows. Baez takes all the grittiness and soul out Dylan's song. She might be a good singer technically but she bores me to tears.
capoditutticapos 2 years ago
I like the fact she ultimatrly walks towards us.
bartrumtantrum 2 years ago
damn
mulay7 3 years ago 3
damn, indeed
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rodin40 3 years ago
Joan Baez was def a better singer than Bob Dylan. Bob writes some amazing songs though. Joan Baez's songs are kinda like lullabies, and i mean that in a good way.
PearlJammer07 3 years ago 9
Joan...I love Youuuuu!!
hewittearth 3 years ago 3
One of the most beautiful people of all time, singing a song of eternal beauty.
neverindoubt 3 years ago 7
Slidereaction, I was a hippie. Ours was a group with the power in sheer numbers to change the world.We were also naive in a way few understand. Those in power feared us & OUR POTENTIAL. The Rockefellers , CIA & others introduced social movements INTENDED to kill off our power. Feminism, playboyism, then drugs n free love. Please study the Tavistock Foundation, Aaron Russo's short Interview, & learn. Believe me, you are right, but we never saw what was being done to us either.
barbaralee15 3 years ago 2
her voice is sweet fuck the usa
420fungi 3 years ago
joan seems to be wearing a very nice skirt-suit and flats. Very becoming.
phlarrdboi 3 years ago
Dylan was in his early 20's when he wrote this song.. prophetic beyond his years. This song could be written today.. it's timeless. We still haven't learned a GodDamned thing...
mikehunt626 3 years ago 9
Well sorta ..lol
The song he took both melody and theme from is this
Come all you young rebels and list while I sing
For love of one's land is a terrible thing
It banishes fear with the speed of a flame
And makes us all part of the patriot game
My name is O'Hanlon, I'm just gone sixteen
My home is in Monaghan, there I was weaned
I was taught all my life cruel England to blame
And so I'm a part of the patriot game
no5eyparker 3 years ago
V 3 and 4
'Tis barely two years since I wandered away
With the local battalion of the bold I.R.A.
I read of our heroes and wanted the same
To play up my part in the patriot game
They told me how Connolly was shot in a chair
His wounds from the battle all bleeding and bare
His fine body twisted, all battered and lame
They soon made me part of the patriot game
no5eyparker 3 years ago
This island of mine has for long been half free
Six counties are under John Bull's monarchy
And still De Valera is greatly to blame
For shirking his part in the patriot game
I don't mind a bit if I shoot down police
They're lackeys for war - never guardians of peace
But yet at deserters I never let aim
Those rebels who sold out the patriot game
And now as I lie with my body all holes
I think of those traitors who bargained and sold
no5eyparker 3 years ago
I'm sorry my rifle has not done the same
For the quislings who sold out the patriot game
sorry about the formatting, you can thank hackers for that ...lol
the song was written in 1959 in Ireland by Dominic Behan and Irishperson.
no5eyparker 3 years ago
mikehunt626 - not a damn thing. so much beauty around us - so much ugly within us. we don't deserve this earth.
monicasuetannehill 3 years ago 3
This is a wonderful song with a powerful, timeless message. Sometimes we have to open our eyes to reality and not let pride supersede our better judgment. I think this song reveals the hypocrisy and arrogance of America with eloquence and humility.
Thanks for posting!!
cristofori888 3 years ago 6
Deep song- tells more than you know.
deborahmouser 3 years ago 2
If we hadn't all those hippies back in the day offering us peaceful alternatives like LSD trips, smoking weed and catching herpies from lovins, why we would probably still be a Country with God on our side. Joan has a great voice but her politics and those of her kind offered nothing more philosophic then Belly Aching and crying, "I'm feeling guilty for being a spoiled American." Other countries who envied our power, really liked listening to those singing cry babies bash their own country.
Slideaction 3 years ago
Wake up! The song is ironic! Listen to the last verses, it's making a very powerful point about the blindness of a nation that believes they can do what ever the hell they want with "god on their side", remember that Bob Dylan wrote this during the Vietnam war, which he was AGAINST.
henryverrall 3 years ago 4
no, she is of Mexican ancestry. Her father is from Puebla. One side of her paternal family migrated from Spain to Mexico three generations ago, the other side is Mexican. She is of Mexican, Spanish and possibly Aztec lol ancestry from her father's side and Scottish, English and French ancestry from her mother's side. Baez is a very common Spanish/Latin surname.
thaliasghost 3 years ago
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it does not matter where shes form.. her ancestry. she is singing about this country here. And People should truly realize that the only reason this country became great, was because of loses, and that God was TRULY on her side. America people, is only America for the reason that God was on her side. Please understand once.
vikz350 3 years ago
many thoughfull words , makes us all think and joan is a stunner
oldken1 3 years ago 3
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shes nothing without dylan
aDeletedAccount 3 years ago
That's not entirely true, she has amazing talent. But admittedly, the best songs she sings are Dylan's, and Dylan is a better artist, but she helped him get famous. They helped each other.
henryverrall 3 years ago
Joan Baez has Mexican and Scottish ancestry. Her dad was born in Puebla, Mexico and then moved to New York where there is a big population from Puebla. She is active in the Mexican community in New York as an activist and Philanthropist.
She is one of the few famous Mexican New Yorkers.
iceland1rocks 3 years ago 5
I think Sarah Palin should listen to this song.
davidatheist 3 years ago 24
Mexican Queen = Joan Baez
Amazing.
iceland1rocks 3 years ago 10
pas de commentaire, les larmes à l'oeil Si D.ieu était à nos côtés... Paix et Fraternité"..; mais les intérêts sont toujours dérangés!
ANTOONMAKA 3 years ago 3
beautiful
bex273 3 years ago 5
wonderfull!! And it's true, even after 40 years!!
God bless you, joan!!
Verleihnix987 3 years ago 6
joan the beautiful
zolf1988 3 years ago 5
This song is great. I'm constantly amazed by just how much beautiful shit Bob Dylan managed to crank out of his head.
azalbar 3 years ago 5