Dear bluez n2z how do u make a video then upload it to becuase when i put a video on from avs to youtube i did not work any ideas thank you jamie blunden
The level of medical aid in the units are varied lots, depending on the event. Sometimes first aid level is good enough. Other times we have our own ambulance crews helping out. These are trained to the same level as a NHS Ambulance Technician. Only occasionally a nurse or Doctor will be on a unit. This is only so some problems can be sorted there and not go to hospital. Ask the 4000+ people treated from the london Marathon if its pointless.
At last, a video to show of the great motorbikes used in the organisation!!. Seen them at the Notting Hill carnival last year, and so jealous! Would love one in every county!!
I believe Cardiff City Division were about the first ever to have motorbikes....way back in the late 1960's under the control of Doug Hartley Div Supt
As one of the many FRONTLINE DRIVERS St John Ambulance has trained and can be seen on the streets of London most weekends answering 999 calls, allow me to dispell some myths:
St John Ambulance has crews on 999 response EVERY DAY. Our Blue light drivers are all highly trained, more so the motorcyclists and solo car drivers. When London can't handle the volume, we step in and take up the slack. First Aid is just a small part of what we do these days,
@gringobomba14 Hi, I like your discription of what the crews actually do. Is there any way this can be put up on all the video clips that are on here?. At least more folk will understand what your guys do. I am a member of Bedfordshire, us to be AFA. now support aswant a break from it. I would of liked to do this duty, but we all were told London not want us! So will hope for the next royal event. As we dont do 999 work in Beds, can you let us know what you respond to please. Cheers.
@Bluezn2z They are basically mobile hospitals but smaller and the people treating are more than likely just first aid trained so are pretty pointless.
@timmyga132 "They are basically mobile hospitals but smaller and the people treating are more than likely just first aid trained so are pretty pointless."
They are designed primarily for first aid purposes, rather than intensive care. But if they're deployed at a large event they will almost certainly have St John paramedics, nurses, and/or doctors available to staff them and supervise the first aid personnel. Anybody who needs treatment won't think that they're pointless!
@AnonymousDiv0 Hi Dood. Your discription is completely incorrect about mobile first aid units. You should visit one when your next out at a event and ask what the folk actually do in there. They deal with anything from a bee sting to a collapsed person, may be from heart attack. Also treat fractures. women gone into labour. There are many other problems these members deal with.Members do not have nurses supervising. They get on with it themselves.
@AnonymousDiv0 Hey dood , do read the notes that are now added to this video, You should then see the units are not pointless. Your views are completly wrong. So go visit a unit one day and see what levels of first aid are offered to the public.
@Rob1992SJA "You should then see the units are not pointless. Your views are completly wrong. "
I think you must have gotten confused about who/what you were replying to. My comment was responding to somebody else, and I quoted his line about mobile first aid posts being useless. I was pointing out that they were NOT pointless. I am a member of SJA in Australia - I know what kind of things we treat at our first aid posts, and when we use HCP's. But I wasn't writing an essay in a YouTube comment.
@timmyga132 Hi Dood. Do check out the latest info written on this video. hope you understand more of what the members do.Any more questions, then visit your local members when you see them out at a event.
I speak from experience. I am from a divison who have two treatment centres. One on a fiat chassis and one newer one on a Citroen. The reason i say they are pointless is because to be classed as a treatment centre they only have to have two are afa trained in my county. 9/10 times when our tc's are used (which is most times) they are crewed by 3 people 2 people with afa and one person who can drive the treatment centres. The driver normally will then take a back seat role
I speak from experience. I am from a divison who have two treatment centres. One on a fiat chassis and one newer one on a Citroen. The reason i say they are pointless is because to be classed as a treatment centre they only have to have two are afa trained in my county. 9/10 times when our tc's are used (which is most times) they are crewed by 3 people 2 people with afa and one person who can drive the treatment centres. The driver normally will then take a back seat role
@timmyga132 Ok. Thanks for replying. My thoughts were that the public read this info, and may choose agree with negative comments about the units. Which will not do the image much good. As I am sure your fully aware. How about you contact other counties to have higher level members (ETA, nurse etc) on your units when duties require. I thought thats what counties do anyway. With regards to the video, I think its pretty good. The first one to show the motorbikes. Hope to see more of them soon.
@Rob1992SJA I'm in London, and theres always an ETA out with our MTU as this promotes good practice and a source of assistance if some of our more junior members become stuck...
@helenaustinfan Hi, Thanks for your message. How can we forget the future of the organisation, we got to look after junior members, or there perants wont want em to stay, which we cant have. Its great you have enough ETA's to know there's always someone who can help on the MTU. However my most favourite vehicles on the Video are the motorbikes, I seen them when I helped out at notting hill carnival in 2010 and thought they look great. haven't seen any more videos of them on here yet, See ya.
@Bluezn2z Hi dood. If you look on the roof you see amber light. My guess is it can go out to airport runway if a major incident occurs. As all vehicles that go on runways need amber lights. Also the unit goes to events that are likely to have a regular flow of casualties.Hence the space. It will have stretchers on board to keep casualties on for monitoring. Then if needed they will be transfered to a "Crusader 900" (St John Ambulance - Ambulance) for transfer to hospital. Hope this helps.
@Bluezn2z That is the legendary, "EALING HEALING" Bus, its a mobile treatment centre, with room for 3 Beds, Large Kitchen Units full of first aid gear, Oh and 12 Seats in the staff room at the back. Such a clever vehicle, shame it goes to the lovely scrap heap in the skies in a few weeks time!
@Bluezn2z Im just wondering a volunteer organisation is provided with such a high quality of kit, like 2 £20,000 grand bikes for example? Are they front line emergency service or something ?
@elcomcf Hi mate I wouldnt say that they are a 'front line service' obviously the provide a backup like the Red Cross do at major events! and Yes I was shocked to see those 2 motorbikes!!,,as you say they dont come cheap!!!...maybe some SJA members could comment?
St John Ambulance is a charitable organisation and members are volunteers, but they do have several sources of income. There is a fee for attending events, as well first aid training and supplies. They get grants, bequests, and donations from the public and other organisations. London is a huge area, so that division probably gets a lot of business.
Divisions use vehicles appropriate for the kind of work they do, and motorcycle units are certainly useful for these large scale events in London.
Unfortunately not all SJA divisions are as well off as the London folks. Coming from a much, much smaller division of St John Ambulance in Australia, we don't have anywhere near the level of resources or funding our counterparts have. Our ambulances are a bit long in the proverbial teeth, and we don't even have a golf buggy, let alone motorcycle units!
@timmyga132 "It may be because your in a different country"
There are small differences, but I'm pretty sure our funding models are similar. St John in the UK is just as much a volunteer organisation as we are. It's just simple economics and scaling; London is huge, and the size contributes directly to how much income can be raised from the various sources. My division is about a thousand times smaller, and obviously doesn't have the same revenue potential as larger divisions.
@AnonymousDiv0 Hi. Appologies for writting to you instead of timmyga132, I clicked on wrong paragraph. Its puzzling what that person has written. I think that person has wrong idea of what members do. I wrote the extra stuff to enlighten them. hope paragraphs are not too long. Keep up the good work.
@elcomcf In answer to your question about the bikes, they are a nessicary resource to provide the very best care at an event which is heavily pedestrianised or is spread over a long distance i.e notting hill or the London to Brighton bike race. They go on the same courses the Ambulance Service motorcycle medics go on. And to be fair, we have 6 bikes in london, and all of them are nessicary in the provision of the best care possible...
Great pictures!
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MrMOwens09 1 month ago
Dear bluez n2z how do u make a video then upload it to becuase when i put a video on from avs to youtube i did not work any ideas thank you jamie blunden
jamie8347 6 months ago
The level of medical aid in the units are varied lots, depending on the event. Sometimes first aid level is good enough. Other times we have our own ambulance crews helping out. These are trained to the same level as a NHS Ambulance Technician. Only occasionally a nurse or Doctor will be on a unit. This is only so some problems can be sorted there and not go to hospital. Ask the 4000+ people treated from the london Marathon if its pointless.
Rob1992SJA 8 months ago
At last, a video to show of the great motorbikes used in the organisation!!. Seen them at the Notting Hill carnival last year, and so jealous! Would love one in every county!!
Rob1992SJA 8 months ago
@Rob1992SJA Cheers for your comments :)
Bluezn2z 8 months ago
I believe Cardiff City Division were about the first ever to have motorbikes....way back in the late 1960's under the control of Doug Hartley Div Supt
SuperGrocerman 6 months ago
As one of the many FRONTLINE DRIVERS St John Ambulance has trained and can be seen on the streets of London most weekends answering 999 calls, allow me to dispell some myths:
St John Ambulance has crews on 999 response EVERY DAY. Our Blue light drivers are all highly trained, more so the motorcyclists and solo car drivers. When London can't handle the volume, we step in and take up the slack. First Aid is just a small part of what we do these days,
gringobomba14 9 months ago
@gringobomba14 Hi, I like your discription of what the crews actually do. Is there any way this can be put up on all the video clips that are on here?. At least more folk will understand what your guys do. I am a member of Bedfordshire, us to be AFA. now support aswant a break from it. I would of liked to do this duty, but we all were told London not want us! So will hope for the next royal event. As we dont do 999 work in Beds, can you let us know what you respond to please. Cheers.
Rob1992SJA 8 months ago
lol, bus ambulance
lukey123MW 9 months ago
@lukey123MW any idea what they use this thing for???
Bluezn2z 9 months ago
@Bluezn2z They are basically mobile hospitals but smaller and the people treating are more than likely just first aid trained so are pretty pointless.
timmyga132 9 months ago
@timmyga132 "They are basically mobile hospitals but smaller and the people treating are more than likely just first aid trained so are pretty pointless."
They are designed primarily for first aid purposes, rather than intensive care. But if they're deployed at a large event they will almost certainly have St John paramedics, nurses, and/or doctors available to staff them and supervise the first aid personnel. Anybody who needs treatment won't think that they're pointless!
AnonymousDiv0 9 months ago
@AnonymousDiv0 Hi Dood. Your discription is completely incorrect about mobile first aid units. You should visit one when your next out at a event and ask what the folk actually do in there. They deal with anything from a bee sting to a collapsed person, may be from heart attack. Also treat fractures. women gone into labour. There are many other problems these members deal with.Members do not have nurses supervising. They get on with it themselves.
Rob1992SJA 8 months ago
@AnonymousDiv0 Hey dood , do read the notes that are now added to this video, You should then see the units are not pointless. Your views are completly wrong. So go visit a unit one day and see what levels of first aid are offered to the public.
Rob1992SJA 8 months ago
@Rob1992SJA "You should then see the units are not pointless. Your views are completly wrong. "
I think you must have gotten confused about who/what you were replying to. My comment was responding to somebody else, and I quoted his line about mobile first aid posts being useless. I was pointing out that they were NOT pointless. I am a member of SJA in Australia - I know what kind of things we treat at our first aid posts, and when we use HCP's. But I wasn't writing an essay in a YouTube comment.
AnonymousDiv0 8 months ago
@timmyga132 Hi Dood. Do check out the latest info written on this video. hope you understand more of what the members do.Any more questions, then visit your local members when you see them out at a event.
Rob1992SJA 8 months ago
@Rob1992SJA Hi
I speak from experience. I am from a divison who have two treatment centres. One on a fiat chassis and one newer one on a Citroen. The reason i say they are pointless is because to be classed as a treatment centre they only have to have two are afa trained in my county. 9/10 times when our tc's are used (which is most times) they are crewed by 3 people 2 people with afa and one person who can drive the treatment centres. The driver normally will then take a back seat role
timmyga132 8 months ago
@Rob1992SJA Hi
I speak from experience. I am from a divison who have two treatment centres. One on a fiat chassis and one newer one on a Citroen. The reason i say they are pointless is because to be classed as a treatment centre they only have to have two are afa trained in my county. 9/10 times when our tc's are used (which is most times) they are crewed by 3 people 2 people with afa and one person who can drive the treatment centres. The driver normally will then take a back seat role
timmyga132 8 months ago
@timmyga132 Ok. Thanks for replying. My thoughts were that the public read this info, and may choose agree with negative comments about the units. Which will not do the image much good. As I am sure your fully aware. How about you contact other counties to have higher level members (ETA, nurse etc) on your units when duties require. I thought thats what counties do anyway. With regards to the video, I think its pretty good. The first one to show the motorbikes. Hope to see more of them soon.
Rob1992SJA 8 months ago
@Rob1992SJA Yes the video is good. I can also see you point about negative comments and the public view.
And we have higher ranked and higher trained members but as the units are out at least 5 nights a week you cant expect them to do everynight
timmyga132 8 months ago
@Rob1992SJA I'm in London, and theres always an ETA out with our MTU as this promotes good practice and a source of assistance if some of our more junior members become stuck...
helenaustinfan 5 months ago
@helenaustinfan Hi, Thanks for your message. How can we forget the future of the organisation, we got to look after junior members, or there perants wont want em to stay, which we cant have. Its great you have enough ETA's to know there's always someone who can help on the MTU. However my most favourite vehicles on the Video are the motorbikes, I seen them when I helped out at notting hill carnival in 2010 and thought they look great. haven't seen any more videos of them on here yet, See ya.
Rob1992SJA 4 months ago
@Bluezn2z Hi dood. If you look on the roof you see amber light. My guess is it can go out to airport runway if a major incident occurs. As all vehicles that go on runways need amber lights. Also the unit goes to events that are likely to have a regular flow of casualties.Hence the space. It will have stretchers on board to keep casualties on for monitoring. Then if needed they will be transfered to a "Crusader 900" (St John Ambulance - Ambulance) for transfer to hospital. Hope this helps.
Rob1992SJA 8 months ago
@Bluezn2z
Mobile Treatment Unit (MTU)
radionerdz 5 months ago
@Bluezn2z That is the legendary, "EALING HEALING" Bus, its a mobile treatment centre, with room for 3 Beds, Large Kitchen Units full of first aid gear, Oh and 12 Seats in the staff room at the back. Such a clever vehicle, shame it goes to the lovely scrap heap in the skies in a few weeks time!
malonefan 2 months ago
cheers mate) thay are amazing)
RussianEmergencyCars 9 months ago
nice m8 see my new videos :D
112Eindhoven 9 months ago
@Bluezn2z Im just wondering a volunteer organisation is provided with such a high quality of kit, like 2 £20,000 grand bikes for example? Are they front line emergency service or something ?
elcomcf 9 months ago
@elcomcf Hi mate I wouldnt say that they are a 'front line service' obviously the provide a backup like the Red Cross do at major events! and Yes I was shocked to see those 2 motorbikes!!,,as you say they dont come cheap!!!...maybe some SJA members could comment?
Bluezn2z 9 months ago
St John Ambulance is a charitable organisation and members are volunteers, but they do have several sources of income. There is a fee for attending events, as well first aid training and supplies. They get grants, bequests, and donations from the public and other organisations. London is a huge area, so that division probably gets a lot of business.
Divisions use vehicles appropriate for the kind of work they do, and motorcycle units are certainly useful for these large scale events in London.
AnonymousDiv0 9 months ago
Unfortunately not all SJA divisions are as well off as the London folks. Coming from a much, much smaller division of St John Ambulance in Australia, we don't have anywhere near the level of resources or funding our counterparts have. Our ambulances are a bit long in the proverbial teeth, and we don't even have a golf buggy, let alone motorcycle units!
AnonymousDiv0 9 months ago
@AnonymousDiv0 It may be because your in a different country
timmyga132 9 months ago
@timmyga132 "It may be because your in a different country"
There are small differences, but I'm pretty sure our funding models are similar. St John in the UK is just as much a volunteer organisation as we are. It's just simple economics and scaling; London is huge, and the size contributes directly to how much income can be raised from the various sources. My division is about a thousand times smaller, and obviously doesn't have the same revenue potential as larger divisions.
AnonymousDiv0 9 months ago
@AnonymousDiv0 Hi. Appologies for writting to you instead of timmyga132, I clicked on wrong paragraph. Its puzzling what that person has written. I think that person has wrong idea of what members do. I wrote the extra stuff to enlighten them. hope paragraphs are not too long. Keep up the good work.
Rob1992SJA 8 months ago
@elcomcf In answer to your question about the bikes, they are a nessicary resource to provide the very best care at an event which is heavily pedestrianised or is spread over a long distance i.e notting hill or the London to Brighton bike race. They go on the same courses the Ambulance Service motorcycle medics go on. And to be fair, we have 6 bikes in london, and all of them are nessicary in the provision of the best care possible...
helenaustinfan 5 months ago
Such *
elcomcf 9 months ago
Why have they sucj good kit? Are they not volunteer or are they primary response somewhere?
elcomcf 9 months ago
Great! Loved the sprinter and crusader responding but that golf buggy is weird but perfect for London. Great work.
PoliceAmbulanceFire 9 months ago
@PoliceAmbulanceFire Cheers! ye I had a laugh when I saw that thing on the low loader! go past! :)
Bluezn2z 9 months ago
Some great footage there, good stuff!
bosco1013 9 months ago
@bosco1013 Thanks mate :)
Bluezn2z 9 months ago