NorthWest DC-9 Powerback @KMSP

[JFK90]

lol



[MesserProductions2]

i dont think Delta allows that.

[dzmann410]

Charles Harison!!!!! Get ur ass over to the terminal

[jackd166]

Seems dangerous. The plane moves forward before going back

[magnus466]

While I was in college working the ramp for Eastern Airlines at Hartsfield in Atlanta, we regularly powerbacked B727s, DC-9s and B757s. The sequence allowed us to turn around flights must faster than pushbacks. The gusts coming from the 757 were thrilling.....The DC9s simply screamed while backing out of the gates...Awesome.....

[doug9driver]

No, there is nothing unsafe. The pilot is watching the directions of the co-ordinater walking him/her out. I've done hundreds of them in this aircraft and 727s.

[Beanz920]

very nice

[Brad1711]

Wish I could do this on the Warrior... last time I flew, some a-hat decided he didn't need to park on the Ts and ended up blocking one whole end of the ramp. Of course I didn't know this until I got down there and had to make a 180 in between four randomly parked planes. Really had to ride the inside brake to make it, meaning I had to give it the gas.  Fortunately I turned such that my propwash would hit his plane and not the people who actually parked where they were supposed to lol

[CAL2177]

Powerback from gate is an authorized procedure in the DC-9 family of aircraft. No harm is done to the engines.

[ManOfMeans]

If jets can do this on their own, why the hell do they still use the tractors to push out then?

[amirbatna]

Because that requires a lot of fuel. Also, it's a little less safe because the pilots don't see where they are going.

[WarthogMist08]

It can only be done with aircraft like the DC-9 which have high-up, tail mounted engines. It can't be done in something like a 737 or an A320, because the engines are mounted in such a position that it could pose a risk of foreign object damage, from loose items and debris on the ground being blown back into the engine. They can also overheat too if there isn't enough airflow through them (which is normally created by the aircraft moving forward at speed).

[VMKDarthVaderRox]

i was at TPA and the Airtran airways 717's still powerpack.and the pilots have to look at the ground crew to know where to turn

[ManOfMeans]

Thank you, WarthogMist08. That was actually an intelligent response. I actually think I learned something! Thanks!

[RHCP9181]

@WarthogMist08 true. i fly the 757 and my plane can do it but i choose not too.

[bagelboi66]

@WarthogMist08 True enough, nevertheless I did once see a 737 use reverse thrust maneuvering on the apron at CFB Namao. I was only about seven at the time and was there with my dad. He still talks about it because at the time everyone there thought it was the damnedest thing they'd ever seen. The jet was in the orange Canadian Pacific Airlines livery but I don't to this day know why it was on the base nearly forty years ago. I also remember those silly five step escalators at YEG...

[meteors6]

and its hard on the engines to powerback

[bamaslamma1003]

@meteors6 How is it hard on the engines? In a powerback, they are using just enough thrust to make the plane move. When they use reverse thrust on landing, the engines are at full power.

[meteors6]

ok and look less off the engines and Delta now barely does the thrust reverse on them becuase it saves a lot of fuel and yeah it is hard on the engines doing that i would know i worked on them

[sailesh2001]

looked like a fed-ex 727,

[nikrox9]

if it were a 727 it would have an engine in the tail?

[RHCP9181]

@nikrox9 correct

[whatelsecangowrong]

@nikrox9 hes talking about the fucking plane in the background u tard

[didu52]

@nikrox9 Yeah. 727's were tri holers. Like the DC-10. :)

[ilf93dimarco]

@sailesh2001 how stupid are you?

[sailesh2001]

@ilf93dimarco we're talking about the plane in the background at 16 seconds, we all know the main plane is a dc-9 duh

[whatelsecangowrong]

@ilf93dimarco he was talking about the plane in the background around 15 seconds

[whatelsecangowrong]

that was a championair that tokeoff in the background at around 16 sec

[fwends4eba]

That is at kmsp? that is one of my favorite airports

[jalex023]

in colombia is prohibited with the all airplanes.

[Floh]

they are called by the ground atc: "Clearead for Pushback" so they probably know that there's no one behind them.

Also the Ramp Agent is connected to the Pilots in the Cockpit and can tell them when to stop pushback if there's no pushback car needed.

If the Airplane finished its Pushback the Ramp Agent tells the Pilots, that they are cleared for taxi and gives them a hand signal. Then the Airplane contacts Ground again for the Taxi Clearance.

[ASSHOLESHITBITCXH]

but how can they see whats behind them?

[airplanecrazy1989]

they have people on the ground directing them

[mmochick]

how many passsengers will this little DC9hold?

[wfo76]

"how many passengers will this little DC9 hold?"

In Northwest configuration,

DC-9-10 ..... 78 pax

DC-9-30 ... 100 pax

DC-9-40 ... 110 pax

DC-9-50 ... 125 pax

The DC-9-10 has been retired but the -30, -40 and -50 are still flying. Long live the DC9!

[radjafan]

dat is gaaf..

[xxxlayxlowxxx]

Yeah live in MSP fly NWA all the time they powerback all the planes except the really big ones. Everytime you fly NWA they power back, I love those DC-9s they have so many and I fly one dang near every time. I love the noise.

[nwafan20]

Northwest only powerbacked their DC-9, because wing mounted engines create too much of a FOD risk. NW also stopped powerbacking the DC-9's as of this year to save fuel costs.

[tpaairman]

Actually they also did powerbacks witht eh 727 as well

[bmused55]

Awesome.

Although there are a quite a few aircraft that can do that, no many do.

[Jokester185]

all aircraft has reverse thrust, that is partially how the slow down, using reverse thrust

[bmused55]

I know that.

I meant there are several types of aircraft that can move backward with their own reverse thrust, but due to FOD risk, its not a common occurence.

[Jokester185]

true

[jesusrulesflight]

all dont

the rj100/85 or what ever and the atr dont

[DapperJas]

some do.

[GOJETCRJPILOT]

i always pitied the guys on the ground at the northwest terminal lol

[jesusrulesflight]

hey dude didn't u fall asleep at the yoke while flying the other week

[miracleeraser]

go is not gojet

[robjob666]

dc9's are definitely the loudest plane in nwa's fleet

[oreoweb6]

yup but deltas 757s noise level made the dc9s sound gentle

[ComradeRed88]

screw getting a tug, they just do it themselves! wonder why....

[Jokester185]

probably because they can lower the cost of the gate usage fee

[ibook133]

Wooosh! And back you go!

[wdwron08]

I love when DC-9's and MD-80's Powerback I have experienced it on a American MD-80 in Dallas in 1996. What a Rush. Love the sound of the engines when the Thrust Reversers are deployed

[YxJames]

Woot. The Ground Personel Should Get WAYY Back.

[iamccman]

I love when your in MSP at a gate with a DC9. You can hear it turn on and i just love the sound of the DC-9.

[markuss1977]

I know Mr. Bruce Myers. He,s a nice gentleman!

[lagavulin29]

Say hi to him ;)

[zzarnticolz]

Bruce Miers get ur ass to the plane.

[lagavulin29]

:-D well that wasn't me ....

[Cessna154]

Power...lots of power...