What's behind the world economic meltdown? Chris Bambery, editor of Socialist Worker, 25 Sept 2008

[misterwipedown]

sorry I don't speak your 'bubbla bubbla' language

[kocevje26]

yugoslavija was a nice country bloving up by nice peaceful demokrats !and now we have demokratie evrebody hates evrebody,we make difrences between religion colour nacionality !you bring us pain broke countrys and economy you give us Mtv ,coca cola, marlboro, mcdonalds,nike,your musik your culture to make us STUPID LIKE YOU ARE!!!your goverment controls you but for us still no !!!so fuck demokratie and the west !one day is this your end as a worldpolice !im hapy abouth the world economy problems

[ButherLi55ett]

@kocevje26 The world economy crisis is not a good thing. It is 'good' in that workers' are thinking about why it has happened, what causes it, how we could live differently etc. I want democracy, workers' democracy to the fullest. Not bourgeois democracy, 'liberal democracy', parliamentary democracy or any of this other shit. The UK still has elements of feudalism for fuck sake, we have a monarchy even!

[kocevje26]

thats was the reason to destroid it kapitalisam 100% buy all!!! make buisness worldwide ! dont mether how many people die, lie to the media !send wrong news in the world ,and find a agressor that was in this moment srbija becouse thay want to hold yugoslavia togheter so lets send the NATO to bring yugoslav people demokratie and peace !that s the truth abouth west usa eu if you are not dancing like they want they destroid you killing in the name of kapitalism !

[kocevje26]

i was growing up in socialist republick of YUGOSLAVIJA we were peaceful country !no nacionalizm, rassizm,but like we know a demokratik kapitalistik country USA;EUROPEEN UNION destroid us !the worldbank with imbargo than they send agents they make thair job very good our economy broke thogeter they send money for weapons and lets destroid komumistik country yugoslavija put it in to 6 small peaces to controll it bether !yugoslav words were we dont want others only ours we defent!

[gettingchilli]

its dumb how people fink socialist dnt believe in freedom anarchist socialist stop reading the sun newspaper

[BringBack500s]

You are absolutely correct, Sicoalists have no interest in freedom of speech, except for those who have earned the right the right to free speech, that is the people who have created everything in society, that is the people who work. That is the working class.

All the rest, up against the wall motherfcukers.

Next?

[jack1980a]

I wish socialists would just say they don't believe in freedom. Then maybe we could have real conversation.

[cayetanoluis]

I suppose that socialists don't feel any obligation to conform to your erroneous stereotypes. Perhaps if you acknowledged that socialism isn't synonymous with Stalinism, then maybe we could have a real conversation.

[freedombiteback]

By accepting what we are told and experience life can be easier. There is the social pressure to 'fit in', which is immensely strong in most cultures. Questioning the status quo carries the danger of ostracism, possibly persecution and Death (insiders/whistle blowers tend to be Murdered). This aspect has a strong link with politics. People doing well under the current system are not inclined to look favourably on those who question the system..I Fear no Evil nor tell no Lies....

[freedombiteback]

It looks like your the idiot here Christian !........

[freedombiteback]

The Culling of the Christians !....= Socialism = Conceived by jewish Carl Marx.......

[silvypilvy]

No matter how much I try I just don't understand how socialism would work. Could someone help me out? Thank you!

[freedombiteback]

(World Recession) If These Banksters and Corporation had lost all this Money (Fiat Money) then the Simple Question is WHERE HAS ALL THE MONEY GONE !!?? .Ps they (Media/Press/TV/Puppet Leaders) tell us that Asia is also in Recession (China/Japan/India).....Resear­ch the New World Order ! on here youtube for the answer..

[BVargas78]

The money hasnt exactly gone because it never actually existed. Capitalism is like a house of cards because of a lot of the wealth comes from speculative value rather than a real physical product.

All this lost money is from hugely inflated values of financial services products, when the root of real wealth comes from physical things and production.

[freedombiteback]

Where has all the money gone ??? also how is money created ???..

[BVargas78]

The money was created when the banks and financial companies where on the world stock exchanges.

They initially seemed to show promise as they were generating profit and their share values shot up as many wanted to buy a slice of the cake, only to get hit two fold, on the one side a lot of the money invested was wasted and a lot of the speculated value on these companies then came crashing down, wiping out billions in share value. So a big portion of the money lost is from the speculated value

[freedombiteback]

(Que Bono : Latin)Communism/Socialism is a jewish experiment,commissioned by Lord jewish Rothschild (AKA the bank of Englad fact!) and conceived by jewish Carl Marx (who wrote the Communist manifesto) A means of Enslaving the masses by the few !Then we have Starlin ,Trotsky ,Lenin and 80% of bolshevik leaders were ALL JEWS !(Who murdered 10s of millions of Russia Christian !).So Who Benefits ?Que Bono?. Ps our leaders are owned! by the same Banksters. Research the New World Oder on here youtube

[Ilikenuman]

Yeah, first of all Stalin is rejected by "actual" socialists. Second, you cant even spell Stalin and Karl Marx.

And thirdly, Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky and Marx were all atheists. Youre an idiot

[freedombiteback]

"Ignorance is bliss" Essentially ?...

[freedombiteback]

And you say: Stalin is rejected by "actual" socialists,pray tell us who are these actual" socialists are ?

[Ilikenuman]

the ones who follow marxs idea and accept that socialism can only come through gradual progression, not some aggressive forceful revolution, "democratic" or not.

Stalin TOOK, real communism would simply be a matter of them GIVING.

to put it simply any way

[freedombiteback]

Sorry it must be the way i ask the question.Ok, who are the ONES ?....

[Ilikenuman]

lol pretty much everyone youre addressing here^^

[freedombiteback]

Atheists are non Christian (Anti-Christ)...

[Ilikenuman]

atheist means Non religious.

Im an anti christ as much as im an anti muslim

[freedombiteback]

OK, your a Anti - judaism Socialist ?...Ps you do have one thing in common though ,and that is you've all helped to Murder tens of Millions of Christians hmm....

[Ilikenuman]

for gods sake!

I am not anti religious, im simply NON religious. I dont share your beliefs in a deity. I am an atheist. which means i dont believe in any god.

Thats all atheist means.

And as for my socialism? I would not wish to force it upon anybody. If blood has to be shed to promote your cause, then your cause cant be all that great. I am a marxist at heart, but i am also a realist.

Is it that easy to misinterpret?

[freedombiteback]

Ilikenuman --> ''for gods sake!'' (what god?) then --> ''which means i dont believe in any god.Thats all atheist means.'' !?! (Confusion)...marxist (jew) has been the death of tens Millions of Christians !.

[Ilikenuman]

for gods sake is a figure of speech used by EVERYONE who speaks english. and im not jewish either. I dont even have jewish blood. Im an 8th german and the rest of me is scottish i think.

I have nothing against christians, i dont agree with christianity, or any other religion, but i dont hate religious people.

[freedombiteback]

Many people throughout human existence have questioned and enquired. Most of them have not been scientists or doctors or philosophers, but simply ordinary people asking 'what if?' or 'why?' Asking these questions ultimately leads us to a choice. Do you continue to ask and investigate, or do you stop and never ask again? Ps you have been Con-ditioned friend.....

[Ilikenuman]

conditioned? how dare you? ive grown up in a higly capitalist society. These conclusions have come through my own observations and calculations. if im shown to be wrong ill accept and re asses.

and by the way, KARL Marx, opposed ALL religion. And he never killed a soul

[Ilikenuman]

not to mention the fact that england is still mostly run by the church of england. Im an atheist but i grew up in christian schools. Ive not been brainwashed by anyone

[freedombiteback]

KARL Marx Born a Jew and he's Socialist doctrine helped Murder tens of Millions of Christians,this is a Fact !......Ask yourself why the Socialist Media have'nt told you this fact,but yet you are fully aware of the Millions of JEWS that were Murdered !..Ps as i said, you are Con-ditioned away from your Birthright (ie :freeman on the land/Sovereignty) Google my friend.Question : are you a human or a Person please ? ......

[Ilikenuman]

hahahahahahaha, Kent hovind bullshit.

Freemasons! the eyes! the triangles.

murdered when? the holucaust or in the gulag?

[freedombiteback]

Please read :FREEMAN ON THE LAND !..Ps whois Kent hovind ?....

[Ilikenuman]

yes but not every socialist is a nazi. im not a nazi. end of! you might aswell say all germans were nazis too. or all nationalists were nazis. doesnt work that way.

[freedombiteback]

It works anyway the Master whats (Lord Rothschild)....Are you a Person or a Human please?......Ps you have a lot to learn grasshopper!....

[Ilikenuman]

let me guess.

"NO, youre a person and a PERSON! You see? In this special document you have your name written in full capital letters, which makes you a product of the state. which in itself is a corporation. All leading back to the catholic church.

Even though most of europe renounced the catholic church a good 500 years ago....

[Ilikenuman]

and karl marx didnt even invent communism! Neither did engels! It was a theory that had been built upon for decades before him

[Ilikenuman]

and jews were killed in the holucaust. AND communists, AND social democrats. the story makes no sense

[freedombiteback]

You talk of Khazar Jews (Con-verts / Plastic Jews)not Biblical Jews like the blood of Abraham,who Lord Rothschilds cliam to be !...I'll say again friend Adolf Hitler was funded by Lord Rothschild (jew) also Socialism is a jewish experiment,commissioned by the same Nefarian Lord Rothschild !....

[Ilikenuman]

stop calling him friend adolf hitler! and anyway, he almost lost in the elections, and he was neck and neck with the communists. and by the way, neither lenin nor stalin were jewish by blood either.

[Ilikenuman]

and before i even continue with this drivel.

If what you are saying is true. how come the author of that book hasnt been killed yet? How come so many people "know" it? If this were true, you wouldnt be saying it to me.

[Ilikenuman]

and what of che guevara? he was a renowned anti semite, and hugo chavez is a catholic. not to mention george galloway being a muslim and anti zionist..

[freedombiteback]

All this is a matter of record (hidded in plan sight). JewTube is Censoring my comments again Sorry.The names you've mentioned are Agents of Rome !.....Ps including the Black Pope,Pope Benedict (SS hitler Youth)....

[freedombiteback]

Che Guevara (bonafide) was sold out (stabbed in the back) by he's so called friend Fidel Castro !.........

[Ilikenuman]

if he got sold out by castro? how come cuba stands defiantly against america even to this day? america opposes communism at all levels... yet you say america is owned by the same conspirators who came up with communism. do you verify anything you see written down? did you just read that book and take it as fact?

[freedombiteback]

From Castro to the Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei they are all Agents (members of a nefarian brotherhood) ! the Elite believe we sheeple need fear so they can Con-trolo us !...Galloway / Chavez (Socialist Chavez is Obama's best friend,you will see !)and Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe (He attended a Jesuit school ) are all apart of this Global Culling / Depopulation Agenda.

[freedombiteback]

The Sheeple were given a enemy (Communism and capitalism) to con-trol us !(fear),but the puppet Government leaders are in on it (the ma-trix was made by a Freemason).And now the same Sheeple have been given a new enemy (fear) Islam ! with a man (Laden) hiding in a third World Cave,with a lap top lol come on folks wake up soon,for we may need you..Ps The Japans Christians predominately lived the Japanese city of Hiroshima and Nagasaki when a son of a mule trader president Truman'.

[freedombiteback]

We here in the UK are Protestant (protesters ) Reformed Religion established by law,which means we are protesters of the Law of Rome... Guy Fawkes (agent) try to blow up parliament because of our Common Laws ! (our Birthright /Freeman on the Land)..Ps the Queen is a Steward !..The Truth is stranger than Fiction my friend.....

[freedombiteback]

Iran,Cuba,South Korea are all Engineered Fears !, just like are new friends China and Russia was the old Fears remember my friend ?....Lucifer offers Power and Knowledge,but expects Wars and Death !..Ps the secret societies secrets are : Lucifer is God !...Also as i've stated all this infomation is a matter of Record.....Do your home work,please don't believe me,

[freedombiteback]

just like our* new friends China and Russia

[freedombiteback]

You are a Person (persona) because our Government was tricked into Debt,so the Jewish Banksters own us through their debt !.......

[Ilikenuman]

tricked into debt yes. but who do the people serve mentally? is it the federal reserve or the president? any moves made against the president, the people can relate to and intervene. what is power? weapons. no army of angry people will ever be overcome by a scrap of paper.

and before germany went under hitlers leadership, they owed alot of money to france... who are a protestant (now secular) nation. and i notice you didnt mention galloway or chavez

[freedombiteback]

Fascism = N.A.Z.I Means in English : National SOCIALIST Party !...Also we have to bare in mind that Adolf Hitler was funded by Jewish Lord Rothschild aka Bank of England (it's a matter of Record now).So Cui Bono ?,well lets say it this way 30 Million plus Christians were MURDERED !,

[Navywxman]

silvy - google 'world socialist movement' and click the first link. Check out the site there is alot of helpful info. Also you can download on google video the film 'Capitalism and other kid stuff'

I hope they help you get a better understanding. It can be difficult getting good info in the US. The propaganda machine here that serves the interests of wealth has made huge efforts to turn people against it and to embrace what enslaves them ie. capitalism

[BVargas78]

Socialism can work as an efficient economic system, even the soviet union proved that a planned economy can work, despite its obvious flaws in terms of human rights and the wastage in costly cold war campaigns. Our world won't be able to change to socialism overnight and an attempt to rush it would make things worse but i think it could be possible, if the move was gradual.

[CRAPCANNONS]

When revolutionary change comes, we'll be pointing the guns AT you.

Until then, enjoy disappearing up your own ass.

[CRAPCANNONS]

You, "fashion5", are not going to bring revolutionary change. You have no original ideas. You follow trends. You do not fight for individual freedom yourself, yet presume to fight for it for others.

Your type are not revolutionaries. You are conformist, humorless, thought-policing, cowardly twats. You are fake Robin Hoods. You wear CHE t-shirts but argue for big government bureaucracy. Your type actually fear freedom while claiming to fight for it.

[alfrmo63]

socialism from below, led by those from above!! this bunch of revolutionaries even have a prayer room at their annual event Marxism (I wonder what comrade Marx would have made of that progressive move!!) The SWP has lost all credibility, and believes it has the divine right to lead all struggles, and goes from industrial base, to populist movements. The crisis is planned, and this plan is to re-align wealth and power towards world government.

[CRAPCANNONS]

You're one step behind me, little girl...

After this form of Capitalism, yet another -ism isn't the solution (esp. not Socialism)

Time for bed, perhaps?

[ChrisEdwards2004]

Capitalism is an "ism", muddlehead.

The rumours of the death of socialism have been greatly exaggerated.

[CRAPCANNONS]

ChrisEdwards2004-

1. I already addressed your `problem' below;

2. Socialism, like other -isms, only works on paper and is usually ruined by thick-skulled yet narrow-minded people who understand neither economics nor human nature;

3. If you are not yourself Muslim (ergo non-Western), you are one of these typical self-hating lefty ponces seeking to diminish the West to 3rd world misery.

Pol Pot was educated at the Sorbonne. You are of the same bitter ilk.

Now go away.

[Jimisonjons]

Honestly, any self-right(wing)eous troll on youtube who spouts out pretentious unsubstantiated bullshit about "human nature" in the same sentence as "economics" deserves a good Socialist Brick of Justice (SBOJ) in the head. Now fuck off.

[CRAPCANNONS]

Jimisonjons-

I see. Anyone who defends himself from insults from a `fellow comrade' is a troll, and anyone who disagrees with the party line is threatened with a `Socialist Brick of Justice' in the head. Nice. Very civilized. And not pretentious at all.

And who's going to deliver this blow? You? Allow me and my 2nd Amendment to laugh in your face.

So yes keep dreaming of National Socialism. If it doesn't pan out for you sweetie you can always convert to Wahabism or join Scientology.

[CRAPCANNONS]

ah yes...

more -isms...

aren't we finally past the -isms?

aren't we post-ism now?

[tobaldwin]

No. Its just being realistic. The SWP have always had the anti midas touch...

The SWP believe in Socialism from above. And that has been totally discredited.

They think that the majority of people can not be trusted and need to be educated.

Myself i want to see real socialism. The majority of people in control not some new elite....

[adycousins]

you appear to have some mis-conceptions about what the SWP stands for - socialism from above isn't one of them.

[rayyyyyy1]

The SWP are totally discredited by their actions over the last 30 years.

Dogmatic,Sectarian and Hysterical.

The thing is now there is huge potential for a serious democratic party to the left of labour but it will never succeed if the SWP is even a part of it.

[adycousins]

rayyyyyy1 that's a bit hysterically sectarian and dogmatic isn't it?

[Audiocodes]

Spiv is a British word for a particular kind of petty criminal, who deals in stolen goods or fraudulent sales, especially a well-dressed man offering goods at bargain prices. The goods are generally not what they seem or have been obtained illegally. It was particularly used during the Second World War and in the Post-War rationing period for black-market dealers.

Source: Wikipedia.

[SKAMP57]

Kudos for posting the video but please frame the subject far enough back to save all the rocking back and forth and zooming in and out. I am getting motion sickness just watching!

[adycousins]

well just listen then, framing doesn't change the behaviour of the speaker...

[SKAMP57]

My comment was meant to be light hearted but perhaps I have been too irrelevant or is it irreverent?

I am not sure what your reply about changing the behaviour of the speaker means?

He is talking and I was interested to listen and it is hardly an action video but I did have to look away. Honest!

EG Looking at the speaker has a communication value. An earnest expression can garner trust.

I may concur with Chris but your curt response and the thumbs down has put me right off!

[adycousins]

steady on, the response was lighthearted too. The face is the centre of communication, many speakers gesticulate but it detracts rather from, reinforces what they are saying, so the face is what I focus on. Secondly, if one zooms out to capture the entire upper body here the two lights in the background cause the speaker's face to be underexposed.

[adycousins]

Thirdly, a camera left at the same angle for 49 minutes is visually boring and lifeless. I can't bring myself to do it because it looks like CCTV picture. So apologies for the curt response but I'm not conviced...

[nyroneuk]

thanks for putting this up..

[sal64lon]

This is fantastic thanks fort this video.

[Tinfoilhatlady]

thank you :)

xo

tfhl

[santino666]

This is fantastic. In these stages of crisis, ideas of Socialism start to emerge and become more mainstream and widespread.

Revolution Now!

[Maxuskrachus]

Political instability, economical breakdown, nuclear holocaust.

[3arabawy]

Thanks for documenting this..

[moneymagnetelizabeth]

Do not forget Blair, and the Queen and the Vatican.

[AMRPK]

Ady, do you have Paul Mason meeting on tape from Left List a few weeks back?

[adycousins]

Unfortunately not...

[neptuneey]

The Tabloid agenda is so disturbing, i read a page of The Star the other day and it stated something along the lines of wanting a referendum to abolish the ridiculous HUMAN RIGHTS ACT and as to wether we need to re-introduce the DEATH PENALTY.

WTF.....

[AMRPK]

Neptuneey, they know the shit is hiting the fan

so now is the time to put the boot into us. Yes, you and me, ordinary folk. Because people are questioning capitalism and if we try to do something about it eg strikes, occupations even revolution, they want the cops and army to do people down, hence your post above. They're frightened, they know they are, they don't want us to catch on to this.

[neptuneey]

We are waking up and en-masse.

The most disturbing thing, as pointed out in this video. Wake up then what, where is the help and support that has been amassed in the years building up to this. I have been acting alone making waves and enemies all over.

The whole world is protesting, but we are all seperate. We all belong together, we finally know our true enemy and the tactics they employ. Yet still we are not one voice, so many differeing protests but the exact same enemy. It is insane.

[joneselius]

it's all planned!

Our race has potential, such love and hope, we create the most wonderful things, yet we separate and fight.

if we do not unite under ONE BANNER, THE HUMAN RACE banner, we have no hope because the social norms and occupational pressures will ALWAYS trump the little protests and fighting they produce in little rebel groups.

We should come together, march on THEIR houses, drag them out and try them ALL for treason and killing the human race. But DON'T hurt them, lick em up

[straightchris]

Max Keiser of karmabanque had predicted what would happen about 3 years ago.

You know you can't say anything that can be perceived as libelous about global corporations on the BBC so what are you going to talk about?

[brendanmcooney]

Banging. Thanks for posting

[Xephon212]

What's a SPIV?

This video is brilliant. It deserves to be on Youtubes front page.