Sean Foley Thoughts on Solid Contact Golf Video Golf Channel

[vicmanuelarmenta]

It doesn't matter how your swing looks, in the end, where the ball goes is what matters

[bazabollox]

This is NOT stack & tilt, this is more like Gary Edwin's RSS, Right Sided Swing, as used by his compatriot, Rod Pamplin

[66ott7]

Would never try that in fear of blowing my knee out, but good tip.

[chrissimpson696]

@MrRagnello17 It's crazy how S&T it is, I suppose that's what you get when you work with Plummer & Bennett, but he will never admit its S&T! According to the golf channel, Foley = GOD S&T = Worthless Fad?

[fradaja]

absolute clarity!



[clarox2010]

GOLF IN THE WINTER WITH THE Prazza golf ball finder 2012 playing in the snow . PERFECT

[M4CH4fx]

he hits better one legged than i do two legged

[MrRagnello17]

Stack and Tilt much?

[Wheat2688]

u just stole the teachings of the tack and tilt guys

[1rmw]

finally a golf tip that makes some sense!!! so much shit out there.

[hitmanhawky]

i tell you who you can take advice from anyone who has won several majors like jack, lee, tom , arnold, nick, tiger, when these guys talk i listen,, yep i also do golf lessons on youtube @ hitmanhawky and i learned from you got it jack lee tom arnold nick, want to learn? watch the best and listen when they talk, tiger very smart guy and sean is a very good at what he does check my lessons out they may help if i can help in anyway holler thanks your friend hitmanhawky

[Camden1101]

Tiger won cuz he is tiger. not because of sean.

[stoney490]

Say 'hello' to ya motha for me.

[fsnicolas]

This is a great tip. My contact with the ball and consistency with distance and trajectory improved after I limited my back swing and kept my weight on top of the ball. The only weight shift made is into the front foot at the transition into the downswing. Shorter back swing, less effort, more power.

[thegolfacademyla1]

@fsnicolas

Exactly keep up the good work

[pipergolf]

stack and tilt is for pussies. load your weight back like a man, and drive through with some hip turn like an athlete for god sake.

[bigpokerboy]

@pipergolf HEY MAN... it works.. well.. i sway like fuck so im trying to use it.. hahah

[pipergolf]

@bigpokerboy use the other aspects of s&t like body position and shoulder turn. more often than not when you keep your wieght forward (for the average amateur) you lose hip turn and toss your hands at the ball. just practice stepping through the shot like gary pla 

[pipergolf]

@pipergolf *gary player

[bigpokerboy]

@pipergolf well the hip turn for this type of swing is where its ok to straighten your right leg... my problem is i still overswing across top of the backswing.. tips?

[thegolfacademyla1]

@pipergolf

obviously a total lack of understanding

[thegolfacademyla1]

@pipergolf

really clueless...yah just like Rocco he hits it really far right??

[pipergolf]

@thegolfacademyla1 just my opinion haha. not the end of the world sir haha.

[RK831]

STACK AND TILT!

[dazencody]

aka stack and tilt

[ianrogers1990]

what a idiot, harmon is right when he says transfer the weight but not sway.

[thegolfacademyla1]

@ianrogers1990

thats why so many players have left Butch (Tiger, Adam Scott, Els, Cink) and why Phil after 5 years with Butch has gotten worse

[AlexCzervic]

@thegolfacademyla1

Phil? Million $ swing 50 cent head, love him anyway.

[hiphop6911]

stack and tilt

[RetroJohnny1]

This is utter rubbish. Foley is giving you a drill for a swing fault. This isn't a method you want to adopt, unless you slide totally off the ball. Faldo played some of the best golf ever at the 1990 Open Championship, using the 'normal' method. He had his ball on the end of a string.

[thelumberjackjohn]

only do this wit irons.. you cant do this with driver maby 3 wood but you would have to be really accurate in your timing

[vidvivvid]

That drill has made the biggest impact on hitting pure shots for me. Try it. It works for every club. If you have trouble with 3 irons or driver it works great. It just shows you how your weight and balance should be at impact. The other drill I find works well is taking a step towards the target after hitting-again just gets your weight moving in the correct direction.

[suerdog]

I think this is why Tiger is playing badly. He used to have a very athletic swing and he fires his right side hard. This new swing I think requires a more passive lower body on the downswing. I think that is why he fired off 3 birdies early in the first round of the PGA this year, and then when his competitive juices were flowing he gets more active with the lower body. His lower body is then too far in front, out of sync with his upper body, and then he will either push it or hook it badly.

[MadinaxXxLake]

stack and tilt

[InfiniteDejaVu]

Matt Damon is Tiger Wood's swing coach.

[Corncrops]

Tiger, fire this moron before it's too late.

[13skinsfan69]

@Corncrops I think this is a good way to teach 60 yard and in shots. But no way am I hitting full shots like this. I agree, Tiger should just go back to Butch and dump this guy.

[thegolfacademyla1]

@Corncrops

clueless

[CaptainAndrewWiggins]

but my PGA said i should put a good amount of weight on my back foot? everyone seems to say conflicting things to me. e.g.. bend your knees more, don't bend your knees so much. and now this weight on the start of the back swing should be almost 50% on your front foot???

[RetroJohnny1]

@CaptainAndrewWiggins don't take advice from too many sources, it will send you crazy. Find a coach you believe in and just listen to them.

[fradaja]

@RetroJohnny1 so true or stick to one method and get good at it

[ivandaniel08]

He basically wants all shots to be like a pitch, right?

[Patchkaa33]

I think I finally understand this concept , you MUST stay centered or you start shifting the low point of the arc!

[craapula]

Tiger should work with Ben Doyle before its too late

[justinylee]

Very similar to S&T and geared toward one plane swing style. I think Foley is closer to Hogan than S&T but very similar. It works great on shorter irons but requires big hip slide on longer irons and woods to flatten the swing path. I used to shift my weight and move my head during my back swing. Now, I stay centered during my back swing.

[AlexBeachAB]

It's mind boggling that Woods made the choice to work with this guy.

[abeahc15]

Can't believe this guy is teaching Tiger...... actually I can't believe Tiger is working with him.

[abeahc15]

Can't believe this guy is teaching Tiger...... actually I can't believe Tiger is working with him.

[ansinkhh]

classic Shawn Clement swing. He has like 200 videos. Great instructor. But, I disagree with his opinion on transferring weight. It isn't that hard if you do the right pivot drills. That is 50/50 weight dist at address. 90/10 to the right (for right handers) at the top of the swing. Pivot and "landing" on the left with a 90/10 to the left at finish. Watch the hip action of a MLB pitcher then watch Rory McIlroy's drives. That's my "amateur" opinion. Happy golfing, y'all!

[siboy109]

I love seans philosophies and methods, but if u r going to do a demonstration of how to hit it solid don't thin it like he did haha

[stevepising]

Hmmm...

I'm just not sure about this method. I have always viewed weight on the target side at the top of the backswing as a reverse pivot and to be avoided. However, Mr Foley is a respected teacher and I see a few very good golfers using this technique, so i'll sit back and see how it goes for them. I'll stick to a more traditional method myself, however.

[dsizemore81]

@stevepising A "reverse pivot" is when the weight goes toward the target in the backswing and then away from the target in the downswing. This is not a reverse pivot. There are a few guys on tour that transfer their weight away from the target in the backswing, but they are few and far between. Majority of the good golfers today do not have a big move away from the ball or what you consider the "traditional method."

[muneyman68]

@dsizemore81 tiger played the best golf in history with the "traditional method"

[BossHoneycutt]

Enjoyment of the game. Yes, thank you.

[REZOFFICIAL]

Well, I purchased his Next generation blu-ray and it was easy as hell understanding his explanation of the golf swing. I've watched a few lessons gone out to the practice range, and I noticed a different sound at contact. Like a clicking noise, I'm swinging much easier and the ball is almost going as far as before. By a few yards but the biggest thing is the ball is gong in the desired direction more often. If I start slicing, I stop execute a few of Seans' drills and it works.

[helenathena]

its the sean foley method. not s and t..

[dagongshow]

If he is teaching Tiger stack and tilt techniques... with his driving accuracy... Galleries better start wearing hockey helmets.

[flapsfisherify]

Great vid. on the one footed drill, i've been taught (in lessons described as "the driver drill") to drag the right foot on around to the finished position as opposed to the way Sean seems to keep his toe planted. i think the end result of the drill may be the same, but would like to know if there's a reason for the difference....

[TJYeatonGolf]

Was the "I'm stacked" part edited out of this video?

[BKEALYable]

I really like the explanation of 55-45 weight displacement at address... thanks for the vid...

[resumep]

I like the drill, there is a better training aid Pivot Pro that is specifically designed and fixes this problem

[wantonjr1]

Most of these gurus can't break 80, so why would you listen to them ? Golf is about finding your own way and not about mechanics.

[Helveltom]

Es como Stack & Tilt

[ajmurphy21]

"...stays left and goes left" SHANK. should be 50:50 foley but thats fine

[ajmurphy21]

"...stays left and goes left" SHANK

[libville]

Watch Luke Donald hit a 100-140 yard approach. This is exactly what he does.

[golfnutster]

We all are constantly looking for ways to improve the contact of our golf club with our golf ball. Sean Foley's ideas are not new, but may have been forgotten. I am going to keep them in mind my next golf round.

[42jerseydawn]

It's the old "Flamingo Drill".....

[Mrsuperspeshial]

best golf coach in the world wish you would make more drill videos

[icon1011]

u are the best coach in the world ur so solid ur so much better then spencer

[2xtrbo]

If you are too short to see the flag over the hill - teach.

[earthshine2k]

@charlrogers1990 when he makes the 'one legged' swing, his head stays behind the ball throughout. He doesn't say anything about the HEAD being left. He says the weight stays left and get's more left. But, yes, the danger with this 'left, left, and more left' philosophy is to get set up over and then move in front of the ball. You're right, you can't play from there. Nicklaus stayed really centered, so did Hogan, but they used a left heel ball position. They were always behind the ball.

[yugrbugr]

Just watch Lee Westwood swing the bat.

[tommarrone]

watch hogan hit an iron.

[papou2142]

No S&T there. Beside keeping the weight over the ball the rest is traditional. I started using that before Foley and finally stopped hitting fat shots after fat shots. And I hit straighter too. Like the lot of teacher is overdoing the motion on purpose to make is point.

[smithersandburns]

@papou2142 No stack and tilt there? Wtf. That's what stack and tilt is, keeping your weight left during the backswing. Exactly what he described.

[Stiversgolf]

Don't listen to this it will cause a huge slice I was shooting low 70s before I saw his method then I got to high 70s which is not good and I'm moving my weight back again and I'm back to scratch

[jpaynecr]

@Stiversgolf Then you were not doing what he is saying. Most tour pros make a move that's very similar to this.

[the24thman]

This drill is great, but I'm not sure about that big hip slide Sean demonstrates before.

[slamdunk661]

@dschultz 6072. I think every player needs a coach to give them feedback and a second opinion. I am not sure that the opinion that Tiger is getting right now is correct.Foley has criticised the early 2000 Tiger swing that won the Tiger Slam. With this modified stack and tilt action he hasn't won 1 tournament. In an effort to improve be carefull not to break down what made you great in the first place.

[katbrookes]

essentially this is the same as the stack and tilt method...because its all about keeping the weight on the left side and shifting it even more left at impact

[sonicdeviant]

S&T concepts but he won't call it that due to the Scarlet Letters attached to the S&T gurus. Proof it works. It works for me.

[shahrom78]

I've tried this...ball contact was good....i feel better now....MAN,i love golf...:)

[slamdunk661]

@trapsmv9 yes you can. But just about every great player in history has coiled the weight to the right with the driver and with it there will be a subtle head movement to the right. Tiger did it when he played his best. During the Tiger slam he played better than any player in history, what he is doing now is dangerous cause there is no proof it works. I think his problem is he gets bored and likes change, just like his women!!

[slamdunk661]

I think Foley is working on some dangerous stuff with Tiger and the press are scared to say anything cause he is the new ' hot ' teacher on tour. The hang left, go further left swing is less effective with the longer clubs and Tigers problems have all been with the driver. You have load up on the right side with the driver. Lee Westwood will be delighted to see Tigers new stack and tilt swing.

[trapsmv9]

@slamdunk661 you can tilt right at setup for teed golf shots without loading on your right side.

[dschultz6072]

@slamdunk661 more like martin kaymer and graeme mcdowell will be delighted

[dschultz6072]

@slamdunk661 as a counterpoint, you've gotta understand that tiger can flat out play. it doesn't matter how he swings the club, simply because his mental game is unreal. his drive to win is unmatched by anyone on tour, so much that even if he doesn't touch the fairway, he'll still find a way to get the 1st place finish. i think his appetite for coached swing perfection is folly, because his search for a swing he can "own" will never be found by a coach. were hogan or moe taught their swing?

[robbinzo]

Most of the best players talk about staying centred over the ball.

However when you watch footage of Hogan or Nicklaus there is a small movement of the head to the right. As long as the body coils properly, this is fine.

You COIL against a solid right side! The golf swing is not just a turn but a COILING MOTION.

Nicklaus had his right heel up off the ground at the top of his backswing. How could he be centred? His weight had to have been on his right side!

See Wayne deFrancesco's analysis

[Tigersmundo]

Classic S&T How to hit a punch shot short of target....go figure nice repacked stuff

[martinkp76]

ben hogan calls this a "lateral move" which he did at the TOP of his back swing, hence his irons were called apex

[slamdunk661]

I teach for a living and maybe 1 player in 30 will move off the ball like that. Listen to these guys that preach S and T and you would believe everyone does it. It's just an excuse to get you hanging over your left side going back. You can't teach every golfer the same way, the best teachers coach the player not the method.

[steckleinjr]

@slamdunk661 great point. maybe robbinzo should read this post.  nice to have an opinion from a professional.

[onkai]

i like that, his method works

[MrTanker10a]

@onkai I agree!

[haarmd]

This is less of a lateral shift than classic teaching. it's just easier and more repeatable for most people. Just be careful to keep your head behind the ball at contact. Otherwise you won't have a good release

[MaqAttaq1]

Watch old Ben Hogan videos and its the same swing - especially the swing after his car accident.

[rokilama]

Why would you want you use one-legged swing as a benchmark? We have two legs and the most efficient golf swing is executed with both, not by excluding the other one. Right leg is the one that generates power, so why would you want to put most of your weight on the one that doesn't generate any power to the swing? This is the point I don't get. Usually, any oneof these new "hypes" will by time melt into something, which is closer to the mainstream, perhaps contributing something, perhaps not.

[steckleinjr]

@rokilama right legg generates power? says who? your left legg is thee anchor that deploys the release. see shawn clement's one legged swing. better explained than foley's!

[rokilama]

@steckleinjr Well, I guess you have studying to do, starting from biomechanics and pretty much all the other golf teaching there is. Ever heard of hips as a power source? You can release your wrists all you want, but if your hips don't have the support against which to uncoil, you're leaking power. Why do you think Tiger (or used to) lifts his right heel when swinging hard? Simple physics. Try to turn your hips fast first standing on left foot, then using your right leg as a support.

[steckleinjr]

@rokilama yes of course i have studying to do--life for most of us is a continuing ed class, (unlike guys like you who know everything!) actually working towards a biomechanics certification right now. im a big proponent of hips as power source (i,e bubba watson). you're losing your own argument and validating mine. i can hit the ball as far on one leg (left only) as i can using two. weight transfer is not a thought, and although weight goes to the right--it's only there briefly.

[kumatown]

i'm right handed, and my left foot spins out on my downswing/follow through. any drills to stop that? what causes that?

[haarmd]

@kumatown

You lack some internal rotation of your left hip. Maybe early arthritis. Try fanning it out 25-35 degrees at address. You're going to have to

[sirhelpme]

@kumatown well first if you dont have golf shoes you should get them that helps also try to put pressure on your left for during practice swings

[jhogolferboy]

No teaching in golf is new. The game is too old to have any new theories. Most of what he said can be witnessed by watching Hogan or Snead or many of the great ball strikers. He never says he developed this teaching, he just tries to repackage it in an understandable way to fellow golfers. Staying connected while rotating around your center allows for very consistent contact. Turn back, turn through and a well struck golf shot is the result.

[steckleinjr]

@jhogolferboy no teaching is new? really, really? continue being the sheep who drinks the coolaid!

[muddywater661]

@jhogolferboy Very true! Sam Snead even said that you could hit balls off of one foot. Snead just said that he felt he could put more power into his shots from the right foot and then turning.

[kshoren05]

No wonder Tiger is listening to this dude. Nice vid!

[kankrah15]

None of these guys is original. They are just repackaging knowledge that has already been dispensed by the old masters and calling it their own. Read the legend Tommy Armour's book. He tells you that your weight at address starts on the front foot and remains there throughout the swing. He says that there is no deliberate weight shift per se. The wisdom of the ancients is out there. All that you have to do is crack a book. Don't let these convnce you that they created the sun and moon.

[steckleinjr]

@kankrah15 show me where "they" claimed "they" created the sun and the moon? foley said in a recent interview with golf channel that he steals a little from everyone. and sean foley is quite original. great teaching comes down to great communication. there's thousands of pga pros who know the golf swing, but a select few who can explain it!

[strataone]

@steckleinjr

You hit the nail on the head man!!!

SnT guys are good for the mechanical players. This guy is good for the feel players

[steckleinjr]

@kankrah15 you want to check out somebody original? see shawn clement's golf pro lessons on youtube. or just continue being a sheep. also if you're going to speak for nick faldo, please cite him. people like you (with all due respect) crack me up. you are close minded and blind

[nuckster94]

It works, scores are dropping. Great video

[CarolinasPGApro]

Whether or not it's S&T is irrelevant....nobody's going to dispute the fact that your weight should be forward at contact.

A good teacher will take what you NATURALLY do with a golf club and build on it....not make you do a complete 180 to produce what he/she perceives as ideal. There's no such thing as perfect. Each tour player swings the way he does because that's how HIS body applies momentum and leverage the best. Figure out what YOUR method should be, don't waste time copying others.

[steckleinjr]

goodstuff noallegiance!

[GeorgeCostGolf]

Wow Stuck and Tilt and Steep is what they should call it.

[mzmgolf]

Are you kidding me??? This is all Mike Bennett and Andy Plummer. Look at their book and any Stack and Tilt literature.

[strataone]

@mzmgolf

They took it from Mac O'Grady so I would look there first.

[steckleinjr]

@strataone and whom did mac o'grady take it from, chief?

[flowerdrop1]

stack and tilt sucks

[Noallegiance18]

"I've found a way.............."???? No you haven't. You're regurgetating a way. Like all other golf coaches. Not many golf coaches can or should take credit for swing methodology. This is an old idea. And you been beaten to the modern sales punch by the expert thievery of Bennett and Plummer. Still not better than MORAD though.

[robbinzo]

This may be a good move for a good golfer but for higher handicappers this will result in an ugly reverse pivot and more problems.

Hogan and Faldo both talked about using the right leg to wind up against.

The weight should move in to the right side, but the right leg should not move laterally. A small head shift is OK as long as the right leg is rock solid. This will result in a powerful coiling motion.

[steckleinjr]

@robbinzo 'the weight should move to the right side" says who? says you? golfers should do what's best for them to build a repeatable swing. what about guys like me who formerly shattered their right femur and have had extensive hip surgery? people who believe in absolutes know very little about the golf swing!

[robbinzo]

@steckleinjr

This is not my opinion. I'm paraphrasing Ben Hogan and Faldo.

Ultimately we all need to build our own swing, which is why Sean Foley can't stand there and tell us how to swing a club without seeing our individual golf swings either.

Sorry to hear about your problems but your broken arm doesn't mean that Sean Foley is correct. He'll be dumped by Woods as soon as his BS is exposed.

All the best ball strikers load in to the ground and coil against a solid right leg. Period.

[gmbtempe]

weight starts left, stays left, and moves farther left.........seriously thats not Foley thats Andy Plummer.

[strataone]

@gmbtempe

Ten years ago SnT didnt even exist. How is that Plummer. You mean Mac O'Grady

[strataone]

Not stack and tilt. Hes not tilting toward the target.

[m4ttdj4]

@strataone Yes he is, inorder to rotate and stay over the ball his spine has to tilt left. Not just stack and tilters tilt left.

[strataone]

@m4ttdj4

I've always stayed center and I don't feel like I'm tilting left. Jack Nicklaus who always stayed center never once mentions it in his book nor have I ever heard him tell that in any instructional piece.

[m4ttdj4]

@strataone You may not know or feel it, try rotating your shoulders, it is impossible to do so and stay centered, with out the spine tilting left and extending. Foley teaches this piece as we'll. Nicklaus learnd to keep his head stil from having his head held still, His body learned the movements with out explaination. Now that we have the technology the movements of the spine have been measured to tilt left and straighten.

[strataone]

I had a lesson from my local teaching pro about ten years ago that told me to "start left, stay left and end up further left" with my irons.

[dsizemore81]

It's not really a hybrid of stack and tilt. It's pretty much exactly what stack and tilt teaches. The one legged drill is something I've seen a few teachers demonstrate and it really isn't a stack and tilt drill only but a good drill nonetheless.

[wkendhacker]

no way is this s&t. clemshaw (aka shawn clement) also has a drill where you practice with only the left foot and I know for a fact shawn's not a s&t guy.

[steckleinjr]

@wkendhacker yep, you're exactly right! clement is a hell of an instructor, but people just don't want to stray from the hogan bible. most people do not have hogan's physical attributes

[BirdieBlues]

Is this a hybrid of traditional and S&T teaching?

[ralphsunnyside]

@BirdieBlues Not really sure, I'm not that well versed in SnT to make a competent assessment.

[danee6281]

@BirdieBlues its just a stacked type thing but its basically the same as a coach telling you to stay over the ball in your swing. Basically all coaches these days teach this and a large majority of players on tour do this

[KCGOLFER2010]

@BirdieBlues he uses parts of it but not all of it. but you can see sean talk to plummer and bennett at any tournament on the range.

[MrTanker10a]

@BirdieBlues It does not matter whether or not it's a hybrid; This can be accomplished with an iron club just as well. The point of this drill is to remove the right leg so that you can force the body to stay in balance and to maintain your head still. It's a very cool drill. I have learned it from AJ Golf and Dave Leadbetter and Michael Breed (Golf Fix).

Try it, and you'll like it when you see your shots going straight down the range.

[sportsman214]

@BirdieBlues Yeah he believes that more of your weight should be on your front foot, when stack and tilt believes all your weight should remain over your left foot. He thinks the stack and tilt has somewhat accurate ideas but just doesnt really think all the weight should be there at address

[Asmodeus892]

@BirdieBlues To my understanding, the answer is: sort of. Foley takes a key element of S&T in keeping the weight forward throughout the swing to promote a one plane, consistent swing. But in S&T your spine angle actually tilts toward your target at the top. Foley is teaching a swing where your spine angle stays centered over the ball throughout the entire swing, creating a much more consistent ball strike than a swing which moves your center of gravity away from the ball.

[neil62hendrik]

@Asmodeus892 actually, S and T do NOT want the spine tilting towards the target, neither do any MORAD swings, before someone reminds us about Mac. again.......

[sportsman214]

@BirdieBlues yeah somewhat. He doesnt think all the weight to be stacked over the ball and he thinks there should be some change in weight. Foley thinks that the SnT method isnt complete shit but he doesnt agree with everything they say.

[scotte97]

@BirdieBlues - what foley teaches uses some of the principles of the stack and tilt however its not all the same. The stack and tilt has more weight on the left side throughout the swing, foley is about keeping the center over the ball