My Dad and I used to go to many airshows back in the 70's and early 80's. We both agree that the P-38 with its twin Allison engines were the smoothest and most pleasant engines to hear. I wonder what a British de Havilland Mosquito with twin Merlins sounded like? I wish I could have heard one.
Very nice!! At the Oshkosh flyin they often fly multiples of a type like this, for example multiple p51s escorting a B17. Appreciate posting the vid, and excellent idea posting one with real sound and one with music for all tastes, I prefer real sound, but certainly to each his own ;-)
Thank you so much for posting these videos. My grandfather who turns 93 next Sunday flew P 38s in WWII. In the past he has traveled to the P38 gatherings, but not able to anymore. I believe him to be one of the very few original pilots left. Thanks to you and others, I will be showing him all of these videos. Can't wait to watch his face as watches these beauties one more time in flight. Thank you again.....
@rugntile - Please tell your Grandfather that I thank him so much for his service to our country, defending our freedom's and our very lives. He's a great man!
The P-38 has always been my favorite WWII aircraft, ever since I was a kid... Its a shame there are so few that remain in flyable condition! I would absolutely LOVE to have the pleasure of seeing one flying in person!
I also remember reading in Air & Space about "Glacier Girl" and its recovery and restoration... Its an amazing story, and even more amazing that the thing was restored to air-worthy condition!!
Aren't there more then just 3 flying ones? I know Glacier Girl, Ruff Stuff, 23 Skidoo, there is another one at the museum in Oshkosh, WI. I am pretty sure that one flys aswell.
Today, there are 7 flyable P-38's, with 5 to 6 of them being flown.
6 in North America and 1 in Austria. I made this video back in 2007, at that time there were only 3. 5 of the 6 in North America were at Planes of Fame Air Museum a couple of weeks ago.
The amount of work and money put into these aircraft restorations usually brings them to factory new condition or better. Think of them as classic cars. Improvements and new technology provide better corrosion protection and better parts. Engine parts are restored to new condition and x-rayed for cracks. So these aren't necessarily "old" airplanes.
The plane has an amazing story, being buried 40m under a Greenlandic glacier from where it landed due to fuel shortage. I don't know what happened with the other wrecks that was dug out. Now restored to airworthiness.
The plane has an amazing story, being buried 40m under a Greenlandic glacier from where it landed due to fuel shortage. I don't know what happened with the other wrecks that was dug out. Now restored to airworthiness.
My Dad said that the best Christmas present he ever had was seeing a P-38 shoot down a Japanese Zero over the island of Morotai, on Christmas Eve of 1944!!
I was at Wings Over Wine Country airshow and all sorts of planes were making passes over the field. Every prop plane had a very loud rumble of engine sound. Except the P-38! When she made a pass, you could barely hear the engines; just a hum from those well-tuned Allisons. Beautiful!
@B17Boy The P 38's had turbochargers which tend to quieten down the engine noise as each exhaust pulse flows through a spinning turbo. The P 40 has an Allison but each cyclinder has an individual exhaust stack which tends to 'rumble'.
The P-38 known as "23 Skidoo" is owned and flown by the Planes of Fame Air Museum in Chino, Ca., She has been here for decades...no crash's...not even a close call. She flew last weekend at the Planes of Fame Air Museum monthly flying event. Check us out on-line.
Bf109 pilots learned to split-S into a dive to shed early types like "Glacier Girl" due to Lightning's infamous compressibility problem. That same tactic was a death sentence against the later dive-flap equipped P-38J-25. Compressibility wasn't a problem in the Pacific where combat took place at lower altitudes. Zero ailerons were useless in a dive; a Zero pilot diving from a P-38 was toast. Keeping speed up & avoiding low altitude turning contests were good rules for the P-38 driver.
Oh cool, I heard there were 8 in all, I know one of them crashed in an air show, but what happened to the other one to reduce the number of airworthy P-38s to 6?
I'm very proud of the fact that both my parents were part of the development of the P-38. In fact they met on the production line. My mother was in Quality Control, and my father was a Manufacturing Engineer. He designed the tooling & new techniques used to manufacture the hydraulic systems in the P-38. My dad retired in 1982 after 46 years with Lockheed.
@dLimboStick Sounds like your dad should get credit for the P-38's roll rate increase in late 1943 when Lockheed began equipping Lightnings with power-boosted ailerons. WIth hydraulic boost and handed props, the Lightning could roll as quickly in one direction as it could in the other.
Glacier Girl is alive and well. I just saw her 2 days ago (Saturday) at the Air Museum Planes of Fame. She is sitting in one of our hangers and is undergoing some preventative maintenance, but she is pretty and mean as ever. The P-38 lost at Duxford was not Glacie Girl and that crash occured in 1996. Any loss of a classic warbird is bad and becomes a real tragedy when a life is also lost.
man i wish i could have seen that....i was at the camirillo air show last weekend and saw 2 p-38's flying together and that was an amazing site to see....my great grandfather did photo recon with the p-38 so its one of my favorite planes..
In 2006 I drove over 900 miles to see Glacier Girl and Skidoo fly together. A surprising fact is P-38s are relatively quite with both engines revving. The exhaust piping is extensive, and although those current examples don't have their turbo super chargers in operation, the exhaust routing makes for a smooth and quite sounding airplane. In flight you can hear the wooshing aeronautic sounds like a glider careening. Make a point to visit this living museum. It's a bee-hive of activity. CHINO!
It is difficult to find neutral information on this fighter. German ace pilots like Adolph Galland do not keep it in high regard in his memoires Even pilots who have flown them describe them being lack of proper cockpit heaters and unreliable due to complex engines with turbos and intercoolers. Yet there were aces who flew them so how they used them against Germans for example?
konked - Every plane has its strengths and weaknesses. If you try to fly a P-38 the way you would a P-51 and vice versa, you'd get easily shot down. The secret of any of the great aces was they knew their aircraft and they flew them to their strengths and avoided their weaknesses. A P-38, flown properly, was a very deadly plane; superior speed and firepower can really be an overwhelming 1-2 punch over other aircraft. Even the P-47 had great aces, due to its massive firepower and ruggedness.
I know that against Zeros they used diveattacks & better climbing and altitude but against germans those advantages ought to have been lesser except for the speed in altitude. I have also read that P 47 could out turn Me 109 at altitude and was roughly equal to Fw 190 out diving them both. Now did P 38 have that kind of advantage e.g speed making the agility against it useless?
@konked, P38 was slightly superior in every way (even turn rate, surprisingly), except roll rate, which was very sluggish. Roll rate of the 109 was also somewhat poor, but only at high speeds and high altitude (otherwise it was decent). A Fw190. otoh, would always be able to disengage by rapidly rolling into the P38 and turn away. And an aware P38 pilot had the plane to keep himself away from any vulnerable position. Most kills, either way, would be from behind against a victim caught unaware.
@Vermiliontea Thank you all for your comments. The info is so controversial aces like Galland or Saburo Sakai don't appreciate it much. Galland states 38 having same weaknessses as Me 110 big vulnerable and no match to single-engine fighter. Ace for neutral decent book! ;P
Then again if an ace is writing it changes the wiew quite a lot I guess. I mean there's a reason being an ace using the advantages and enemy's disadvantages to score.
Yes, well you have to understand it right. I assumed you would. It's futile to dogfight with a P-38, due to its sluggish roll rate which makes it all sluggish. It's 'vulnerable' in the sense that it will stay in sights of a nimbler tracker. And reverse, it normally won't be able to track single engine fighters which flick direction.
But its flight performance was a world away from the Bf110. It would do just fine at keeping more energy and a better position.
Vermiliontea, I haven't found info for P 38 but perhaps they used the same maneuver against 109 as P 47 which due to its performance allowed pilot to let the 109 turn and using speed cut after it closing the distance to firing - bit like O ) where O is for 109 flying a counter clockwise circle. Japanese pilots in genreral were trained to fight man to man. Sakai noted that 38s could choose where and when to fight thanks to altitude and speed once pilots learned co-operation during the war
They used turbo-superchargers, which are located in the fuselage as you described. They were removed from P-38 White Lightin' (now Red Bull) and not all current flying P-38s use them today. They are either removed or are non-operational because it saves weight, are not needed at low altitudes flown today and it's one less expensive thing that needs to be maintained.
My dad was too young to enlist, when the war began and my great-uncle was too old... they worked on P38s in Burbank, until my dad enlisted in the Army Air Corps... my great-uncle was recommissioned, but stayed on the ground. I have a P38 manual of some kind... not much detail... almost like an owners manual for a car. My great uncle also gave me a wooden model of a P38 from the period... cool stuff.
Elthenar America may have provided hardware under lend lease,but I believe you owe all the thousands of commonwealth forces who died in the far east an apology.The allies fought on three fronts if you include North Africa,America fought initially in the Pacific because thats where it all started for you.After all that the p38 is testament to man's ingenuity,building then recovering and restoring Glacier Girl to her former glory.We should be happy there are veterans to see them from wherever.
I am not sure of your position. America fought in the Pacific, The Orient, the Phillipines, China, Africa and Europe. The courage and sacrifice of allied forces is not questioned by Elthenar as far as I can see. Allied forces fought along side of Americans in the Pacific and European Theaters. The courage of british pilots in the battle of Britain is the stuff of legends. Why would an apology be due for stating America turned the tide of the war? America and its allies stand or fall together.
HAH! i remember reading about the glacier girl. i don't remember where they found her, but she had crashed into the ice and was found some 50-100 feet down nearly perfectly preserved.
UTcommando - The P-39, "Glacier Girl", was crushed by tons and tons of ice pushing down on it. The plane needed to be completely rebuilt. I heard the cost was in the millions of dollars.
Any idea on the progress of the last flying actual REAL Aichi Val dive bomber ?
I here it was restored in Canada (70's)then brought to Calif and grounded. Im sorry but the Tora AT6 Texan hack versions just dont capture the true beauty of that orginal Aichi aircraft.
It is a true shame not more enemy aircraft were not preserved for future generations.
I saw it last weekend in the hanger. Planes of Fame owns an authentic Aichi D3A2 Val and is currently in the process of restoration to flight status. Once flying it will be the only flying authentic
Aichi D3A2 Val. Planes of Fame is also home to the only known example of the Mitsubishi J2M3 "Raiden" aircraft. A static display aircraft.
There are very few Merlins left but thousands of the 1710s that have been used in farming, boat racing, as generators and its proof is in it engineering and durability that no other WW2 engine can match.
Maybe it's durable my cross the pond chum, but the Rolls Royce Merlin, bred for the Schneider Races, saved our bacon in 1940. European countries were fighting for their lives & freedom while Americans were tucked up in bed, sipping their mug of cocoa.
I don't know what was being sipped but I do know Britain was holding the line for all of Europe. The Merlin was not being produced fast enough and thousands of Allison where used early in the war. The RAF needed a better alttitude engine so when the Merlin became more available it was used in P40's,P51's and of course the Spitfire. You just need to be aware of "while we were sipping tea" us Yanks kept the irons in the forge for the Brits to have something to fight with.
Well said Maytag. America was late to the war but she brought the heat when she got there. The defeat of Nazi Germany was truly a team effort between the rest of Europe, us and the Russians. But don't forget that while the war was raging in Europe, America was also neck deep in the Pacific. Europe fought one war, America fought two.
Amen! I guess it boils down to this, the Merlin was sexier , the Allison was alot stronger. The Merlin was pretty well developed and had a multi speed supercharger, the Allison didn't come into it's own until it was turbocharged- ala P38. The lineage factor is in the Merlins court though.
I love this. We all agree that it was teamwork. I hate in when people get into youtube comment debates about how "Britain did all the work" or "the US kicked more ass." I agree with you guys on this one. BTW P-38 is KICKASS
ThePhantomMajor - Americans weren't, "tucked up in bed sipping their mug of cocoa". Listening to you, it sounds like Americans had a royal party in WWII. No, American men enlisted in droves, leaving behind their families, sweethearts and wives, many of them paying the ultimate sacrifice and never returning to their homeland, dying in a foreign land, giving their lives for freedom for America and to keep England and all of Europe free. Americans that didn't actually fight in combat.....
ThePhantomMajor - ...fought by buying war bonds that were needed to produce weapons. Others worked long hours in factories manufacturing all manner of weapons that were needed to win against the evil dictators who started WWII. Thousands of Americans never made it back home and weren't even buried in their homeland, but in a foreign country. They left behind grieving mothers and fathers, forever crushed that their sons had died; broken hearted widows who had lost the love of their lives....
ThePhantomMajor ...forever, their heats bleeding in pain for all the remaining years of their lives. Brothers and sisters who never again played catch with their older brother, went fishing together, because their beloved older brother never returned home, instead dying in a foreign land fighting for freedom, for America, all of Europe and the world. Thousands and thousands of American Merchant Marine serviceman gave their lives, dying, caught inside ships sinking, having been torpedo'd by...
ThePhantomMajor...by an evil Nazi Germany submarine, sinking their ship, or they froze to death in the ice cold waters of the Atlantic if they didn't get sucked down with their sinking ships. All to bring your nation the guns and butter, weapons, food and clothing England needed to survive against the onslaught of Nazi Germany. These brave men may have even saved your life, because without their sacrifices, it is doubtful England could have survived Nazi Germany's onslaught. Please be a little..
ThePhantomMajor - ...cognizant of this and the great suffering that millions of people in America went through in order to help defeat the incredible evil that Nazi Germany represented and not just brush off that great suffering and sacrifice as being, "tucked up in bed, sipping their mug of cocoa". A little common decency and respect would go a long way. Thank you.
No, there aren't thousands of Allisons or thousands of Merlins left. You can blame the boat racers for destroying them by the hundreds from the 1960s to 1980s. Many more sat unused and were scrapped a long time ago.Today, the tractor pullers are a threat to any that are left since stressing the engines in that sport ruins them or blows them up .
Try re-reading the comment, it was in reference to 1946 at wars end and there was thousands of them left at that time, GM built 70,000 plus during the war and they are as of 2009 very rare.
Allison did not have to lobby to have the 1710 in P38's because they built over 70,000 of them and Merlin had production problems until 1943. The Merlin could not be beat at high altitude and the 1710 could not be beat at low altitude.
Agent jayz ..Some of your info is off, I worked 31 years for Allisons and then Rolls Royce. The difference in air temp affected the 1710 at high altitude but it was used for ground attack almost as much as escort that's why it had a cannon in the nose. The P-40 was a early 30"s aircraft and a old design, the engine is what made it as effective as it was with the Flying Tigers. We recieved several engines back with multiple 50 cal. direct engine strikes that did not bring the aircraft down.
Steve Hinton is the President of the Planes of Fame Air Museum, located in Chino, CA. Steve is also the President of Fighter Rebuilders Inc. I dont know of any place called airplane hall of fame and couldnt find it on the net either, so I dont know about that. Steve is the best warbird pilot in the world today, and I will fly in anything, anywhere, anytime, if Steve is at the controls. I have flown with Steve several times. Its always a hot ride.
I dont think so, but I'll have to ask Steve Hinton to be sure. By the way Steve told me last weekend there are now a total of 6 to 7 flying P-38's in the world. The number varies due to the flight status of one of the aircraft.
P-38's where mainly ground attack aircraft but did have turbo chargers for high alttitude dogfighting and flew with the best engine for that aircraft, the Allison V-12
I was at the air show in Middlesboro, KY in 2003 (i think that was the year). got to see Glacier Girl & Porky II fly side by side and nose to tail. they also had a corsair, P-40, hell cat, and others there. it was a wonderful experience. very courteous staff & audience. thanks to Bob Carden, Steve Hinton & everyone who keep these great birds in the air. RIP, Mr Schoffner...& thanks
Yes, it's Chino airport and the Planes of Fame museum facilities are located off Merrill road at the north side of the airport, east of Flo's restaurant and just west of the new hangers near the tower.
Fighter Rebuilders is Steve Hinton's company located at the museum where they custom rebuild fighter aircraft. Steve is the only pilot there. God I hope I am not flying with those guys after they eat at Eel Taco! Could make for some stinky flying! I have flown with about 6 of the pilots in 7 different warbird aircraft of the museum. I usually go to Flo's with the musuem owner and founder or others when I am there, but In and Out burger is another favorite of the crew at the musuem.
There are 4 that I know of, and possibly another one recently put back into the skies or soon will be. According to Planes of Fane Air Museum and Steve Hinton, owner of 23Skidoo and a main pilot of Glacier Girl,that's all of them that actually fly.
Had the wonderful experience to see Glacier Girl and Skidoo up close and personal on the ground as well as in the air at Gathering of Mustangs and Legends October 2007. Most fun you can have with your clothes on IMHO.
We all have our moments. Toxed out or not, it was a pretty good little poem, even if it was rather dis-respertful to the average American, and to our veterans buried in your Country. But thats one of the great things about your Country and mine....the Freedom of Speech. I think we can all agree on that.
I saw Glacier Girl at Oshkosh 2008, but didnt get to see her fly, pretty disapointed. Im a big WWII fanatic, love all the fighters, and of course the B-17, sounds incredible. very intimidating flying overhead
I am the other guy. I made both of the videos and they are the exact same thing, this version is just for people like you who dont want to hear that song or any music. But thanks for watching, even if you didnt notice they were the exact same video with a different sound track.
When I made this video, they were the last 3"flying" P-38 Lightnings in the world.
The owner of Glacier Girl, and the owner of 23skidoo, and one the most rated civilian warbird pilots in the world, and the owner of the largest and oldest privately held Air museum in North America, as well as some of the most aknowledged warbird experts in the world today said so, and that was good enough for me.
This was around 2000. We were all discussing who the first pilot of GG would be. At the time Lefty was first on the list with Steve being second. It's sad, but Lefty was beyond being able to fly by the time GG was ready to fly. Don't get me wrong. Steve is a great pilot and a great guy. But it would have been great for Lefty to have done it.
I was on Lefty Gardner's White Lightnin crew. He and I were at dinner one night with Roy Shoffner and Bob Cardin - the 2 guys responsible for bringing GG back to life.
I will ask Steve Hinton next month at the Planes of Fame Airshow. I know there are a couple of Lightnings with plans for flight status, but at last inquiry the 38's in this video are the only flying examples.
She nearly made it in 2007. From what I've read there are strong rumours for Bolero III with two Lightnings to cross the pond in 2008! Lets hope it's true!!!
My mate is a Sikorsky S-61 captain, and he flew the helicopter when Glacier Girl was being lifted out of the icecap i Greenland. I would love to see Glacier Girl at the UK airshow-circuit!
Information on Glacier Girl can be found at The Lost Squadron internet site. For some reason I can't put the exact address in here, but google the lost squadron and its the first site on the list.
I guess because I have been around aircraft all my life, I forget others may be more interested in the engine noise than I am. To that end, I usually produce both a music and original sound track version of videos I film.
If I suck up around Planes of Fame long enough, maybe Steve will bust out and take me up in 23 Skidoo. I've only been with POF for 13 years, so I guess I'll keep cooking at Valle and walking the flight line at Chino for a few more years. I would fly in a bathtub with an ironing board strapped to it if Steve was the pilot!
Awesome planes and nice video.
msp1865 2 months ago
My Dad and I used to go to many airshows back in the 70's and early 80's. We both agree that the P-38 with its twin Allison engines were the smoothest and most pleasant engines to hear. I wonder what a British de Havilland Mosquito with twin Merlins sounded like? I wish I could have heard one.
f47lbx3 3 months ago
Very nice!! At the Oshkosh flyin they often fly multiples of a type like this, for example multiple p51s escorting a B17. Appreciate posting the vid, and excellent idea posting one with real sound and one with music for all tastes, I prefer real sound, but certainly to each his own ;-)
MrJdsenior 4 months ago
there are 11-or 12 that are airworthy 7 on static display and 5 under restoration. I have a list of registry numbers and locations if interested
dannyg19683 5 months ago
Thank you so much for posting these videos. My grandfather who turns 93 next Sunday flew P 38s in WWII. In the past he has traveled to the P38 gatherings, but not able to anymore. I believe him to be one of the very few original pilots left. Thanks to you and others, I will be showing him all of these videos. Can't wait to watch his face as watches these beauties one more time in flight. Thank you again.....
rugntile 9 months ago
@rugntile - Please tell your Grandfather that I thank him so much for his service to our country, defending our freedom's and our very lives. He's a great man!
JohnQuincyAdams1 4 months ago
Viva the fork tailed devil.
Tarten46 11 months ago
I built a model of this aircraft when I was a kid.
Audiomancer 1 year ago
this goes to show you dual supercharged allison engines kick ass!
iphone3gs2208 1 year ago
The P-38 has always been my favorite WWII aircraft, ever since I was a kid... Its a shame there are so few that remain in flyable condition! I would absolutely LOVE to have the pleasure of seeing one flying in person!
I also remember reading in Air & Space about "Glacier Girl" and its recovery and restoration... Its an amazing story, and even more amazing that the thing was restored to air-worthy condition!!
Mtrhd0024 1 year ago
Aren't there more then just 3 flying ones? I know Glacier Girl, Ruff Stuff, 23 Skidoo, there is another one at the museum in Oshkosh, WI. I am pretty sure that one flys aswell.
GrandCaravanSE 1 year ago
@GrandCaravanSE
Today, there are 7 flyable P-38's, with 5 to 6 of them being flown.
6 in North America and 1 in Austria. I made this video back in 2007, at that time there were only 3. 5 of the 6 in North America were at Planes of Fame Air Museum a couple of weeks ago.
TJDOZIER1 1 year ago
@TJDOZIER1
At the time there were 4 :)
You forgot the White Lightning which is now part of the Flying Bulls
WrUSasu 1 year ago
@WrUSasu You read my mind. I was about to say White Lightning is still kickin
NevadaWrangler 1 year ago
I got to see pieces of Glacier Girl at an airshow years ago while she was under going restoration shortly after being recovered.
yellowbusguy 1 year ago
The twins for the wins!
-- A-26, B-25, B-26, F7F, F-82, P-38, P-61, & de Havilland Mosquito --
NoLongerFooled 1 year ago
Seems like putting the old airframes thru acrobatics would stress the airframes too much
oldtilter 1 year ago
@oldtilter
The amount of work and money put into these aircraft restorations usually brings them to factory new condition or better. Think of them as classic cars. Improvements and new technology provide better corrosion protection and better parts. Engine parts are restored to new condition and x-rayed for cracks. So these aren't necessarily "old" airplanes.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
The plane has an amazing story, being buried 40m under a Greenlandic glacier from where it landed due to fuel shortage. I don't know what happened with the other wrecks that was dug out. Now restored to airworthiness.
hrc1966 1 year ago
The plane has an amazing story, being buried 40m under a Greenlandic glacier from where it landed due to fuel shortage. I don't know what happened with the other wrecks that was dug out. Now restored to airworthiness.
hrc1966 1 year ago
sexiest plane of all time
dergo4411 1 year ago
Better not start a movie with pictures. I almost clicked away cause I dont geive a shit for pics on you tube
Biobak 1 year ago
Very nidely done. I'd much rather watch and listen to the sounds of WW II aircraft than jets anyday! Thank you for posting this!
Colonialpara 1 year ago
Like the sound of the engines, no music! Thanks!!
My Dad said that the best Christmas present he ever had was seeing a P-38 shoot down a Japanese Zero over the island of Morotai, on Christmas Eve of 1944!!
Thanks again for this video!!
ATBirdMan 1 year ago 3
I was at Wings Over Wine Country airshow and all sorts of planes were making passes over the field. Every prop plane had a very loud rumble of engine sound. Except the P-38! When she made a pass, you could barely hear the engines; just a hum from those well-tuned Allisons. Beautiful!
B17Boy 1 year ago
@B17Boy The P 38's had turbochargers which tend to quieten down the engine noise as each exhaust pulse flows through a spinning turbo. The P 40 has an Allison but each cyclinder has an individual exhaust stack which tends to 'rumble'.
BJBFOREST 1 year ago
if im not wrong that first p-38 the skidog didn't it crash a few years ago?
riflelord2 1 year ago
@riflelord2
The P-38 known as "23 Skidoo" is owned and flown by the Planes of Fame Air Museum in Chino, Ca., She has been here for decades...no crash's...not even a close call. She flew last weekend at the Planes of Fame Air Museum monthly flying event. Check us out on-line.
TJDOZIER1 1 year ago
@riflelord2
The last recent P-38 crash was the horrible accident at Duxford with 'California Cutie' in 1996.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago
Bf109 pilots learned to split-S into a dive to shed early types like "Glacier Girl" due to Lightning's infamous compressibility problem. That same tactic was a death sentence against the later dive-flap equipped P-38J-25. Compressibility wasn't a problem in the Pacific where combat took place at lower altitudes. Zero ailerons were useless in a dive; a Zero pilot diving from a P-38 was toast. Keeping speed up & avoiding low altitude turning contests were good rules for the P-38 driver.
osdotf 1 year ago
Great sound, thanks for upload!
frankwollin 1 year ago
thanks for doing one with Engine Sounds.
awsome video
ABCC5279 2 years ago
ww2 vesion of the pod racer?? nice birds too cheers
wind2jammer 2 years ago
Are there only three of these P-38s or are there a few more?
KitCloudkicker52885 2 years ago
@KitCloudkicker52885
There are now 6 airworthy P-38's.
TJDOZIER1 2 years ago
Oh cool, I heard there were 8 in all, I know one of them crashed in an air show, but what happened to the other one to reduce the number of airworthy P-38s to 6?
KitCloudkicker52885 2 years ago
There could be 8 now. 6 was told to me a few months back at Planes of Fame.
TJDOZIER1 2 years ago
I have to say I prefer this version without the sound. It is nice that you have both versions though to satisfy all tastes.
taofledermaus 2 years ago
@taofledermaus
Thanks.
TJDOZIER1 2 years ago
Not heard that sound since the movie "A guy named Joe", which was made in the 1040's, with Spencer Tracy. Beautiful Allisons.
fbenenati 2 years ago
I'm very proud of the fact that both my parents were part of the development of the P-38. In fact they met on the production line. My mother was in Quality Control, and my father was a Manufacturing Engineer. He designed the tooling & new techniques used to manufacture the hydraulic systems in the P-38. My dad retired in 1982 after 46 years with Lockheed.
dLimboStick 2 years ago 9
@dLimboStick Sounds like your dad should get credit for the P-38's roll rate increase in late 1943 when Lockheed began equipping Lightnings with power-boosted ailerons. WIth hydraulic boost and handed props, the Lightning could roll as quickly in one direction as it could in the other.
osdotf 1 year ago
@dLimboStick I thank your family for serving :)
RSprtn117 1 year ago
you lucky b*** three lightings together in flight
skyhawk6204 2 years ago
i saw two at eea airventure
iamgodspeed100 2 years ago
the lighting that crashed at Duxford was green and third lighting shown in this vid is silver just type in p-38 crash
wyunbn 2 years ago
that is music! The hair on my neck stood right up! Thanks TJ...that was awsome.
sirgoogoomuck 2 years ago
Now that's MUSIC!!!!
gragrn 2 years ago
Poor Glacier Girl & RAF pilot Proundfoot. Destroyed at the Duxford show..as you know.
mbandarra3 2 years ago
Glacier Girl is alive and well. I just saw her 2 days ago (Saturday) at the Air Museum Planes of Fame. She is sitting in one of our hangers and is undergoing some preventative maintenance, but she is pretty and mean as ever. The P-38 lost at Duxford was not Glacie Girl and that crash occured in 1996. Any loss of a classic warbird is bad and becomes a real tragedy when a life is also lost.
Long live the Lightnings!
TJDOZIER1 2 years ago
Thanks for the correction. I'm pleased and that's good news. I saw the restored P38 crash @ Duxford & mistook it for Giacier Girl. Stay safe!
mbandarra3 2 years ago
Indeed. NEVER put music over warbird noises!!
Treetop64 2 years ago 19
thats more like it :D
gregersgram 2 years ago
Would love to hear the guns fire on these!
MoCatt 2 years ago
man i wish i could have seen that....i was at the camirillo air show last weekend and saw 2 p-38's flying together and that was an amazing site to see....my great grandfather did photo recon with the p-38 so its one of my favorite planes..
GreenBeret7259 2 years ago
Great Thanks, brings back memories
xgi36 2 years ago
In 2006 I drove over 900 miles to see Glacier Girl and Skidoo fly together. A surprising fact is P-38s are relatively quite with both engines revving. The exhaust piping is extensive, and although those current examples don't have their turbo super chargers in operation, the exhaust routing makes for a smooth and quite sounding airplane. In flight you can hear the wooshing aeronautic sounds like a glider careening. Make a point to visit this living museum. It's a bee-hive of activity. CHINO!
trexx63 2 years ago
Thanks, we'll leave a light on for you.
TJDOZIER1 2 years ago
i would have given any thing to see these plane fly toghther
Aircraftfreak155 2 years ago
It was a truly rare sight indeed.
TJDOZIER1 2 years ago
It is difficult to find neutral information on this fighter. German ace pilots like Adolph Galland do not keep it in high regard in his memoires Even pilots who have flown them describe them being lack of proper cockpit heaters and unreliable due to complex engines with turbos and intercoolers. Yet there were aces who flew them so how they used them against Germans for example?
konked 2 years ago
konked - Every plane has its strengths and weaknesses. If you try to fly a P-38 the way you would a P-51 and vice versa, you'd get easily shot down. The secret of any of the great aces was they knew their aircraft and they flew them to their strengths and avoided their weaknesses. A P-38, flown properly, was a very deadly plane; superior speed and firepower can really be an overwhelming 1-2 punch over other aircraft. Even the P-47 had great aces, due to its massive firepower and ruggedness.
JohnQuincyAdams1 2 years ago
I know that against Zeros they used diveattacks & better climbing and altitude but against germans those advantages ought to have been lesser except for the speed in altitude. I have also read that P 47 could out turn Me 109 at altitude and was roughly equal to Fw 190 out diving them both. Now did P 38 have that kind of advantage e.g speed making the agility against it useless?
konked 2 years ago
@konked
P47 made best power @30000ft because it was turbocharged. At that altitude it could best all the German fighters.
Diving and zoom climbing it tore them up.
jwester2aolcom 2 years ago
@konked, P38 was slightly superior in every way (even turn rate, surprisingly), except roll rate, which was very sluggish. Roll rate of the 109 was also somewhat poor, but only at high speeds and high altitude (otherwise it was decent). A Fw190. otoh, would always be able to disengage by rapidly rolling into the P38 and turn away. And an aware P38 pilot had the plane to keep himself away from any vulnerable position. Most kills, either way, would be from behind against a victim caught unaware.
Vermiliontea 1 year ago
@Vermiliontea Thank you all for your comments. The info is so controversial aces like Galland or Saburo Sakai don't appreciate it much. Galland states 38 having same weaknessses as Me 110 big vulnerable and no match to single-engine fighter. Ace for neutral decent book! ;P
Then again if an ace is writing it changes the wiew quite a lot I guess. I mean there's a reason being an ace using the advantages and enemy's disadvantages to score.
konked 1 year ago
Yes, well you have to understand it right. I assumed you would. It's futile to dogfight with a P-38, due to its sluggish roll rate which makes it all sluggish. It's 'vulnerable' in the sense that it will stay in sights of a nimbler tracker. And reverse, it normally won't be able to track single engine fighters which flick direction.
But its flight performance was a world away from the Bf110. It would do just fine at keeping more energy and a better position.
Please note british P38s were crap.
Vermiliontea 1 year ago
Continued: British Lightnings were crap because they lacked turbosuperchargers and had both engines turning the same way.
Roll was the proper defensive maneuver against P-38. Stay in the same turn and try to outturn the P-38 would be a mistake.
A Bf109 fleeing at speed from hi altitude was very sluggish in roll, and thus vulnerable to the P-38.
Sakai's understanding of air combat was primitive and restricted to aerobatics. The P-38 lives by it's flight envelope and energy retention.
Vermiliontea 1 year ago
Vermiliontea, I haven't found info for P 38 but perhaps they used the same maneuver against 109 as P 47 which due to its performance allowed pilot to let the 109 turn and using speed cut after it closing the distance to firing - bit like O ) where O is for 109 flying a counter clockwise circle. Japanese pilots in genreral were trained to fight man to man. Sakai noted that 38s could choose where and when to fight thanks to altitude and speed once pilots learned co-operation during the war
konked 1 year ago
my fav fighter from ww2
phonix032 2 years ago
did the p-38 use an exhaust driven super charger? is that the old looking round exhausts on the fuses
saturday27 2 years ago
They used turbo-superchargers, which are located in the fuselage as you described. They were removed from P-38 White Lightin' (now Red Bull) and not all current flying P-38s use them today. They are either removed or are non-operational because it saves weight, are not needed at low altitudes flown today and it's one less expensive thing that needs to be maintained.
FiveCentsPlease 2 years ago
My dad was too young to enlist, when the war began and my great-uncle was too old... they worked on P38s in Burbank, until my dad enlisted in the Army Air Corps... my great-uncle was recommissioned, but stayed on the ground. I have a P38 manual of some kind... not much detail... almost like an owners manual for a car. My great uncle also gave me a wooden model of a P38 from the period... cool stuff.
pietyhill 2 years ago
Elthenar America may have provided hardware under lend lease,but I believe you owe all the thousands of commonwealth forces who died in the far east an apology.The allies fought on three fronts if you include North Africa,America fought initially in the Pacific because thats where it all started for you.After all that the p38 is testament to man's ingenuity,building then recovering and restoring Glacier Girl to her former glory.We should be happy there are veterans to see them from wherever.
jimmcglynn1 2 years ago
I am not sure of your position. America fought in the Pacific, The Orient, the Phillipines, China, Africa and Europe. The courage and sacrifice of allied forces is not questioned by Elthenar as far as I can see. Allied forces fought along side of Americans in the Pacific and European Theaters. The courage of british pilots in the battle of Britain is the stuff of legends. Why would an apology be due for stating America turned the tide of the war? America and its allies stand or fall together.
TJDOZIER1 2 years ago
Don't forget we also fought in Alaska.
Ubergynormousmullet 2 years ago
HAH! i remember reading about the glacier girl. i don't remember where they found her, but she had crashed into the ice and was found some 50-100 feet down nearly perfectly preserved.
UTcommando 2 years ago
UTcommando - The P-39, "Glacier Girl", was crushed by tons and tons of ice pushing down on it. The plane needed to be completely rebuilt. I heard the cost was in the millions of dollars.
JohnQuincyAdams1 2 years ago
What a classic beauty
chamath1985 2 years ago
i dont know about beauty, but it is classy.
tartredarrow 2 years ago
She's beautiful...
Wildcat222 2 years ago
Any idea on the progress of the last flying actual REAL Aichi Val dive bomber ?
I here it was restored in Canada (70's)then brought to Calif and grounded. Im sorry but the Tora AT6 Texan hack versions just dont capture the true beauty of that orginal Aichi aircraft.
It is a true shame not more enemy aircraft were not preserved for future generations.
apatheticempathy 3 years ago 4
It is still listed as being with Planes of Fame in CA. Another Val wreck is with the Nimitz Museum in TX.
FiveCentsPlease 2 years ago
I saw it last weekend in the hanger. Planes of Fame owns an authentic Aichi D3A2 Val and is currently in the process of restoration to flight status. Once flying it will be the only flying authentic
Aichi D3A2 Val. Planes of Fame is also home to the only known example of the Mitsubishi J2M3 "Raiden" aircraft. A static display aircraft.
TJDOZIER1 2 years ago
There are very few Merlins left but thousands of the 1710s that have been used in farming, boat racing, as generators and its proof is in it engineering and durability that no other WW2 engine can match.
maytag40 3 years ago
yes indeed that is true my friend. the merlin was still a fantastic engine tho, it made the p51d mustang... but what you said was correct
The2ndAmendmentGuy 2 years ago
Maybe it's durable my cross the pond chum, but the Rolls Royce Merlin, bred for the Schneider Races, saved our bacon in 1940. European countries were fighting for their lives & freedom while Americans were tucked up in bed, sipping their mug of cocoa.
ThePhantomMajor 2 years ago
I don't know what was being sipped but I do know Britain was holding the line for all of Europe. The Merlin was not being produced fast enough and thousands of Allison where used early in the war. The RAF needed a better alttitude engine so when the Merlin became more available it was used in P40's,P51's and of course the Spitfire. You just need to be aware of "while we were sipping tea" us Yanks kept the irons in the forge for the Brits to have something to fight with.
maytag40 2 years ago
Well said Maytag. America was late to the war but she brought the heat when she got there. The defeat of Nazi Germany was truly a team effort between the rest of Europe, us and the Russians. But don't forget that while the war was raging in Europe, America was also neck deep in the Pacific. Europe fought one war, America fought two.
Elthenar 2 years ago
Amen! I guess it boils down to this, the Merlin was sexier , the Allison was alot stronger. The Merlin was pretty well developed and had a multi speed supercharger, the Allison didn't come into it's own until it was turbocharged- ala P38. The lineage factor is in the Merlins court though.
klesmer 2 years ago
I love this. We all agree that it was teamwork. I hate in when people get into youtube comment debates about how "Britain did all the work" or "the US kicked more ass." I agree with you guys on this one. BTW P-38 is KICKASS
keckman5 2 years ago
i have to say though i prefer the mustang or spitfire.. they have a much nicer sound.. but p38 is one to be treasured
robbie5380 2 years ago
My favorite is the P-51D but I love 'em all
keckman5 2 years ago
ThePhantomMajor - Americans weren't, "tucked up in bed sipping their mug of cocoa". Listening to you, it sounds like Americans had a royal party in WWII. No, American men enlisted in droves, leaving behind their families, sweethearts and wives, many of them paying the ultimate sacrifice and never returning to their homeland, dying in a foreign land, giving their lives for freedom for America and to keep England and all of Europe free. Americans that didn't actually fight in combat.....
JohnQuincyAdams1 2 years ago
ThePhantomMajor - ...fought by buying war bonds that were needed to produce weapons. Others worked long hours in factories manufacturing all manner of weapons that were needed to win against the evil dictators who started WWII. Thousands of Americans never made it back home and weren't even buried in their homeland, but in a foreign country. They left behind grieving mothers and fathers, forever crushed that their sons had died; broken hearted widows who had lost the love of their lives....
JohnQuincyAdams1 2 years ago
ThePhantomMajor ...forever, their heats bleeding in pain for all the remaining years of their lives. Brothers and sisters who never again played catch with their older brother, went fishing together, because their beloved older brother never returned home, instead dying in a foreign land fighting for freedom, for America, all of Europe and the world. Thousands and thousands of American Merchant Marine serviceman gave their lives, dying, caught inside ships sinking, having been torpedo'd by...
JohnQuincyAdams1 2 years ago
ThePhantomMajor...by an evil Nazi Germany submarine, sinking their ship, or they froze to death in the ice cold waters of the Atlantic if they didn't get sucked down with their sinking ships. All to bring your nation the guns and butter, weapons, food and clothing England needed to survive against the onslaught of Nazi Germany. These brave men may have even saved your life, because without their sacrifices, it is doubtful England could have survived Nazi Germany's onslaught. Please be a little..
JohnQuincyAdams1 2 years ago
ThePhantomMajor - ...cognizant of this and the great suffering that millions of people in America went through in order to help defeat the incredible evil that Nazi Germany represented and not just brush off that great suffering and sacrifice as being, "tucked up in bed, sipping their mug of cocoa". A little common decency and respect would go a long way. Thank you.
JohnQuincyAdams1 2 years ago
The other video with the song, "Proud to Be An American", is much better. :)
JohnQuincyAdams1 2 years ago
No, there aren't thousands of Allisons or thousands of Merlins left. You can blame the boat racers for destroying them by the hundreds from the 1960s to 1980s. Many more sat unused and were scrapped a long time ago.Today, the tractor pullers are a threat to any that are left since stressing the engines in that sport ruins them or blows them up .
FiveCentsPlease 2 years ago
Try re-reading the comment, it was in reference to 1946 at wars end and there was thousands of them left at that time, GM built 70,000 plus during the war and they are as of 2009 very rare.
maytag40 2 years ago
Allison did not have to lobby to have the 1710 in P38's because they built over 70,000 of them and Merlin had production problems until 1943. The Merlin could not be beat at high altitude and the 1710 could not be beat at low altitude.
maytag40 3 years ago
Agent jayz ..Some of your info is off, I worked 31 years for Allisons and then Rolls Royce. The difference in air temp affected the 1710 at high altitude but it was used for ground attack almost as much as escort that's why it had a cannon in the nose. The P-40 was a early 30"s aircraft and a old design, the engine is what made it as effective as it was with the Flying Tigers. We recieved several engines back with multiple 50 cal. direct engine strikes that did not bring the aircraft down.
maytag40 3 years ago
Awesome Plane, its my Fav WWII plane, it just looks kewl
CMDRFandragon 3 years ago
Beautiful plane!
mapler223 3 years ago
thx man 4 answering that.
nickkid11 3 years ago
isn't Steve hilton the president of the airplane hall of fame tj? i'm dying to know
nickkid11 3 years ago
Steve Hinton is the President of the Planes of Fame Air Museum, located in Chino, CA. Steve is also the President of Fighter Rebuilders Inc. I dont know of any place called airplane hall of fame and couldnt find it on the net either, so I dont know about that. Steve is the best warbird pilot in the world today, and I will fly in anything, anywhere, anytime, if Steve is at the controls. I have flown with Steve several times. Its always a hot ride.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
my mom took me to the airshow that had those lightnings pretty cool
nickkid11 3 years ago
Did they ever put Merlins on those?
Kamak86 3 years ago
I dont think so, but I'll have to ask Steve Hinton to be sure. By the way Steve told me last weekend there are now a total of 6 to 7 flying P-38's in the world. The number varies due to the flight status of one of the aircraft.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
P-38's where mainly ground attack aircraft but did have turbo chargers for high alttitude dogfighting and flew with the best engine for that aircraft, the Allison V-12
maytag40 3 years ago
The P-38 was designed, and did its best work, as an air-to-air fighter.
It would have kicked ass in ground attack mode, but it was a fighter.
The V-1710 did deliver as promised in the P-38 because it was equipped with the turbochargers it was designed for.
The P-40 Warhawk was hamstrung by the fact it was equipped with the V-1710, but without the turbo, because they were in short supply.
There was a proposal to put Merlins in P-38s, but Allison succesfully lobbied against that.
AgentJayZ 3 years ago
The Allison V-1710 was an excellent engine, and so was the RR Merlin 1650.
The Merlin did eventually make more power, but it was turbosupercharged to a higher manifold pressure.
The Merlin operated at a higher boost.
Make what you want of that.
AgentJayZ 3 years ago
It was proposed, but never done.
dogsbd 3 years ago
I was at the air show in Middlesboro, KY in 2003 (i think that was the year). got to see Glacier Girl & Porky II fly side by side and nose to tail. they also had a corsair, P-40, hell cat, and others there. it was a wonderful experience. very courteous staff & audience. thanks to Bob Carden, Steve Hinton & everyone who keep these great birds in the air. RIP, Mr Schoffner...& thanks
BLZeeBubb 3 years ago
Those turbo's really quiet down those Allison's.
beetleborg72 3 years ago
thats my all time favorite plane!!
GrandPrixGTP02 3 years ago
Do you have any videos of the F-22 engine sounds?
UNSClead1 3 years ago
I'll have to look around here and see what I have, if I find some I'll post it on youtube and let you know.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
is that the chino airport? i live like 2 blocks away from there. my brother in law works for one of the companies that has a hangar there.
disturbedone5009 3 years ago
Yes, it's Chino airport and the Planes of Fame museum facilities are located off Merrill road at the north side of the airport, east of Flo's restaurant and just west of the new hangers near the tower.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
yeah i go there all the time. we always see the guys that work there at del taco on euclid by the 60.
disturbedone5009 3 years ago
Sounds like the guys from Fighter Rebuilders.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
yeah and some of the pilots that fly for the airshows and stuff.
disturbedone5009 3 years ago
Fighter Rebuilders is Steve Hinton's company located at the museum where they custom rebuild fighter aircraft. Steve is the only pilot there. God I hope I am not flying with those guys after they eat at Eel Taco! Could make for some stinky flying! I have flown with about 6 of the pilots in 7 different warbird aircraft of the museum. I usually go to Flo's with the musuem owner and founder or others when I am there, but In and Out burger is another favorite of the crew at the musuem.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
yeah i see steve there all the time. do you work at the museum?
disturbedone5009 3 years ago
I am a member and a volunteer at the museum.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
thats cool. i used to go volunteer at the museum on saturdays. it was a lot of fun.
disturbedone5009 3 years ago
about 200 worldwide are still up in runnun
trainsrock122 3 years ago
No, there are definitely fewer than six P-38s flying.
KingCrumbdenfroft 3 years ago
I think you are talking about P-51 numbers, being around 200 survivors left with around 100 or so of those still flyable.
FiveCentsPlease 2 years ago
How many P38 still fly today? More than 3? I hope more can be restored and flown.
osgood54 3 years ago
There are 4 that I know of, and possibly another one recently put back into the skies or soon will be. According to Planes of Fane Air Museum and Steve Hinton, owner of 23Skidoo and a main pilot of Glacier Girl,that's all of them that actually fly.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
I saw Glacier Girls first flight since being restored. Is she still flying or going to be retired. Thought the owner had died. Quite a site.
osgood54 3 years ago
I saw her flying earlier this year.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
Had the wonderful experience to see Glacier Girl and Skidoo up close and personal on the ground as well as in the air at Gathering of Mustangs and Legends October 2007. Most fun you can have with your clothes on IMHO.
Thanks for sharing this
SpotterOz 3 years ago
thanks....much better with engine sounds.
I take everything back I said on the other page. I just got toxed out for a second.
dave.
bunjit1 3 years ago
We all have our moments. Toxed out or not, it was a pretty good little poem, even if it was rather dis-respertful to the average American, and to our veterans buried in your Country. But thats one of the great things about your Country and mine....the Freedom of Speech. I think we can all agree on that.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
Much better than your other video whit the music.
Petrolhead1984 3 years ago
I saw Glacier Girl at Oshkosh 2008, but didnt get to see her fly, pretty disapointed. Im a big WWII fanatic, love all the fighters, and of course the B-17, sounds incredible. very intimidating flying overhead
MasterChief391 3 years ago
OK, this is really good.
The sound is as much a part of the experience as the sight, at least for me.
blandoon 3 years ago
theres just something about 6 supercharged Allison engines blasting over head
78F1504x4 3 years ago
well any way good job !!!!
terminator363 3 years ago
Thanks.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
ahh this is sooooo much better then that other guys video with the anoying msic!!!!!!!!
4 out of 5 ! :D
terminator363 3 years ago
I am the other guy. I made both of the videos and they are the exact same thing, this version is just for people like you who dont want to hear that song or any music. But thanks for watching, even if you didnt notice they were the exact same video with a different sound track.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
LOL he is really observant eh?
BikerTrashWolf 3 years ago
I didnt notice my hair was, well apparently it moved to another town without me, anyway I didnt notice until bam, I'm chromedome.
So we all have our moments.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
terminator363 - Well seeing as you are a Canadian, you probably wouldn't be able to understand American patriotic music very well I guess.
Echeque5 2 years ago
They had one of these flying at Lancaster Airport (PA) with a warthog, and it was amazing how quiet the Lightening was.
writerjmd 3 years ago
Next to the whining turbines of the warthog, its a wonder you could hear it at all.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
...and who said theyre the 'last lightenings'...theyre not really. Good video though, thanks.
urrachunt 3 years ago
When I made this video, they were the last 3"flying" P-38 Lightnings in the world.
The owner of Glacier Girl, and the owner of 23skidoo, and one the most rated civilian warbird pilots in the world, and the owner of the largest and oldest privately held Air museum in North America, as well as some of the most aknowledged warbird experts in the world today said so, and that was good enough for me.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
My dad worked on the assembly line for the P-38, and to see them flying, knowing that he worked on them, is such a treat.
JProthero 3 years ago 3
so much better to hear the engine rather than music
Predator887 3 years ago
Sweet, sweet, sweet!!!!
Bobbyo60 3 years ago
The planes make their own sweet music. That was a concert to me, Thanks !
MissileMist 3 years ago
This was around 2000. We were all discussing who the first pilot of GG would be. At the time Lefty was first on the list with Steve being second. It's sad, but Lefty was beyond being able to fly by the time GG was ready to fly. Don't get me wrong. Steve is a great pilot and a great guy. But it would have been great for Lefty to have done it.
fly524 3 years ago
I was on Lefty Gardner's White Lightnin crew. He and I were at dinner one night with Roy Shoffner and Bob Cardin - the 2 guys responsible for bringing GG back to life.
fly524 3 years ago
anyone know if the tangerine over at TNAS is airworthy? or is it static?
xfig85 3 years ago
I will ask Steve Hinton next month at the Planes of Fame Airshow. I know there are a couple of Lightnings with plans for flight status, but at last inquiry the 38's in this video are the only flying examples.
TJDOZIER1 3 years ago
anyone know if the tangerine over at TNAS is airworthy? or is it static?
xfig85 3 years ago
they should make copys of those they are soo fucking awsome
Persojet 3 years ago 5
there used to be a company in Flordia that was going to make flyable 3/4 scale P-38s. Haven't heard much, probably came to nothing
proffromgview 3 years ago
Always a wonderful sound and a sight most welcome too. It's good to see them flying. Thanks!
whizbang47 3 years ago
Now that's more like it! No music just the sound of the airplane. Thank You.
megashegem 3 years ago
She nearly made it in 2007. From what I've read there are strong rumours for Bolero III with two Lightnings to cross the pond in 2008! Lets hope it's true!!!
thevegetarian 3 years ago
My mate is a Sikorsky S-61 captain, and he flew the helicopter when Glacier Girl was being lifted out of the icecap i Greenland. I would love to see Glacier Girl at the UK airshow-circuit!
PWHRJ100 4 years ago
Information on Glacier Girl can be found at The Lost Squadron internet site. For some reason I can't put the exact address in here, but google the lost squadron and its the first site on the list.
TJDOZIER1 4 years ago
I guess because I have been around aircraft all my life, I forget others may be more interested in the engine noise than I am. To that end, I usually produce both a music and original sound track version of videos I film.
TJDOZIER1 4 years ago
much better!
spencermcgrew 4 years ago
That's better...
mitsudave 4 years ago
You cannot imagine how it sounds & feels to be INSIDE one of those. Those twin Allison's are deafening - even with headsets on.
I have a lot of video from the "back seat" of White Lightnin. As well as at airshows. Will try to upload soon.
fly524 4 years ago
If I suck up around Planes of Fame long enough, maybe Steve will bust out and take me up in 23 Skidoo. I've only been with POF for 13 years, so I guess I'll keep cooking at Valle and walking the flight line at Chino for a few more years. I would fly in a bathtub with an ironing board strapped to it if Steve was the pilot!
TJDOZIER1 4 years ago
Great shots well cut of fantastic P-38s. Must see! Thanks!
carinthian2 4 years ago
Absolutely beautiful.
KingCrumbdenfroft 4 years ago
God, that sound when all 3 go by... imagine 48 of them coming back from a mission like that! :)
Treize69 4 years ago