NH: Right-to-work folk taunt pro-union observers at state house

[SmokeRingsPipeDreams]

I'm all for collective bargaining. But not when the govt is on the side of the unions and forces a business to deal with them. If union workers wish to strike that's great, but if a business fires them and hires new people that should be ok as well. Keep big brother out of it.

[rrhynes]

Unions only real advantage to most employees , other than FAscist public employee unions, is to keep an employer from firing a shitty worker.

[mannexx111]

Well I'm glad to see someone realizes how it works I just don't get the people making min wage and trying to get this passed. I mean how fucking stupid can you be. And don't think I don't realize how corrupt the unions are and how greedy the union suits are. but that the best we have right now and we need them to get stronger not weaker and then the membership can clean there own house as necessary. Thanks for the comment

[MrBasilGanglia]

@mannexx111 Maybe if you had an education you could negotiate your own contract with an employer and get paid for what you are worth. You need a Union because you are too ignorant to make your own way in this world.

[mannexx111]

@MrBasilGanglia I guarantee I have forgotten more than you'll ever know ma'am but let me just make it clear so in the future if you ever gather enough brain power to blow your nose without a helping hand. Bargaining power is attained through collusion of the majority of the workforce. An Individual person has no power to negotiate anything with an employer of a large or even small corporation without a united majority. Ever heard of shopping at the company store. Logic Stupid!!

[MrBasilGanglia]

@mannexx111 I have skills that Companies want/desire, therefore I can and do negotiate my own contracts with employers. If I do not like what they offer, I counter offer. If that does not work I go elsewhere. It's as simple as that. Unions blackmail employers to keep shitty employees, of which I am sure you are one. I can tell by the obvious lack of education/learning shown in the way you write and attempt to form complete, coherent sentences. Good luck loser.

[mannexx111]

@MrBasilGanglia The only skill you have shown is how to run your mouth without the aid of any grey matter. I am sure employers are just beating down your door with amazing offers however restroom attendant and elevator operator aren't in much demand these days. You keep trying though don't give up I'm sure if you let them know you will also go the extra mile and wipe ass to maybe a nursing home will hire you to wipe shitty ass. It,s not your fault your mom and dad are related.

[MrBasilGanglia]

@mannexx111 Ha, your weak arguments and ignorant use of the English language are juvenile. Go piss up a rope.

[MrBasilGanglia]

@mannexx111 I can hardly type I am laughing so hard...I saw your fat ugly mug on your channel. Give up guitar and singing you old lonely loser...hahahaha. Oh shit, that was rich.

[lonewolf1369]

I never knew there was so many Statist trollers who call themselves "free staters" in NH or wherever and still want the government to violently enforce their job preferences, instead of having to achieve it in the market legitimately and voluntarily....

[MrBasilGanglia]

@lonewolf1369 Give up Lonewolf1369, it's like arguing with neanderthals, but is much more difficult to get these idiots to understand cause and effect.

[ckairnes68]

@PixelDansIronFist; Democracy is the shoe horn to Socialism. "Two wolves and a lamb deciding what's for dinner.", Mob Rule, etc...

Like I said before; If unions were so great everyone would join them. The fact is union members are a minority portraying themselves as the majority. I can care less if someone joins a union in the private sector. I don't think our public servants should be able to unionize. They're a drain on the tax payers, and don't deserve the perks.

[HydraGraphics]

1:12 why would he even say that????

[wyomingliberty]

New Hampshire used to be a right to work state. Times change.

[marniespeaks]

with China paying .50 cents an hour, and US prison labor making .75 cents and hour - why should I as a business have to pay an American worker more than one dollar an hour?

[lonewolf1369]

@marniespeaks minimum wage does nothing but reduce the total amount of jobs...not all jobs can pay the minimum wage.....all you do by raising minimum wage is only allowing those jobs that can afford such a wage to exist...other jobs that existed below that wage are priced out of the market...this is why minimum wage proponents don't support minimum wage to be $30 an hour...

[marniespeaks]

@lonewolf1369 you not worth more than .75 an hour

[lonewolf1369]

@marniespeaks you obviously don't know anything about market economics....THE PRICE OF LABOUR is a signal about the demand and productivity of that job...if a job doesn't make $10 an hour, all you do by raising the minimum wage, is DESTROY THAT JOB, THAT'S IT...why don't you advocate for $30 an hour minimum wage then????

[mannexx111]

@lonewolf1369 If a job docent make enough profit to pay a worker at least 10$ an hour . Then there is a management problem or the product is not in demand and that job and product should be destroyed. You don't continue doing things that are not profitable. ""Unless of course your the federal or state government"" Then of course logic be dammed well make up the negative balance by stealing it from the peoples retirement funds and 401 ks were the gov we do what we want screw every 1

[lonewolf1369]

@mannexx111 job or product should be destroyed...WOW WHAT A GREAT WAY TO GROW THE ECONOMY....DESTROY JOBS...HOW THE HELL IS THIS GOING TO HELP PEOPLE GET JOBS????? let's get the government TO DESTROY JOBS BECAUSE IT PAYS LESS THAN WHAT THEY THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID. SO THAT WE CAN INSTEAD GIVE THEM WELFARE WHICH MANY CASES PAYS THE SAME OR LESS THAN THE JOB....

if you think hiring people at $10 an hour is so easy, WHY DON'T YOU DO IT YOURSELF JACKASS????

[lonewolf1369]

@mannexx111 many things are profitable, TO AN EXTENT THAT CUSTOMERS ARE WILLING TO PAY A PRICE FOR THAT...no one will buy a hot dog for $8...ALL YOU DO WITH MINIMUM WAGE IS DESTROY JOBS AND PROMOTE WELFARE, THAT'S IT. If you think it's so easy to hire people at $10 an hour, DO IT YOURSELF...HAVE YOU HIRED THOUSANDS OF HOMELESS BUMS AT $10 AN HOUR??? PLEASE DO SO IF YOU THINK IT'S SO EASY AND QUICK AS IF WALKING ON THE BEACH

[TheLadyMichele]

@lonewolf1369: well, I think you're worth 2 dollars a day, douche bag, and if you idiots still keep fighting for the "companies"/corporations that want to pay 2 dollars a day, then one day, this is how much you will make. History shows the facts that every time a company could they did, which is why unions got started in the first place.

[lonewolf1369]

@TheLadyMichele wow just insult me rudely because you don't understand real economics....listen bozo, not all jobs make $50 an hour..not all jobs make $10 an hour...some can only pay $9 or 8$ an hour..ALL YOU DO BY RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE, IS PRICE THAT JOB OUT OF THE MARKET...why don't you advocate for $50 an hour to be the minimum wage if you don't think it doesn't harm jobs?????

[TheLadyMichele]

@lonewolf1369 I agree with Marnie 100%. A. You are only worth 30¢ /hr. B. I have run more companies then you have fingers in my life time. I am a business consultant, you arrogant ass. I have helped more businesses succeed than you have worked for. Including my own. Have you ever seen Morgan Spurlock's "Minimum Wage" episode of the 30 Days series?

Lastly, how much do you think is the "lowest" amount someone can/should make, and still have a "decent life"?

[lonewolf1369]

@TheLadyMichele your comment still doesn't refute the fact that minimum wage destroys jobs...YOUR job may be worth 30c an hour...OR..I can go to another job that pays $5 an hour...and if I get better I can be promoted and get paid $10 an hour....OR I can start my own job and pay myself $8 an hour....If you really are a business person, then you would obviously see that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERSON BEING WORTH ONLY ONE WAGE... The WAGE DEPENDS ON THE JOB..

[lonewolf1369]

@TheLadyMichele furthermore, not everyone needs a "living wage" to still benefit from a job...young people, teenagers or dependent spouses can still benefit from a job that pays $5 an hour because they get paid and they don't have much living expenses....so it's still profitable for them...furthermore, there are EXEMPTIONS to the minimum wage for these people! Teenagers, younger people get an EXEMPTION minimum wage which is LOWER than the ADULT minimum wage! This proves that minimum wage is bad!

[lonewolf1369]

@TheLadyMichele the fact that the government has a LOWER minimum wage exemption for teenagers and disabled people and younger people, PROVES that minimum wage destroys jobs for those who are less productive or for jobs that pay less! If the STANDARD minimum wage didn't cause harm, THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AN EXEMPTION...FURTHERMORE, WELFARE in many cases pays LESS than minimum wage! Why have a minimum wage if what you pay people for being idle is LESS than the minimum wage????

[MrBasilGanglia]

@TheLadyMichele What a complete twit. Who will buy the products of the said corporation when all they earn is $2 per day? Where will the Corporate profits be then brainiac? Pretty soon the Corporation will close and you will have ZERO income.

[marniespeaks]

@lonewolf1369 fine I'll pay 30 cents an hour

[lonewolf1369]

@marniespeaks hahahah you obviously don't understand market economics/Austrian economics...a job's productivity determines it's wage...if an employer has a job that makes $5 an hour, they WILL pull workers from jobs that pay less! You are clueless about economics....you think employers are total masters and employees slaves when they are constantly competitively bidding for their labour...FURTHERMORE, YOU STILL cannot refute the fact that minimum only destroys jobs, THATS IT!

[marniespeaks]

@lonewolf1369 you are a slave hush up!

[mannexx111]

@lonewolf1369 You sound stupid enough to be a federal gov elected official. No job should exist that's not profitable enough to pay mim wage. Thats a sign that there is not enough demand or that management has fucked it up. Only a elected official can be this fucking blind stupid...........

[lonewolf1369]

@mannexx111 I'm not a federal official. If no job should exist that's not profitable to pay minimum wage, THEN YOU JUST DESTROY THAT JOB FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT AND CREATE UNEMPLOYMENT. Nothing happens with your stupid minimum wage! You put people on welfare instead! That's your stupid idea! To pay people to be idle, instead of working! Nice plan! All minimum wage does is INCREASE UNEMPLOYMENT, = INCREASE POVERTY, THAT'S IT.

[lonewolf1369]

@mannexx111 furthermore, if you think it's so easy to pay people $10 an hour, or higher, WHY DON'T YOU DO IT YOURSELF JACKASS??? DO YOU EMPLOY ANYONE? WHY NOT EMPLOY THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED BECAUSE OF MINIMUM WAGE??? COME ON IT'S SO EASY TO JUST MAKE A JOB THAT PAYS $10 AN HOUR FOR THEM SO WHY DON'T YOU DO IT?????

[lonewolf1369]

@mannexx111 minimum wage JUST INCREASES THE PRICE OF THE GOOD AND SERVICE THAT THE EMPLOYEE SELLS TO MAKE THE WAGE. Not everyone will want a hot dog for $8. Therefore a hot dog vendor can only make so much! HENCE MINIMUM WAGE DESTROYS jobs. It's basic economics which you obviously don't comprehend

[lonewolf1369]

@mannexx111 and to show you just how retarded your comment was. If an elected official is so stupid, WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE SMART ENOUGH TO SET WHAT THE PROPER MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD BE THAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES JACKASS??? Let me guess, YOU want to be that official and to make the laws for others...

[MrBasilGanglia]

@lonewolf1369 Also, it ups the cost of whatever product/service a company sells and therefore negates the higher pay. People do not think rationally any longer. If I produce Milk and have to pay higher wages, I pass that on to my customers, one of which happens to be the higher waged employee. GET IT DUMMIES?

[lonewolf1369]

@MrBasilGanglia exactly. We live in the economic dark ages where people don't know and don't care what the fuck prices signal, including wage prices and every other price. They even admit that they think a minimum wage can be too high...you don't see them recommend $30 an hour for minimum wage, yet they dismiss that any minimum wage has the same destructive effect...and why stop at wages? why not fix prices on houses, cars, food, gas? Stupid...

[TheLadyMichele]

@marniespeaks: well, let's just throw everyone in prison, then? What a stupid statement. Wouldn't it be better to say that any "company" that sells products in this country should have to abide by American laws, including prisons, or pay huge tariffs. This would go so much farther in protecting American People.

[marniespeaks]

@TheLadyMichele abide by the law in the US - who does that anymore?

[TheLadyMichele]

@marniespeaks lol, this is my point. You make it for me. There is absolutely no "law" left in America. I should say when it comes to someone having a registered business. I am OSHA and MSHA certified, as I have to go onto construction and mining sites from time to time, and these "companies" order their employees to break safety rules all the time. I see it with my own eyes, and PPE tech is way behind the times.

[lonewolf1369]

@marniespeaks because other employers will bid up your workers away from you....if they have a job that makes $3 an hour, workers will go there and not to your job...then another job pays $5 an hour, and so on...

[TheGrayman1234]

I will never be forced to join a union.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

One of the main reasons for the U$A's economic downfall was the huge amount of repression towards unions during the Reagan era. You can blame "fiat currency" and "artificial interest rates" all you want, but the fact is Americans would be in a much better shape economically if unions were still going strong.

[MrBasilGanglia]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 HAHA!! That is insane. If you can't negotiate an employment contract with an employer on your own, then you probably are not worth the wages the Unions actually get for you. I was in a Union and it was horrific. Lazy people were payed exactly the same as I was paid. And as far as Public Unions, you should not be allowed to Bargain with Taxpayers.

[TheLadyMichele]

@MrBasilGanglia A. You say, "Lazy people were payed exactly the same as I was paid." Well, I have worked in lots of "non-union" situations that were exactly the same. Only those that that lazy were buddies or family of the payers. b. You say this, as if you are a "hard" worker, and not lazy. Then why didn't you get off your ass, and make sure those that were "lazy" got fired? To much work for you?

[MrBasilGanglia]

@TheLadyMichele Your poor grammar explains quite a bit...the same goes with your buddy mannexx111. A Union is about the only way a moron can earn a decent wage...too bad it's at the expense of others.

[mannexx111]

@MrBasilGanglia You probably believe jesus is coming to don't ya. Make sure you stand next to a chiropractor while looking skyward because your neck is going to get mighty sore.And in the mean time us union folk will continue to make things better for the brain dead morons in the world such as you sore neck fucktards... If it wasn't for us you would still be shopping at the company store. Your a waste of good oxygen...

[TheLadyMichele]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 Police and teachers are a perfect example of this, and the other side of the double edged sword that is everything in life, lol. It's damn near impossible to get even a bad cop or teacher fired, because of their unionization. We have to learn the difference of what good and bad comes out of the system, not trash the system entirely. i.e. bad government officials doesn't mean trash the system, it means "election reform" i.e. no private contributions.

[mannexx111]

@TheLadyMichele Your my kind of Gal "" Way to go"" These idiots don't even know what the phrase shopping at the company store means. And there to stupid to even pick up a book and learn any history even a Google search seems to be above there heads.

[stephenabm]

Great speech on "Right to Work" and was clear and well spoken!

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

A lot of people in NH are anti-union. Very sad.

[mannexx111]

right to work laws only benefit people like illegal workers who shouldn't be here anyway they bring down the wage for everyone else get behind you local union they are the ones who set the wages for the rest of us without them the worker would be totally screwed. Learn a little about the American worker and the struggle to get a wage you can live on from a non caring abusive corporations. Its all been documented throughout american history

[TheLadyMichele]

@mannexx111 100% agree! BRAVO, BRAVO! Standing Ovation. Best one liner I've heard to explain it to the dumb asses, and/or those that use "workers rights" as a way to pay illegal workers 3 dollars an hour, and then force American citizens to except the same rate.

...and least we forget history. Why the hell did unions ever get started in the first place if these thieves treated their employees so great before Obama took office? Um, striking workers get beta on the head, maybe (1934)?

[macchef01]

go to Kentucky, go to Georgia, Got to Alabama. Go to the red states where Union Labor is almost nonexistent. See what "right-to-work" really means. It means that you have the right to work for NOTHING and get fired over ANYTHING and the only people that can help you is NOONE.

[LiveFreeOrDie1985]

@macchef01 My dad lives in North Carolina now. A right to work state. He says the poverty is horrible. Tons of people there work two and three jobs.

[TravistheHuman]

I once worked for 10.35 an hour with no high school diploma at a nonunion job. How is that even possible? Shouldn't I be a slave?

[Dewdaahman]

Union = middleman.. non-Union = I speak for myself and conduct my own business, thank you..

[ckairnes68]

Why is it so hard for people to grasp the idea of freedom of choice? If the unions were so great, they should be able to build their membership roles based on their good work.

[PixelDansIronFist]

@ckairnes68 Unions do have freedom of choice everyone. Every workplace votes for or against and the democratic majority decides, unless ur against democracy?

[habibimaya]

are you thinking pro union folks ton't taunt right to workers? seriously. come on

[RDJim]

The only thing I could see that could be deemed taunting came from the union guys. What did I miss?

[ArtisanTony]

So I am confused. Is RidleyReport pro union or not. I don't care what happened in Russia. Unions are destroying this country. We do have ways to protect workers, it is called the dep of labor and minimum wage laws. All unions do is try to control over priced wages. This may be why I unsubscribed to this channel before.

[crazypants88]

@ArtisanTony Actually minimum wage laws hurt workers, especially the poor, unskilled ones.

If you mandate that workers must be paid, say, 8 dollars/hour than all the workers who's jobs don't warrant that wage will most likely end up loosing their jobs.

It is conceivable to raise prices to compensate, but it's not a given that customers will pay the new higher prices.

[ArtisanTony]

@crazypants88 There are already minimum wage laws.

[crazypants88]

@ArtisanTony Yes, I know.

[1775novten]

Can't wait for the spit-storm!!!! I hope your response is something along the lines of "want in one hand and sh*t in the other, and see which one fills up first".

[hellsunicorn]

Right to work could mean anything, it all hinges on what is actually in the law being proposed. I applaud Ridley for bring some transparency as to what the law actually says rather than brainlessly cheer-leading either of the two sides.

[1775novten]

@hellsunicorn Evidently (although I'm not sure why) there are companies that REQUIRE you to join the union in order to be employed at that business. The right-to-work bill would prohibit any company from requiring you to join the union as part of employment. I see both sides of the argument, but in the end I think a business should be able to hire and fire who they want.

[hellsunicorn]

@1775novten I would argue that anything that involves any kind of arbitrary government enforced requirement would be undesirable. However, if a company wishes to make Union-membership a term of employment, I can always find another employer or profession. And believe me, any business that would require me to join the union probably wouldn't have me as an employee unless I had previously made a determination that that Union would benefit me and what I believe in.

[deepwater1974]

I like unions because it helps keep companies from taking advantage of workers but at the same time I have personally seen workers take advantage of companies because they were in a union.

[1775novten]

@deepwater1974 What is an example of how a company takes advantage of workers, where there isn't gov regulation that prohibits it? There may be some, I'm just not aware of any. I agree there used to be needs for unions, but I think unions have served their purpose and have since become politically motivated themselves.

[RetSquid]

@1775novten

Every hear of the "Company Store"?

[1775novten]

@RetSquid I believe so. Isn't that where employees were paid in tokens that were only good at the companies own store? I don't believe that is legal anymore, but I also don't see a problem in someone knowingly working for trade, as opposed to money. The gov has restricted our ability to trade, because they can't tax it.

[RetSquid]

@1775novten

No, they were paid in cash, but the only place to spend it was at a store owned by the company.

I don't think someone should be hired or fired based on membership in a group.

[1775novten]

@RetSquid If it were cash then why couldn't they spend it anywhere that would take cash? They way I recall it was that they were paid in vouchers or tokens. Then again, those details are moot. I agree that people "shouldn't" be fired for those reasons, but I also think a company should be able to hire and fire who they want. It doesn't make fiscal sense for them to fire people for petty reasons and have to retrain someone, so I doubt it would happen often.

[RetSquid]

@1775novten

They lived in a 'company town', that company didn't allow any non-company businesses in that town.

I work in a warehouse with no union, the pay and bennies are better than other jobs in the area, starting pay is 50% above minimum wage, two paid 20 min. breaks and lunch, profit sharing, great medical, matching 401, etc. If you join/start a union you lose all the profit sharing, so here a union would be a net loss.

[1775novten]

@RetSquid Sounds like a win-win to me. You feel like you are being compensated and treated fairly and the business doesn't have to spend the added cost to hire it's own legal team to constantly battle with the union's legal team. Personally I don't see why a business would want a term of employment to be to join the union, but I guess that's their prerogative.

[RetSquid]

@1775novten

Exactly, maybe some union-owner kickbacks? Who know?

[1775novten]

@RetSquid Agree, which would mean the union and the employer are in bed together, which is a conflict of interest and the exact opposite of what a union is supposed to represent. So if people are dumb enough to work for an employer who requires you to pay union fees, then maybe that is the place for them, because I sure wouldn't want them on the line with me.

[PixelDansIronFist]

@1775novten Just because there exists laws against it doesn't men their enforced for the weaker and poor of our society. McDonald's and Wal-Mart were found to have secret internal policies to coerce employees to continue working beyond their shifts without pay and these desperate workers comply out of fear of loosing their jobs. When workers democratically vote for a union these companies close the store.

[1775novten]

@PixelDansIronFist Oh, I completely agree that just because regulation exists it doesn't mean it's being enforced. But can't an employee consult a lawyer if he has questions or concerns instead of paying a union lawyer? I don't think anyone would contest that unions cost business's profits. But if a business only wants to hire only union workers, then so be it. I think they should be able to hire or fire anyone they want.

[circusboy90210]

anybody that buy's into that right to work bullshit is a fucking idiot. right to work does not mean what the words say, it means ability to be fired for any reason at any time. DON'T BELIEVE THESE IDIOTS HYPE. THOSE PEOPLE ONLY DON'T WANT UNIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO HOLD A UNION JOB.

[TMOvids]

@circusboy90210 If someone "lacks the ability to hold a union job" you would want the government to make sure they stay unemployed and in poverty?

[1775novten]

@circusboy90210 But shouldn't an employer be allowed to hire and fire anyone that they want? If you were a business owner, would you want someone telling you who you could fire and for what reasons? I think you would feel different if you were a business owner.

[RetSquid]

@1775novten

What if the employer wants you to join his private club and pay him to work at his business?

[1775novten]

@RetSquid I would tell him to pound sand. And if that meant me not being able to work there anymore, then so be it. I just don't see the advantage of a business owner making people join a union that is supposed to be serving the workers. It's either a poor business decision or they are scratching each others back and it is a conflict of interest - the later is more likely. So I just don't see why anyone would want to work at such a place.

[RetSquid]

@circusboy90210

So unemployed people should have to bribe the union in order to get a job?

[circusboy90210]

@RetSquid no bribes involved here, just be qualified. good employers want employees to be able to have good representation, it goes to show they are good employees as the union demands you have the skills necessary to do the job properly. unions are what make high salary's possible. right to work does not mean what it says. you can be fired at any time for any reason.

[RetSquid]

@circusboy90210

If you read my earlier post you would know that I am far better off without the union. And your employer SHOULD be able to fire you at any time for any reason, just like you can quite any time for any reason.

[circusboy90210]

@RetSquid nobody should be able to be fired just because of a personality conflict etc. small bs . you don't like unions don't join one. but right to work does not mean what it say's and is very misleading..I live in a right to work state sometimes,as one of my homes is there. you can quit a union job at anytime but can't be fired for unjust causes as you can in a right to work state. give me a union job any day over a non union job, higher pay and harder to be fired. get real sir.

[RetSquid]

@circusboy90210

I'm in a non-union job, in a right-to-work State, I'm getting paid MORE than I would be if there was a union, I can leave anytime I want and my employer can fire me anytime he wants, as is his right as the owner of the business. As an owner I should be able to hire and fire anyone I choose for any reason other than those prohibited by law, such as age, race or sex.

[circusboy90210]

@RetSquid highly doubtgull. your not an owner.no you should not be able to fire for any reason. workers have rights too.your shooting yourself in the foot. very doubtfull any non union job pays more than a union job for the same position in the same size company.