basically what Miltiades wanted to do is flank the persians with the side strong army and he took the advantage that the persians where coming upwards and they where getting tired while the greeks where getting downwards to catch up the persians when the battle started the greeks started flanking the persians.thats what happend
ps. i an greek and i have learned all that in the history lesson also I AM PROUD TO BE GREEK!!!
@farazfontana ok "mr expert" im sure you studied your entire life from thousands of texts and reports of the greco-persian battles, like the people who provided information for this documentary. you are among the supidest people i have ever heard
Arabs and iranians aact like they were civiliced, they were in such a civiliced state that xerxes 1 became mad on the river the hellaspont and decided to Whip it with whips !!!! how fucking ignorant is that shit !!!
@farazfontana what herodotus ? Thycydides ? polybios ? Tacitus ? Livius ? men go to someone else try to impress with ''go and do some tresearch'' they WHIPPED THE FUCKING NILE !!!! ever read a greek orator ? u think a greek would have done that ? no they didnt were superstitious ! their gods were not like we see god or whatever. They had a way different meaning for them then it has to us !!!
u with ur fucking english level claim to read many sources?? or read a greek orator?? u think that u were civilized ?? if they weren't greek and romans and yeah iranians and arabs u would keep ur primitive lives! u holes!
@cleverlybideIt keep telling that yourself moron ! look at AL the inventions done the last couple of hundred years ! and i speak 4 langguages besides this so fuck YOU
@Japanorama lol congrats on your little street lamps. greeks were the first to invent civilisation, science, maths, modernised combat strategy, and society
@cleverlybideIt Wow, a bit insecure aren't we? My reply was to someone else obviously. I think you suffer from Napoleon syndrome, regarding your age you really shouldn't behave like this, let alone on the internet. k have a nice life. b-bye.
paranoiarama insecure is u that don't want to say : sorry, excuse me or... when u call someone a racist just because ur mastake was "obvious"! rofl! instead u continue to insult, directly and cowardly indirectly
rofl ! i hit a nerve! i use r instead of “are" and u instead of “you” but unlike u bitch, i don’t cover my anger over what irritates me by irrelevant comments!
for the people that have confused by all that information about Greek history and battles, the battle of Marathon took place in 490 b.c battle of Thermopylae in 480 b.c and battle of Plataea that was the final of the war in 479 b.c......
If Greece has fallen to the Persians, then Europe would have become a colony of the eastern world, simply cause there was no one strong enough to oppose them after the Greeks and history would not be the same. This battle and the ones that followed are a turning point in history. So a thank you, must go to Greece.
That must be the Platea battle. Thermoyplae happened in 480 bc with over 800,000 Persians and 7,300 Greeks. 300 were the Spartan Royal Guard.
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Plus the fact that a Persian would get a spear, and a shield, and NOTHING else. Not even a helmet, just a turban (like that's going to be good in Greece!)
Xerxes had to whip his immortals to make them fight, as every single persian were scared of the Spartans. They were beasts upon the battlefield.
A big thank to all of them that gave their lifes for Western Civillization
Nowdays we facing a terror that called Economy colapse. NWO will need some more than few Wall Street muppets to conq Greece ...and some of em will die here.
Stay strong fellow Greeks if 11.000 Greeks can won the biggest Empire of world imagine what 11.000.000 can do
From that battle 6000 Persians died and ONLY 192 Greeks. Thats the difference of an educated, trained, free, democratic and defensive army than a pack of slaves fighting under the threat of the whip of Tyranny.
@yperionas The greek commander used a tactic that was copied by armies of the future by weakening his center line and strengtening their flanks and attack the persian army. The center was pushed back the strong flanks caved in on the Persians. And the greek troops were well trained, armored and carried long spears and shields.
@yperionas The numbers are overtly exagerated without a doubt. You have to remember that the accounts of the greco-persian wars were written by the Greeks. I personally don't trust the source or the person who came up with that figure. According to the source - each Greek managed to kill 33 Persians, or 100 Persians on every 3 Greeks. There's no way the Greeks were able to inflict such casualties, even if the Persians would have been completly unarmed (fighting with bare hands). Use logic :)
btw the "offical" casualty figure for the Battle of Marathon is: 6400 Persians killed vs 192 Greeks killed. Absolutely ridiculous...anybody who blindly accepts it needs his head checked.
I personally believe the statistic was made up. IMO many more Greeks fell that day, and possibly fewer Persians than the source would like us to believe. I do however believe that the Greeks won that battle.
@Farshad86 ah u believe that the Greeks won the battle?wow...lol anyways..to get serious i think u may have forgot that the Greeks' training and battle experience were on a much better level than that of the Persians...perhaps this was critical...
True cause during the time of the sassanids the greeks were beaten severly by the persians who know started to armour their soldiers. They started to fight organisided and not individually like during the first greco-persian wars. the Sassanids beat the byzantine greeks so much that allah had to rescue them (surah ar rum in the quran). Lol. Iranians are a very smart and have good manners here in west today. so much for marathon. Respect!!!
@PoitierFrance yeah i dont doubt that Iranians have good manners in the west today..i hope Iran will be a secular country one day free from that plague called Ahmadinejad...btw Greeks did win the battle lol..i was slightly ironic there ..peace my friend :)
@Farshad86 Well no scholar actually takes those numbers seorisly but there is no counter evidence either so it has to reamin unknown but i however agree that 192 men is impossible. There are battles like mycale were the casulties was also high amongst the greeks.
@PoitierFrance What do we actually know...? there might have existed texts about this battle from the Persian side as well, but they were lost in time and then naturally newer generations never got to know the real truth.
I mean imagine if someone back in those days just casually (or perhaps intentionally) had crushed the 'Cyrus Cylinder' - the world would never have guessed that a Persian king was the very first ruler to actually establish the first charter of human rights!
I think it's a real shame that the statistic of this battle was more than likely fake, because people will take advantage, it sort of lends false credence to propaganda motives.
What we can assess with certainty is that The Persian Warriors who were part of this army, were trained in the art of war, they were trained killers, and the only thing on their mind while marching towards Greece was to inflict as much damage as they could upon their enemy.
so with that in regard, i'm in extreme doubt that the Greeks emerged out of this clash minus ONLY 192 men...no chance! Had the source estimated that some 3000-4000 Greeks lost their lifes that day - then i would have instantly trusted it.
There are a number of reasons of why the greek could repell the persian invasion despite being a large invasion. Two main reason is, greek millitary was superior, as herodotus states "not in bravery or warlike spirit" but in armour and longer weapon, they were as naked men (persians) figting full armoured men (greeks) and the strategey, take battle of salamis as an example.
@PoitierFrance Yes, you have made some good points, but i personally don't view the two arguments you made as the main reason for their victory. I think the key lay in the tactics they used, much more so than armour and weaponry, including the fatal mistakes the Persian commander made. Persians should have won this battle, they had superior numbers and lots of cavalry while Greeks had none - the Persians could easily have utilized the double envelopment tactic on the open flat plains.
Keep in mind that the battle formation & weaponry of the Greek troops were not the same as Alexander's. Greek and Persian spears were approx of the same length. At this point in time, infantry from both sides were still fighting much more individually than the phalanx (box/square formations of later Macedonians armies). They simply would line up both their armies opposite each other and run straight into each other, which viewed from a birds eye perspective would look like a unrecognizable mess.
@Farshad86 the phalanx was actually existand and deployed,by all greek armies,including athenians and spartans,thats the whole point of the hoplite armour set. im not sure if the loxe phalanx was formed at the time which was an improvement,the macedonias used the loxe phalanx,which they just adopted from earlier greek battles.the athenian and spartan spears were 3 meters long,the sarissa,the macedonian spear was 4 to 6 meters long,the persians didnt have any solid formations,get your facts right
@Farshad86 I agree with you. Btw, the greco-persian wars didn't destory the pride of any of these two nations. Persian culture and history remained until the fall of the sassanid empire, which was the last native persian empire before being ruled by turks, mongols and arabs. I love persia, and don't let my name fool you, im not an european im a kurd and we are related to persians and medians. We once ruled over a large part of asia.
@cleverlybideIt really no shit!!True but iranians need to learn history from others cause their mullahs teachers taught them wrong history.Do you know why there arent persian historians?
My friend, History was written only by the Greeks. There were other great and older civilizations, but only the Greeks wrote History in a way that affected the future cultures. Now, for the battle, have in mind that all western-Asian people, the today muslims have never been good fighters. They had no faith, courage, battle tactics and of course, their brain works backwords !
@Farshad86 The numbers are correct and they appear throughout whole historiography and confirmed even by foreign historians with a small reduction. Unless you suggest that the Greeks of that age could not count and that historians 1000 years later could "guess" better. And allow me to add that your logic is false since you do the same mistake as the ...persians did. They counted the number of greeks in the battle and probably said its a 1/33 analogy and nevertheless they got massacred.
@Farshad86 Check also on Demaratus, the greek advisor of Xerxes and consider carefully this: Demaratus said to Xerxes that the Spartans are the most fierceful army in Greece. And Xerxes told him that he had in his troops warriors that could combat and defeat more than one spartan at a time. And Demaratus answered: My great king you are right your warriors could fight against a Spartan or even a couple more BUT when they are all together they are unbeatable and so it was...
@Farshad86 And finally something last and I will say no more: Aeschylus a greek tragedian that LIVED the Persian wars in one of his works called: The Persians, he states: '' And only we,contrary to the Barbarians, never count the enemy in battle.'' Those wars were not a video game (push a button and boom), those wars were won by the heart!...and many other things I cannot develop here. So believe what you want to believe and I believe what I want to believe...
@Farshad86 they fought as phalanx and yes everything is possible in war not only back then but again in 1821 (Greek revolution) and even 1975 when Turks invade Cyprus 164 loses to 1000
@ChaossHellas -- hey , where did you find or get this clip from ? because i tried looking it up on the History Channel and Google but i can't find it . All i need to know is who created it and when. Thank you (:
my intention was not to be disrespectful towards the brave soldiers who fought in WW2! all of them were heroes, let that be very clear. But what I meant was: a country like belgium, also didn't have a good military force and they hold out for 18 days! of course the Netherlands or Belgium couldn't hold the germans for long because their tactics, technology and military training was superb. Sometimes I wonder, when watching tv shows like generals at war, how could the allied forces possibly win :o
I mean, no country always has a beautifull, glorious history forever: greece was eventually conquered by rome(however: greece conquered rome on cultural area)and rome was later conquered by barbarian tribes. For example: I'm dutch and I'm proud of our batavian heritage and our rebellion against the romans, and our golden age in 1600-1700.But I'm also fully aware of the darkside of our history and present: for examle massive slave trade and pussying out of WW2 after 5 days of fighting the germans
For a fellow country men you know little about WW2.
For once, we where forced to surrender by our gourverment and german threats to bomb our cities, our generals wanted too fight and where actually holding them at rotterdam and the "afsluitdijk". And I mean holding as in the germans where trowing away men power on it. Its then they threatend to bomb our cities if we didn't surrender that we did (our gourverment atleast) and germans still bombed rotterdam.
I mean geez, our old ford double deckers where actually holding off the far more advance german air force.
To say we pussied out is like freaking disrespectful for the people that did fight for their country those days and got freaking backstabbed by their own gourverment.
I takes alot of courage to freaking get on your bike with a old bolt rifle against a fully mobile and state of the art equiped army. And to even hold them off, thats pure willpower.
man, on every youtubefilm on ancient greek warfare I watch, there are persians/ iranians bitching about losing (or not) against ancient greece. Come on just face it, greece has a beautifull history just as the persians had in ancient times: you raped the roman legions with heavy armoured cataphracts! Isn't that something to be proud of? Just face it that greece had many heroic victories/ sacrifices against ancient persia and eventually made the persian empire fall!
@HandsomeStranger1963 you are right greece is nothing compared t what it was its people are mixed up threw time as almost any civilization did,but that's not negative the exchange of culture,knowledge . mabye not all greeks are "pure blood" indeed, but it's the spirit that counts. ancient values remain (unfortunatly threw few )but they exist. even threw romes,visigoths or the turks victories greece survived its language,history,part of the culture , for all greeks had and have love for freedom.
YOU ARE JUST BEING ENVIOUS !! i don't know why so much hatred!!
pontic greeks existed there (in pontos) from ancient times!! there is no such thing as christian turk!! turk invade greece for 4000 years so it would be silly if they would became suddenly christians,,there is more proofs that many greeks became muslims!!)))you are wring ,,your arguments are weak!!!
@HandsomeStranger1963 by the way romans loved greeks,,byzantine empire was roman empire but we all know it was a greek empire,,it was a gft of romans to the greeks!!:)))),,romans took everything from greeks !!!
be careful ,,you just said that romans committed genocide to greeks,,something that is not true!!
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get the rosse coloured galsses off fool.
what the romans didnt dop the Visigoths did. uyou live in the shadow of macedonia your not in any way related to the ancient greeks DNA tests have proven that.
the ancient macedonians and ancient greeks were NOT related DNA has proven that.
the modern macedonians are a 70 percent match to the ancient macedonoians DNA has proven that. i do no0t need to be carefull you pontusian refugee pretender.
@HandsomeStranger1963 hahaha you are the pretenders,, you are a slavoalbanian race,,ancient macedonians were greeks,,,and greeks today are very related to the ancient greeks,,and especially to the byzantine greeks!! fool,,and idiot,,when you are sayin thet greeks are not related and you are related it is a nonsense,,
you are just a bunch of slavoalbanian pigs:)))),,face it!!! your propaganda is so silly that all europe loling with you!!!
you have nothing to o with ancients ,,if the greeks just disappeared like you said ,,and the is no greeks,,how it is possible you to have relation with ancients? lol,,
slavs that came to the balcans at 6 a.c,,second sort bulgarians,,same language,,same culture!!! you are the most mixed nation of the world!!
you are mix of turks,,greeks,,albanans,,serbs,bulgarians,,and gypsies!!!
who say that?you?there are 19 million Greeks world wide!maybe not 100% in blood of ancient Greeks but they are Greeks! a 70% of the Greeks today,still have the same blood of ancients
@1234mirko lol People couldn't defeat you military. But you are already defeated by the capitalists. :) Look at your economy, THEY own you. Bankers and big corporations. I heard you are even selling your islands and your schools. Pathetic ;)
@omfg4000 the idea to sell our islands was not our's but other's envious bastards like Germans wanting an oportunity to enjoy the Greek beauty and sun....but like Leonidas said:" COME AND GET THEM"
The bad thing for all barbarians is that noone recalls any of the aforementioned battles.
On the other hand it is Marathon or naval battle of Salamis or the last stand of 300 spartans in"Thermopyles" that will live in heart , mind , scripts, songs and movies of the western civilization for ever. HELLAS and Hellenic culture is immortal.
You are happy now? you ^said^ that you are a barbarian stupid man who attacking all the time and you are pround? as you can see we have deferend! And we are groups macedonians - athenians - myrmidons (spartans) - thacians etc , we play together only in defence except one time with alexander because if no1 teach you some good culture you would be the same barbarian until now... sorry for my english. cya
But bear in mind that no matter how many "tactical", "strategic", "decisive" and the like battles the Persian won they were finally routed and humiliated.
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what ???
the persians had an empire ruling most of the then known world, for nearly 1000 years (achemenians. parthians and sasanians)
and the greeks ??? for how long did the greeks rule the world ???
Herodutus was a great historian. Of course he exaggereted numbers but keep in mind the before him there were only myths and legends. He shaped and started history as science as we know it today. Every professional historian will tell you that.
As for @SassanianPrince. You may live in the world of dreams. That is the way some people function. But bear in mind that no matter how many "tactical", "strategic", "decisive" and the like battles the Persian won they were finally routed and humiliated.
There is no real evidence that the persians wanted to carry on their expansion into Europe apart from Trace. This Persian attack on Athens was only a punitive expedition. As the Athenian started messing in the relations between the persians and the asia minor greeks.
Fithipides run to Sparta (about 200 km). Stays there one day.Gets back to Athens.Tells the news.Runs to Marathon (45 kms).After 4-5 days of rest HE FIGHTS as a hoplite.After the victory RUNS BACK to Athens IN FULL WEBBING (about 30 kgs).When he arrives he cries "WE WON" . He dies at place
Why did he have to run back to Athens after the victory? Couldn't he just walk? The battle was over right? There was no immediate danger... Or did i miss somethingt?
They'll have to face the fierce barbarians of Gaul, Germania, the Spaniards, the Carthaginian colonies in Spain, and to some extent, the British, should Xerxes attempt to conquer Western Europe.
Oh but I do got to admit this documentary is one sided ... They make the Persians sound like the Nazi's .. The persians like the greeks wanted to expand their lands but dont make it look like the greeks saved the world from persians lol
Don't think anyone is saying that, I think the point is that Western civilization would have developed in an entirely different manner than it did, had the Persian Empire expanded into Europe. The Persians had a rich culture as well. Unfortunately, many in the American media have taken to demonizing Iran.
Of course most documentaries about the greek-persian wars (and many others) are unbelievably one-sided. Most of the information about those battles are from greek or roman sources written decades or even hundreds of years after the events took place. There was no try at recording history objectively either and I once read, that greek and roman historiography must be read very very carefully, because a huge part of it follows a disturbingly dramatic and literary pattern.
yes my friend greece saved the world of tyrany then.if you wont believe it but its true because if persians han assault all europe then we had been now undr their domination because they were about millions and milions of population...so a revolution was a joke...
lol am not ur friend .. my friends aren't so stupid .. LOL The greeks didnt save the world from Tyranny ... One reason because The Persians are not tyrants and second The persians just wanted to prove a point to the greeks for startin a rebelion in asia minor .
IF u wanna debate I think u should do lil research ... This Documentary is based on greek historians and not on fact .. If the Persian empire did conquor the world .. the world would be a better place .. The persians were builders and were against slavery these are facts .. Although the persians had a rich and mightyl empire the lack the miltary tech the greeks had ..
yh but the persons had around 40,000 men comapred to the greeks 8,000 to 10,000. if the persons couldnt beat that smal force then they couldnt ever win
well the greeks are constantly at war alot more than the persians ... The persians are known for warfare . There aren't even armored like the greeks .. In the persian empire the whole region is a hot climate which makes it hard to armor in these conditions .. The Persians thought shire numbers would win a battle and dont use proper tatics like the greeks .. Romans and greeks are used to smaller forces but they are more effective in battle .. history shows this ..
Actually the Greeks had not been beaten by the Persian at the time of Marathon. And size is not always the measure of success because it was Persia's size that ultimately led to its downfall. Watch the third part, you should catch the section about how the Greeks have not been beat by the Persians at that point.
NOT TRUE ... Darius I conquored Thrace and Macedon .. Macedonians are greeks well i guess thats depends on your outlook on history .. Alexander was Macedonian ... Ionian were Greek colonies AGAIN took over by Persians and again in Egyptian Revolt aided by Greek navy another victory for the Persians and more battles but that is most of them .. Granted the Greeks won more and against amazing odds
This documentary is mostly based on Herodotus history and he is know to be the Father of Lies or some say the Father of History . You must remember history is wrote by the victor . The Greeks used propaganda to inspire and unite the Greek city states again Persian.. This documentary is cleary bias and based on speculation
Not sure where you are getting your information from, but here is a quotation from a historical website that has credibility. "He was also not the first writer to put together a long historical narrative in which the main thread is never completely lost. Although Herodtus demonstrated an amazing degree of neutrality, showing very little of the usual Greek bias..." Ill post the link below.
I didnt get the link .... "An amazing degree of neutraility " Have you read any of Herodotus texts? I have and for a person to make stories about Kings or battles they have never met or seen its clearly bias and unrealistic .
How does one write about persons character traits they have never met before an example Xerxes . Another thing during Xerxes's invasion of Greece , according to Herodotus the Persian forces were around 5 million . Every historian knows the truth to this lie real est is around 250 000 .. I found it hard to believe as I side with modern historians . Maybe you should check your sources
Maybe you should check your grammar first. Some of your sentences are hard to read. And if you think there were only 250,000, you need to think again. Your logic does not make sense. Under your first assumption most historians could not write about anything. You dont have to meet someone to write about their character. Example: Plenty of people write about past Presidents and political figures even though they have never met them. P.S.-I severally doubt you have read all of Herodutus.
I am a Classics Major and have only gotten half way through. And one more thing....Do you think every historian who writes about war, battles, or kings was at said event? Your logic is faulty.....just because Herodutus wasnt there doesnt make him unrealistic. Just as we read stories about the any conflict, we have to keep in mind who wrote it and that there is also another side. However, Herodutus, no matter what you say, was one of the most accurate historians of Greek history.
@armanipure1 I give up. Your a lost case. BTW your ad hominem logical phallacy is amazing. And please learn how to spell Herodotus! -us not os....its not a thrid declension masculine noun....
LOL maybe u should learn to read then .. The Persians never built a army that size .. My logic makes complete sense ... Every historic event is based on ancient text ,scupltures and historians. If you were not at the battle then the base of the story is created by anothers perception of what happened. Real historians have facts and stories tellers fabricate the facts
3:12...........good policy! take the fight to the enemy! never be boxed up in a walled town, it could have easily been a death trap!! mobility is the key to success!
hey greg on emore thing and this one is reaally cool. an ancient mosaic that depicts Alexander the Great and the persians Darious as well. go to google images and search
ΠΑΣ ΜΗ ΕΛΛΗΝ ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΣ!!!!
RS13GEO 2 months ago 2
ATHENIANS! Tonight we dine in HELL!
Agent1W 3 months ago
You the orientals count only on numbers . You don't understand what strategy means. That's why Alexander the best war stategist conquered your world.
smilycat3a 5 months ago
eretria isnt island.
mistgate1 7 months ago
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ncosia 9 months ago
basically what Miltiades wanted to do is flank the persians with the side strong army and he took the advantage that the persians where coming upwards and they where getting tired while the greeks where getting downwards to catch up the persians when the battle started the greeks started flanking the persians.thats what happend
ps. i an greek and i have learned all that in the history lesson also I AM PROUD TO BE GREEK!!!
COMMANDERGRAVEN123 10 months ago
sparta ftw
belke05 1 year ago
arabs were a part of the saba kingdom. they were in fact civilized and a few centuries even conquered north africa !!!
mikomecha 1 year ago
these historians r slightly strange!
cleverlybideIt 1 year ago
Miltiades was the first general in History that used strategy to win a battle.
werewolverine1 1 year ago 2
this is the most inaccurate and stupid documentary about the greco-persian wars
farazfontana 1 year ago
@farazfontana ok "mr expert" im sure you studied your entire life from thousands of texts and reports of the greco-persian battles, like the people who provided information for this documentary. you are among the supidest people i have ever heard
blobland19899 11 months ago
Arabs and iranians aact like they were civiliced, they were in such a civiliced state that xerxes 1 became mad on the river the hellaspont and decided to Whip it with whips !!!! how fucking ignorant is that shit !!!
GeenBAlopTeeVee 1 year ago
@GeenBAlopTeeVee listen you ignorant fuck.. go and do some research you idiot.. and then say shit
farazfontana 1 year ago
@farazfontana what herodotus ? Thycydides ? polybios ? Tacitus ? Livius ? men go to someone else try to impress with ''go and do some tresearch'' they WHIPPED THE FUCKING NILE !!!! ever read a greek orator ? u think a greek would have done that ? no they didnt were superstitious ! their gods were not like we see god or whatever. They had a way different meaning for them then it has to us !!!
GeenBAlopTeeVee 1 year ago
@GeenBAlopTeeVee
rofl!
u with ur fucking english level claim to read many sources?? or read a greek orator?? u think that u were civilized ?? if they weren't greek and romans and yeah iranians and arabs u would keep ur primitive lives! u holes!
cleverlybideIt 1 year ago
@cleverlybideIt keep telling that yourself moron ! look at AL the inventions done the last couple of hundred years ! and i speak 4 langguages besides this so fuck YOU
GeenBAlopTeeVee 1 year ago
@GeenBAlopTeeVee
speak 4langguages ! do u speak History also?
cleverlybideIt 1 year ago
@cleverlybideIt arabs were one of the first civilizations to have street lighting. dont be racist. just makes u look so pathetic. kbye.
Japanorama 11 months ago
@Japanorama lol congrats on your little street lamps. greeks were the first to invent civilisation, science, maths, modernised combat strategy, and society
blobland19899 11 months ago
@blobland19899 Yes I already knew that. If you look again I wasn't mocking great Greek history, was simply saying being racist get's you no where.
Japanorama 11 months ago
@blobland19899
the Greeks were great people but not the first to "invent" the things that u told
cleverlybideIt 11 months ago
@Japanorama
ur comment was posted to me as u made a mistake ! rofl!
cleverlybideIt 11 months ago
@cleverlybideIt
LMAO i seriously couldnt stop laughing,you are bashing someone about their English ability and you cant even spell "you" properly,EPIC FAIL
ulongkoror 11 months ago
@ulongkoror
rofl! u r vey stupid! rofl !
cleverlybideIt 11 months ago
@cleverlybideIt
yes someone who can not type "you" and "are" is calling me stupid
(facepalm)
ulongkoror 11 months ago
@ulongkoror and "very"
Japanorama 11 months ago
paranoiaTeacher corrected: "very"
Excellent!
little idiot, if u could just READ and UNDERSTAND, u wouldn’t call me a racist while i didn’t insult any nation
u said nothing to the guy that insulted them but u sent a reply to me ! rofl!
u claim to be a fair guy yet u confirmed opinion of another user that told: ‘the Greeks were the first to invent civilization…’
cleverlybideIt 11 months ago
@cleverlybideIt Wow, a bit insecure aren't we? My reply was to someone else obviously. I think you suffer from Napoleon syndrome, regarding your age you really shouldn't behave like this, let alone on the internet. k have a nice life. b-bye.
Japanorama 11 months ago
@Japanorama
paranoiarama insecure is u that don't want to say : sorry, excuse me or... when u call someone a racist just because ur mastake was "obvious"! rofl! instead u continue to insult, directly and cowardly indirectly
cleverlybideIt 11 months ago
@ulongkoror
rofl ! i hit a nerve! i use r instead of “are" and u instead of “you” but unlike u bitch, i don’t cover my anger over what irritates me by irrelevant comments!
cleverlybideIt 11 months ago
@cleverlybideIt
(facepalm) (shake head)
would you like me to recommand a mental disability researcher for you kiddo?
ulongkoror 11 months ago
@ulongkoror
rofl ! thank you ! but rather, recommEnd a psychiatrist. At the moment, i don't wan to bother a "a mental disability researcher" ! wow!
cleverlybideIt 11 months ago
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criseldaprangehkg 1 year ago
i love the thought of persians dying - should have slain every seed of them !!!
villavillaforever 1 year ago
Ironical that of so talk about "Democratical Athens" the leader of Athenians was aristoi and Pro Oligargy that is he was anti demokratica
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
Dude 150 mile run. Damm Why is the modern one so easy then?
Zacarriss 1 year ago
for the people that have confused by all that information about Greek history and battles, the battle of Marathon took place in 490 b.c battle of Thermopylae in 480 b.c and battle of Plataea that was the final of the war in 479 b.c......
FOTARAStheGREEK 1 year ago
2500 YEAR ANNIVERSARY TODAY!
ReiAyanami4ever 1 year ago 11
If Greece has fallen to the Persians, then Europe would have become a colony of the eastern world, simply cause there was no one strong enough to oppose them after the Greeks and history would not be the same. This battle and the ones that followed are a turning point in history. So a thank you, must go to Greece.
aris224 1 year ago 15
SpnOptimus2011:
That must be the Platea battle. Thermoyplae happened in 480 bc with over 800,000 Persians and 7,300 Greeks. 300 were the Spartan Royal Guard.
haynes1776:
Plus the fact that a Persian would get a spear, and a shield, and NOTHING else. Not even a helmet, just a turban (like that's going to be good in Greece!)
Xerxes had to whip his immortals to make them fight, as every single persian were scared of the Spartans. They were beasts upon the battlefield.
WolfytheWolf5667 1 year ago
Elladara mou sagapo. up the Greeks'....
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xmaple1x 1 year ago
12 September 490 BC
11.000 Greeks won 80.000 Persians.
A big thank to all of them that gave their lifes for Western Civillization
Nowdays we facing a terror that called Economy colapse. NWO will need some more than few Wall Street muppets to conq Greece ...and some of em will die here.
Stay strong fellow Greeks if 11.000 Greeks can won the biggest Empire of world imagine what 11.000.000 can do
SpnOptimus2011 1 year ago
2.500 years after celebrating the victory of civilization, democracy and free men over tyrrany
DuvalNorway 1 year ago
@DuvalNorway
rofl !it's exactly as u said ! when i see the comments like that i understand better y we have had many problems in the world since the battle !
bideitsmartly 1 year ago
This is why Im into greek Mythology and history. They guys know how to fight.
haynes1776 1 year ago
From that battle 6000 Persians died and ONLY 192 Greeks. Thats the difference of an educated, trained, free, democratic and defensive army than a pack of slaves fighting under the threat of the whip of Tyranny.
yperionas 1 year ago
@yperionas The greek commander used a tactic that was copied by armies of the future by weakening his center line and strengtening their flanks and attack the persian army. The center was pushed back the strong flanks caved in on the Persians. And the greek troops were well trained, armored and carried long spears and shields.
haynes1776 1 year ago
@yperionas The numbers are overtly exagerated without a doubt. You have to remember that the accounts of the greco-persian wars were written by the Greeks. I personally don't trust the source or the person who came up with that figure. According to the source - each Greek managed to kill 33 Persians, or 100 Persians on every 3 Greeks. There's no way the Greeks were able to inflict such casualties, even if the Persians would have been completly unarmed (fighting with bare hands). Use logic :)
Farshad86 1 year ago
btw the "offical" casualty figure for the Battle of Marathon is: 6400 Persians killed vs 192 Greeks killed. Absolutely ridiculous...anybody who blindly accepts it needs his head checked.
I personally believe the statistic was made up. IMO many more Greeks fell that day, and possibly fewer Persians than the source would like us to believe. I do however believe that the Greeks won that battle.
Farshad86 1 year ago
@Farshad86 The winner writes the history. It's up to others to subscribe to it.
MrMushedup 1 year ago
@Farshad86 ah u believe that the Greeks won the battle?wow...lol anyways..to get serious i think u may have forgot that the Greeks' training and battle experience were on a much better level than that of the Persians...perhaps this was critical...
Peace
ElectraofMaced0n 1 year ago
@ElectraofMaced0n
True cause during the time of the sassanids the greeks were beaten severly by the persians who know started to armour their soldiers. They started to fight organisided and not individually like during the first greco-persian wars. the Sassanids beat the byzantine greeks so much that allah had to rescue them (surah ar rum in the quran). Lol. Iranians are a very smart and have good manners here in west today. so much for marathon. Respect!!!
PoitierFrance 1 year ago
@PoitierFrance yeah i dont doubt that Iranians have good manners in the west today..i hope Iran will be a secular country one day free from that plague called Ahmadinejad...btw Greeks did win the battle lol..i was slightly ironic there ..peace my friend :)
ElectraofMaced0n 1 year ago
@Farshad86 Well no scholar actually takes those numbers seorisly but there is no counter evidence either so it has to reamin unknown but i however agree that 192 men is impossible. There are battles like mycale were the casulties was also high amongst the greeks.
PoitierFrance 1 year ago
@PoitierFrance What do we actually know...? there might have existed texts about this battle from the Persian side as well, but they were lost in time and then naturally newer generations never got to know the real truth.
I mean imagine if someone back in those days just casually (or perhaps intentionally) had crushed the 'Cyrus Cylinder' - the world would never have guessed that a Persian king was the very first ruler to actually establish the first charter of human rights!
Farshad86 1 year ago
I think it's a real shame that the statistic of this battle was more than likely fake, because people will take advantage, it sort of lends false credence to propaganda motives.
What we can assess with certainty is that The Persian Warriors who were part of this army, were trained in the art of war, they were trained killers, and the only thing on their mind while marching towards Greece was to inflict as much damage as they could upon their enemy.
Farshad86 1 year ago
so with that in regard, i'm in extreme doubt that the Greeks emerged out of this clash minus ONLY 192 men...no chance! Had the source estimated that some 3000-4000 Greeks lost their lifes that day - then i would have instantly trusted it.
Farshad86 1 year ago
@Farshad86
There are a number of reasons of why the greek could repell the persian invasion despite being a large invasion. Two main reason is, greek millitary was superior, as herodotus states "not in bravery or warlike spirit" but in armour and longer weapon, they were as naked men (persians) figting full armoured men (greeks) and the strategey, take battle of salamis as an example.
PoitierFrance 1 year ago
@PoitierFrance Yes, you have made some good points, but i personally don't view the two arguments you made as the main reason for their victory. I think the key lay in the tactics they used, much more so than armour and weaponry, including the fatal mistakes the Persian commander made. Persians should have won this battle, they had superior numbers and lots of cavalry while Greeks had none - the Persians could easily have utilized the double envelopment tactic on the open flat plains.
Farshad86 1 year ago
Keep in mind that the battle formation & weaponry of the Greek troops were not the same as Alexander's. Greek and Persian spears were approx of the same length. At this point in time, infantry from both sides were still fighting much more individually than the phalanx (box/square formations of later Macedonians armies). They simply would line up both their armies opposite each other and run straight into each other, which viewed from a birds eye perspective would look like a unrecognizable mess.
Farshad86 1 year ago
@Farshad86 the phalanx was actually existand and deployed,by all greek armies,including athenians and spartans,thats the whole point of the hoplite armour set. im not sure if the loxe phalanx was formed at the time which was an improvement,the macedonias used the loxe phalanx,which they just adopted from earlier greek battles.the athenian and spartan spears were 3 meters long,the sarissa,the macedonian spear was 4 to 6 meters long,the persians didnt have any solid formations,get your facts right
ShaNagmaImmuru 4 months ago
@Farshad86 I agree with you. Btw, the greco-persian wars didn't destory the pride of any of these two nations. Persian culture and history remained until the fall of the sassanid empire, which was the last native persian empire before being ruled by turks, mongols and arabs. I love persia, and don't let my name fool you, im not an european im a kurd and we are related to persians and medians. We once ruled over a large part of asia.
PoitierFrance 1 year ago
@Farshad86 poor brainwashed child
xristodoiiaspis 8 months ago
@xristodoiiaspis
we r all brainwashed ! SAD BUT TRUE
cleverlybideIt 6 months ago
@cleverlybideIt really no shit!!True but iranians need to learn history from others cause their mullahs teachers taught them wrong history.Do you know why there arent persian historians?
xristodoiiaspis 6 months ago
@xristodoiiaspis
herodotus once wrote : according to the persians best informed in history...
cleverlybideIt 6 months ago
@cleverlybideIt AT THE TIME HERODOTUS LIVED NOT NOW
gotsiliman 1 month ago
@Farshad86
My friend, History was written only by the Greeks. There were other great and older civilizations, but only the Greeks wrote History in a way that affected the future cultures. Now, for the battle, have in mind that all western-Asian people, the today muslims have never been good fighters. They had no faith, courage, battle tactics and of course, their brain works backwords !
giorgos456 1 year ago
@Farshad86 The numbers are correct and they appear throughout whole historiography and confirmed even by foreign historians with a small reduction. Unless you suggest that the Greeks of that age could not count and that historians 1000 years later could "guess" better. And allow me to add that your logic is false since you do the same mistake as the ...persians did. They counted the number of greeks in the battle and probably said its a 1/33 analogy and nevertheless they got massacred.
yperionas 9 months ago
@Farshad86 Check also on Demaratus, the greek advisor of Xerxes and consider carefully this: Demaratus said to Xerxes that the Spartans are the most fierceful army in Greece. And Xerxes told him that he had in his troops warriors that could combat and defeat more than one spartan at a time. And Demaratus answered: My great king you are right your warriors could fight against a Spartan or even a couple more BUT when they are all together they are unbeatable and so it was...
yperionas 9 months ago
@Farshad86 And finally something last and I will say no more: Aeschylus a greek tragedian that LIVED the Persian wars in one of his works called: The Persians, he states: '' And only we,contrary to the Barbarians, never count the enemy in battle.'' Those wars were not a video game (push a button and boom), those wars were won by the heart!...and many other things I cannot develop here. So believe what you want to believe and I believe what I want to believe...
yperionas 9 months ago
@Farshad86 they fought as phalanx and yes everything is possible in war not only back then but again in 1821 (Greek revolution) and even 1975 when Turks invade Cyprus 164 loses to 1000
elasolezito 8 months ago
@Farshad86 ...also it's not really EVERY Greek killed 33 persians maybe 1 maybe 50 maybe nothing cause he died
elasolezito 8 months ago
@elasolezito
oh well ! rofl !
cleverlybideIt 6 months ago
"When the Athenians arrive at Marathon and saw the Persian army, they were terrified; half of the Athenian generals didn't want to fight at all."
I'm taking notes
olabashanda 1 year ago
@olabashanda prototype of the french i guess :))
nino555 1 year ago
@ChaossHellas -- hey , where did you find or get this clip from ? because i tried looking it up on the History Channel and Google but i can't find it . All i need to know is who created it and when. Thank you (:
s2megz 1 year ago
But I'm very glad they did win : )
pestpleurisbloedkop 1 year ago
my intention was not to be disrespectful towards the brave soldiers who fought in WW2! all of them were heroes, let that be very clear. But what I meant was: a country like belgium, also didn't have a good military force and they hold out for 18 days! of course the Netherlands or Belgium couldn't hold the germans for long because their tactics, technology and military training was superb. Sometimes I wonder, when watching tv shows like generals at war, how could the allied forces possibly win :o
pestpleurisbloedkop 1 year ago
@pestpleurisbloedkop
A German soldier, fighting in the Italian Campaign, said it best: "those Americans, they attack day and night, and they never stop shooting!"
josephfrancisneri 1 year ago
I mean, no country always has a beautifull, glorious history forever: greece was eventually conquered by rome(however: greece conquered rome on cultural area)and rome was later conquered by barbarian tribes. For example: I'm dutch and I'm proud of our batavian heritage and our rebellion against the romans, and our golden age in 1600-1700.But I'm also fully aware of the darkside of our history and present: for examle massive slave trade and pussying out of WW2 after 5 days of fighting the germans
pestpleurisbloedkop 1 year ago 2
For a fellow country men you know little about WW2.
For once, we where forced to surrender by our gourverment and german threats to bomb our cities, our generals wanted too fight and where actually holding them at rotterdam and the "afsluitdijk". And I mean holding as in the germans where trowing away men power on it. Its then they threatend to bomb our cities if we didn't surrender that we did (our gourverment atleast) and germans still bombed rotterdam.
blabloempa 1 year ago
I mean geez, our old ford double deckers where actually holding off the far more advance german air force.
To say we pussied out is like freaking disrespectful for the people that did fight for their country those days and got freaking backstabbed by their own gourverment.
I takes alot of courage to freaking get on your bike with a old bolt rifle against a fully mobile and state of the art equiped army. And to even hold them off, thats pure willpower.
blabloempa 1 year ago
man, on every youtubefilm on ancient greek warfare I watch, there are persians/ iranians bitching about losing (or not) against ancient greece. Come on just face it, greece has a beautifull history just as the persians had in ancient times: you raped the roman legions with heavy armoured cataphracts! Isn't that something to be proud of? Just face it that greece had many heroic victories/ sacrifices against ancient persia and eventually made the persian empire fall!
pestpleurisbloedkop 1 year ago
@HandsomeStranger1963 you are right greece is nothing compared t what it was its people are mixed up threw time as almost any civilization did,but that's not negative the exchange of culture,knowledge . mabye not all greeks are "pure blood" indeed, but it's the spirit that counts. ancient values remain (unfortunatly threw few )but they exist. even threw romes,visigoths or the turks victories greece survived its language,history,part of the culture , for all greeks had and have love for freedom.
yougos1178bc 1 year ago
history says that the romans systematically and ruthlessly took entire greek communities and wiped them from existance.
the Visigoths finnished the job oin 393AD.
from 400s to 700s AD slavs settled through out what is laughingly called "greece" today.
in the 800s AD Leo III o0f byzantium further boldtered the populationb with albanian gapfillers.
in the 1920s AD the population of hellsass was increased by 30percent with christian turks(pontusians).
HISTORY and SCIENCE sSAY THAT GEORGEKOUL.
HandsomeStranger1963 1 year ago
...SlavoFyromianShit Bye bye...!!!!
Not to forget...
/watch?v=Q36tSlVBlvU
National Geographic maps of the Balkans states 1915 - 2006.
FYROM: HOW A LIE BECOME TRUE
ypruss 1 year ago
@HandsomeStranger1963
YOU ARE JUST BEING ENVIOUS !! i don't know why so much hatred!!
pontic greeks existed there (in pontos) from ancient times!! there is no such thing as christian turk!! turk invade greece for 4000 years so it would be silly if they would became suddenly christians,,there is more proofs that many greeks became muslims!!)))you are wring ,,your arguments are weak!!!
papcyrill 1 year ago
@papcyrill for 400 years just mistake !!
papcyrill 1 year ago
don't be hater ,,you just show us by your self that greeks are superior ,,because you wanna insult me calling me non greek!!
)) it is great actually!! and you are ??? i guess you are turk or albanian,,or vardashkan?:))
bad for you,,i am feeling you,,to be such inferior ,,never mind maybe in your nezt life you will be lucky,,and you will be born greek:)))
papcyrill 1 year ago
@HandsomeStranger1963 by the way romans loved greeks,,byzantine empire was roman empire but we all know it was a greek empire,,it was a gft of romans to the greeks!!:)))),,romans took everything from greeks !!!
be careful ,,you just said that romans committed genocide to greeks,,something that is not true!!
papcyrill 1 year ago 2
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get the rosse coloured galsses off fool.
what the romans didnt dop the Visigoths did. uyou live in the shadow of macedonia your not in any way related to the ancient greeks DNA tests have proven that.
the ancient macedonians and ancient greeks were NOT related DNA has proven that.
the modern macedonians are a 70 percent match to the ancient macedonoians DNA has proven that. i do no0t need to be carefull you pontusian refugee pretender.
you albanian gapfiller pretender.
HandsomeStranger1963 1 year ago
@HandsomeStranger1963 hahaha you are the pretenders,, you are a slavoalbanian race,,ancient macedonians were greeks,,,and greeks today are very related to the ancient greeks,,and especially to the byzantine greeks!! fool,,and idiot,,when you are sayin thet greeks are not related and you are related it is a nonsense,,
you are just a bunch of slavoalbanian pigs:)))),,face it!!! your propaganda is so silly that all europe loling with you!!!
papcyrill 1 year ago
@HandsomeStranger1963 KNEEL boy we are your masters !!!
you have nothing to o with ancients ,,if the greeks just disappeared like you said ,,and the is no greeks,,how it is possible you to have relation with ancients? lol,,
slavs that came to the balcans at 6 a.c,,second sort bulgarians,,same language,,same culture!!! you are the most mixed nation of the world!!
you are mix of turks,,greeks,,albanans,,serbs,bulgarians,,and gypsies!!!
papcyrill 1 year ago
fool
HandsomeStranger1963 1 year ago
@HandsomeStranger1963 HAahahah pontusian refugee pretender, albanian gapfiller pretender, AHAHAHAHAHAH WTF DOES THIS MEAN AHHAHAha sounds halarious
garyU6969 1 year ago
go read how the romans were the friends you dillusional little turks turd.
enter
"GREECE SPOILED CHILD OF EUROPE 1 "
into your ytou tube bar and read fool.
HandsomeStranger1963 1 year ago
IGENIA, a swiss DNA lab, has found that modern "greeks" have less than 5 percent in common with ancient greeks.
the tests also found that the ancient greeks and macedonians were NOT related.
DNA tests prove the macedoniansare 70percent the same as there ancient fathers.
greece is corrupt and bankrupt
. it is a failed state that relies on EU charity to survive.
HandsomeStranger1963 1 year ago
what language is at the bottom?
lostinerinworld 1 year ago
sadly there are no greeks left
HandsomeStranger1963 1 year ago
who say that?you?there are 19 million Greeks world wide!maybe not 100% in blood of ancient Greeks but they are Greeks! a 70% of the Greeks today,still have the same blood of ancients
georgekoul 1 year ago
ΝΕΝΙΚΗΚΑΜΕΝ !!!!!!!!!!!!
GODDIONYSUS 1 year ago
Not enough to make clear that WE are heare (was für eine scheiß Sprooch )Ich binn für en moment nit do weil ich jrad kotze muss!
zipcode61 1 year ago
My honour to man of Greece, forever!!!!
1234mirko 2 years ago 36
@1234mirko lol People couldn't defeat you military. But you are already defeated by the capitalists. :) Look at your economy, THEY own you. Bankers and big corporations. I heard you are even selling your islands and your schools. Pathetic ;)
omfg4000 1 year ago
@omfg4000 the idea to sell our islands was not our's but other's envious bastards like Germans wanting an oportunity to enjoy the Greek beauty and sun....but like Leonidas said:" COME AND GET THEM"
FOTARAStheGREEK 1 year ago
Command Decisions was THE best show....I was so disappointed when they discontinued it
mraim6164 2 years ago
proud to be greek proud to be Athenian!
IOANNIS2 2 years ago 3
This is SPARTAAAAA !!! .... lol
maddympkv 2 years ago
The bad thing for all barbarians is that noone recalls any of the aforementioned battles.
On the other hand it is Marathon or naval battle of Salamis or the last stand of 300 spartans in"Thermopyles" that will live in heart , mind , scripts, songs and movies of the western civilization for ever. HELLAS and Hellenic culture is immortal.
MrDragoon73 2 years ago
FOR THE GLORY OF GREECE
theokatsar 2 years ago 44
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"When the Athenians arrive at Marathon and saw the Persian army, they were terrified; half of the Athenian generals didn't want to fight at all."
I'm taking notes
olabashanda 1 year ago
I know I know id the persians hadn't LOST they would have won.
Boukephalos1 2 years ago
You are happy now? you ^said^ that you are a barbarian stupid man who attacking all the time and you are pround? as you can see we have deferend! And we are groups macedonians - athenians - myrmidons (spartans) - thacians etc , we play together only in defence except one time with alexander because if no1 teach you some good culture you would be the same barbarian until now... sorry for my english. cya
MrGorginos 2 years ago
@ KrzysiekWawrytko
the only one whos dreamin is you my friend
shahvishtasp 2 years ago
But bear in mind that no matter how many "tactical", "strategic", "decisive" and the like battles the Persian won they were finally routed and humiliated.
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what ???
the persians had an empire ruling most of the then known world, for nearly 1000 years (achemenians. parthians and sasanians)
and the greeks ??? for how long did the greeks rule the world ???
shahvishtasp 2 years ago
@shahvishtasp not too long but they left their mark for ever....
iwnas35 2 years ago
las imàgenes son espectaculares.Pero les agradecerìa que la traducciòn sea subtitulado en español.Gracias.
hugomireydereyes 2 years ago
Herodutus was a great historian. Of course he exaggereted numbers but keep in mind the before him there were only myths and legends. He shaped and started history as science as we know it today. Every professional historian will tell you that.
As for @SassanianPrince. You may live in the world of dreams. That is the way some people function. But bear in mind that no matter how many "tactical", "strategic", "decisive" and the like battles the Persian won they were finally routed and humiliated.
KrzysiekWawrytko 2 years ago
Yeah, too bad then the Acheamenid empire was completely crushed by Alexander, they didn't win a single battle against him LOL
AlexOfMacedonAOMH 2 years ago 3
First Gerco-Persian Wars
1- First conquest of Ionian cities in Anatolia (Cyrus) (Persian Victory)
2-Second conquest of Ionian cities in Greece (Cyrus) (Persian Victory)
3-Persian invasion of Mysia and Bithynia (Cyrus) (Persian Victory)
4-First Persian invasion of Tharce (Persian Victory)
5-Third Conquest of Ionian cities in Europe (Persian Victory)
6- Siege of Naxons ( Strategic Persian Victory)
7-Battle of Sardis (Persian Victory, Greeks Burned the city but were driven out)
SassanianPrince 2 years ago
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SassanianPrince 2 years ago
19-Battle of Chios (Persian Victory)
20- Battle of Lesbos (Persian Victory)
21-Battle of Tenedos (Persian Victory)
22-Second battle of Naxons (Persian Victory)
23-Battle of Cycades (Persian Victory)
24-Siege of Eretria (Persian Victory)
25- Battle of Marathon (First Greek Victory ever) LOL
SassanianPrince 2 years ago
yh but the gauls had large broad swords lik 4/5/6 feet long, those weapons can be desistating in the right/rong hands
dethrose1 2 years ago
Very nice! Thanks for posting!
NormanPProbbi 2 years ago
There is no real evidence that the persians wanted to carry on their expansion into Europe apart from Trace. This Persian attack on Athens was only a punitive expedition. As the Athenian started messing in the relations between the persians and the asia minor greeks.
mackmeck13 2 years ago
Fithipides run to Sparta (about 200 km). Stays there one day.Gets back to Athens.Tells the news.Runs to Marathon (45 kms).After 4-5 days of rest HE FIGHTS as a hoplite.After the victory RUNS BACK to Athens IN FULL WEBBING (about 30 kgs).When he arrives he cries "WE WON" . He dies at place
priestharis 2 years ago
Why did he have to run back to Athens after the victory? Couldn't he just walk? The battle was over right? There was no immediate danger... Or did i miss somethingt?
Troublesome2008 2 years ago
I was toldhe ran with nothin but his "shoes" and undergarment on when he ran to athens t say they won and his name is spelled "Phidippides"
tehmantpp 2 years ago
in the time of ancient greek golden age,western europe still in stone age.
banndell 2 years ago 2
pure truth
oblivion0011 2 years ago
winning, like the israeli way of war
VERGIS92 2 years ago
the results were>>1 dead greek...for 320 dead persians!!!!!! HOLY SHIT!!!!!
BLUEGALAZIOS 2 years ago
They'll have to face the fierce barbarians of Gaul, Germania, the Spaniards, the Carthaginian colonies in Spain, and to some extent, the British, should Xerxes attempt to conquer Western Europe.
avatarspirit57 2 years ago
Where's the evidence that the Persian cavalry were back onboard ship? Sounds more like supposition to me.
BigMrFirebird 2 years ago
if xeres will still alive and he saw wad happen to iraq n afghan he wuld be damn pissed off
MrBurberryMan 2 years ago 4
waste of time. Parts are missing from this clip.
najiaaa 2 years ago
Oh but I do got to admit this documentary is one sided ... They make the Persians sound like the Nazi's .. The persians like the greeks wanted to expand their lands but dont make it look like the greeks saved the world from persians lol
armanipure1 2 years ago 3
Don't think anyone is saying that, I think the point is that Western civilization would have developed in an entirely different manner than it did, had the Persian Empire expanded into Europe. The Persians had a rich culture as well. Unfortunately, many in the American media have taken to demonizing Iran.
-A Greek friend
turbulentt55 2 years ago 2
i cant agree more and much respect ..
armanipure1 2 years ago
Of course most documentaries about the greek-persian wars (and many others) are unbelievably one-sided. Most of the information about those battles are from greek or roman sources written decades or even hundreds of years after the events took place. There was no try at recording history objectively either and I once read, that greek and roman historiography must be read very very carefully, because a huge part of it follows a disturbingly dramatic and literary pattern.
fischkopp1234 2 years ago
totally truth its kinda like now days .. One sided stories
armanipure1 2 years ago
So try reading the Persian sources about the battle and see if they say they won...
BTW, the accounts of these were written by a guy called Herodotus, now called the father of history as a science.
But sure, try reading what Persians had to say about this, if you can find something.
KWSNMen 2 years ago
yes my friend greece saved the world of tyrany then.if you wont believe it but its true because if persians han assault all europe then we had been now undr their domination because they were about millions and milions of population...so a revolution was a joke...
petrosmangas 2 years ago
lol am not ur friend .. my friends aren't so stupid .. LOL The greeks didnt save the world from Tyranny ... One reason because The Persians are not tyrants and second The persians just wanted to prove a point to the greeks for startin a rebelion in asia minor .
armanipure1 2 years ago
IF u wanna debate I think u should do lil research ... This Documentary is based on greek historians and not on fact .. If the Persian empire did conquor the world .. the world would be a better place .. The persians were builders and were against slavery these are facts .. Although the persians had a rich and mightyl empire the lack the miltary tech the greeks had ..
armanipure1 2 years ago
yh but the persons had around 40,000 men comapred to the greeks 8,000 to 10,000. if the persons couldnt beat that smal force then they couldnt ever win
dethrose1 2 years ago
well the greeks are constantly at war alot more than the persians ... The persians are known for warfare . There aren't even armored like the greeks .. In the persian empire the whole region is a hot climate which makes it hard to armor in these conditions .. The Persians thought shire numbers would win a battle and dont use proper tatics like the greeks .. Romans and greeks are used to smaller forces but they are more effective in battle .. history shows this ..
armanipure1 2 years ago
SORRY I MEANT TO SAY the persians arent known for there warfare
armanipure1 2 years ago
LOL The Persians beat Greeks in other battles 2 not alot but some . The Persians took over many nations ...It was the largest empire of its time
armanipure1 2 years ago
Actually the Greeks had not been beaten by the Persian at the time of Marathon. And size is not always the measure of success because it was Persia's size that ultimately led to its downfall. Watch the third part, you should catch the section about how the Greeks have not been beat by the Persians at that point.
kringn 2 years ago
NOT TRUE ... Darius I conquored Thrace and Macedon .. Macedonians are greeks well i guess thats depends on your outlook on history .. Alexander was Macedonian ... Ionian were Greek colonies AGAIN took over by Persians and again in Egyptian Revolt aided by Greek navy another victory for the Persians and more battles but that is most of them .. Granted the Greeks won more and against amazing odds
armanipure1 2 years ago
This documentary is mostly based on Herodotus history and he is know to be the Father of Lies or some say the Father of History . You must remember history is wrote by the victor . The Greeks used propaganda to inspire and unite the Greek city states again Persian.. This documentary is cleary bias and based on speculation
armanipure1 2 years ago
Not sure where you are getting your information from, but here is a quotation from a historical website that has credibility. "He was also not the first writer to put together a long historical narrative in which the main thread is never completely lost. Although Herodtus demonstrated an amazing degree of neutrality, showing very little of the usual Greek bias..." Ill post the link below.
kringn 2 years ago
I didnt get the link .... "An amazing degree of neutraility " Have you read any of Herodotus texts? I have and for a person to make stories about Kings or battles they have never met or seen its clearly bias and unrealistic .
armanipure1 2 years ago
How does one write about persons character traits they have never met before an example Xerxes . Another thing during Xerxes's invasion of Greece , according to Herodotus the Persian forces were around 5 million . Every historian knows the truth to this lie real est is around 250 000 .. I found it hard to believe as I side with modern historians . Maybe you should check your sources
armanipure1 2 years ago
Maybe you should check your grammar first. Some of your sentences are hard to read. And if you think there were only 250,000, you need to think again. Your logic does not make sense. Under your first assumption most historians could not write about anything. You dont have to meet someone to write about their character. Example: Plenty of people write about past Presidents and political figures even though they have never met them. P.S.-I severally doubt you have read all of Herodutus.
kringn 2 years ago
I am a Classics Major and have only gotten half way through. And one more thing....Do you think every historian who writes about war, battles, or kings was at said event? Your logic is faulty.....just because Herodutus wasnt there doesnt make him unrealistic. Just as we read stories about the any conflict, we have to keep in mind who wrote it and that there is also another side. However, Herodutus, no matter what you say, was one of the most accurate historians of Greek history.
kringn 2 years ago
HAHAHAH Herodutos is also known as the father of lies youngin .. I never said ive read all of his texts only one book.
armanipure1 2 years ago
PS .. I know for a large chunk of his STORIES are based on actually events but only exaggerated and changed to make the event more interesting .
armanipure1 2 years ago
@armanipure1 I give up. Your a lost case. BTW your ad hominem logical phallacy is amazing. And please learn how to spell Herodotus! -us not os....its not a thrid declension masculine noun....
kringn 2 years ago
OKAY and your a winner .. Next time bring your tool box. Yes thats maybe the only thing you got on me spelling ..
armanipure1 2 years ago
LOL maybe u should learn to read then .. The Persians never built a army that size .. My logic makes complete sense ... Every historic event is based on ancient text ,scupltures and historians. If you were not at the battle then the base of the story is created by anothers perception of what happened. Real historians have facts and stories tellers fabricate the facts
armanipure1 2 years ago
yh but the romans didnt use small forces. they had fielded armies up2 around 100,000 , up2 150,000
dethrose1 2 years ago
lol the largest roman army was 80,000 at the battle of canae lol there the hell u learn ur history lol
armanipure1 2 years ago
nothing worse than obvious lie by people who claim to serve science and truth!
Shirio77 2 years ago
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Lots of propaganda and distortion of facts!
Shirio77 2 years ago
3:12...........good policy! take the fight to the enemy! never be boxed up in a walled town, it could have easily been a death trap!! mobility is the key to success!
acerb45666555 2 years ago
hey greg on emore thing and this one is reaally cool. an ancient mosaic that depicts Alexander the Great and the persians Darious as well. go to google images and search
- alexander mosaic -
The Truth will set you free greg.
MAKTRUTH 2 years ago
but let me guess...your answer will be that the ancient Greeks lied when they made those drawings right ?
ha ha ha !! whats the matter greg the truth offends you ?
MAKTRUTH 2 years ago 2
And for being less stupid, greggysr, say us in wich moment did you see the "turban" ??? Give us the timing if you want to be "exact"...
Your way to express yourself give me the impression that you are a muslim saying bullshit in any place in any moment.
Have something else to say about this docimantery exeptly your "costume precisions"... You muslim moron...
newdorien 2 years ago