The logical answer would be to do it, but if I were there faced with that decision, I believe that my emotions would get in the way, and I seriously doubt that I would be able to go through with it, even though it would be the (at least to me) the right thing to do.
That was good, very good. The point is that euthanasia is a choice; just not an easy one. I have a degenerative condition, so consider euthanasia a great deal. But ultimately, a very bitter sweet choice. Thanks for this post - it is all about choice - but not one which we are supposed to have.
yes that is a concern but don't killers usually have a motive for killing they won't just kill anyone person especially using drugs.And I believe they do have a physician doctor there to determine whether one is suitable or at the right state mind to make such a decision.
My only concern with euthanasia is that without boundries people may use it as an excuse to get away with murder. For example: "Angels of death" who kill a dying person without the person's consent or killing a child due to deformities, whatever.
They should make it to where we have the option of putting it in our wills or discuss it with a doctor or something. Every law has to have boundries to an extant.
but at the same time, it's not my right to tell someone how to end their life.
Now for suicidal people who are perfectly healthy and looking for an easy way out or someone who can't make decisions such as a child or something, I believe it's wrong.
There should definatly be boundries, but I do support euthanasia 100% and if able will have it as an option at the end of my life even though I'll try to die naturally.
I know I don't want to be a vegetable or have an undignified death so..
Hmm that's a hard question to answer. I'd want to, but at the same time, I dunno if I could physically or emotionally do it. I'd comfort them as much as possible, but I guess it's one of those things that you can't really answer accurately unless you're in that situation.
I know that if in that situation, I'd hope that my best friend would do that for me, but would understand if they couldn't because that's quite a heavy cross to carry.
I am 100% Christian and believe that life is sacred
Euthanasia has many levels, but I believe some of these levels are compassionate and some aren't. I believe its about the quality of life towards their death. I don't believe we should kill as I also do not think that is a burden anothr person should have to bear but we can LET people die and do everything in our power to make it as painfree as possible. I can see how out of love someone could do that but I think that they still have to the conviction to face the consequences of the law.
you didn't mention if there was any medic around to possibly see if they could save them, but assuming for the "what if" that it was very obvious that this wasn't an injury you recover from...you'd be a monster for NOT ending their suffering. You have to help them.
that's a little strong KingHeathen. You should at least want to help them though. Not everyone is actually strong enough to shoot their best friend in the head, or hit the button on their grandfather in a Kevorkian type situation. Asking people to allow euthanasia as an options, and asking them to actively take part in it, are two different things.
well of course the wording can be taken further that the intended meaning. What I was saying is that it would be the only reasonable thing to do. Even to say "I'm not strong enough to do it" is still saying "I'm so weak that I'd prefer they suffered than to do what is necessary" (symbolically of course) The comment was as a retort to the notion that you'd be a monster if you did it. 500 character limit ya know.
In your opinion. It doesn't seem the only reasonable thing to me. And I don't even know it's about strength, but circumstance, what feels appropriate to the individual. Help comes in more than one form. There is a great danger in the assumption 'one size fits all'.
Loreleila, as I said, there are a few things he didn't mention in scenario that could be considered, but the HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION that we are looking at is if the two options are "suffer a slow painful death" or "end the suffering with a quick death"...don't over analyze it, that misses the point.
I'm not sure why not agreeing with you might be construed as overanalysis. I gave my response based upon my own preferences and feelings, rather than any analysis at all. Disagreeing with you is not automatically wrong I assume.
Then why reply to me if you weren't talking to me about what I'd said? Doesn't interaction involve talking WITH someone, exploring something other than your own pov?
I didn't say I wasn't TALKING to you...you responded to ME and with your comments it appeared that I didn't make MYSELF clear in what I meant...so I was trying to CLARIFY my statement for you. My point to you was that he was trying to set up a hypothetical situation that removed all other options and wanted to know what you would pick...in other words "a last case scenario". Your comment suggested you'd want to find other options. Thus the clarification I was trying to make to you.
No, I wasn't looking for other options, but that aside, this is fascinating, because it strikes me (though I really don't know you) that we are both reasonable and honourable people who seek to communicate well; yet have comprehensively failed to do so. Neither of us to blame, but I like the fact we have still sought to achieve that. :) I might even subscribe to you and see if it is a one off or a permananent state of affairs. lol
it is interesting...I think the biggest problem is that we are communicating through text...a lot gets lost when you are dealing with an emotional topic such as this when it isn't face to face. Would you agree?
I sure would just watching you guys go back and forth...I wish I had a dollar for every email I've gotten that didn't mean what I thought it meant! I've nearly lost jobs over misunderstanding written messages.
Hopeless case? My friend? In agony? Absolutely I would "help him". I would grieve his passing, but I would be able to sleep at night, knowing that I had done "the right thing, the courageous thing, the empathetic thing."
Euthanasia should be legal certainly for the terminally ill that are in desperate pain. Yes, pain can be regulated with morphine to a point but who wants to lay in a bed for weeks waiting to die until the pain is more than the morphine can handle and you're out of your wits. The longer your living the higher the hospital bill will be. Do Not Resuscitate (DNR) used to be illegal...
The fight against euthanasia is part of the Christian belief in fear and pain being used to persuade people while healthy as well as when they are most vulnerable. The poor cannot afford to be kept comfortable...
This is a really hard question for me, because I find it impossible to imagine myself on a battlefield. However, I don't think I could take someones life in that way, even if it saved them pain for a short while. I would happily lie holding them,talking with them, I would gladly be drenched in their blood, comfort them. In other scenarios, terminal illness for example, it would be a different story.
Quite a tricky subject. I don't think I could do it...not because I fail to be sympathetic but because I physically would just be frozen. I wouldn't just walk away though. I'd try to whatever I could.
stupid, well try to help and keep him a life idiot, not my decision that he been shoot ,
but if i know that i cant keep him a life i will for sure be next to him until my lord decidses to take him from this life.
WhiteEagle508 6 months ago
The logical answer would be to do it, but if I were there faced with that decision, I believe that my emotions would get in the way, and I seriously doubt that I would be able to go through with it, even though it would be the (at least to me) the right thing to do.
batmanpronz 1 year ago
That was good, very good. The point is that euthanasia is a choice; just not an easy one. I have a degenerative condition, so consider euthanasia a great deal. But ultimately, a very bitter sweet choice. Thanks for this post - it is all about choice - but not one which we are supposed to have.
hinkyponky 1 year ago
yes that is a concern but don't killers usually have a motive for killing they won't just kill anyone person especially using drugs.And I believe they do have a physician doctor there to determine whether one is suitable or at the right state mind to make such a decision.
sheehankatexoxo 2 years ago
My only concern with euthanasia is that without boundries people may use it as an excuse to get away with murder. For example: "Angels of death" who kill a dying person without the person's consent or killing a child due to deformities, whatever.
They should make it to where we have the option of putting it in our wills or discuss it with a doctor or something. Every law has to have boundries to an extant.
GeminiAuntie 2 years ago
but at the same time, it's not my right to tell someone how to end their life.
Now for suicidal people who are perfectly healthy and looking for an easy way out or someone who can't make decisions such as a child or something, I believe it's wrong.
There should definatly be boundries, but I do support euthanasia 100% and if able will have it as an option at the end of my life even though I'll try to die naturally.
I know I don't want to be a vegetable or have an undignified death so..
GeminiAuntie 2 years ago
Hmm that's a hard question to answer. I'd want to, but at the same time, I dunno if I could physically or emotionally do it. I'd comfort them as much as possible, but I guess it's one of those things that you can't really answer accurately unless you're in that situation.
I know that if in that situation, I'd hope that my best friend would do that for me, but would understand if they couldn't because that's quite a heavy cross to carry.
I am 100% Christian and believe that life is sacred
GeminiAuntie 2 years ago
i would do it in a SECOND !!!
abhimanyu5 2 years ago
I would kill them without question
it would be selfish of me not to
plasterbricks 2 years ago
Personally, id ask them to clarify "Help me".
Help me die?
Help me overcome my pain?
Help me up?
If they know they're done what kind of help would they ask for, what kind of help would they expect someone to try and give them?
Orygyn 3 years ago
Euthanasia has many levels, but I believe some of these levels are compassionate and some aren't. I believe its about the quality of life towards their death. I don't believe we should kill as I also do not think that is a burden anothr person should have to bear but we can LET people die and do everything in our power to make it as painfree as possible. I can see how out of love someone could do that but I think that they still have to the conviction to face the consequences of the law.
mtb2004uk 4 years ago
you didn't mention if there was any medic around to possibly see if they could save them, but assuming for the "what if" that it was very obvious that this wasn't an injury you recover from...you'd be a monster for NOT ending their suffering. You have to help them.
Thanks for the response.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
"you'd be a monster for NOT ending their suffering"...some are stronger than others. I
would...maybe others couldn't...it just isn't that simple, is it? Thanks for the vid!
grumpychuck 4 years ago
that's a little strong KingHeathen. You should at least want to help them though. Not everyone is actually strong enough to shoot their best friend in the head, or hit the button on their grandfather in a Kevorkian type situation. Asking people to allow euthanasia as an options, and asking them to actively take part in it, are two different things.
BernierCR42 4 years ago
well of course the wording can be taken further that the intended meaning. What I was saying is that it would be the only reasonable thing to do. Even to say "I'm not strong enough to do it" is still saying "I'm so weak that I'd prefer they suffered than to do what is necessary" (symbolically of course) The comment was as a retort to the notion that you'd be a monster if you did it. 500 character limit ya know.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
In your opinion. It doesn't seem the only reasonable thing to me. And I don't even know it's about strength, but circumstance, what feels appropriate to the individual. Help comes in more than one form. There is a great danger in the assumption 'one size fits all'.
Loreleila 4 years ago
Loreleila, as I said, there are a few things he didn't mention in scenario that could be considered, but the HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION that we are looking at is if the two options are "suffer a slow painful death" or "end the suffering with a quick death"...don't over analyze it, that misses the point.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
I'm not sure why not agreeing with you might be construed as overanalysis. I gave my response based upon my own preferences and feelings, rather than any analysis at all. Disagreeing with you is not automatically wrong I assume.
Loreleila 4 years ago
didn't say you were...again, you are reading into what I'm saying. I was supporting MY opinions and statements and not commenting on yours at all.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
Then why reply to me if you weren't talking to me about what I'd said? Doesn't interaction involve talking WITH someone, exploring something other than your own pov?
Loreleila 4 years ago
I didn't say I wasn't TALKING to you...you responded to ME and with your comments it appeared that I didn't make MYSELF clear in what I meant...so I was trying to CLARIFY my statement for you. My point to you was that he was trying to set up a hypothetical situation that removed all other options and wanted to know what you would pick...in other words "a last case scenario". Your comment suggested you'd want to find other options. Thus the clarification I was trying to make to you.
KingHeathen 4 years ago
No, I wasn't looking for other options, but that aside, this is fascinating, because it strikes me (though I really don't know you) that we are both reasonable and honourable people who seek to communicate well; yet have comprehensively failed to do so. Neither of us to blame, but I like the fact we have still sought to achieve that. :) I might even subscribe to you and see if it is a one off or a permananent state of affairs. lol
Loreleila 4 years ago
it is interesting...I think the biggest problem is that we are communicating through text...a lot gets lost when you are dealing with an emotional topic such as this when it isn't face to face. Would you agree?
KingHeathen 4 years ago
I sure would just watching you guys go back and forth...I wish I had a dollar for every email I've gotten that didn't mean what I thought it meant! I've nearly lost jobs over misunderstanding written messages.
grumpychuck 4 years ago
Yes, I'd agree. Communication at last. :)
Loreleila 4 years ago
I would help my friend. And I would hope, if our situations were reversed, my friend would help me in the same way.
morsec0de 4 years ago
Hopeless case? My friend? In agony? Absolutely I would "help him". I would grieve his passing, but I would be able to sleep at night, knowing that I had done "the right thing, the courageous thing, the empathetic thing."
8journey8 4 years ago
We euthanize beloved pets when we know they are suffering and nothing can be done all the time and call it, "humane."
zoxovox 4 years ago
Euthanasia should be legal certainly for the terminally ill that are in desperate pain. Yes, pain can be regulated with morphine to a point but who wants to lay in a bed for weeks waiting to die until the pain is more than the morphine can handle and you're out of your wits. The longer your living the higher the hospital bill will be. Do Not Resuscitate (DNR) used to be illegal...
zoxovox 4 years ago
The fight against euthanasia is part of the Christian belief in fear and pain being used to persuade people while healthy as well as when they are most vulnerable. The poor cannot afford to be kept comfortable...
zoxovox 4 years ago
Really good point and calls to question what would be ethical.
qiranger 4 years ago
This is a really hard question for me, because I find it impossible to imagine myself on a battlefield. However, I don't think I could take someones life in that way, even if it saved them pain for a short while. I would happily lie holding them,talking with them, I would gladly be drenched in their blood, comfort them. In other scenarios, terminal illness for example, it would be a different story.
Loreleila 4 years ago
Quite a tricky subject. I don't think I could do it...not because I fail to be sympathetic but because I physically would just be frozen. I wouldn't just walk away though. I'd try to whatever I could.
TheEdge012 4 years ago
Outstanding presentation Chuck! God Bless!
TheComebackKid1973 4 years ago
Doing the moral thing sometimes really takes guts. I hope I would help them and that if needed they would help me.
SSanf 4 years ago