Simply put, this is the culmination of 1000 years of musical development - Bach, of course, knew this. He knew who he was, and where he was, and how he fit into the cosmos. Glory be to God!
ben bu müzikte üçerli bölünmeleri duymak istiyorum. bazı şefler özellikle bas partisini yuvarlıyorlar, bach sanki bir dokuyu almış çeke çeke uzatmış esnetmiş, minimalizmi andıran bir müzik yazmış. richter'in kaydını dinlerseniz dediğim şeyi anlayacaksınız. barok müzik yorum konusunda insiyatif gerektirir fakat mantık çerçevesinde. müzik 4 zamanlı olmasına rağmen üçerli olmasının bu tür müziklerde çok önemli bir estetiği vardır. hele bas partisinde hareket, çok daha önemli anlamlar barındırır.
You are right: the Bach's music can't be improved anymore. In that sense, it's not earthly, since nothng on Earth is perfect. It comes straight from Heaven.
You are right: the Bach's music can't be improved anymore. In that sense, it's not earthly, since nothng on Earth is perfect. It comes straight from Heaven.
The Xmas card images not withstanding, pure mud--trying to go too fast with too large an ensemble. Herding musical cats. Check out the Herreweghe on YouTube: EhjJAJdmKOE, if you want to hear the real deal.
@DonVueltaMorales I actually like the tempo. makes long melodic and harmonic lines easier to follow. Plus, the ensemble is, if at all, not much larger than the one Herreweghe uses (and he has no boy soprani, shame on him! ;-) ). No-one's really sure as to how large Bach's ensembles were anyway, some say he preferred exceptionally large ensembles.
@VictorMLudwig I don't care about the size of Bach's (desired) chorus. The size of this chorus is just unmanageable. There was an old Karl Böhm broadcast from the mid-70s that worked well with hundreds of singers and instrumentalists. One merely needs to take the tempo more slowly. Listen to this carefully and you'll hear that it's muddy.
@DonVueltaMorales I just listeed to the Herreweghe rendition and it is very clear. However, I wonder how much of the "muddiness" is due to the recording/upload quality and not Goodman's ensemble?
@sparch3 Plus the sopranos begin flat. The intonation is off among the voices. That's what's causing some of the sloppiness. Also, you can't expect a large ensemble (with kids) to react as sharply as a small ensemble (with professionals). I remember seeing a Karl Böhm video of this broadcast in the US during the 1970s. It was a Mahler-sized group. He did the opening chorus slowly and solemnly. Very different, very grand, but it was beautiful in its Romantic way. Mendelssohn would have loved it.
If all men started life as boy sopranos singing Bach, would this be a better world?Do you know how to create a video response? If all the world sang the music of Bach, would this be a better world?
WOW,this wonderful pics really touching me ,especially when i read Revelation 5,this is surely the song for the lamb been slain,thank you Bach, always so touching.
I am not certain if there is a God, it is said that God is eternal, but so is this music, maybe there is a connection. Each time I listen to this I am transported somewhere beyond.....
@jjpetkusiii I heard somewhere that bach was asked who he admired.He said that if he could be like handel that would be wonderful.Great compliment from one master to another!
Twentyfive years ago, as a very young boy, I sang this peace in one of the oldest churches of Holland. It's wonderful to hear this piece again... Brings back so many memories... Thanks!!!!!!
So wonderful to hear (and see) this again. It is always refreshing after so long and a little like renewing or also refreshing one's faith all over again. Thank you so much.
He was a deep faith man and his faith in Jesus Christ was doubtless the source of his inspiration . We shouldn’t ignore the religious finalities of the sacred art (music enclosed) and the spiritual reaction it arouses into the spectators.
@IOVANNIG I sang this several years ago and I can remember that is a piece for two choruses singing at a time. Our National synphonic Choir was about 100 persons and so we had to divide in two for the singing of this precious oratorio. I agree, The source of Bach inspiration is the most important: our Lord Jesus Christ.
It takes skill to have two orchestras, two choirs, a flowing melody with a chorale so elegantly placed above it all work perfectly! That is the genius of the melodies structure of Bach, let alone all the other features such as Harmony which too are handled with perfection!
That is wonderful. Simply wonderful. Completely breathtaking. It's more than music here, this musicians and choristers pay a tribute to Bach's genius.
What a dramatic effect he brings with these complex,dark and rare harmonies! Surpassing Handel and every other composer! I like the opening chorus of St.John passion a little more than this! Heaven must have felt something when this music first echoed in the earth!
Qué maravilla, es tan grande y majestuoso, pero tan cercano a la vez.... ¿Cómo se le puede ocurrir a alguien esta composición? Supongo que hay que tener mucha fe... Estuve escuchando esta obra interpretada por The King's Consort en Cuenca (España), y fue absolutamente genial, magistral. ¡Viva Bach!
A lo largo de la historia de la música, muy poca gente como Bach, Haendel, Beethoven o Mozart consiguen describir la Gloria de Dios. La Pasión segun San Mateo de Bach es un obra inmesa, monumental, magestuosa y consigue alabar la grandeza del Creador y de su palabra. La Pasión segun San Juan es menos conocida y no tan grandilocuente. Sin embargo es de caracter más íntimo y de acercamiento personal a Dios. La Pasión de Cristo es la obra cumbre de la imbecilidad y la miseria humana.
The conductor is Stephen Cleobury, not Roy Goodman. Choir of King's College, Cambridge. The orchestra is the Brandenburg Consort, whose leader is Roy Gooman.
Astrónomo francés Baland dijo a su amigo: "Con mi telescopio he buscado todo el universo y no encontrar a Dios en cualquier lugar, y él respondió:" Hoy he abierto mi reloj y vio que relojero " ...
Vivimos, respiramos y existe en Dios!
Gracias, Señor Jesucristo, que murió por mí!
Eterna gloria y honor y adoración al Señor del universo, Padre, Hijo y Espíritu Santo!!!!!!!!!
well Bach believe in God whether u wanted him too or not, And thats His belief and human right to believe or not to. Man hasn't proven or disproven the Existence of God, Yet God's handiwork is in the trees, atom, music and yes in our Genius and minds,. Man cannot prove where things begin or end no more than he can predict when Life leave his or her body, so the Arguements continue,
Strongsad38001: There is more to Bach than just talent. Bach's music invites us to open ourselves to the beauty and tragedy of existence. It invites us to truly enter a new world, to re-adjust our focus on compassion and sincerity, and to start dealing with the inevitability of death. It talks to us through the centuries, in a language that everybody can understand.
The incomplete opening bar is disappointing. That's the bit that sends the shiver down my spine and it's missing here,.
Ex Cathedra have published their Good Friday performance from the Symphony Hall (Brum UK) and I'm looking forward to hearing the cds because I was too near to the stage then
Esta música terrenal es simplemente divina.Exponente del máximo nivel de creación de la mente humana.Serviría para dejarla indeterminadamente flotando en el éter,cuando todo ésto termine,como ejemplo de lo que fuimos capaces de construir.¡Templo sonoro de eterna belleza!.
La perfeccion de las composiciones de Bach estan en una esfera superior a varios otros compositores de renombre, aparte de producir efectos directos sobre la mente y el cuerpo tambien sobre las cosas, Bach no hacia musica, sino verdaderas atmosferas materializadas en el medio llamado musica.
one of the rare occasions on which I stop bumping 50 cent and just dig this shit untill it ends. this shit is dope. I dont care if the guys are all dressed in gowns.
Es definitivamwente una de las piezas mas hermosas de la pasión según San Mateo, la grandeza musical de Bach, el precursor de Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, entre otros, es inimiginable, simplemente celestial.
Maybe I'm a dimwitted thickhead for believing my senses and my intuition when they tell me that there is a God, but what great reasons Bach has given us to believe, and I wouldn't put stock in any formal system where this was not an axiom. :)
Maybe I'm a dimwitted thickhead for believing my senses and my intuition when they tell me that there is a God, but what great reasons Bach has given us to believe, and I wouldn't put stock in any formal system where this was not an axiom. :)
You make it sound like Bach woke up one day and said to himself, "I think I'm going to write some Passion music to give pagans great reasons to believe."
But he didn't write it for any purpose other than to serve as PART of the music for the Good Friday vespers services at the St. Thomas and St. Nicolai churches in Leipzig. The reason it's in 2 parts, was not for a concert intermission or potty break, but to allow for strategic insertion of a related 1 hour sermon.
Pow! "I always had a distaste for your comments...now I understand why..."
Pow!: "You cannot see past the absolutely basic".
In other words, if I make comments that clash with your reaction to the music, this must surely indicate that I "cannot see past the absolutely basic", right?
No Bach was not exceptionally pious for writing Church music, but neither are you exceptionally educated for deriding those who find it the most sublime of church music! He had a gift, and that gift has helped many of us to feel more vividly that which the music is describing. For, whatever its setting, the music was *about* the Passion, and it does a hell of a job conveying all the intensity of this event. It makes it real. Romanticism is a natural reaction to incredible art.
Feeling like taking another swing, are you? What does Bach's relative piety have to do with your opinion of my education? Why juxtapose those ideas? One has nothing to do with the other.
I never said Bach didn't have a gift, nor did I deride anyone for appreciating his music.
You're off topic, which is did Bach write this to give pagans good reasons to believe.
Have you ever read the story of Prince Vladimir and his religion? He sent out his emissaries to determine which was the true faith by watching all of the nations at prayer. When they came to Constantinople, they were so taken aback by the glory of Byzantine worship, they reported that "God truly dwells among these men". Consequently, the Prince converted himself and his kingdom. Thus the birth of the Russian Orthodox Church.
That story about the reason for Vladimir's conversion to Christianity is as believable as the story of Constantine's conversion to Christianity after having had a vision of the cross.
A more likely explanation for Vladimir's conversion is that he sought a Byzantine alliance.
Rulers often changed religion for political reasons.
While Bach was employed in Leipzig, the Elector of Saxony, a Lutheran stronghold which included Leipzig, became Catholic so he could be elected King in Poland.
Now, the point of that story. The reason that the Byzantines did any of those things which Vladimir's men saw was not to convert pagans such as those emissaries, but to fulfill their own devotion to God. It didn't need to be intended for such an effect to have the effect that it did - converting the entire nation of Russia. Why should Bach have to have intended to convert pagans in order to do so? Why should he need to have wanted to give good reasons for belief if he does so anyway?
So, you have created a false dilemma. By your reasoning, Bach can only be a good reason for belief (for I never asserted else) if he intended to be. Then you seek to determine whether or not he did in order to test the validity of my assertion. Yet the question does not actually matter. Whether or not he intended his music to be such a ground for belief is irrelevant. It is, despite or because of his intention, whatever the resolution to your dilemma may be.
You're the only one on a mission to prove something.
I never set out to prove anything.
I was just throwing cold water in your face to rouse your from your romantic ecstasy so I could remind you of the sole reason this Passion was written: to fit the liturgy
of Leipzig's St. Thomas and St. Nicholas churches. It's the same reason he reworked someone else's St. Mark Passion.
And in so doing you willfully sought to depreciate a masterwork of art in the eyes of its beholder. You show yourself deliberately malicious.
Your further comments show a pronounced confontationalism, especially as the literal truth of my example has no bearing on its cogency (or do you not accept mythological instance, either?).
I have had since childhood a severe distaste for your namesake, and I have grown sick and distasteful of your comments. Message me no further. Waste of time.
You react to Bach's passion music as though it's the gospel according to Bach, "giving us great reasons to believe." Fine.
I merely reminded you of it's original liturgical context.
As for the point you tried to make with the story, I never suggested you can't have the reaction you have unless Bach intended it. I only pointed out he didn't intend it.
(Similarly, Jesus, a devout Jew, didn't intend to "save" non-Jews. Yet Christians believe he did. Talk about unintended reactions!)
I haven't sought to do anything but respond constructively to your comments,
even when you've resorted to childish ad hominem.
There was nothing confrontational in my comments on your example.
Your example was much more interesting than your very obvious point, which is simply that a listener's reaction may be unrelated to the composer's intent.
As for your request that I message you no further, you should realize that I haven't been messaging you at all.
I've only been replying to comments you've posted in a forum open to all UTube customers.
UTube notifies you of replies to your comments.
If you want UTube to stop notifying you about replies to your comments, perhaps should consider deleting your UTube account and/or refraining from posting comments.
Gods, get a life. Do you expect other people to respond on my behalf? No, for we are having the discourse, and as such your messages are for me. You are having a discussion with me in the context of a YouTube forum; the fact that the public can view it makes your messages no less directed at me, and my request no less in earnest.
The very fact that you have chosen to *dispute the fact that you've been talking to me* is a wonderful testament to your character visible "to all UTube customers".
Now, in your comments has always been an underlying attack on me ad hominem. By seeking to "remind" me of the piece's original context, you assume that I did not understand it. Although I nowhere and nowise implied such in my comments, you seemed bent to convince me that the piece was not, as you thought I thought, originally intended for a concert setting. Where have I ever said that? How am I supposed to engage in discourse with a man who doesn't know what I have and have not said?
So, what did I say? I said that, simpleminded as it may sound, the power of this music which Bach wrote, for whatever purpose and context he did, has always convinced me strongly of the truth of its text, making it truly present for me emotionally. Context or composer's intent notwithstanding.
Also, "to write liturgical music" is not really an intention anyway. It is an action. I'm sure that liturgical reformists write similar pieces with very different intentions than, say, Palestrina.
Therefore, in the course of this entire conversation, in no message have you really addressed what I was saying. You've assumed that my point was borne on ignorance, ridden this assumption into a realm of unnecessary points, ceaseless and needless nitpicking, and then wonder why I'm not debating what you've said. Perhaps it's because an encyclopedic statement of facts has absolutely no bearing on a personal appreciation of a piece, if the interpretation falls within them, which mine does.
Oh, you mean you weren't already done replying to me when you wrote "I have grown sick and distasteful of your comments. Message me no further. Waste of time"?
Enjoy the music, if you can.
Nothing anyone posts can stop you.
It's only your hard need for personal vindication, having the last word, getting your licks in, and appearing to be in control that might distract you.
I'm done replying to you. You seem to have nothing to offer but a tiresome personal agenda.
I already knew what you were trying to say. I just didn't find it that interesting.
That's why I kept trying to steer the discussion to other areas.
But even now you display the hard need for personal vindication.
It's much more interesting to consider why after Bach's death his passion music ceased to be performed in Leipzig, even though his motets continued to be performed there more than 30 years later, in Mozart's time.
I understood from the get go what you you meant when you commented, "What great reasons Bach has given us to believe [in God]".
And I addressed your comment in my very 1st reply, which began "You make it sound like Bach woke up one day..."
You just didn't like what I said.
I assumed your comment was borne out of enthusiam for the piece. But since you seem to already believe in "God", it's sounds oddly preachy for you to proclaim "what great reasons Bach gives us to believe [in God]."
I had to introduce other "points" to try to change the subject!
I never "wondered" why you didn't debate my "points" because it was clear you were only interested in pursuing you own pet "point."
I never made "an encyclopedic statement of facts." That is just another of your transparent attempts at ad hominem.
"...no bearing on personal appreciation..."? How naive. There's more to understanding Bach's passion settings than just hearing an historically informed "interpretation".
I've no doubt that's what you meant to say, and I've never disputed you're right to feel that way.
The intent "to write liturgical music" is surely an intention. The act of writing it is the fulfillment of the intention.
I spoke of Bach's intent to write passion music to fit Leipzig traditions and liturgy. The result might have been different had he written passion music for, say, the Hamburg churches. E.g., different choice of hymns, poetic texts, structure.
this is divine music!
Caucer 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
can anybody tell me, what church is it?
Tenorlyrico89 4 weeks ago
in my opinion this opera is the most complex symphonical music ever made....the peak.
sebymaxim86 1 month ago
one thing I really wish I'd in my life is to sing in such a choir - too bad I broke my voice years ago
gone11241 2 months ago
this is wonderful
zweihander881 3 months ago in playlist Más vídeos de Bacholoji
This is last form of the art
astronomo16 3 months ago
Simply put, this is the culmination of 1000 years of musical development - Bach, of course, knew this. He knew who he was, and where he was, and how he fit into the cosmos. Glory be to God!
clucaspik 3 months ago
Großartig !!
NewRavenhunter 4 months ago
THANKS FOR JOHANN!
MsDhamma 4 months ago
ben bu müzikte üçerli bölünmeleri duymak istiyorum. bazı şefler özellikle bas partisini yuvarlıyorlar, bach sanki bir dokuyu almış çeke çeke uzatmış esnetmiş, minimalizmi andıran bir müzik yazmış. richter'in kaydını dinlerseniz dediğim şeyi anlayacaksınız. barok müzik yorum konusunda insiyatif gerektirir fakat mantık çerçevesinde. müzik 4 zamanlı olmasına rağmen üçerli olmasının bu tür müziklerde çok önemli bir estetiği vardır. hele bas partisinde hareket, çok daha önemli anlamlar barındırır.
geberotisabi 4 months ago in playlist Bach
@geberotisabi Bas partisini yuvarluyorlar derken?
Neonalfax 1 month ago
part of my mind & heart.....................
MsDhamma 5 months ago
music was more advanced back then.
rurun 5 months ago 17
@rurun
A shame, but it is true.
jsnauwaert 3 months ago
@rurun
true and fuck our lives
juwmha 1 month ago
Heavenly!
luzsorial 6 months ago
thank you for posting!
lapaloma200711 6 months ago
Grandioso Bach. Sublime, eccellente esecuzione.
80216ify 6 months ago
Thanks Bach, you were the greatest composer
UrbanVivaldi 7 months ago 2
MAJESTUOSIDAD ABSOLUTA ..............
akenathon24 8 months ago
@akenathon24 Majestuosidad absoluta... Oh, my god!!!
elperritopiloto 7 months ago
Bach's Matthaeus Passion brings me to tears...Wonderful choir and interpretation by Roy Goodman
kapost01 8 months ago
You just can't improve on Bach's choral music, it's wondrous.
barncactus47 9 months ago
@barncactus47
You are right: the Bach's music can't be improved anymore. In that sense, it's not earthly, since nothng on Earth is perfect. It comes straight from Heaven.
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@barncactus47
You are right: the Bach's music can't be improved anymore. In that sense, it's not earthly, since nothng on Earth is perfect. It comes straight from Heaven.
jsnauwaert 4 months ago
The Xmas card images not withstanding, pure mud--trying to go too fast with too large an ensemble. Herding musical cats. Check out the Herreweghe on YouTube: EhjJAJdmKOE, if you want to hear the real deal.
DonVueltaMorales 9 months ago
@DonVueltaMorales I actually like the tempo. makes long melodic and harmonic lines easier to follow. Plus, the ensemble is, if at all, not much larger than the one Herreweghe uses (and he has no boy soprani, shame on him! ;-) ). No-one's really sure as to how large Bach's ensembles were anyway, some say he preferred exceptionally large ensembles.
VictorMLudwig 9 months ago
@VictorMLudwig I don't care about the size of Bach's (desired) chorus. The size of this chorus is just unmanageable. There was an old Karl Böhm broadcast from the mid-70s that worked well with hundreds of singers and instrumentalists. One merely needs to take the tempo more slowly. Listen to this carefully and you'll hear that it's muddy.
DonVueltaMorales 8 months ago
@DonVueltaMorales I just listeed to the Herreweghe rendition and it is very clear. However, I wonder how much of the "muddiness" is due to the recording/upload quality and not Goodman's ensemble?
sparch3 3 months ago
@sparch3 Plus the sopranos begin flat. The intonation is off among the voices. That's what's causing some of the sloppiness. Also, you can't expect a large ensemble (with kids) to react as sharply as a small ensemble (with professionals). I remember seeing a Karl Böhm video of this broadcast in the US during the 1970s. It was a Mahler-sized group. He did the opening chorus slowly and solemnly. Very different, very grand, but it was beautiful in its Romantic way. Mendelssohn would have loved it.
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DonVueltaMorales 9 months ago
If all men started life as boy sopranos singing Bach, would this be a better world?Do you know how to create a video response? If all the world sang the music of Bach, would this be a better world?
hraisz1 9 months ago 2
WOW,this wonderful pics really touching me ,especially when i read Revelation 5,this is surely the song for the lamb been slain,thank you Bach, always so touching.
shortytimmy 9 months ago
Absolutamente divino! Escuchar este oratorio de Bach es percibir un rayito de la gloria del cielo. Bravo!!
Vanchy58 9 months ago 2
this is the most beoutifull and more medical music ever written
dombadil 9 months ago
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dombadil 9 months ago
I am not certain if there is a God, it is said that God is eternal, but so is this music, maybe there is a connection. Each time I listen to this I am transported somewhere beyond.....
ForLOVEoftheARTS 9 months ago 3
einfach wundervoll
danny08761 10 months ago 2
i looked this up because i am singing it for the glen ellyn childrens chorus"Anima"
noobblaster101 10 months ago
дети... хоть плачь...
s07071979 11 months ago
Ya tozhe xochu plakat'! Eta krassota vozmuchaet menya do glubine moego serdza!
christobald21 9 months ago
KozenaFan is right: The conductor is Stephen Cleobury, not Roy Goodman.
Ennah08 11 months ago 3
9 ppl should not have the right to breathe.
MisteriosaVampiria 11 months ago
@MisteriosaVampiria
NAZI!
aphex86 11 months ago
Exelente, gracias por tu esfuerzo en subir estos videos. Lástima que la Pasión según San Mateo no este traducida como la pasión según San Juan.
williamalexgarcia 1 year ago
There is no words to describe this beauty.
Asherah01 1 year ago 11
What a beautiful piece of music.Thanks to "jjpetkusiii" for sending me this and many other Bach compositions.
walkingdead7 1 year ago
@walkingdead7 You're most welcome.
No composer truly rivals J. S. Bach.
Ad majorem Dei gloriam!
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago
@jjpetkusiii I heard somewhere that bach was asked who he admired.He said that if he could be like handel that would be wonderful.Great compliment from one master to another!
posh1961 1 year ago 2
Twentyfive years ago, as a very young boy, I sang this peace in one of the oldest churches of Holland. It's wonderful to hear this piece again... Brings back so many memories... Thanks!!!!!!
Wouterutrecht 1 year ago
Where is the building? It's a cathedral, but what's the name of it and where is it at?
starbreez3 1 year ago
... the thing about bach is that every composition of his was almost a totally unique sub-species of musical form ... .
MusicPredominates 1 year ago
the faith in God brings the human ingenuity to create wonderful works, Western civilization is in full decline because faith is falling.
it seems that beauty is represented only by the past works.
oh Lord, I pray you, brings the beauty of the world again!
(from Italy)
52b17 1 year ago 3
So wonderful to hear (and see) this again. It is always refreshing after so long and a little like renewing or also refreshing one's faith all over again. Thank you so much.
Paxtoranious 1 year ago
Com estes tipos de composições, Bach faz o Céu descer à Terra, e a Terra se transforma em Céu.
ferdinandus1983 1 year ago
Wonderful music!
J.S.Bach is the best one!
He was a deep faith man and his faith in Jesus Christ was doubtless the source of his inspiration . We shouldn’t ignore the religious finalities of the sacred art (music enclosed) and the spiritual reaction it arouses into the spectators.
Greetings from Italy.
IOVANNIG 1 year ago 3
@IOVANNIG I sang this several years ago and I can remember that is a piece for two choruses singing at a time. Our National synphonic Choir was about 100 persons and so we had to divide in two for the singing of this precious oratorio. I agree, The source of Bach inspiration is the most important: our Lord Jesus Christ.
AlexosAndros 1 year ago 3
Das Tempo ist perfekt!
8Eowyn 1 year ago
Makes me almost cry every time I hear it.
Probably one of the most beautiful pieces for Choir!
radeonpdY 1 year ago
Bach, gênio, abençoado de Deus. Gelson - TV Jaguari - Brasil.
TVJaguari7 1 year ago
ai me encanta!!!!!!!
necrogoddess 1 year ago
It takes skill to have two orchestras, two choirs, a flowing melody with a chorale so elegantly placed above it all work perfectly! That is the genius of the melodies structure of Bach, let alone all the other features such as Harmony which too are handled with perfection!
I just simply cannot grasp how the man did it! :P
vilxan 1 year ago
Me encanta!
Emmocar 1 year ago
Soli Deo Gloria!
In Nomine Domini Nostri Jesu Christi
kramotakra 1 year ago
It's so passionate and so plenty of dignity at the same time...tears of passion...glorious Bach!!!
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That is wonderful. Simply wonderful. Completely breathtaking. It's more than music here, this musicians and choristers pay a tribute to Bach's genius.
SimplyDavid42 1 year ago
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SimplyDavid42 1 year ago
A tiny bit slower tempo could have been nice(r)...........
barricades1968 1 year ago
Superb!!!
Sissiaraujo 1 year ago
What a dramatic effect he brings with these complex,dark and rare harmonies! Surpassing Handel and every other composer! I like the opening chorus of St.John passion a little more than this! Heaven must have felt something when this music first echoed in the earth!
dannyevans89 1 year ago 3
Absolutely beautifull, a retreat for the soul. Fully agree with Jacksparrow with his last words; Thank you, Bach. Glory be to God!
MrDikkie 1 year ago
Im pretty sure that Bach must be playing for God everyday! No words to express my feelings about it. Thank you for sharing!
Absolutamente fantastico! que bueno estuvo! Gracias por compartir;
passionscorpio18 1 year ago
Johann Sebastian Bach ist einer der Betsen Komponisten der Zeitgeschichte
tolles werk
allemagne92 1 year ago
Genau! Christian aus Frankreich.
christobald21 9 months ago
Divine,,,,
qhqhe008 1 year ago
What choir is it?
drtmuir 1 year ago
ugly!!!!!! too fast.
gemaawutzje 1 year ago
@gemaawutzje It shouldn't be too slow.
drtmuir 1 year ago
1:30 = Mosquito Bite.
gerubach72 1 year ago
@gerubach72 No is a louse! jajaja
Iam100percentBach 1 year ago
we love bach !!! iam sure that this music is from heaven and just bach has listen it and put it in notes
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nabin total ungezogen heute! wer hat lust zu chatten oder camen
LissetteHippl43 1 year ago
Prachtig werkelijk wonderschoon
esencin 1 year ago
Maestoso e commovente. Noi italiani conosciamo troppo poco la musica vocale di Bach e la nostra musica liturgica è penosa.
Majestueux et émouvant. Nous italiens connaissons trop peu la musique vocale de Bach et notre musique liturgique aujourd'hui est insuffisante.
astense 1 year ago
Qué maravilla, es tan grande y majestuoso, pero tan cercano a la vez.... ¿Cómo se le puede ocurrir a alguien esta composición? Supongo que hay que tener mucha fe... Estuve escuchando esta obra interpretada por The King's Consort en Cuenca (España), y fue absolutamente genial, magistral. ¡Viva Bach!
Marybeatle71 1 year ago
A lo largo de la historia de la música, muy poca gente como Bach, Haendel, Beethoven o Mozart consiguen describir la Gloria de Dios. La Pasión segun San Mateo de Bach es un obra inmesa, monumental, magestuosa y consigue alabar la grandeza del Creador y de su palabra. La Pasión segun San Juan es menos conocida y no tan grandilocuente. Sin embargo es de caracter más íntimo y de acercamiento personal a Dios. La Pasión de Cristo es la obra cumbre de la imbecilidad y la miseria humana.
llunatiq 1 year ago
No tengo palabras para comentar semejante escalofriante maravilla.
Me atrevo a pensar que qué habría sido de la pasión sin esta 'Pasión'
PILAR2090 1 year ago
The conductor is Stephen Cleobury, not Roy Goodman. Choir of King's College, Cambridge. The orchestra is the Brandenburg Consort, whose leader is Roy Gooman.
KozenaFan 1 year ago 2
o my god this is sooo beautiful i was crying when i listening ...
thedavid9010 1 year ago
Wunderbar!
wonderful!
maravilloso!
meraviglioso!
Petrikirchenhaus 1 year ago 2
Essa música é fascinante; nos introduz no mistério Pascal de Jesus. Abençoado Bach!
pdomi2 1 year ago
Astrónomo francés Baland dijo a su amigo: "Con mi telescopio he buscado todo el universo y no encontrar a Dios en cualquier lugar, y él respondió:" Hoy he abierto mi reloj y vio que relojero " ...
Vivimos, respiramos y existe en Dios!
Gracias, Señor Jesucristo, que murió por mí!
Eterna gloria y honor y adoración al Señor del universo, Padre, Hijo y Espíritu Santo!!!!!!!!!
lazartonytube 1 year ago
no prueba la existencia de Dios, pero nos hace creer que Dios existe
jraqp58 1 year ago
@jraqp58 Solo creerás lo que tú y sólo tú quieras creer con Bach ó con los Rolling...☺♫
jorgegrillo55 1 year ago
no hay ningun humano que no se vea afectado con esta musica.
jraqp58 1 year ago 3
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jacksparrow022 1 year ago
I find the sopranos to weak, at some parts you just don't hear them. I aspected a bit more from boysopranos...
choirboyoost 1 year ago
@choirboyoost You're right, I sang it myself for a few years and although it isn't as simple as you'd think, these voices are indeed too weak...
donkat94 1 year ago
@choirboyoost - I think this is due more to the recording than to the performance. it lacks crisp high frequencies.
Branchporter 1 year ago
well Bach believe in God whether u wanted him too or not, And thats His belief and human right to believe or not to. Man hasn't proven or disproven the Existence of God, Yet God's handiwork is in the trees, atom, music and yes in our Genius and minds,. Man cannot prove where things begin or end no more than he can predict when Life leave his or her body, so the Arguements continue,
Kend0823 1 year ago
so fascinating
sinancans 1 year ago
I love this, especially my favourite part from 4:13
Ritzounett 1 year ago 2
when was recorded, please?
TheJordiii 2 years ago 4
I think it was in 1994.
pefirobra 1 year ago 3
Absolutely wonderful. I have watched this video many times over the past eight months (it's in my favorites), but its beauty really struck me today.
Thank you, Bach. Glory be to God!
jacksparrow022 2 years ago 78
@jacksparrow022 it is indeed wonderful!! The commitment these singers have is really great.
sebbolaat 9 months ago
Bach was the right man in the right place at the right time. If this a clip of the Double Violin Concerto, we would not be talking about a God.
John27346 2 years ago 22
@John27346
Perhaps Bach simply is God.
Athrenad 11 months ago
@John27346 Thank You very much! Double Violin Concerto- I searched for this melody nearly everywhere.
You made my day :)
Mathew1987UK 11 months ago
@Mathew1987UK Bless you my child.
John27346 11 months ago
Amazing !!
SHUGHES1986 2 years ago 9
Strongsad38001: There is more to Bach than just talent. Bach's music invites us to open ourselves to the beauty and tragedy of existence. It invites us to truly enter a new world, to re-adjust our focus on compassion and sincerity, and to start dealing with the inevitability of death. It talks to us through the centuries, in a language that everybody can understand.
Schroederhausen 2 years ago 12
... and the conducting technique is something to be noted ...
3NUNS 2 years ago 7
The incomplete opening bar is disappointing. That's the bit that sends the shiver down my spine and it's missing here,.
Ex Cathedra have published their Good Friday performance from the Symphony Hall (Brum UK) and I'm looking forward to hearing the cds because I was too near to the stage then
mozgreen 2 years ago 7
@mozgreen : I am sure that you are skilled enough 'to hear in your head' the opening note and a half.
3NUNS 2 years ago 7
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mozgreen 2 years ago
Few pieces that make me misty eyed...this be one...
uncleroyhoggins 2 years ago 8
Kings College is fantastic.
Chrisy299 2 years ago 10
@Chrisy299 : Named after King Henry V!!! was it ?
3NUNS 2 years ago 8
Yes but Kings was founded in 1441 by Henry VI (1421-71)
Chrisy299 2 years ago 8
@Chrisy299 : Thanks. I stand corrected !
3NUNS 2 years ago 8
What choir is singing? Kings College, Cambridge?
m0bob 2 years ago 9
Right it is Kings College.
Chrisy299 2 years ago 8
too fast
camilocuesta 2 years ago 8
didn´t seem so for me
ThePhilosorpheus 2 years ago 8
what's more, this is not Kommt ihr Toechter!
lefekir 2 years ago 8
Esta música terrenal es simplemente divina.Exponente del máximo nivel de creación de la mente humana.Serviría para dejarla indeterminadamente flotando en el éter,cuando todo ésto termine,como ejemplo de lo que fuimos capaces de construir.¡Templo sonoro de eterna belleza!.
paradoxicus 2 years ago 28
Música divina inspirada por Dios para ser creada por uno de los primeros grandes adoradores de la época moderna. Inigualable.
rachelthemachine 1 year ago
Estoy de acuerdo. Yo pensaba lo mismo pero no acertaba a decirlo tan bien como te sale a ti.
aprofundis 1 year ago
Bravo.
3NUNS 2 years ago 4
Bach pure genius begins from 4.15 through to the end of the piece.
realdealzzz789 2 years ago 5
Pray tell, what is the purity grade to that point ?
3NUNS 2 years ago 4
magnifico,pero el audio deja mucho que desear.
bach,wagner y mussorgski los mejores.
anselgoya 2 years ago 4
Pls explain me, why does the music jump ??
What for a happiness...
222mozart 2 years ago 4
it is the movement of thousands of people to a 'truth' that will make them free hence the three time which keeps on going and going
3NUNS 2 years ago 4
La perfeccion de las composiciones de Bach estan en una esfera superior a varios otros compositores de renombre, aparte de producir efectos directos sobre la mente y el cuerpo tambien sobre las cosas, Bach no hacia musica, sino verdaderas atmosferas materializadas en el medio llamado musica.
parzifal2 2 years ago 12
just beautiful!
gogmagog123456789 2 years ago 5
one of the rare occasions on which I stop bumping 50 cent and just dig this shit untill it ends. this shit is dope. I dont care if the guys are all dressed in gowns.
fruitsofescapism 2 years ago 5
Es definitivamwente una de las piezas mas hermosas de la pasión según San Mateo, la grandeza musical de Bach, el precursor de Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, entre otros, es inimiginable, simplemente celestial.
tato4527 2 years ago 5
One of the greatest choral pieces by Bach, the interpretation by Goodman and his ensemble is perfect and heart-moving!
Kurwenal 2 years ago 4
Maybe I'm a dimwitted thickhead for believing my senses and my intuition when they tell me that there is a God, but what great reasons Bach has given us to believe, and I wouldn't put stock in any formal system where this was not an axiom. :)
NihilNominis 2 years ago 10
Perhaps reality and God have a deep correspondence, or a less formal one than you would tend to believe.
ToccataInF 2 years ago 4
...art, by the way, meaning "skill" in its original Latin, Bach's possession of which I am sure you won't dispute.
NihilNominis 2 years ago 4
Maybe I'm a dimwitted thickhead for believing my senses and my intuition when they tell me that there is a God, but what great reasons Bach has given us to believe, and I wouldn't put stock in any formal system where this was not an axiom. :)
NihilNominis 2 years ago 5
You make it sound like Bach woke up one day and said to himself, "I think I'm going to write some Passion music to give pagans great reasons to believe."
But he didn't write it for any purpose other than to serve as PART of the music for the Good Friday vespers services at the St. Thomas and St. Nicolai churches in Leipzig. The reason it's in 2 parts, was not for a concert intermission or potty break, but to allow for strategic insertion of a related 1 hour sermon.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 3
wcbroccoli,
Educated as you are, apparently so, I always had a distaste for your comments. And now I understand why.
You cannot see past the absolutely basic. Yes, Bach wrote this as service music for his Leipzig churches
NihilNominis 2 years ago 4
I just knew you'd come back swinging.
Pow! "Educated as you are, apparently so,..."
Pow! "I always had a distaste for your comments...now I understand why..."
Pow!: "You cannot see past the absolutely basic".
In other words, if I make comments that clash with your reaction to the music, this must surely indicate that I "cannot see past the absolutely basic", right?
Get a grip....
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 5
No Bach was not exceptionally pious for writing Church music, but neither are you exceptionally educated for deriding those who find it the most sublime of church music! He had a gift, and that gift has helped many of us to feel more vividly that which the music is describing. For, whatever its setting, the music was *about* the Passion, and it does a hell of a job conveying all the intensity of this event. It makes it real. Romanticism is a natural reaction to incredible art.
NihilNominis 2 years ago 4
Feeling like taking another swing, are you? What does Bach's relative piety have to do with your opinion of my education? Why juxtapose those ideas? One has nothing to do with the other.
I never said Bach didn't have a gift, nor did I deride anyone for appreciating his music.
You're off topic, which is did Bach write this to give pagans good reasons to believe.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 4
Have you ever read the story of Prince Vladimir and his religion? He sent out his emissaries to determine which was the true faith by watching all of the nations at prayer. When they came to Constantinople, they were so taken aback by the glory of Byzantine worship, they reported that "God truly dwells among these men". Consequently, the Prince converted himself and his kingdom. Thus the birth of the Russian Orthodox Church.
NihilNominis 2 years ago 3
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wcbroccoli 2 years ago
That story about the reason for Vladimir's conversion to Christianity is as believable as the story of Constantine's conversion to Christianity after having had a vision of the cross.
A more likely explanation for Vladimir's conversion is that he sought a Byzantine alliance.
Rulers often changed religion for political reasons.
While Bach was employed in Leipzig, the Elector of Saxony, a Lutheran stronghold which included Leipzig, became Catholic so he could be elected King in Poland.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 4
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wcbroccoli 2 years ago
"Romanticism" is a natural reaction for you. Your reaction is whatever it is.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 3
Now, the point of that story. The reason that the Byzantines did any of those things which Vladimir's men saw was not to convert pagans such as those emissaries, but to fulfill their own devotion to God. It didn't need to be intended for such an effect to have the effect that it did - converting the entire nation of Russia. Why should Bach have to have intended to convert pagans in order to do so? Why should he need to have wanted to give good reasons for belief if he does so anyway?
NihilNominis 2 years ago 3
So, you have created a false dilemma. By your reasoning, Bach can only be a good reason for belief (for I never asserted else) if he intended to be. Then you seek to determine whether or not he did in order to test the validity of my assertion. Yet the question does not actually matter. Whether or not he intended his music to be such a ground for belief is irrelevant. It is, despite or because of his intention, whatever the resolution to your dilemma may be.
NihilNominis 2 years ago 3
You're the only one on a mission to prove something.
I never set out to prove anything.
I was just throwing cold water in your face to rouse your from your romantic ecstasy so I could remind you of the sole reason this Passion was written: to fit the liturgy
of Leipzig's St. Thomas and St. Nicholas churches. It's the same reason he reworked someone else's St. Mark Passion.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 3
And in so doing you willfully sought to depreciate a masterwork of art in the eyes of its beholder. You show yourself deliberately malicious.
Your further comments show a pronounced confontationalism, especially as the literal truth of my example has no bearing on its cogency (or do you not accept mythological instance, either?).
I have had since childhood a severe distaste for your namesake, and I have grown sick and distasteful of your comments. Message me no further. Waste of time.
NihilNominis 2 years ago 3
You react to Bach's passion music as though it's the gospel according to Bach, "giving us great reasons to believe." Fine.
I merely reminded you of it's original liturgical context.
As for the point you tried to make with the story, I never suggested you can't have the reaction you have unless Bach intended it. I only pointed out he didn't intend it.
(Similarly, Jesus, a devout Jew, didn't intend to "save" non-Jews. Yet Christians believe he did. Talk about unintended reactions!)
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 3
I haven't sought to do anything but respond constructively to your comments,
even when you've resorted to childish ad hominem.
There was nothing confrontational in my comments on your example.
Your example was much more interesting than your very obvious point, which is simply that a listener's reaction may be unrelated to the composer's intent.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 4
As for your request that I message you no further, you should realize that I haven't been messaging you at all.
I've only been replying to comments you've posted in a forum open to all UTube customers.
UTube notifies you of replies to your comments.
If you want UTube to stop notifying you about replies to your comments, perhaps should consider deleting your UTube account and/or refraining from posting comments.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 3
Gods, get a life. Do you expect other people to respond on my behalf? No, for we are having the discourse, and as such your messages are for me. You are having a discussion with me in the context of a YouTube forum; the fact that the public can view it makes your messages no less directed at me, and my request no less in earnest.
The very fact that you have chosen to *dispute the fact that you've been talking to me* is a wonderful testament to your character visible "to all UTube customers".
NihilNominis 2 years ago 3
Now, in your comments has always been an underlying attack on me ad hominem. By seeking to "remind" me of the piece's original context, you assume that I did not understand it. Although I nowhere and nowise implied such in my comments, you seemed bent to convince me that the piece was not, as you thought I thought, originally intended for a concert setting. Where have I ever said that? How am I supposed to engage in discourse with a man who doesn't know what I have and have not said?
NihilNominis 2 years ago 3
So, what did I say? I said that, simpleminded as it may sound, the power of this music which Bach wrote, for whatever purpose and context he did, has always convinced me strongly of the truth of its text, making it truly present for me emotionally. Context or composer's intent notwithstanding.
Also, "to write liturgical music" is not really an intention anyway. It is an action. I'm sure that liturgical reformists write similar pieces with very different intentions than, say, Palestrina.
NihilNominis 2 years ago 3
Therefore, in the course of this entire conversation, in no message have you really addressed what I was saying. You've assumed that my point was borne on ignorance, ridden this assumption into a realm of unnecessary points, ceaseless and needless nitpicking, and then wonder why I'm not debating what you've said. Perhaps it's because an encyclopedic statement of facts has absolutely no bearing on a personal appreciation of a piece, if the interpretation falls within them, which mine does.
NihilNominis 2 years ago 3
Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to enjoy the music a bit. I think I'm done replying to you, unless you say something which is really of interest.
NihilNominis 2 years ago 3
Oh, you mean you weren't already done replying to me when you wrote "I have grown sick and distasteful of your comments. Message me no further. Waste of time"?
Enjoy the music, if you can.
Nothing anyone posts can stop you.
It's only your hard need for personal vindication, having the last word, getting your licks in, and appearing to be in control that might distract you.
I'm done replying to you. You seem to have nothing to offer but a tiresome personal agenda.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 2
I already knew what you were trying to say. I just didn't find it that interesting.
That's why I kept trying to steer the discussion to other areas.
But even now you display the hard need for personal vindication.
It's much more interesting to consider why after Bach's death his passion music ceased to be performed in Leipzig, even though his motets continued to be performed there more than 30 years later, in Mozart's time.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 4
I understood from the get go what you you meant when you commented, "What great reasons Bach has given us to believe [in God]".
And I addressed your comment in my very 1st reply, which began "You make it sound like Bach woke up one day..."
You just didn't like what I said.
I assumed your comment was borne out of enthusiam for the piece. But since you seem to already believe in "God", it's sounds oddly preachy for you to proclaim "what great reasons Bach gives us to believe [in God]."
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 4
I had to introduce other "points" to try to change the subject!
I never "wondered" why you didn't debate my "points" because it was clear you were only interested in pursuing you own pet "point."
I never made "an encyclopedic statement of facts." That is just another of your transparent attempts at ad hominem.
"...no bearing on personal appreciation..."? How naive. There's more to understanding Bach's passion settings than just hearing an historically informed "interpretation".
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 2
I've no doubt that's what you meant to say, and I've never disputed you're right to feel that way.
The intent "to write liturgical music" is surely an intention. The act of writing it is the fulfillment of the intention.
I spoke of Bach's intent to write passion music to fit Leipzig traditions and liturgy. The result might have been different had he written passion music for, say, the Hamburg churches. E.g., different choice of hymns, poetic texts, structure.
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 2
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wcbroccoli 2 years ago
My comments have not "always been" ad hominem.
I never assumed you didn't understand the piece's original context. I couldn't seek to "remind" you of something you didn't already know.
I'm not bent on convincing you of anything.
Oh, I know what you've said. There's no confusion or misunderstanding on my part.
What's got your knickers in a twist is that
I didn't shout "Praise the Lord!" when you wrote "What great reasons Bach has given us to believe [in God]."
wcbroccoli 2 years ago 3
So predictable.
You're not obliged to read or reply to UTube notifications about replies to your comments, yet you *choose* to do so anyway.
What you really want is to have the last word. You want to be in control.
A wonderful testament to your character, plain to all UTube customers..
Had I wanted to actually "message" you, I would have done so, and you could have blocked my attempts.
We cannot have a *discourse* unless you