Rescue 911 - Episode 207 - "Trading Places" (Part 2 of 2)

[Jackassfan7651]

How can a guy commit suicide in jail

[Raptormon132]

@Jackassfan7651

There are lots of ways.

[notobeanassbut]

@Jackassfan7651 hanging himself or cutting his wrists. Either way he did the world a favor.

[bushwhacked59]

Gary was awesome! I heard a similar story on the news once. This guy just robbed a gas station and barged into someones house demanding a car. Then the electrian or cable guy showed up shortly after and lured him away. TRUE HEROS! and theres no doubt in my mind that I'd do the same thing.

[vickiormindyb]

My friend works in Tucson now. He was in that city when the guy shot Gabrielle Giffords and killed those 4 people, one including a 9-yr. old.

He wasn't on-duty, and he was too far away to respond, but he was in the same city. Which freaked me out to hear it.

[athenacat96]

"There must be a dozen of them back there." ...or four.

[Snoep76239]

Also, too bad that scumbag didn't commit suicide by cop.....

[TheMKEWERBY]

@Snoep76239 I think it's too bad Detective Yandau didn't slam that FUCK's head into the roof of the car, breaking his neck. "Watch your head", Give me a BREAK! What kind of lawman is he?!

[Snoep76239]

What does the convict say at 3:38 when he gives the hostage the kife??

[happy7117]

@Snoep76239

Convict says "Let's Quit"

[Snoep76239]

Medium security or not, it seems a little off to have one unarmed CO supervising half a dozen guys with axes.....

[mickjagger1991]

Hey! Vermont is where I live :)

[bakinggurl]

thats why the telephone poles are closer to the road well from were I live there only like 4 feet aside of the road

[Boodlebug13]

I wish that guy would dye already

[MrJaxreid]

how come the cops didn't use their sirens?

[kimnfernando]

In part 1 i felt bad for the old people.

[Nassault630]

That old man, Leo, in part 1..What a gentleman. He just jumps up to protect his wife.

[NorwegianMelody]

"...where he later committed suicide." Good riddance! Psycho lunatic!

[TMANNTYLER666]

I don't get it. Taking prisoners out the gate to go do labor. That's just asking for it in my opinion.

[phoenixfriend]

I love this show because it shows that there are geninely good people in the world, like Gary T.

[Thedancingqueen2000]

When they said that mae was widowed, i felt chills down my spine and really sad for her

[voorhees55]

That roadblock was a FAIL!

[vickiormindyb]

Officer Greg again: Generally, when a person escapes from incarceration, all you have to do is wait for the report of an additional crime in progress to come in.

It doesn't take long for them to revert to their old way of acting, especially since most prisons offer little opportunity for the prisoner to reform.

But someone who escapes usually displays no interest in changing for the better.

[1RadicalOne]

"He was transferred to a higher-security prison, where he later committed suicide."

One of the few times I smile during these.

[vickiormindyb]

@1RadicalOne I think it's a waste of taxpayers' monies.

We pay for them to be in prison, not that I like it, but we do.

[1RadicalOne]

Well, I would make escape from prison, for those convicted of violent crime, a capital offence. Too many times has it happened. Hell, there are even a couple R911's on it.

[sonic549515]

why did she become widowed?

[Thedancingqueen2000]

It's sad how it says that Mae or may was now wudowed

[mrsnowman102]

the knife was backwards in the first part when the guy was driving

[prkr5885]

The other inmates should be awarded.. I know they tied him but they tied him very loosely.

[bushwhacked59]

I like Gary's pickup

[mangoliouskiwi]

Personally, I think any attack against elderly people or children is pretty much the worst thing someone can do. It takes a really pathetic person to do something like that.

[bushwhacked59]

Thanks for this upload allgood2000, Ive been searching for this one for a long time!

[vickiormindyb]

Officer Greg again: I've said this b4 but it's well worth repeating.

We care about the hostage and will do everything necessary to defuse a situation of this type. Un4tunately, this case was out of control to the point where taking what may seem like added risks was necessary to regaining control of the situation.

The suspect is the one who doesn't care about anyone but himself, which is y he accused police of not caring about the hostage.

[bushwhacked59]

I would do the same thing to protect an old couple if I was in Garry's place.

[soumya5200]

what did the suspect say just before throwing his knife?

[bushwhacked59]

@soumya5200 It sounded to me like he said "They dont care nothing about me and they dont care nothing about you", probably meaning the cops.

[bushwhacked59]

@soumya5200 And then he told Gary "Lets quit!" when he handed him the knife.

[vickiormindyb]

I worked w/ a cop last night who was a major doofus. IDK if that's his regular MO when doing things, but he was a jackass.

Even my friend, who IS a police officer thought the guy was a jerk. But he used a very colorful word for the guy.

[HorrorAddict85]

man, that knife-welding guy was a psychopathic scumbag, how could you hold a elder woman and man hostage.

[vickiormindyb]

@HorrorAddict85 Probably the same way the 2 teenagers could kill an elderly woman then expect the public to show outrage that ANYONE could think they then deserve the death penalty. They're totally rotten human beings.

No one even GETS capital punishment unless there's something unusual about the way their victim was murdered and, even then, 98% of offenders live anyway.

How anyone can be outraged at capital punishment while hardly giving a damn about homicide victims is beyond me.

[jagi200]

id never do that to a old lady or man

[leafyandgreen]

@jagi200 I don't think you should do that to anybody

[chuckmanofgod]

I don't think security was that good back in 1982. I find it difficult to believe that even in minimum security the convicts wouldn't be handcuffed while in the vehicle and that the driver wouldn't have a guard with him. I remember watching a group of prisoners in Florida doing work along the side of the road and there were a couple guards with guns. I don't know if that was considered to be minimal security, but I believe that things have changed since then.

[leonlewisrocks]

WOW what a rude man!

gosh

i like this show soo much.

[mrlemmon]

The EMT guy looks like John Denver.

[vickiormindyb]

Patrol Officer Greg here: Freddie thinks we're real stupid there, doesn't he?

He gives the victim the knife and tells police, 'I'm the guy.' Meaning the victim?

He thinks we're gonna check out Gary and just let him go free, huh?

Yeah right, dude. As if.

We had a call similar to this a few nights ago.

He locked himself in the house w/ his girlfriend and kid, held a knife to the girlfriend's throat and said he'd take it away when we left the scene.

Dream on, I thought and called for backup.

[Redrum200proof]

0:32 at first I thought his arm badge said "sex"

Says Essex though

[allgood2000]

@TheJoey1978 Did you see the episode that aired the week after this that started off with a paramedic getting hit by a race car?

[TEACHERTIGERSHAH]

That has to be a scare situation for anyone to go through

[vickiormindyb]

My friend, Greg, says an axe is too unwieldy as a weapon when you want to have up close control of the person. Like the convict wanted over the prison guard and then Gary T.

Greg's a police officer. He said he's only seen people use axes when they want to stand at a distance from their victims, or when they want to surprise them.

That's the reason he figures the prison wasn't concerned with having axes. The other is that medium-security prisons aren't supposed to house unstable criminals.

[allgood2000]

@vickiormindyb It seems like if they wanted to escape, they could still run up to him and attack him with an axe. It would be hard for them to hold someone hostage, but I don't think it would be too difficult to injure someone.

[vickiormindyb]

That's true too. The most significant factor is that medium security prisoners are supposed be trustworthy-not unstable like Freddie was.

Greg said somebody in the system made a major mistake placing Freddie in the Outside the Fence program.

[vickiormindyb]

@allgood2000 This is Officer Greg, Vicki's friend. It's true that he could attack the guard w/ an ax, but an ax is not ordinarily considered a weapon with which to hold someone hostage. Meaning prisoners don't use it as a weapon of choice.

Freddie knew the guard would be monitoring his every move while he's using the ax. With the knife, he would have the element of surprise in his favor.

Wanting the element of surprise is why he used a knife instead.

[happy7117]

Why did Freddy say "I'm the guy. I'm the guy."

I am guessing Freddy wanted the cops to think gary was the escaped prisoner.

[happy7117]

What does Freddy say to Ottie at 2:14 on Part 1??

something like "I'll kill you right here"

[vickiormindyb]

He says "I oughta kill you right here."

[allgood2000]

According to the closed captions, he says, "I'd have killed you right here."

[kubotaman85]

How can this be 1982?????Ford Taurus weren't even out in 1982...in fact Taurus was not introduced until 1986!so that means this reenacment wasn't done until 4-5 years later

[allgood2000]

This episode aired in November of 1990, so the re-enactment was probably filmed earlier that year.

[kubotaman85]

That answered my question...thanks so much

[vickiormindyb]

I wish we worked around officers that look like the officer at 0:48. We always have ones who think it's cool to shave their entire heads so they're bald even though they're in their 20's.

[Spiderweb127]

If you have no hair no one could pull it in a fight.

[vickiormindyb]

Officer Greg L. again-They were using both marked and unmarked vehicles to make the stop, because that's how you handle a high-priority call. Which, clearly, this was.

In fact, they spare nothing on high-priority calls, and the SWAT team's helicopter and vehicles might also have been deployed. Doing so is usually a matter of availability.

I wish people would at least ask someone who knows before commenting on police procedures. Contrary to what appears as general belief, we're not dunderheads.

[leananshae]

VERMONT! This is a shout-out to all the Green Mountain Boys! I miss the green wild freedom, the smell of snow in the air, fiddleheads, ramps and even mud season and the leaf peepers! I'm a flatlander now. But home calls my heart.

[trainzrok]

im not sure if they had unmarked cars back than, but that probably would have been a safer alternative to those regular police cars.

[mmmfloorpie]

Well, usually when they are behind a dangerous suspect, they don't attempt to make a traffic stop until there are several police cars right behind... As the officer in this explains, "I had no choice to initiate the stop, because I had already turned on my blue lights"...

What I want to know is how crazy of a penal system Vermont has... One guard and 10 convicts with axes? The main one was convicted of armed robbery too!

[vickiormindyb]

Anybody who knows about guns: Do you know what kind of gun that is at 4:21?

I've looked twice and can't even find a picture of it on Google images. So if anybody recognizes it, I'd like to know what it is.

[vickiormindyb]

Never mind the question about the kind of gun the officer is using at 4:21. My friend, Greg, told me it looks like a Ruger 45. Greg's a police officer.

IDK anything about guns, especially handguns.

[lilkinzrock3000]

the crimanal looks like ted bundy

[vickiormindyb]

What state did this occur in?

[allgood2000]

Vermont.

[vickiormindyb]

I can't believe that suspect had the gall to hold a knife to an elderly woman, and then a man who's been ill with heart problems.

The stress could have sent him into another heart attack-or heart failure of some other type.

It makes me furious when people do stuff like that to elderly sick people.

[pHOneGenIuS2009]

Yes I understand Vicki I cant stand it either I was kinda scared when I saw that happen

[anamallover]

I can't belive that suspect commited suaside

[anamallover]

By the way where I this story taken place just wondering?

[allgood2000]

The chase happened in Essex/South Burlington, Vermont. I'm not sure where they were at the beginning of the segment.

[vickiormindyb]

Officer Greg again: To answer the question as to why the prisoners had axes: probably b/c they were in medium security lock-up.

Maximum security takes prisoners who are unstable-I know, don't ask-someone blundered big time with the prisoner in question.

Medium accepts inmates who have convinced a judge they're going to be stable. Ideally, these prisoners are more trustworthy. But we don't live in an ideal world.

One reason I'm a police officer is to protect people from such cases.

[Kleman09]

@vickiormindyb my dad works as a correctionall officer. None of the gards are armed except for the man down alarm. All he has is his fist and all the strenth he has in his body. Believe me he has beat up guys bigger than him. he had to dop so for his life, and to break up the fights that occurr. Of course he has help though from other gaurds.

[Yayakills]

all i know is that im sure he got at least 30 or 30 something years added to his sentence.

but if i were him in that situation.

i would have sped down the road till i ran out of gas then ran into the woods.

idk why decided that it would be okay to drive down the road when thats where theyre gonna be looking for you.

i woulda camped in the woods for a few days so the police woulda thought that i had already left that place. Then took a car and driven away.

[MetalSanke]

@Yayakills Oh sure, THAT would of worked... They would of still looked for you in the dark.

[Yayakills]

right. but they woundnt find ...if i were black. looool ! ZING

[MetalSanke]

@Yayakills Nope. That wouldn't work either. They'd just beat you up more once they found you.

[Yayakills]

goddamn cant i just be right in my fantasy. yeesh.

[vickiormindyb]

Officer Greg L. here: This is fucked up...pardon my language, but no way! The guy tells the victim "They don't care about you, they don't care about me."

I'm thinking "Give me a fucking break dude. We care about the hostage. You're last on the list. That surprises you?

You're the one putting him in danger, not the police. You don't like what we do, I got one thought to share with you. That's YOUR tough luck. Act right and people will care about you. You don't get respect for free."

[steph66002]

a van that is for taking nursing home residents to the grocery store doctor appointments and etc basically its just a taxi for senior citizens

[happy7117]

What's a senior's bus??

[happy7117]

Ottie mentions that Freddy taped him to the tree in a way that Otiie was able to break free.

The situation could have been made worse if Freddy used duct tape--I think he used adhesive tape on Ottie.

Another mystery here gang: Freddy steals the van of course, so where was Ottie and the other guys planning to go to--

Remember when Ottie says "OK fellas-come on-we gotta a long way to go"

I hope they weren't planning on hiking back to the prison!! They have no wheels--

[bluebutdude1]

Stupid youtube does not show new subs all the time wtf

[happy7117]

When Freddy says "I'm the guy"-- was he hoping the cops would think he(Freddy) was the hostage..

I guess Freddy hoped they would think Gary was the prisoner and they would take him....

Judging by the way Gary and Freddy both looked- dirty and scruffy and all-one would think they were both escaped prisoners.

And for the re-enactment-that knife Freddy holds could very well have been a toy knife.

[happy7117]

If one thinks about it though, any one of those prisoners seen in the van could have taken Ottie hostage.

They are all riding uncuffed and unshackled too.

And when they are seen chopping wood at the work site, there should be tons more guards than just Ottie.

[allgood2000]

Yeah, I thought it was kind of funny that they were talking about how they were trying to keep the inmates from having access to weapons, but they have a bunch of axes in the back of the van.

[happy7117]

The axes were used for chopping that wood, but I am surprised they didn;t use the axes to attack Ottie.

Realisticly, I don't think they would have attacked Ottie using the axes they had because that would be to gory and violent.

[vickiormindyb]

@happy7117 According to Greg, my police officer friend, they didn't use axes, b/c it would take away the element of surprise.

If you watch in the first part of the segment, the guard is watching them like a hawk. If they made an untoward move, he could have run to the van and locked himself in before they could get to him.

I didn't even notice how he was watching them. I've never known any person other than Greg be able to notice all those details.

[garciajennifer223]

I noticed that too...all those axes, yet the guard didn't have a weapon. I wonder where the guy got the knife from in the first place?

[JPMcFly1985]

Yeah, I have mixed feelings on guns for that reason.. but it doesn't seem like a good idea for Ottie to have been totally unarmed, esp since he was outnumbered.

I always thought it was lucky the other inmates didn't go along with Freddie. They were probably basically good guys just in for more minor offenses.

[happy7117]

And as I said above, it was only Ottie that was supervising them all. They needed some more guards.

[JPMcFly1985]

Oh definitely, they should've had 2 or 3 armed guards for the guys (or at least taken less prisoners out at once).

P.S. I'd always wondered how the segment would've turned out if Freddy hadnt crashed into the ditch in front of the old couple's house. Amazing how the chain of events in the 2nd half of the story came together accidentally.

[happy7117]

Good point. Actualy I was wondering where Freddy was going to go after he tied Ottie to the tree.

He says to the guys "you guys coming", he gets in the van and drives off.

Freddy just sort of leaves all his buddies there standing around.

We need to know more-- what happened to all the other inmates!!! What were they in for!

Indeed, when Freddy crashes the van he desperately wants a car. I assume he wanted to continue his get-away to where-ever he was going.

[allgood2000]

I'm guessing the other inmates didn't go with him because they knew they would probably get recaptured, which would result in an even longer prison sentence. Also, they would almost certainly have their work privileges revoked.

[vickiormindyb]

We're paying our damn tax money for people like this guy to go through a program like that, and he uses it to be stupid.

I hate when violent criminals are "allowed" back in society.

I'm a victim of violent crime. It affects you in minor forms for life. He shouldn't be allowed out at all-unless people want to risk the lives of innocent citizens for one who's already proven he's capable of violence. IMO that's a dumb move.

[JPMcFly1985]

Thanks so much for the upload. Dave.

I actually forgot Gary was actually an EMT, but it's so good he was there, seems like a nice guy too.

[happy7117]

What does "instability" mean?? As in "Freddy had a reputation for instability"

[NKOWlifelight]

it means he had a history of mental disability.

[vickiormindyb]

I think it means the prison was stupid to put him in that program, b/c it means he's a loose cannon. He'll go off like a bomb over situations that other people would hardly care about.

I know someone like that who isn't in prison, but he has wild overreactions to situations that other people don't care about.

He blames it on stress too and plays the same 'nobody cares about me' game as the guy in the segment.

It's hard to care about someone who tells a person to run you over. Also in segment.

[Rescue911Trooper]

How did EMT lure prisoner?

[allgood2000]

The prisoner was holding the elderly couple hostage when the EMT walked in, and the EMT offered to take their place as the prisoner's hostage (which is why this segment is called "Trading Places").

[gregorkrause]

this one is a sister to the segment with corely meaning this segment has the same theme, prison location.

[happy7117]

And Driver also says to the driver of the ambulance on the way out of the prison "hit him, hit him". Freddy says "hit this guy on the left".

[gregorkrause]

may 3 is before my b-day may 17th 1982.

[ZMommaL56]

It was 2 months and 26 days before my birthday, July 29, 1982. I was born in 1982 also.

[gregorkrause]

interesting.

[ZMommaL56]

You said it. I'm almost 28 an so are you. That's when it happened.

[Muggle423]

Thanks for the uploads!

[Aggiesgigem]

Road block fail

[PredatorBrendan]

Quite a good segment. Nice work, Dave. Thanks.

[Quadracer687]

I enjoyed the eposide Thanik-you so much for sharing both eposides with me Quadracer687 (Laura)

[davinp]

that's sad the elderly woman's husband has passed away.

[angelsman089]

thank you bro i watched rescue 911 most of my life till they stopped it you have done a good job and thanks for all the old memory's'

[DorvellTStewart]

Thanks for the upload, Dave! Great segment!

[OneSkiWonder]

:D THANKS FOR A NEW UPLOAD!

[wotalot123]

...well good job!