British designers did not take a back seat to anybody. It is a slight to say that their excellent war planes had evolved by some kind of magic because designers were under great pressure to out engineer German designers.
@p51dlm22; sorry, M8, but smilo is quite right. There was nothing wrong with the P21 once it had the RR engine fitted, but the airframe wasn't capable of carrying the weight of stores - i.e. cannon ammo plus droptanks - to be effective as a long-range escort. P-51's were bloody good at what they were designed for, i.e. as a close-range fighter aircraft, but they didn't have the speed or the clout of the Tiffy or Tempest.
Typhoons saved Pattons arse..........even Eisenhower said the Typhoon was the most important allied aircraft of the Normandy campaign....Tiger tank crews hated them. The RAF had 26 squadrons of them in June 1944
great vid. Agree the Typhoon and Tempest just look menacing. I know this is British Propaganda at its best but they seemed to be pretty accurate with those rockets as well. Did not realise that the Tempest replaced the P51 on bomber escort duty towards the end of the war too.
See what those 6 inch naval shells can do attached to those rockets. That is why Hitler's tanks became irrelevant. When he lost air superiority in the west, he essentially lost the war. These air craft, armed with these rockets killed any german tank on the battlefield that so much as showed a turrent.
And now a bunch of bearded, wife-beating, moslem clerics issue fatwas declaring we must die, and their followers must blow us up with hair gel, and we are reduced to lining up and checking our underwear if we wish to fly to see relativrs across the oceans. Damn we sure betrayed these pilots didn't we...
The Whirlwind had a number of qualities but foremost were it's devastating armament and the fact it got it's pilots home even on one engine and no undercarriage. I think the government were under pressure to get fighters into service and the Spitfire was proving very popular. Problems with the Peregrine engines never helped it's cause even when a Whirlwind II was proposed. It is a shame as I think the Mosquito proved the value of a high performance twin engined fighter.
My father was in the 2nd tactical air force.1944. Stationed Belgium and Holland. He mentioned Typhoons taking off from an airfield and the enemy armour was so close
that they would virtually just clear the runway and release their rockets and return immediately for rearming.
A friend of Tony Johnstone related to me that at one point, when his plane was hit during a battle, my brother stepped out on the wing to bail out, then noticed that the falling plane would land in an inhabited area, so he stepped back in to adjust the gyroscopes so that the plane would avoid that area, he then stepped back out and bailed.
My brother was a pilot in the 183 Sqdn., Royal Air Force Fighter Command and flew a single-engine Hawker Typhoon. He participated in the Battle of Britain, and died in a crash while test-piloting a modified Typhoon on March 7, 1943. He had been trained in the USA by Tony Johnstone.
The aircraft shown at 2.02 is the Hawker TEMPEST - as the wing and rudder were a different shape -Can't believe someone disliked the video , however !
@73north Eh?!?! do live in some kind of alternate universe where there are no mindlessly myopic, & spineless, hug-a-dictator pacifists?? 'cause there are plenty where i live in the UK.
Top Vid along with Tempest my all time favourite WWII single engined plane. Did sterling and largely unheralded work during WWII. Down in the mud CAS and ground attack,
with pretty much non of the glamorous profile Spitfires, Hurricanes & their pilots got.
During Operation Goodwood (18th to 21st July) the 2nd Tactical Air Force and 9th USAAF claimed 257 and 134 tanks, respectively, as destroyed. Of these, 222 were claimed by Typhoon pilots using RPs. So what really happened? In the Goodwood area a total of 456 German heavily armoured vehicles were counted, and 301 were examined in detail. They found only 10 could be attributed to Typhoons using RPs (less than 3% of those claimed).
@tranmere789 you had to be there,I do not know what books you are reading but your information is grossly wrong. The typhoon and laterly the tempest, and not forgetting their incredibly brave pilots made an enormous contribution during the reoccupation of europe ,it wasnt just tanks these boys were targeting!. we should hold these brave pilots in high esteem for their efforts and sacrifices otherwise we could be having this discussion in german or if at all !
Unfortunately for air force pilots, there is a small unit usually entitled Research and Analysis which enters a combat area once it is secured. This is and was common in most armies, and the British Army was no different. The job of The Office of Research and Analysis was to look at the results of the tactics and weapons employed during the battle in order to determine their effectiveness (with the objective of improving future tactics and weapons).
P. Moore, Operation Goodwood, July 1944; A Corridor of Death, Helion & Company Ltd, Solihull, UK, 2007, p. 171.
N. Zetterling, Normandy 1944, J.J. Fedorowicz Publishing Inc, Winnipeg, Canada, 2000, pp. 38 and 52.
Note, these losses include losses sustained attacking vital rear areas including railroads and bridges, where the real damage to the German effort in Normandy was done.
@tranmere789 Are you going out of your way to be a Troll or do you have an issue with RAF pilots m8 ?? I completely appreciate that there where ( and are still ) big discrepancies in kill claims, for all kinds of combat but particularly air combat. But your more than a bit out of order to blanket tar all Typhoon pilots as "Liars". After all m8 it doesn't take a genius to work out how and why those discrepancies occurred completely accidentally.
No, I was making a ref to a remark that "Bomber "Harris made when he first saw the effects of the Luftwaffe bombing of London. I think the point was along the lines of " you have now started something that we will finish". War is a horrible thing ( ask the residents of Dresden and Cologne ), but we should all honour those who had to fight, along with those who lost their lives. I think you're right about the Whirlwind plane, though I didnt think it saw active service in WW2
@stratking69er the westland whirlwind was used during ww2 i think right up to 1943, if it had been given merlins instead of using the underpowered Peregrine engine it would have been a world beating aircraft it was way ahead of it's time with 4 hispano cannons and capable of 360 mph in 1939. unfortunatly the demand for melins for spitfires, hurricane, lancaster, and mosquito meant this never happened.
great planes, these were the destroyers of the german army at the Falaise gap
18tangles 1 week ago
Love the vid. The Typhoon was a great airplane.
motownmaniax 2 weeks ago
In the quiet memory
To the unknown fighter pilots
To the single fighters among them,
to the never called gang airmen,
to the association leaders.
To the "black men"
Of ground crew, without them an application
this fighter pilot not at all
it would have been possible.
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ColaWhiski 2 weeks ago
British designers did not take a back seat to anybody. It is a slight to say that their excellent war planes had evolved by some kind of magic because designers were under great pressure to out engineer German designers.
EarthRover 2 weeks ago
Bloody difficult to fly. Just read Clostermann's book.
Juicingood 1 month ago
@smilo, who says Tempests replaced P-51s as escorts? That is totally false!
p51dlm22 1 month ago
@p51dlm22; sorry, M8, but smilo is quite right. There was nothing wrong with the P21 once it had the RR engine fitted, but the airframe wasn't capable of carrying the weight of stores - i.e. cannon ammo plus droptanks - to be effective as a long-range escort. P-51's were bloody good at what they were designed for, i.e. as a close-range fighter aircraft, but they didn't have the speed or the clout of the Tiffy or Tempest.
jonnybee48 1 month ago
Typhoons saved Pattons arse..........even Eisenhower said the Typhoon was the most important allied aircraft of the Normandy campaign....Tiger tank crews hated them. The RAF had 26 squadrons of them in June 1944
Aussiephil99 1 month ago
great vid. Agree the Typhoon and Tempest just look menacing. I know this is British Propaganda at its best but they seemed to be pretty accurate with those rockets as well. Did not realise that the Tempest replaced the P51 on bomber escort duty towards the end of the war too.
smilo996 1 month ago
Excellent footage of the early 1a version with the 12 .303 gun wing. Nice Tempest footage too, thanks.
Liddledriver 1 month ago
Gruntol5, put the volume at zero ;p
Tks everybody for your comments!
Michelottob 1 month ago
Very good video, but totally unnecessary music. Thank you and goodnight Jim Crint.
Gruntol5 1 month ago
That chim mounted air scoop made the plane look like a.... well.... a violent Thug.
redbaroniii 1 month ago
See what those 6 inch naval shells can do attached to those rockets. That is why Hitler's tanks became irrelevant. When he lost air superiority in the west, he essentially lost the war. These air craft, armed with these rockets killed any german tank on the battlefield that so much as showed a turrent.
honour123 4 months ago
Thanks for this.
SgtSteel1 4 months ago
real nice footage here.
Spanduer90 5 months ago
And now a bunch of bearded, wife-beating, moslem clerics issue fatwas declaring we must die, and their followers must blow us up with hair gel, and we are reduced to lining up and checking our underwear if we wish to fly to see relativrs across the oceans. Damn we sure betrayed these pilots didn't we...
bcfsl 5 months ago
The Whirlwind had a number of qualities but foremost were it's devastating armament and the fact it got it's pilots home even on one engine and no undercarriage. I think the government were under pressure to get fighters into service and the Spitfire was proving very popular. Problems with the Peregrine engines never helped it's cause even when a Whirlwind II was proposed. It is a shame as I think the Mosquito proved the value of a high performance twin engined fighter.
FrancoHitlini 5 months ago
not sure about the music!!!
MrTubbymarshall 8 months ago
My father was in the 2nd tactical air force.1944. Stationed Belgium and Holland. He mentioned Typhoons taking off from an airfield and the enemy armour was so close
that they would virtually just clear the runway and release their rockets and return immediately for rearming.
banoffee2001 8 months ago
A friend of Tony Johnstone related to me that at one point, when his plane was hit during a battle, my brother stepped out on the wing to bail out, then noticed that the falling plane would land in an inhabited area, so he stepped back in to adjust the gyroscopes so that the plane would avoid that area, he then stepped back out and bailed.
Vierotchka 11 months ago
My brother was a pilot in the 183 Sqdn., Royal Air Force Fighter Command and flew a single-engine Hawker Typhoon. He participated in the Battle of Britain, and died in a crash while test-piloting a modified Typhoon on March 7, 1943. He had been trained in the USA by Tony Johnstone.
Vierotchka 11 months ago
The aircraft shown at 2.02 is the Hawker TEMPEST - as the wing and rudder were a different shape -Can't believe someone disliked the video , however !
73north 1 year ago
@73north Eh?!?! do live in some kind of alternate universe where there are no mindlessly myopic, & spineless, hug-a-dictator pacifists?? 'cause there are plenty where i live in the UK.
Top Vid along with Tempest my all time favourite WWII single engined plane. Did sterling and largely unheralded work during WWII. Down in the mud CAS and ground attack,
with pretty much non of the glamorous profile Spitfires, Hurricanes & their pilots got.
Blowfeld20k 5 months ago
Proved to be arch nemesis of Wehrmacht and SS armored forces in and around Falise 1944
IanHunedoara8 1 year ago
During Operation Goodwood (18th to 21st July) the 2nd Tactical Air Force and 9th USAAF claimed 257 and 134 tanks, respectively, as destroyed. Of these, 222 were claimed by Typhoon pilots using RPs. So what really happened? In the Goodwood area a total of 456 German heavily armoured vehicles were counted, and 301 were examined in detail. They found only 10 could be attributed to Typhoons using RPs (less than 3% of those claimed).
Typhoon pilots were some of biggest liars of WW2.
tranmere789 1 year ago
@tranmere789 you had to be there,I do not know what books you are reading but your information is grossly wrong. The typhoon and laterly the tempest, and not forgetting their incredibly brave pilots made an enormous contribution during the reoccupation of europe ,it wasnt just tanks these boys were targeting!. we should hold these brave pilots in high esteem for their efforts and sacrifices otherwise we could be having this discussion in german or if at all !
lanc101 1 year ago
@lanc101
Unfortunately for air force pilots, there is a small unit usually entitled Research and Analysis which enters a combat area once it is secured. This is and was common in most armies, and the British Army was no different. The job of The Office of Research and Analysis was to look at the results of the tactics and weapons employed during the battle in order to determine their effectiveness (with the objective of improving future tactics and weapons).
tranmere789 1 year ago
@lanc101
You can check the facts:
P. Moore, Operation Goodwood, July 1944; A Corridor of Death, Helion & Company Ltd, Solihull, UK, 2007, p. 171.
N. Zetterling, Normandy 1944, J.J. Fedorowicz Publishing Inc, Winnipeg, Canada, 2000, pp. 38 and 52.
Note, these losses include losses sustained attacking vital rear areas including railroads and bridges, where the real damage to the German effort in Normandy was done.
tranmere789 1 year ago
@tranmere789 Are you going out of your way to be a Troll or do you have an issue with RAF pilots m8 ?? I completely appreciate that there where ( and are still ) big discrepancies in kill claims, for all kinds of combat but particularly air combat. But your more than a bit out of order to blanket tar all Typhoon pilots as "Liars". After all m8 it doesn't take a genius to work out how and why those discrepancies occurred completely accidentally.
Blowfeld20k 5 months ago
@Blowfeld20k How about this...
"The enemy's overwhelming air supremacy makes tachtical manoeuvre virtually impossible. The fighter-bombers even attack individual dispatch riders."
Standartfuhrer Kurt Meyer, SS Hitler Jugend Division on July 17th 1944.
The Typhoon made 'em keep their heads down - as would I have!
Cheers
weirwolfarroo 3 weeks ago
Hi Jolly R
No, I was making a ref to a remark that "Bomber "Harris made when he first saw the effects of the Luftwaffe bombing of London. I think the point was along the lines of " you have now started something that we will finish". War is a horrible thing ( ask the residents of Dresden and Cologne ), but we should all honour those who had to fight, along with those who lost their lives. I think you're right about the Whirlwind plane, though I didnt think it saw active service in WW2
stratking69er 1 year ago
@stratking69er the westland whirlwind was used during ww2 i think right up to 1943, if it had been given merlins instead of using the underpowered Peregrine engine it would have been a world beating aircraft it was way ahead of it's time with 4 hispano cannons and capable of 360 mph in 1939. unfortunatly the demand for melins for spitfires, hurricane, lancaster, and mosquito meant this never happened.
pramboy09 11 months ago
Amazing footage of the Typhoon firing INTO the hanger!
jonewer 1 year ago
@jonewer Question is...Was it a Typhoon. I've seen the same footage used in Fight for the Skies about the USAAF.
JollyRodders 1 year ago
Hurray for the Light Cavalry !!!
Boggoranthius 1 year ago
g'wan lads, give to them sausage suckers ! Sow the wind and reap the whirlwhind !!
stratking69er 1 year ago
@stratking69er Do you mean the Westland Whirlwind..?? You don't see much film showing that twin engined plane.
JollyRodders 1 year ago
The finest fighter-bomber of WW11. Thanks for vid.
12lacroixsouslange 1 year ago
TOP Dokumentum-Clip!
Thank You*****
greetings from Hungary with a pilot greetings:
HAPPY LANDING!
hanaippon 1 year ago
Love it too, a very under rated aircraft of it's time.
solarday 1 year ago
Love it! My Grandad flew Typhoons out of Eindhoven! 168Sdn!!! Awesome 2 see the Videos, but there aint a lot on here or any still flying! Sad!
lupo0144 1 year ago
2:12 - he really nails that Fw190D
GerbilEssences 1 year ago
What a beast :P
GerbilEssences 1 year ago