Part 3 : I will be interested in this story as it is weaved in with the evidence from around the world. This view is just way to isolated and made to suit the meme that trade is good and war is bad. It is one of the many possibilities after initial studies of a very large and complex site. Let's not jump to conclusions before more data analysis and excavation. Remember what we thought about neanderthals until 15 years ago. New evidence turned the theory on its head. That will happen here too.
Part 2 : Science is usually done on the basis of evidence not on the basis of lack of evidence. There might have been wars before the settlement, during the settlement, it might have even ended the settlement, even if no proof of fighting was found. If this was a city of thousands, one peacefully buried baby does not mean peace for a 1000 years. Weapons may have been of great value, and were taken away by warriors after battle, or they may have been made from materials that easily erode.
BBC usually is less preachy than this documentary. I don't believe this is the oldest city, the mesopotamians built cities in 4000 bc, and before that even early stone age peoples had large societies operating together. It might be one of the oldest and best finds, but that still doesn't make it THE mother city. And I don't agree with the conclusion that there WAS a 1000 years of peace. You can't say that for sure at all. Hippie ideals and objective science don't mix.
@vahuamg o watherever is ur name. I think that is not necesary to have more than 1 great city to hv trade. I could also be with small village or even with simple families that could live around that area.
who did they trade with if they were the first civilization--anyone else trading with that city must have been civilized to some degree and progressed in conjunction with Caral--perhaps they should look for a nearby group of cities and towns that grew up at the same time to confirm there theory
They just spent ten minutes speculating on baby-killing and then ended it by saying that isn't what was found. Next time start with the "this wasn't a human sacrifice" and use the rest of the time telling us what is known, rather than what will look good on an advert. Dicks.
@Caracalla23 : you belong to a civilization that has no history besides war and conquest and yet you have the nerve to refer to this Civilization which by all standards was more peaceful than yours will ever be savage?
No gunfight at the OK Caral.
DidivsIvlianvs 1 month ago
This a Anunnaki place in South America.. The Enlitita's place......
CosminhoPacetta 1 month ago
so i guess civilization was born from trading?
AlbertInSanAntonio 1 month ago
Part 3 : I will be interested in this story as it is weaved in with the evidence from around the world. This view is just way to isolated and made to suit the meme that trade is good and war is bad. It is one of the many possibilities after initial studies of a very large and complex site. Let's not jump to conclusions before more data analysis and excavation. Remember what we thought about neanderthals until 15 years ago. New evidence turned the theory on its head. That will happen here too.
gladtobeangry 7 months ago
@gladtobeangry agreed a hundred percent. besides that the evidence they used was anecdotal at best SO ? one babiy is burried- so what?
what about the fires etc
could be for sacrifice. they NEVER Discussed religion on the whole thing etc.
basically, its a new finding, to make a doccu, they had to make it dramatic.
still something seems fucked up about trying to attach a message behind it a..
not to mentnion TRADE can be absolutely a cause for war.
today usa gets money from banks to fund war
poosaypirate 4 months ago
@poosaypirate bombs made in china, banks from Europe
supplies global
go figure
poosaypirate 4 months ago
Part 2 : Science is usually done on the basis of evidence not on the basis of lack of evidence. There might have been wars before the settlement, during the settlement, it might have even ended the settlement, even if no proof of fighting was found. If this was a city of thousands, one peacefully buried baby does not mean peace for a 1000 years. Weapons may have been of great value, and were taken away by warriors after battle, or they may have been made from materials that easily erode.
gladtobeangry 7 months ago
BBC usually is less preachy than this documentary. I don't believe this is the oldest city, the mesopotamians built cities in 4000 bc, and before that even early stone age peoples had large societies operating together. It might be one of the oldest and best finds, but that still doesn't make it THE mother city. And I don't agree with the conclusion that there WAS a 1000 years of peace. You can't say that for sure at all. Hippie ideals and objective science don't mix.
gladtobeangry 7 months ago
Sorry. I meant to say some of the Morricone score!
andrewleslieleslie4 7 months ago
The music for this documentary is Ennio Morricones score for John Carpenters The Thing.
andrewleslieleslie4 7 months ago
8:30 " i can't have a 1000 yrs of peace...." maybe he can't ,but these people sure did.
interstellarwonder 8 months ago
A BBC documentary - absolute first class
austpom333 11 months ago 2
So rely you can say that civilization was formed from farming development - not trade
austpom333 11 months ago
could mean Inca empire was 5,000 years old and built on trade instead of war as supposed.
TheEviIOyo 11 months ago
@vahuamg o watherever is ur name. I think that is not necesary to have more than 1 great city to hv trade. I could also be with small village or even with simple families that could live around that area.
drekuk 1 year ago
who did they trade with if they were the first civilization--anyone else trading with that city must have been civilized to some degree and progressed in conjunction with Caral--perhaps they should look for a nearby group of cities and towns that grew up at the same time to confirm there theory
vaughangarrick 1 year ago
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elgranqenk 1 year ago
I love this video too,
people are so certain that war is a part of us, when right now, more people are dying from disease and cancer then war has ever done
millions of peoples in north and south america were quite peaceful before the arrival of the europeans that tried to erase so many civilizations
and it really is trade, that has made us so advanced, trading ideas. helping eachother
yellowfellow 1 year ago
I imagine western civilization will be looked at different ly in 1000 years.... the war like, bloodthirsty savages that destroyed themselves.
riverice7 1 year ago
They just spent ten minutes speculating on baby-killing and then ended it by saying that isn't what was found. Next time start with the "this wasn't a human sacrifice" and use the rest of the time telling us what is known, rather than what will look good on an advert. Dicks.
jacksawild 1 year ago
@jacksawild obbviously you absorb nothing you hear phukface
thoostorm4 10 months ago
Hahahaha! I hear you, bro. But I think they just wanted to add some suspense to the documentary.
jeffdoeskungfu 1 year ago
God bless commercial activity.
jeffdoeskungfu 1 year ago
everything was peace and then they throw blood on you. shkshkshk
its time my sisters and brothers
sharedfaith 2 years ago
Incredible.
JayPhilosopher 2 years ago
The desperate quest for the peaceful noble savage.
Caracalla23 2 years ago
@Caracalla23 : you belong to a civilization that has no history besides war and conquest and yet you have the nerve to refer to this Civilization which by all standards was more peaceful than yours will ever be savage?
Indigineous 1 year ago
lol i hear that..
LATINOFOLYF 2 years ago
i love this video
Xochitpilli 2 years ago 6