TPMtv: '08 Roundup: Episode #6

[Dresden718]

VOTE RON PAUL and end this fiasco.

[fishhead06]

Doesn't it seem odd that so much significance should be invested in these events. Choosing delegates for a nominating convention in two small states? Why is it so portentous?

[Sinistertino]

i ask that same question all the time

[geargemartin]

representative governments are full of compromises. the idea is to have smaller states have a voice in the selection of nominees and have the larger states influence the final choice. this way smaller states won't feel "steam rolled" by the larger states and the smaller states can have a say in our political process.

[3456ws]

Who are these pollsters, and why should we trust them? They are excuses to justify ignoring certain candidates who the polls' owners, big media, don't like. Polls also make it easier to steal elections because, invariably they are neck and neck at election day. Presidential polls are lies.

[bfayer]

Barak wins imo

[jokertim777]

Poll this, poll that, please tell me what to think. Polls are more effective at shaping outcomes than predicting them. Learn about sample sizes, question techniques, and who pays for all these polls. Hey, did you hear, it's going to be cloudy tommorrow. I wonder how that will impact the race? Which candidate can capitilize on the condensation of water vapor? Better do another poll...

[radgeek01]

Josh, I normally find your commentary pretty accurate but I gotta challenge you when you say Huckabee is "starting to flame out." I think lots of current poll would contradict that.(Not that I'm a Huckabee supporter, just making a point).

[chaostherie]

why do you trust these polls

????

[F4O4U4R4S]

if mccain wins then you know for sure that its rigged, the guy is a warhawk,70 something percent of americans want this war to end but somehow myteriously the warhawk mccain now has a good chance of winning! yeah right!

[JeremyBlueDuck79]

You're forgetting that the 30% of Americans who love this war are the majority of the GOP base.

[craigcrippen]

The media loves whichever CFR candidate has the best chance of winning. Because if CFR member Hillary wins, they win, if CFR member John McCain wins, they win. And America and its freedom loses!

[HOSSER10580]

RON PAUL IS TAKING IT !!!

[Fringe111]

Ron Paul is losing support.

[SpinNewsSpin]

Where i nthe WORLD do you get that?

[TrevorJNoyes]

McCain are you kidding ???? Wake America vote Ron Paul. End the war take back your freedom. this is scary.

[annarboriter]

aie! another mindless bit of speculation without substance. Don't the types like Matthews and his ilk do enough of this already?

[waynefoolx]

good video josh!

[PiFan7]

It's fun to see davisfleetwood at 4:40!

[mick6885]

If it ends up being McCain V. Obama in the end.

Either way...America (& the world) wins.

[thethunderbird]

I want Obama to pull it out--and then ask McCain to run on the bottom half of the Presidential ticket.

[h2oholic]

DOOF check out the AOL STRAW POLL

[voyzovrezon]

Interesting that he didn't mention Huckabee. I thought he was in the lead in Iowa and New Hampshire. I guess it depends on what polls your looking at.

[Xenu]

Best bet for the Republicans is a Romney/McCain ticket. Best bet for Democrats is an Obama/Edwards ticket. Either way, I'm voting Nader.

[PreetSG]

I think it would be wiser for McCain to go for Colin Powell if he wins, particularly if he runs against Obama. On the Dem side, it would be best to have a Obama/ Biden ticket. They are the only ones that can get some votes off the Rep Base. In reality though, McCain and Romney's VP candidate would most likely be Brownback and Obama would most likely take Chuck Hagel as VP. Clinton's motive are less clear but she most likely would choose Bill Richardson..

[Michaelwolf2006]

Why assume the ticket has to be two of the current Dem nominees? I would say a Obama/Jim Webb ticket would pick off way more republicans. Remember - James Webb was Secretary of the Navy under Reagan and can blow any republican nominee out of the water from a military experience perscpective.

[PreetSG]

Bro, Chuck Hagel is Republican... I like Biden as he is a close associate of many Rep and I like many of his views...

[TormentedByDemons]

Colin Powell? Look, if McCain wanted to destroy Hillary and Obama in one move he'd pick *Condoleeza* as his running mate. NO ONE would challenge that ticket.

[PreetSG]

No! She would be destroyed! She is not loved by the left and loved not enough by the right and center. Colin Powell is the darling of the center and respected by both far right and left. Plus he is the hero of many soldiers when he defined a new style of logistics based warfare, a style can match Maharbal crossing the Alps... (You need to be in the army to understand that..)

[laleeloolelo]

"a style can match Maharbal crossing the Alps"

Don't you mean Hannibal?

[PreetSG]

Hannibal was the general; Maharbal was the one in charge of Logistics and calvary under Hannibal and it was he and his men that was tasked to come up with ways to cross the Alps... But saying that Hannibal crossing the Alps is not wrong either.

[RevolutionaryJam]

McCain = Dick Cheney...

...oh dear

[DrCrYz]

who the fuck is voteing for mcain or romney I mean come on ffs america wtf is wrong with you fucking people. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD VOTE THESE FUCKING SCUM IN ...........

[wntoply6]

the republicans don't have a good choice among any of the shitheads running. none are any good, so they are only voting for the lesser evil.

they're all clowns and they're all losers.

[alnewberry]

Morons, that's who. ;-)

[intarwebzz]

no mention of ron paul, eh?

[agentaerick]

probably because ron paul is a hack.

[EducatedNobody]

A hack? A hack with 19 million bucks! hoe much you got in your pocket?

[HorsemasterK]

19 million that he can't seem to turn into poll numbers.

[alnewberry]

I guess you're right if your definition of hack is "one who has principles and inspires actual excitement among voters."

[agentaerick]

so much excitement that hardly anyone knows anything about him?

[alnewberry]

Thanks to the whoring media, of course. I guess hardly anyone includes the 58,000 people who donated over 6 million to his campaign in one day, or the 37,000 who donated 4.3 million in one day. Yeah, hardly anyone knows about him. Only those who pay attention.

[agentaerick]

so because 1 out of ever 5200 people in this nation donated money to him, you can call that excitement? you are right, only those who pay attention to him are the one who know anything about him.

get over it, ron paul doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. give it up and support a different candidate.

[alnewberry]

Yeah, 1 out of every 5200 people, most of whom don't vote. I'll only support a candidate who I can trust, whether or not he or she eventually wins.

Fact is, Ron Paul is generating excitement in a great many new voters, who will show up to vote in primaries. His results will be bigger than expected, although he is a long shot.

[agentaerick]

think what you will.

[alnewberry]

Thank you. I always do. And you keep thinking what the MSM tells you to. ;-) Just teasing.

[EducatedNobody]

Ok, I think your a tool! Thats one point for me and freedom of speech! woot!

[JeremyBlueDuck79]

Josh Marshall is a journalist who covers a WIDE variety of topics (including Ron Paul; see his post at TPM yesterday afternoon which is relevant here). Sorry that he doesn't meet your requirements of 24/7 RP obsession.

Besides, this video is discussing the frontrunners. While RP may have lots of money, he is still not registering in polls, is way down there with Alan Keyes. Unless or until he does well in Iowa, he's not worth mentioning.

[dafttool]

I would much rather see McCain be nominated over Romney or Giuliani. He at least is relatively genuine as opposed to fake or a thug. Up until 9/11, McCain was much more independent and moderate than he was partisan. Since then though, he has been a disappointment. His principled stand against torture, bucking the GOP's wishes, is one of the few reminders of the man he used to be.

[roullettechick]

I feel like Im watching a sports show or something. How could anyone vote for that romney guy? I hope people educate themselves a bit and consider the candidates rationally and based on their policy. Lets prove to the world that were not dumb asses!

[swisbeagle]

Thanks for keeping us updated. :-) I appreciate all your videos and hard work.

[logosfabula]

These polls are not more demographic at all

[MrMP81]

Axiom I love and support Ron Paul also but slow down with the spam of him.

TPM, we all know that polls are made up of 1,000 people at best with some ( like Paul ) not even put into Polls so the poll is not even close to fair.

[housebrand]

Of the 13 polls that comprise the total Dec. NH GOP, the sloppy average of participants is 477.

October holds a poll with 1082 participants by a strange news agency called InsiderAdvantage.