When the "queen 后" becomes the "behind 後" and is also "thick 厚", when the "face 面" becomes "noodle 麵", and when "need 須" becomes "beard 鬚", THEY MUST HAVE COMPLETELY LOST THEIR MINDS CONJURING UP the simplified Chinese. It was an insult to the intelligence of the Chinese peasants originally intended. It is NOW an insult to any one who uses it.
The Pinyin developed by the Communist Chinese (originally intended to wipe out the Chinese culture altogether) has not only murdered the Chinese language learning for native Chinese as well as foreigners. It has also muttered native Chinese speakers’ ability to learn a real spelling language, like English. The right way and only way to learn Chinese (Mandarin) is to learn ㄅ,ㄆ,ㄇ,ㄈ.
Chinese (Mandarin) is NOT a spelling language. Chinese pronunciations are integrated not sequential. In a spelling language like English, you pronounce the consonants/vowels in sequence according to its spelling order. In Mandarin, you integrate the phonemes (at most 2) together to produce an integral sound. Mandarin has 37 phonetic symbols to form 59 unique phonemes, which are used to generate 417 unique integrated sounds w/ various tones. Mandarin is easy. Pinyin is complete rubbish.
In this video, the chap uttered (ㄅㄜ,ㄆㄜ,ㄇㄜ,ㄈㄜ) for (ㄅ,ㄆ,ㄇ,ㄈ). The correct utterance should be (ㄅㄛ,ㄆㄛ,ㄇㄛ,ㄈㄛ). In Mandarin, (ㄅ,ㄆ,ㄇ,ㄈ) are NEVER combined w/ ㄜ, except for (ㄇㄜ˙) as in 什麼(ㄇㄜ˙).
I dont know where you learnt your Chinese. what I wanna say is Taiwanese use Pinyin, too (like english letters). Also 'b p m f' are 4 of the initails of Chinese Pinyin. We call initails - 声母(sheng mu), 声means 'sound', bcz 声母 decide how we sound each Chinese character.
You should tell people what Chinese you are teaching here, and where to use - Taiwan or Mainland China, so people will not get confused
Your pronunciation of ㄛ is a little close to ㄡ. ㄛ isn't squashed at the end with the long "u" as ㄡ is. Contrast 火 (fire) to 頭 (head).
Also use robot voice (1st tone) when pronouncing 注音符號.
This and last comment show utility of 注音符號 for learning correct pronunciation of basic Mandarin phonemes. One can tell, from knowledge of English pronunciation, when non-native speaker has learned Mandarin using pinyin. I commend your study of 注音符號. The rare person who studies it has better pronunciation.
I use a different stroke order for ㄏ. Top first, left to right, then pick up the pen and write the downstroke. Same as writing Chinese characters. But maybe for 注音 it doesn't matter.
Also your ㄐpronunciation sounds like English pronunciation of "G" -- lips puckered a little at the beginning. No puckering, otherwise it sounds just a little like the beginning of ㄓ. Lips should should almost be smiling, as with pronunciation of 雞 (chicken) or 機 (machine).
very good! rare people who are learning chinese know ㄅㄆㄇㄈ is better explanation for learning chinese without messing up with original Rome characters pronounce.
Keep up your studying--you have a gift for language and I am VERY impressed at your multi-languages skills. Hope you are still studying languages nowadays.
You con't useㄅㄆㄇㄈin China! ㄅㄆㄇㄈ is used by Taiwan different conbination of the ㄅㄆㄇㄈ show the different pronunciation of each Chinese letter Taiwan use the traditional Chinese China use the simply Chinese for example: 工厂(Chinese)= 工廠(Taiwan)= factory(America) 工= gong=ㄍㄨㄥ 廠= chang= ㄔㄤˇ= 厂(simply Chinese) ㄍ=go, X=on, ㄥ=ng ㄔ=cha, ㄤˇ= ng althoughㄥ=ng=ㄤˇ=ng but they are different
With all due respect, I don't think that zhuyin fuhao has never been taught in the mainland, but is only taught in Taiwan. I bought a few Chinese-Chinese dictionaries in Mainland China just last month, and the romanisation that they use is pinyin.
Also, I believe that Tongyong Pinyin is used in Taiwan rather than Wade-Giles nowadays.
注音符號 is a great tool and it eases the confusion that comes from looking at letters and saying different sounds (比如: c = ㄘ / z =ㄗ ...).
There is also an extended set of phonetic symbols called 台語注音符號 which are useful for learning 台語 or 閩南語. Also if you get annotated editions of ancient Chinese texts, they'll have 注音符號 for obscure words, which helps a lot.
Please let me know what was harder to learn chinese or my language persian/farsi. Thanks . I as well have embarked on the journey of learning many languages and now you are my motivation. Please keep it up man. By the way where are you from ???
Yeah it might be pointless to you but I could very well say the same thing about learning a tongue that uses the latin script.. There's no difference in learning the latin alphabet and getting to know what 'A' or 'B' sounds like and so on, and learning bopomofo and getting to know what 'ㄅ' or 'ㄆ' sounds like. You're only saying pinyin is more logical because it's easy for you as you're already well acquainted with the latin alphabet!
I'd recently discovered that my pinyin-based pronunciation resulted in *very* incorrect pronunciation of over ten chinese sounds. Simply, there are sounds that exist in languages that aren't in English (and vice versa), so it's slightly misleading so say 'x'=''sh' and 'q'='ch' for example.
I had to totally re-learn the sounds ㄓㄔ ㄕ ㄖ from scratch to have proper (non-embarrassing) pronunciation. Tying them to English sounds and characters I knew just didn't work.
wuut? we learned the "alphabet", or this bopomofo stuff in school too but we learned it in pynyn. and then i tried asking my teacher if there is a character to every sound so you could just make a word with souds and write it in characters.. u kno like in any other language.... like u have a letter to every sound, i asked if there was a character to every sound.. and she said no. but ur writing characters so there is a character 4 every sound? then y doesn't 叫 end with "zh" ?
If you've studied Chinese in mainland China or any other place other than Taiwan, you won't learn the BOPOMOFO system. Perhaps there are places where you could learn, but it's rare to learn this system outside of Taiwan.
Most schools will teach you pin yin instead. I would consider learning both systems which will benefit you a lot.
I'm not sure why that teacher told you that, but yes, there is a system which has letters according to their sounds.
Can you tell me what benefit(s) you will have if you learn BOPOMOFO system? (other than that BOPOMOFO system actually is the abstracted parts from Chinese characters, if you learned to write them, you also learned to write a lot Chinese character parts. )
Well, you would definitely be able to type traditional characters on the computer with native Taiwanese. Not only that, it forces you to know the tone for each word unlike pin yin. So I guess I could say that it helps tonation.
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When the "queen 后" becomes the "behind 後" and is also "thick 厚", when the "face 面" becomes "noodle 麵", and when "need 須" becomes "beard 鬚", THEY MUST HAVE COMPLETELY LOST THEIR MINDS CONJURING UP the simplified Chinese. It was an insult to the intelligence of the Chinese peasants originally intended. It is NOW an insult to any one who uses it.
DrSpeakwell 3 months ago
The Pinyin developed by the Communist Chinese (originally intended to wipe out the Chinese culture altogether) has not only murdered the Chinese language learning for native Chinese as well as foreigners. It has also muttered native Chinese speakers’ ability to learn a real spelling language, like English. The right way and only way to learn Chinese (Mandarin) is to learn ㄅ,ㄆ,ㄇ,ㄈ.
DrSpeakwell 3 months ago
Chinese (Mandarin) is NOT a spelling language. Chinese pronunciations are integrated not sequential. In a spelling language like English, you pronounce the consonants/vowels in sequence according to its spelling order. In Mandarin, you integrate the phonemes (at most 2) together to produce an integral sound. Mandarin has 37 phonetic symbols to form 59 unique phonemes, which are used to generate 417 unique integrated sounds w/ various tones. Mandarin is easy. Pinyin is complete rubbish.
DrSpeakwell 3 months ago
In this video, the chap uttered (ㄅㄜ,ㄆㄜ,ㄇㄜ,ㄈㄜ) for (ㄅ,ㄆ,ㄇ,ㄈ). The correct utterance should be (ㄅㄛ,ㄆㄛ,ㄇㄛ,ㄈㄛ). In Mandarin, (ㄅ,ㄆ,ㄇ,ㄈ) are NEVER combined w/ ㄜ, except for (ㄇㄜ˙) as in 什麼(ㄇㄜ˙).
DrSpeakwell 3 months ago
i will attempt to list all pingyins :3
a o e i u u(2 dots above it)
b p m f d t n l g k h j q x zh ch sh r z c h
ai ei ao ou an en ang eng ong
ia ie ian iou ing iang iong
ua uo ui uan uen uang ueng uong
*ue uan uong*
*with 2 dots on the "u"
Others: "w" represent "u" e.g. wu
"y" represent "i" and *"u" e.g. yi and yu
boilpoil 5 months ago
lol a black O.G talking in Chinese... must be a Wu-Tang Clan member :)
Pumpernickel006900 6 months ago
I dont know where you learnt your Chinese. what I wanna say is Taiwanese use Pinyin, too (like english letters). Also 'b p m f' are 4 of the initails of Chinese Pinyin. We call initails - 声母(sheng mu), 声means 'sound', bcz 声母 decide how we sound each Chinese character.
You should tell people what Chinese you are teaching here, and where to use - Taiwan or Mainland China, so people will not get confused
JiaoLaoshi 7 months ago
Hey there. I'm from Dayton. I am learning Mandarin also. Cool video. Thanks!
g00glian0 9 months ago
Good Job!=)
JOOXA389 9 months ago
is your teacher chinese or taiwanese ?
samuel40301 10 months ago
@samuel40301 My wife is Taiwanese.
laoshu505000 10 months ago 12
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This is sooo cool--I love that a Brother can teach me CHINESE along with the other languages you speak---Thank You-- Your Language Soul Sister
watchn22 1 year ago
@watchn22 Where are you from by the way?
laoshu505000 1 year ago
Also your pronunciation of the "tongue roll" sounds, ㄓㄔㄕㄖ, are spot on. Those are the most difficult Mandarin sounds to master.
battleofjericho 1 year ago
Your pronunciation of ㄛ is a little close to ㄡ. ㄛ isn't squashed at the end with the long "u" as ㄡ is. Contrast 火 (fire) to 頭 (head).
Also use robot voice (1st tone) when pronouncing 注音符號.
This and last comment show utility of 注音符號 for learning correct pronunciation of basic Mandarin phonemes. One can tell, from knowledge of English pronunciation, when non-native speaker has learned Mandarin using pinyin. I commend your study of 注音符號. The rare person who studies it has better pronunciation.
battleofjericho 1 year ago
I use a different stroke order for ㄏ. Top first, left to right, then pick up the pen and write the downstroke. Same as writing Chinese characters. But maybe for 注音 it doesn't matter.
Also your ㄐpronunciation sounds like English pronunciation of "G" -- lips puckered a little at the beginning. No puckering, otherwise it sounds just a little like the beginning of ㄓ. Lips should should almost be smiling, as with pronunciation of 雞 (chicken) or 機 (machine).
battleofjericho 1 year ago
注音符"號" :]
daisyo12345o 1 year ago
ㄐㄧㄚ 一ㄡˊ ! ㄏㄣˇ ㄏㄠˇ!
Ivellios49 1 year ago
you do a good job!!
I am Taiwanese
o00593 1 year ago
I just type the all in here.
ㄅㄆㄇㄈ ㄉㄊㄋㄌ ㄍㄎㄏ
ㄐㄑㄒ
ㄓㄔㄕㄖ ㄗㄘㄙ
一ㄨㄩ ㄚㄛㄜㄝ
ㄞㄟㄠㄡ ㄢㄣㄤㄥ
anitaguh 1 year ago 4
Ah, cool, you're from Akron? I went there once ... isn't it near Cuyahuga Falls? Enjoying the videos! -Brian
BrianonLanguage 1 year ago
@BrianonLanguage Yea, I was born in Akron. Yep, Cuyahoga Falls is right down the street from the H.S. I graduated from. Akron's a smaaaal city!
laoshu505000 1 year ago
lol - looks like Hiragana for borrowed words!
Sablicious 1 year ago
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kai7717 1 year ago
「ㄊ」寫錯囉!外國人背「ㄅㄆㄇ」真的好辛苦!恭喜你背起來嚕!
pipa2255 1 year ago
finally i got sth to teach my amercian friend,thaaanks mein xxx me likey it,nice job duh!!!
SwaggaliciousKeedah 1 year ago
any human being can speak any language if they have the motivation, that is what I believe.
Codylangaugesblog 1 year ago
awesome handwriting!
PinkIcexMellow 1 year ago
you're good man, i saw many videos that you spoke some languages, awesome <3
kk4769 1 year ago
不错啊,拼音我都没学会。
兄弟,有空就要多做些汉语视频教程吧。
你的视频教程非常好。
请允许我以上面评论向你表示敬意!!!
hi dude, great work!
YouTuGood 1 year ago 2
发噶 你噶
Mrshifengzhou 2 years ago
very good! rare people who are learning chinese know ㄅㄆㄇㄈ is better explanation for learning chinese without messing up with original Rome characters pronounce.
samer820 2 years ago
Keep up your studying--you have a gift for language and I am VERY impressed at your multi-languages skills. Hope you are still studying languages nowadays.
BJ2046 2 years ago
Wow, this is awesome. Chinese is definitely a hard language even for Chinese people, but it can be done. Keep at it! And good luck.
I love you.
acumen321 2 years ago
for foreigners, it is better to use the taiwanese method ( based from experience)
im a taiwanese..
icygreenful 2 years ago
try Cantonese, give yourself a challenge mate
kryptonite747 2 years ago
good,Chinese is diffcult,keep going on!never give up~
加油,兄弟~~
ahuang930124 2 years ago
wow, I'm beijing, I have never learned Chinese this way.....fascinating......
jianfeibai 2 years ago
so, ㄅㄆㄇㄈ(b, p, m, f,) is better than rome phonetic
PS.I come from Taiwan :)
Taiwan use the ㄅㄆㄇㄈ
and China use the rome phonetic
a0952148886 2 years ago
there is no such thing as "better". it's just about preference, and more importantly, popularity.
ppw8626 2 years ago
a0952148886 2 years ago 12
@a0952148886 and your point is?
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ching.. chang.. chong.. goof lesson for all of u..
MrDaldagnuur 2 years ago
how many languages are your learning ? how can u remember them?
omggmod 2 years ago
you misspelled ㄊ
pedro6102 2 years ago
Thanks.
laoshu505000 2 years ago
that's very interesting
chikenamorada 2 years ago
i dont really speak japanese but i sing it. its really cool=]
vyvanvu 2 years ago
is chinese not japanese
mario1234camachos 2 years ago 3
you should learn japanese too=]
vyvanvu 2 years ago
Thank for this video!! I am learning chinese (mandarin) and this video was important for me!
sorrypapawxz 2 years ago
Your writing of "ㄊ" is not right actually : )
ckshkid 2 years ago 7
oh, ok.
laoshu505000 2 years ago
Laoshu,
I applaud your efforts. You should consider spending a year or so in Taiwan or China.
Regarding some of your comments though:
I think that the bo-po-mo-fo method is taught to children in both mainland China and Taiwan so they know how to pronounce characters.
Pinyin, like you said, is a method of romanizing Chinese, but I think it's mainly for foreigners who don't want to learn Chinese characters.
Taiwan has a system for romanizing Chinese also. It's called the Wade-Giles system.
mantisboxer 2 years ago
That's interesting. I've never heard of the Wade-Giles system.
laoshu505000 2 years ago
@mantisboxer
With all due respect, I don't think that zhuyin fuhao has never been taught in the mainland, but is only taught in Taiwan. I bought a few Chinese-Chinese dictionaries in Mainland China just last month, and the romanisation that they use is pinyin.
Also, I believe that Tongyong Pinyin is used in Taiwan rather than Wade-Giles nowadays.
Zac2333 1 year ago
Oops! I rated 2/5 by accident, supposed to be 5/5!
kev1zhong 2 years ago
whats with the hat? something special bout it???
PhoFanatic 2 years ago
Yea, it's my trademark.
laoshu505000 2 years ago
You are awesome!
boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago
注音符號 is a great tool and it eases the confusion that comes from looking at letters and saying different sounds (比如: c = ㄘ / z =ㄗ ...).
There is also an extended set of phonetic symbols called 台語注音符號 which are useful for learning 台語 or 閩南語. Also if you get annotated editions of ancient Chinese texts, they'll have 注音符號 for obscure words, which helps a lot.
Just work on ㄐ ㄑ ㄒ and ㄓㄔ ㄕ ㄖ
Keep it up, man!
whodidyouexpect 2 years ago
Please let me know what was harder to learn chinese or my language persian/farsi. Thanks . I as well have embarked on the journey of learning many languages and now you are my motivation. Please keep it up man. By the way where are you from ???
RUSHEM24 3 years ago
Bopomofo is the most pointless waste of time ever. Like going from A to Z to get to B.
Pinyin is the most logical and accurate system, but is frowned on in Taiwan for political reasons - not linguistic ones.
mb14uk 3 years ago
Yeah it might be pointless to you but I could very well say the same thing about learning a tongue that uses the latin script.. There's no difference in learning the latin alphabet and getting to know what 'A' or 'B' sounds like and so on, and learning bopomofo and getting to know what 'ㄅ' or 'ㄆ' sounds like. You're only saying pinyin is more logical because it's easy for you as you're already well acquainted with the latin alphabet!
vlag 2 years ago
I'd recently discovered that my pinyin-based pronunciation resulted in *very* incorrect pronunciation of over ten chinese sounds. Simply, there are sounds that exist in languages that aren't in English (and vice versa), so it's slightly misleading so say 'x'=''sh' and 'q'='ch' for example.
I had to totally re-learn the sounds ㄓㄔ ㄕ ㄖ from scratch to have proper (non-embarrassing) pronunciation. Tying them to English sounds and characters I knew just didn't work.
Great work, Moses!
davidpeachey 2 years ago
wuut? we learned the "alphabet", or this bopomofo stuff in school too but we learned it in pynyn. and then i tried asking my teacher if there is a character to every sound so you could just make a word with souds and write it in characters.. u kno like in any other language.... like u have a letter to every sound, i asked if there was a character to every sound.. and she said no. but ur writing characters so there is a character 4 every sound? then y doesn't 叫 end with "zh" ?
kittygirl792 3 years ago
If you've studied Chinese in mainland China or any other place other than Taiwan, you won't learn the BOPOMOFO system. Perhaps there are places where you could learn, but it's rare to learn this system outside of Taiwan.
Most schools will teach you pin yin instead. I would consider learning both systems which will benefit you a lot.
I'm not sure why that teacher told you that, but yes, there is a system which has letters according to their sounds.
Actually 叫 would be spelled as 'jiao'
laoshu505000 3 years ago
ooooh .. chinese is super complicated.. thanx
kittygirl792 3 years ago
I wouldn't say super complicated. The characters are difficult, but you could do it.
laoshu505000 3 years ago
Can you tell me what benefit(s) you will have if you learn BOPOMOFO system? (other than that BOPOMOFO system actually is the abstracted parts from Chinese characters, if you learned to write them, you also learned to write a lot Chinese character parts. )
meienmarler 2 years ago
Well, you would definitely be able to type traditional characters on the computer with native Taiwanese. Not only that, it forces you to know the tone for each word unlike pin yin. So I guess I could say that it helps tonation.
laoshu505000 2 years ago
I love bo po mo fo!!!!!
There are tons of great books from Taiwan using bo po mo fo. Great to learn to read han zi with really neat stories, etc.
You rule!!!
hrpharold 3 years ago
wow man
i just find this .. this is really cool.
I can show my friend who want to learn chinese ~
inputmycd 3 years ago
ya, actually I am from Taiwan.
aklyl 3 years ago
是么? 台湾的哪里?
laoshu505000 3 years ago
台北
aklyl 3 years ago
酷~ 很高兴认识了你。 希望你会继续看我做的录音。 后会有期。
laoshu505000 3 years ago
ㄈㄚ 一ㄣ ㄏㄠˇ ㄆ一ㄠˋ ㄌ一ㄤˋ!
發 音 好 漂 亮!
Beautiful pronunciation!
aklyl 3 years ago
hahahahaha! 好像你也会注音啊
laoshu505000 3 years ago
ㄈㄚ 一ㄣ ㄏㄠˇ ㄆ一ㄠˋ ㄌ一ㄤˋ
發 音 好 漂 亮
aklyl 3 years ago
hahahahahahahahhahah bopomofo ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! -shujincell
SHUJINCELL 3 years ago
I liked this.
Bopomofo owns. :)
ILuvEire 3 years ago