Here is another bit of pyscoanlizing, Garak in the role of the villein in Bashir's mind, suggests that Bashir is an equal to Garak when it comes to deception.
Garak may still see the vision of himself that he once was back in The Order, but in the end during War, he stuck his neck out for the Federation. Yes, he loved his homeland and yes he was a patriot, but deep down I think that life on DS9 humanized him more than he'd like to admit. There were more than a few occasions he could have sold them all out and he didn't. It wasn't because he didn't realized he could do it, it was because he chose not to. He threw in his dice with the Federation.
Actually, the only reason he threw his dice with the Federation was so that he could use them to free Cardassia. Everything he does is for his world. While he was affected by his time on DS9 and befriending the races and allies of the Federation, he will always choose Cardassia. He was raised all his life to serve it.
@blossommorphine There is merit with what you're saying. And I'm not saying that you're all wrong. Garak was first & foremost a patriot. What I'm saying is that there were a few times where it could have gone the other way. There was once or twice where he stuck his neck out for them, and he didn't have to, and he did it anyway. He had a bridge post on the Defiant for crying-out-loud. He COULD have sold them all out to the Dominion & named his price for their heads. And he didn't. That's all.
@blossommorphine Perhaps I'm romanticizing Garak. But seeing his complete body of work I feel like I know Garak pretty well. He is still dangerous, but he's not quite the same man who first showed up at the station. It's like Quark said, The Fed has a way of crawling under the skin & changing you more than you realize. In the Order he was viper, but on DS9, among humans & Fed values, I think he grew as a person. In the Order I don't think he ever had real friend. And it changed him. It grew him.
@blossommorphine I would say that there is a little more to that. The fact that he hated to interrogate Odo and then didn't share his secret shows that Garak learned compassion. Fun part is and I don't know how intentional this is but mammals have a great evolutionary bases for compassion while reptiles don't but among sentient species compassion should prove very useful.
Would those two just go shag already?
estelgreenleaf 2 months ago 4
Here is another bit of pyscoanlizing, Garak in the role of the villein in Bashir's mind, suggests that Bashir is an equal to Garak when it comes to deception.
rad4life1 4 months ago
"you survived because you are strong". No, he survived because he is Genetically Engineered
porpus99 4 months ago
@porpus99 Yes. I'd like to think that this was a hint about that.
The first of many.
Archedgar 2 months ago
I like how Bashir thinks he's joking. XD
InsurrectionistFungi 4 months ago
Garak may still see the vision of himself that he once was back in The Order, but in the end during War, he stuck his neck out for the Federation. Yes, he loved his homeland and yes he was a patriot, but deep down I think that life on DS9 humanized him more than he'd like to admit. There were more than a few occasions he could have sold them all out and he didn't. It wasn't because he didn't realized he could do it, it was because he chose not to. He threw in his dice with the Federation.
sunnchilde 6 months ago 3
@sunnchilde
Actually, the only reason he threw his dice with the Federation was so that he could use them to free Cardassia. Everything he does is for his world. While he was affected by his time on DS9 and befriending the races and allies of the Federation, he will always choose Cardassia. He was raised all his life to serve it.
blossommorphine 5 months ago
@blossommorphine There is merit with what you're saying. And I'm not saying that you're all wrong. Garak was first & foremost a patriot. What I'm saying is that there were a few times where it could have gone the other way. There was once or twice where he stuck his neck out for them, and he didn't have to, and he did it anyway. He had a bridge post on the Defiant for crying-out-loud. He COULD have sold them all out to the Dominion & named his price for their heads. And he didn't. That's all.
sunnchilde 5 months ago
@blossommorphine Perhaps I'm romanticizing Garak. But seeing his complete body of work I feel like I know Garak pretty well. He is still dangerous, but he's not quite the same man who first showed up at the station. It's like Quark said, The Fed has a way of crawling under the skin & changing you more than you realize. In the Order he was viper, but on DS9, among humans & Fed values, I think he grew as a person. In the Order I don't think he ever had real friend. And it changed him. It grew him.
sunnchilde 5 months ago
@blossommorphine I would say that there is a little more to that. The fact that he hated to interrogate Odo and then didn't share his secret shows that Garak learned compassion. Fun part is and I don't know how intentional this is but mammals have a great evolutionary bases for compassion while reptiles don't but among sentient species compassion should prove very useful.
BradTroika 2 months ago
Go on, Garak, give Bashir a little peck on the cheek. You know you want to.
Gragthor 7 months ago 6
@Gragthor I think he wants to do MORE than that!
Cassadinegirlaz 2 months ago
Sweeeeeet! :-)
Lerrinus 7 months ago
Bashir's grin = /dies of hotness overload/
jayfeatherjunkie 9 months ago 3
Bashir's grin = /dies of hotness overload/
jayfeatherjunkie 9 months ago
That, WAS SO CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *dies* :D
SpockLover27 11 months ago 5
This conversation takes on a whole different light once you've seen some of the later episodes with Garak in them, doesn't it?
matohibiki 1 year ago 14
^_________^ <3
HammmmerFan 2 years ago 17