Crash Course: Chapter 18 - Environmental Data by Chris Martenson

[4cashnstash]

Im scared for my son im 24 and hes two years old. We need change and some one like u for president. Youve opened my eyes to so many things. You should be proud your vids have changed my life! I cant say thank u enough

[AngeliqueEU]

2011 the 7th billion human being is arrived .....

[AdamSchulz70]

Humans will adapt their energy needs by turning to renewable resources. I am sure that it will not be a easy hike but the real problem to me in this equation, is the strange taboo of not addressing exponential population growth with real policies.

This as the longer we wait the more likely it is that nature and not humans will take care of this very forbidden subject. We are worrying in politics about the age pyramid and who will pay for our pensions. While we ignore the subtraction of land.

[deadman12078]

Your so many great points. Thank you for posting

[deadman12078]

It's not just the donkey man! Just think of all the feed 3,400 donkeys require. The amount of farmland and handlers. The amound of labor to break up that ore, move it, refine and smelt..

It wouldn't just be 2-3 dozen workers it would require hundreds. And the land that once grew food, would be needed for feed.

Resources would have to be reallocated to meet basic requirments because efficiancy has been drastically reduced.

[jarogru]

thx chris, such a great series! im gonna post it to my facebook, twitter, blogger (jarogruber dot blogspot dot com) accounts in order to reach more folks who (start 2 be) aware abt our future ...

jaro gruber

[Waterflux]

Unfortunately, a great deal of societally critical issues like economics, energy accounting, ecology, and history -- which should be listed in the first page of a sane policymaker's agenda but not -- are not very sexy subjects. Not to mention that our political systems have not been well suited to address such issues. Meanwhile, there are a plenty of folks out there who do not even want to do simple chores like keeping their check registers tidy and up to date!

[brian12934]

Geothermal is the finest energy method that we know of.

[bullsnutsoz]

you are a very good man Chris. we are well onto this and gathering the crumbs

[Unit1iDirty]

Stop crying, we're not screwed, share this with the people you know. Sit down with them, plead with them to watch it. Start with your family first and tell them to pay it forward and make three other people watch it!

[magic2magic]

These are the reasons why many governments go to major war every few decades to eliminate old weapons at profit, to eliminate population and steal resources and rights and accesses to those resources.

[TheAttackRat]

This is by far the most important series of videos i have ever seen.

[TheAttackRat]

"... and more cars, always more cars"

haha. despite that, this is the more depression slap in the face by reality. i was aware of the economy, but not so much the peak oil/enviro bit.

austrian econs>keynes

[phoenix11994466]

Thank God someone finally had the guts to bring up the taboo subject of Over Population.

For years everybody has avoided this touchy subject, including the UN, World Governments and even religious leaders.

The Chinese Communists, were the only Government to look the Specter in the face, and introduced the 'One Child Policy' in the Seventies, with heavy penalties for all those who ignored it.

But even the Chinese had to reverse that policy, when it discovered it was largely in-effective

[OperationCrossroad]

In the future, landfills will be mined for all the metals (like copper, aluminum, steel, etc.) and other raw materials they contain.

[laplace977]

that's the linking I needed to get the bigger picture...

...thanks!

[dannosuke88]

This video freezes on me at 4:09 for some reason. I read the transcript available by clicking on the button near the lower right of the screen. It was well worth it. I hope the freeze problem is fixed soon.

[madblade]

It doesn't account for changes in technology. True, resources are limited, but we improve technologies and find alternatives. Same doom's day scenarios were being told in the 1970's, look it up, according to them we should be cannibal and living in huts. They did not account for technological advancements, which understandably is very hard to do.

[Netherborn]

Solution for this is already made - thevenusproject com

[RPCVguy]

This is my #1 recommended video set anywhere, and I am constantly recommending it - but still too few views. Meanwhile I've moved from the USA to a rural village in Asia, and am living on less land that most neighbors, but doing well with traditional organic farming methods, Brahma manure for fertilizer etc. Solar and wind energy will be in supply for a long time, if only people would move to these quickly...

[kikrlbs]

Hey man fuck it, I quit telling people about it because everyone starts thinking your a left wing conspiracy nut so fuck em. They'll see how well all of their cheap plastic shit tastes when they're starving to death. I mean, even my best friend was like "I don't care about that shit", so I was straight up like, well when you want me to share my emergency rations with you and I don't, just know I warned you and it's a matter of survival at this point. I hope the dollar in your pocket tastes good

[Frostlander]

Don't let ignorance slow you down.

[kikrlbs]

I don't know if you're referencing as to me being stupid because I think what this guy is saying is right or wrong. I think he's right though.

[americosantos1983]

men.. this is all so overwhelming that is hard not to get depressed!

[sketchtwentytwo]

It's not depressing. It's a kick in the ass! So get going!

[6gambler9]

such important videos and yet only 20,000 views? A fucking laughing cat video on youtube gets more views. we are all seriously screwed.

[CIAagent11]

It's unsettling.

[wordpresswidget]

@6gambler9 Cat video? what about a crashing viper getting 1.6M views? we need to wake the fuck up or we'll die in our sleep.

[NotAFanOfLogins]

@6gambler9

I little harsh the way you put it, haha, but yes, scary, and youre right ; whow!

[NotAFanOfLogins]

@6gambler9

I little harsh the way you put it, haha, but yes, scary, and youre right ; whow! but its 60,ooo now yea!

[Matrix29bear]

The simple truth right now is that there's going to be TOO DAMN MANY BABIES and TOO DAMN MANY ADULTS to endure a energy supply bottom out. The net result, if not horribly bloody high-body-count wasteful war, will be an impenetrable wall of massive death if everyone decides to keep barreling along at a moronic rate.

[monkeypaw64]

Natural gas prices just hit 7 year lows due to a new method of extraction and low electricity demand. Not only is it a substitute for coal in generating electricity, but can also be used for cars as it is in some countries for taxis and in the US for buses. They're actually starting to export it to countries than use LNG vehicles because they're running out of storage space.

[ccricers]

Interesting...today I found a new article about how hybrid car production is feeling the pinch of needing rare earth metals. Just as we are trying to get away from gasoline.

[LDRinbrampton]

Not a fan of the hybrid car, personally. Hydrogen seems like it's not worth it, too difficult to use. Anyone check out "Who killed teh electric car"?

[i99xx]

MORE CARS... WANT MORE ^^ camaro plx

[powerinvader]

this guy is a genius the coal graph was amazing.

[sysopkc]

Thats fine, just recycle them, they are still here on earth mostly, just in various modified form.

[dcmantommy]

Excellent work yet again Chris! Much appreciation.

[poweroftheglory]

So we should kill all the Mexicans?

[Ontologistics]

Great series.

Population control you do not mention as a solution...

[impalanick]

Our world needs the future population growth to sustain our current ecomomic lifestyle. ie, a greater source of labour for an ageing population. And more people to consume (create debt money) in order to maintain our economic system. But yes that works against our depleting energy and food resources for which we need to maintain life. That is THE problem. The American indians had it right, they lived in balance with natures resourses. Maybe such a lifestyle will be forced upon future mankind;-)

[zhxiate]

thanks for the presentation, excellent work friend

[strasheep]

wow.. its over. it is over.

[chemchert]

somehow, I hope it is.

[Geleber]

I guess you are talking about the Sugar Loaf field discovered in 2007, containing 25-40 billion barrels, all of which are unfeasable to extract under a price of at least 100 $ per barrel? When the US alone consumes 20.7 million barrels a day (2005) and increase their consumption by 2 % per year... how long would it last for the USA alone? Less than 40 years (assuming it is ALL extractable, which it isn't) Not that I would expect to convince you, go ahead, live on like nothing could be wrong.

[christo930]

You are talking more like 4 or 5 years at 20mb/d and you couldn't extract 20mb/d even if you wanted to.

[ngarey]

thanks for this great series... god help us all...

[nbj01]

Having said that, The Crash Course is from far the best presentation I have watched so far :-)) Thanks !!

[lifeisfree00]

Increasing number of developed countries are in crisis due to lack of population. They are imploring their citizens to have more babies by paying them because most young couples are no longer having babies.

Are we really facing population problem? Not really. Only in the minds of New World Order cabals who are afraid of people rising up against them out of control.

[nbj01]

let me give you this example so that you can try to understand what's going on here : Imagine you have a bottle with 1 single bacteria, which divides every minute.

So you start with one bacteria, right. After 1 minute, you have 2 bacterias.

The bottle, like the earth (see my post below ;-)) is a limited space, volume.

After 1 hour, the bottle is absolutely full of bacteria and they cant divide anymore because there's not enough volume in the bottle.

[lifeisfree00]

This presentation is all correct except one thing: the assumed premise that the Earth resources are limited. Wrong. The seeming limitations are artificially created. I repeat there is no shortage of food . There is no shortage of land. there is no shortage of energy (oil fields, for example, are deliberately not utilized fully to rig the price. And why is it that no one is talking about the #2 biggest oil field just discovered last year in Brazil?)

[christo930]

A single oilfield is meaningless. The discoveries off the coast of Brazil are the most challenging oil fields ever discovered and won't be produced for at least 10 possibly 20 years. By then we will have lost so much existing production that it will only slightly slow the decent.

[JurkoffJay]

I have no real friends, no girlfriend, no family, and no money.

I reeeeeaaally don't give a fuck about life, so fuck it all to hell.

[CodeGreenCommunity]

Maybe you don't have all those things because the society you were brought up in is wrong. Fix it- and all those things will be yours!

[JurkoffJay]

Fix it? Uhhh... how?

You know what, don't answer that.  I know you have now real answers. Niether do I. I'd like to live 200,000 years ago, and that can't happen so fuck it. I got death to look forward to.

[freedomfighterone]

Corporate farmers in the US and Europe are being paid by their governments not to grow food. There is no shortage of food, except that artificially created by the elite to maximize profits. We need a new system.

[freedomfighterone]

There is no shortage of solar energy which is a lot cleaner.

[acandterra]

we're fucked unless we restrict the number of kids we have

[viewer1112]

you know, theres that

or we could have a massive all out war

[666sigma]

Malthus was correct. He just missed the time element. This video brings it into view.

The truth is that there are way too many people on the planet and there are way too many that want to live like Americans.

It is not sustainable. America and the western world can't continue to consume the energy and resources that it does and the 3rd world can't continue to overpopulate the world.

Neither will bend until it is too late in my opinion.

[snakecharmer133]

There are not to many people on the globe, there is to much consumption per capita on the globe though. A world with ~10 billion people would be a communistic system where you have no individual consumption what so ever. It is decided what you eat and when you eat it, no vacations to the other side of the planet, no internet, no 5 pair of jeans, no Ipods, etc.

I dont think the people in the west will like this though so a reduction (genocide) of people is the most likely solution.

[666sigma]

You are wrong. Even if we scaled back the living standards of the West and lived more "greenly", there would still be too much human consumption of food to sustain 10 billion people long term.

Imagine if there were no farming or ranching. How many people could the planet support?

I would guess that it would be more like 50-100 million.

Well, we can't farm or ranch the seas effectively like land and we are depleting them just like oil, gas and coal. It is only a matter of time.

[snakecharmer133]

How many that could be supported is mainly a question on how much you are willing to sacrifice for someone else. Let say that ~90% of the populous would be working in agriculture. All mean of production go into agriculture instead of the junk we use it for today. This mean you have no healthcare, no pension plans, no vacations,, etc. It would be a way of life that would be living hell to most westerners. It is possible but the cost is so high; most would rather die.

[666sigma]

Wrong, you can't keep leeching the soil. Top soil is no different than coal or gas. It is limited. Plus, the best argicultural areas are where we have built our cities (for obvious reasons). And urban sprawl consumes more-and-more prime agricultural land.

Within the next 100 and, most definitely, 200 years; there will be a major ecological breakdown on earth. At the most optimistic end, the whole world will become like Japan before WWII looking to steal resources for other countries.

[snakecharmer133]

We are leaching the soil due to the use of petrochemical products that can be used to add nutrients to the soil, if these products wouldnt be on the market the soil would be preserved in a better way. It is possible to have roughly the same output of crops from fields where you dont harvest the top soil, this type of production will however not be suitable for exports but for local consumption which would have a high disturbance on the global economy most likely destroying it.

[FranceParisian]

"there are way too many that want to live like Americans." I think this is a wrong commentary. Not all the world is America, in fact, this condescending feelings of some Americans is what makes the world hates America. Sadly, to the other reasonable Americans, they are inevitably affected by it