This commercial is scientifically incorrect. A firearm is not a living being, thus it cannot be killed. It can be deactivated, destroyed, disposed of; but not killed.
Stop the gangbanding, drug dealing, murderous scumbags...shoot them with your own gun. Since they don't obey the law gun control is useless against them and actually helps they. Gun control dosn't work on crimanals BUT BULLETS DO!
This is some pretty stupid shit. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens merely makes it easier for criminals and tyrants to overpower them. Because criminals and tyrants aren't going to care about laws.
What planet do you live on stormgray? According to The International Crime Victims Survey, conducted by Leiden University in Holland, the US doesn't even make the top ten list "of industrialized nations whose citizens were victimized by crime." Our gun murder rate is high yes but overall violent crime is lower here than in Australia, England, Wales, Sweden, Holland and Canada. What say you now faced with the facts? Taking the tools away doesn't change the heart of man.
@209K231 If you can even take the tools. Crimanals don't obey the law, that is why they are called crimanals. oh and as to what stormgray saidthe crime rate went up in most of those countrys after their bans. If the murder rate in country A is 50 and is 200 in country B and country A's murder rate jumps to 150 after their gun ban and an anti gun biggot uses country A as an example against country B to support his idiotic opinion that guns should be banned then said antigun biggot is a douchbag.
The pro-gun people just can't argue against this fact: countries with stricter gun control laws (most of western Europe) have lower crime rates than countries with liberal gun laws (United States). Why is that I wonder?
@stormgray they also have the highest suicide rates. You can't prove allowing guns has higher crime rates. its like proving people who believe in god are morons or that people who have higher iq generally kill themselves more...
Why not also ban something like martial arts? It's also something that is specifically designed to do harm, yet everyone only seems to think of it as a self-defense solution.
what would people kill with if there were no guns? anything else they could find.
the root of the problem isn't gun control, it's people's state of minds developed by their environment fabricated by those in power who feel it's appropriate for them to live lavishly while the majority is in poverty.
@100eyes a gun is cowardly. No education is needed to operate a firearm. At least with martial arts you have to be educated in it for you to use it. A lot of the time you need years to learn to use it properly or with any effectiveness.
Guns aren't necessary in this world, especially for civilians.
@towned contrary to what you might have seen in video games, real guns do in fact take years when learning to use them proficiently.
as the internet gave every person in the world a voice, the gun gave every person in the world a chance to defend themselves. if we had no gadgets or tools to speak of, the world would just be run by the strongest group of barbarians.
your opinion about the necessity of guns would change the second you dialed 911 and there was no answer.
@100eyes If they're that hard, explain to me why the number of deaths by fire arms out number deaths by Martial Arts...
Contrary to what your pal Charlton Heston thinks, there is no real reason for a civilian to have a gun. The only reason is to protect yourself from OTHER guns. A lot of people have lived they're entire life without touching a firearm and a lot of people have had there life taken because of a firearm.
This argument is futile as it has being going on forever.
@towned simple, guns make it easier to take a life. however, what people like you fail to realize in your 'number of deaths by firearms' is just how many of those are for the sake of your freedom, or rather your false sense of security.
the only reason for a gun is to protect from other guns? that's a ridiculous thing to say. a criminal can use anything from a knife to a baseball bat to a car, and sometimes people are attacked by wild animals and need to defend themselves and their family.
@towned You just stated a lot of people have never touched a gun and a lot of died by a gun. Would those people who never had a gun to fight back with have all died if they were armed? Would all those people who accidentally hurt themselves or those around them still have done so if they were taught proper gun handling techniques beforehand instead of handling one out of curiosity?
the safest method to keeping a gun isn't locking it away, it's teaching those around the proper way to handle it.
@towned if you don't have the confidence to trust yourself with a firearm, that's fine. just don't expect everyone else to share your opinion, because not everyone is comfortable with calling another stranger over with a gun when in danger, rather than having your own.
this argument is futile because people like you refuse to accept the rights given to you. when people fight for gun laws, they aren't fighting for their own, they're fighting for YOURS.
@100eyes This conversation has nothing to do with me, or my confidence to own/operate a firearm and the fact you have yet to provide a real reason for a civilian to have a firearm apart from the weak argument "its a right" proves my point. Just give me one, legitimate, real reason for a civilian to own a gun, just one...
It's sad you don't have the confidence to trust the authorities who are in place to protect and even sadder that you need a gun to feel safe.
@towned "hope for the best, prepare for the worst."
the safety of myself and those around me is the only reason I ever need. some ask why I always have some sort of a first aid kit. same reason.
ignorant people like you who aren't prepared for anything and just walk through life as if there will always be someone who'll always take care of you. if you're lucky, someone like me will be around when you're in need of help. if you're smart, you'd become a person whom others can depend on.
@100eyes One reason man, one legitimate reason. "its a right and for defense" aren't legitimate reasons, if you don't have trust in the authorities then your just paranoid and delusional and almost more dangerous than the criminals your trying to 'protect' people from.
People like you who have no reason owning a gun end up having their own firearm used on them.
@100eyes Link doesn't work, much like your argument.
Again you have failed to give me 1 legitimate reason to own a gun. It's one thing to have a first aid kit and another to have a gun. The two aren't even close.
Don't feed me this BS about owning a gun so people can depend on you in the off chance a situation ever occurs where you might need one, chances are you'd cave in that situation because you don't have guts in the first place to deal with it, so you go out and get a gun to compensate.
@towned search for "WROL nutnfancy". he explains better than I can with the limited amount of letters.
you say a gun and a med kit are different, yet both are emergency services you rely on. my tools of being prepared aren't replacements for the emergency services, they're supplements. in case you never noticed, help doesn't arrive immediately.
and thanks for calling me a coward, makes glad that I decided go to police academy to protect sheep like you who can't even protect themselves.
Whoever said I couldn't protect my self? Just because I don't have a gun. Now who's ignorant? And yeah, kinda cowardly to wait until the last minute to divulge you're a 'cop', which I honestly doubt. If you had been paying attention my argument was about civilians having guns, not authorities. pay attention.
And BTW - it's Without Rule Of LAW, NOT Without Rule of GUN. You should learn the difference if you're gonna be a cop.
@towned I'm saying you can't protect yourself, just like you choose to claim my reason is invalid for your dumbass. Unlike the fantasy world you live in, if the other guy has a gun and you don't, you're certainly fucked.
I also never said I was a cop you illiterate fool, I said I will be attending the academy to become a cop. and I am still talking about civilian rights, because like many, I still am a civilian.
and how do you think the law is kept? curse words and mean looks?
@towned rip out the seatbelts and airbags in your car and see if you feel just as safe. it's not likely you're going to crash right?
and how dare you claim the same people participated in slavery. people as dumb as you should be locked away for treason.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
@towned I'm not going to bother wasting any more time on a lost soul like you. Hopefully for your own sake you'll be lucky enough to not be in any situation of emergency.
If you happen to be, I hope there's someone like me to lend you a hand, else you're properly fucked. Have a good life - ignorance is bliss, and O hope fate lets you stay ignorant.
@100eyes Wow. You're more delusional than I thought. You're air bag remark isn't even close to being relevant. If you think it is you should never be given the authority to protect civilians. You mind set is warped and you should see a therapist.
I hope to god I am not where near you if I'm every in a situation where I need an authority figure. Chances are if I am, you're the type of criminal I would be dealing with.
@towned maybe you should actually use your brain and think about why the same people who gave you free speech., would give you the right to bear arms.
unfortunately you seem like the type of person who doesn't understand anything but hard lessons, so I wish you the best of luck in your life, you'll need it a lot more than I ever will.
I'd much rather have a gun in my hand than a cop on the phone because when seconds count the police are only minutes away and criminals will always prefer unarmed victims.
Because it's stupid. . .it's designed only to appeal to the emotions of sheeple and not to either logic or fact.
Because it attempts to characterize an inanimate object with taking some kind of congnitive action on its own
Now. . for an interesting twist. . .if we created a commercial using the exact same tactics, however using cars. . with a pithy slogan "kill the car". . .how many would scoff? Should we "kill the car"
As an inanimate object, consider the lives lost and crushed to it.
You're ignoring the fact that well over 90% have never killed a person. Further, without looking at many stats, but knowing there are over 100M gun owners, I'd say a full 90% haven't even killed an animal. . bet more animals have been killed with cars too. . something NOT made to kill. Interesting
ANYway, I love match and biathlon.
Oh. . and you're further ignoring the fact that one can kill 1000's with kool-aid. Something else never made to kill.
The sole purpose of a gun is to kill or wound — that's why a "kill the gun" campaign makes sense, but a "kill the car" campaign would not (your original point, to which I was responding).
> Oh. . and you're further ignoring the fact that one
> can kill 1000's with kool-aid. Something else never
> made to kill.
No, one can't. An individual can kill him/herself with a poor diet, but short of drowning someone in a vat of the stuff, you can't kill somebody else with Kool-Aid.
Depends on whether or not you spike it like Jim Jones did, eh?
Then we have "kill the sword", "Kill the bow and arrow", "Kill the noose", "Kill the . . .
Better yet. . since people have been killing each other with about anything they can get their hands on since the dawn of time. . .to include rocks, clubs, poisons, knives, cliffs, water, cars, airplanes, fire, ropes, plastic bags, acids, etc, etc,
You keep talking BS about 'sole express purpose'. . .
I've been around guns for well over 30 years of my life. . and except when I go hunting. . they have never been used to kill. . In fact, their 'sole express purpose' is now for Biathlon and Match events.
So your. . .theory. . .holds no water. And as you see. . can be turned around on you using the fact that while many items who's 'sole express purpose' may not be to kill. . .are in fact used to kill.
Nice Idea!
blackpanthers7 1 year ago
This commercial is scientifically incorrect. A firearm is not a living being, thus it cannot be killed. It can be deactivated, destroyed, disposed of; but not killed.
AGeekWithAShotgun 1 year ago
@AGeekWithAShotgun Never heard of metonymy? Idiot., all idiots.
NoxxPie 10 months ago
@NoxxPie
So calling magazine "clips" is socially acceptable in politics? Come on, dude.
AGeekWithAShotgun 10 months ago
Stop the gangbanding, drug dealing, murderous scumbags...shoot them with your own gun. Since they don't obey the law gun control is useless against them and actually helps they. Gun control dosn't work on crimanals BUT BULLETS DO!
bigbenusa45 1 year ago
when i saw the kid.. i was a little worried
Buttercupancakes 1 year ago
This is some pretty stupid shit. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens merely makes it easier for criminals and tyrants to overpower them. Because criminals and tyrants aren't going to care about laws.
Armonis 1 year ago
What planet do you live on stormgray? According to The International Crime Victims Survey, conducted by Leiden University in Holland, the US doesn't even make the top ten list "of industrialized nations whose citizens were victimized by crime." Our gun murder rate is high yes but overall violent crime is lower here than in Australia, England, Wales, Sweden, Holland and Canada. What say you now faced with the facts? Taking the tools away doesn't change the heart of man.
209K231 2 years ago
@209K231 If you can even take the tools. Crimanals don't obey the law, that is why they are called crimanals. oh and as to what stormgray saidthe crime rate went up in most of those countrys after their bans. If the murder rate in country A is 50 and is 200 in country B and country A's murder rate jumps to 150 after their gun ban and an anti gun biggot uses country A as an example against country B to support his idiotic opinion that guns should be banned then said antigun biggot is a douchbag.
bigbenusa45 1 year ago
The pro-gun people just can't argue against this fact: countries with stricter gun control laws (most of western Europe) have lower crime rates than countries with liberal gun laws (United States). Why is that I wonder?
stormgray 2 years ago
@stormgray they also have the highest suicide rates. You can't prove allowing guns has higher crime rates. its like proving people who believe in god are morons or that people who have higher iq generally kill themselves more...
trousien 1 year ago
Why not also ban something like martial arts? It's also something that is specifically designed to do harm, yet everyone only seems to think of it as a self-defense solution.
what would people kill with if there were no guns? anything else they could find.
the root of the problem isn't gun control, it's people's state of minds developed by their environment fabricated by those in power who feel it's appropriate for them to live lavishly while the majority is in poverty.
100eyes 2 years ago 9
agree.
MyLemons 2 years ago
@100eyes a gun is cowardly. No education is needed to operate a firearm. At least with martial arts you have to be educated in it for you to use it. A lot of the time you need years to learn to use it properly or with any effectiveness.
Guns aren't necessary in this world, especially for civilians.
towned 8 months ago
@towned contrary to what you might have seen in video games, real guns do in fact take years when learning to use them proficiently.
as the internet gave every person in the world a voice, the gun gave every person in the world a chance to defend themselves. if we had no gadgets or tools to speak of, the world would just be run by the strongest group of barbarians.
your opinion about the necessity of guns would change the second you dialed 911 and there was no answer.
100eyes 8 months ago
@100eyes If they're that hard, explain to me why the number of deaths by fire arms out number deaths by Martial Arts...
Contrary to what your pal Charlton Heston thinks, there is no real reason for a civilian to have a gun. The only reason is to protect yourself from OTHER guns. A lot of people have lived they're entire life without touching a firearm and a lot of people have had there life taken because of a firearm.
This argument is futile as it has being going on forever.
towned 8 months ago
@towned simple, guns make it easier to take a life. however, what people like you fail to realize in your 'number of deaths by firearms' is just how many of those are for the sake of your freedom, or rather your false sense of security.
the only reason for a gun is to protect from other guns? that's a ridiculous thing to say. a criminal can use anything from a knife to a baseball bat to a car, and sometimes people are attacked by wild animals and need to defend themselves and their family.
100eyes 8 months ago
@towned You just stated a lot of people have never touched a gun and a lot of died by a gun. Would those people who never had a gun to fight back with have all died if they were armed? Would all those people who accidentally hurt themselves or those around them still have done so if they were taught proper gun handling techniques beforehand instead of handling one out of curiosity?
the safest method to keeping a gun isn't locking it away, it's teaching those around the proper way to handle it.
100eyes 8 months ago
@towned if you don't have the confidence to trust yourself with a firearm, that's fine. just don't expect everyone else to share your opinion, because not everyone is comfortable with calling another stranger over with a gun when in danger, rather than having your own.
this argument is futile because people like you refuse to accept the rights given to you. when people fight for gun laws, they aren't fighting for their own, they're fighting for YOURS.
100eyes 8 months ago
@100eyes This conversation has nothing to do with me, or my confidence to own/operate a firearm and the fact you have yet to provide a real reason for a civilian to have a firearm apart from the weak argument "its a right" proves my point. Just give me one, legitimate, real reason for a civilian to own a gun, just one...
It's sad you don't have the confidence to trust the authorities who are in place to protect and even sadder that you need a gun to feel safe.
towned 8 months ago
@towned "hope for the best, prepare for the worst."
the safety of myself and those around me is the only reason I ever need. some ask why I always have some sort of a first aid kit. same reason.
ignorant people like you who aren't prepared for anything and just walk through life as if there will always be someone who'll always take care of you. if you're lucky, someone like me will be around when you're in need of help. if you're smart, you'd become a person whom others can depend on.
100eyes 8 months ago
@100eyes One reason man, one legitimate reason. "its a right and for defense" aren't legitimate reasons, if you don't have trust in the authorities then your just paranoid and delusional and almost more dangerous than the criminals your trying to 'protect' people from.
People like you who have no reason owning a gun end up having their own firearm used on them.
towned 8 months ago
@towned @towned I recommend this vid, might be nothing short of enlightenment for you: youtube.com/watch?v=xPVSE5jg_LY
100eyes 8 months ago
@100eyes Link doesn't work, much like your argument.
Again you have failed to give me 1 legitimate reason to own a gun. It's one thing to have a first aid kit and another to have a gun. The two aren't even close.
Don't feed me this BS about owning a gun so people can depend on you in the off chance a situation ever occurs where you might need one, chances are you'd cave in that situation because you don't have guts in the first place to deal with it, so you go out and get a gun to compensate.
towned 8 months ago
@towned search for "WROL nutnfancy". he explains better than I can with the limited amount of letters.
you say a gun and a med kit are different, yet both are emergency services you rely on. my tools of being prepared aren't replacements for the emergency services, they're supplements. in case you never noticed, help doesn't arrive immediately.
and thanks for calling me a coward, makes glad that I decided go to police academy to protect sheep like you who can't even protect themselves.
100eyes 8 months ago
@100eyes Still waiting for that 1 reason...
Whoever said I couldn't protect my self? Just because I don't have a gun. Now who's ignorant? And yeah, kinda cowardly to wait until the last minute to divulge you're a 'cop', which I honestly doubt. If you had been paying attention my argument was about civilians having guns, not authorities. pay attention.
And BTW - it's Without Rule Of LAW, NOT Without Rule of GUN. You should learn the difference if you're gonna be a cop.
towned 8 months ago
@towned I'm saying you can't protect yourself, just like you choose to claim my reason is invalid for your dumbass. Unlike the fantasy world you live in, if the other guy has a gun and you don't, you're certainly fucked.
I also never said I was a cop you illiterate fool, I said I will be attending the academy to become a cop. and I am still talking about civilian rights, because like many, I still am a civilian.
and how do you think the law is kept? curse words and mean looks?
100eyes 8 months ago
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towned 8 months ago
@towned rip out the seatbelts and airbags in your car and see if you feel just as safe. it's not likely you're going to crash right?
and how dare you claim the same people participated in slavery. people as dumb as you should be locked away for treason.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
100eyes 8 months ago
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towned 8 months ago
@towned I'm not going to bother wasting any more time on a lost soul like you. Hopefully for your own sake you'll be lucky enough to not be in any situation of emergency.
If you happen to be, I hope there's someone like me to lend you a hand, else you're properly fucked. Have a good life - ignorance is bliss, and O hope fate lets you stay ignorant.
100eyes 8 months ago
@100eyes Wow. You're more delusional than I thought. You're air bag remark isn't even close to being relevant. If you think it is you should never be given the authority to protect civilians. You mind set is warped and you should see a therapist.
I hope to god I am not where near you if I'm every in a situation where I need an authority figure. Chances are if I am, you're the type of criminal I would be dealing with.
BTW I'm still waiting for that one reason.
towned 8 months ago
@100eyes I get it, you're just a kid, scared of the big world and think you need a gun to participate.
Fantasy world? It's more like the delusional world you live where you think everyone else has a gun and is out to get you.
Good luck kid, hope you don't end up in jail for shooting someone over an argument you couldn't win.
towned 8 months ago
@towned maybe you should actually use your brain and think about why the same people who gave you free speech., would give you the right to bear arms.
unfortunately you seem like the type of person who doesn't understand anything but hard lessons, so I wish you the best of luck in your life, you'll need it a lot more than I ever will.
100eyes 8 months ago
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batesville2 2 years ago
I'd much rather have a gun in my hand than a cop on the phone because when seconds count the police are only minutes away and criminals will always prefer unarmed victims.
GunOwnerDan 2 years ago
Epic
kelisjunky 2 years ago
Holy shit. My entire body twitched as the head popped up. I thought "no waaay... they cant do that?!" Didn't see that one coming at all!
hjakobsen 3 years ago
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We don't need gun control,we need NIGGER CONTROL. Let's just ban gun sales to niggers,that way,at least the guns go into responcible hands.
DudeBradfest 3 years ago
You're sick man. I can't believe that there're people thinking in that way in 2009.
Zaier1 2 years ago
I'm talking about DudeBradfest comment.
Zaier1 2 years ago
Really, This is an amazing ad
hossamrida 3 years ago
i don't get it. cool imagery though
xfreshtildeath 3 years ago
how the hell do you not
dysenterygary69 3 years ago 2
Because it's stupid. . .it's designed only to appeal to the emotions of sheeple and not to either logic or fact.
Because it attempts to characterize an inanimate object with taking some kind of congnitive action on its own
Now. . for an interesting twist. . .if we created a commercial using the exact same tactics, however using cars. . with a pithy slogan "kill the car". . .how many would scoff? Should we "kill the car"
As an inanimate object, consider the lives lost and crushed to it.
ski2exs 3 years ago
You're ignoring the fact that cars aren't designed for the express purpose of killing people (or animals, if want to quibble over semantics).
monooso 2 years ago
You're ignoring the fact that well over 90% have never killed a person. Further, without looking at many stats, but knowing there are over 100M gun owners, I'd say a full 90% haven't even killed an animal. . bet more animals have been killed with cars too. . something NOT made to kill. Interesting
ANYway, I love match and biathlon.
Oh. . and you're further ignoring the fact that one can kill 1000's with kool-aid. Something else never made to kill.
what was that about semantics??
ski2exs 2 years ago
> You're ignoring the fact that well over 90%
> have never killed a person.
That's an entirely separate issue.
The sole purpose of a gun is to kill or wound — that's why a "kill the gun" campaign makes sense, but a "kill the car" campaign would not (your original point, to which I was responding).
monooso 2 years ago
> Oh. . and you're further ignoring the fact that one
> can kill 1000's with kool-aid. Something else never
> made to kill.
No, one can't. An individual can kill him/herself with a poor diet, but short of drowning someone in a vat of the stuff, you can't kill somebody else with Kool-Aid.
Again, this is in marked contrast to a gun.
monooso 2 years ago
Depends on whether or not you spike it like Jim Jones did, eh?
Then we have "kill the sword", "Kill the bow and arrow", "Kill the noose", "Kill the . . .
Better yet. . since people have been killing each other with about anything they can get their hands on since the dawn of time. . .to include rocks, clubs, poisons, knives, cliffs, water, cars, airplanes, fire, ropes, plastic bags, acids, etc, etc,
Why not just kill the humans??
ski2exs 2 years ago 3
> include rocks, clubs, poisons, knives, cliffs, water, cars,
> airplanes, fire, ropes, plastic bags, acids, etc, etc,
See previous comment about the sole express purpose of the object.
I'll leave you to your ranting.
monooso 2 years ago
You keep talking BS about 'sole express purpose'. . .
I've been around guns for well over 30 years of my life. . and except when I go hunting. . they have never been used to kill. . In fact, their 'sole express purpose' is now for Biathlon and Match events.
So your. . .theory. . .holds no water. And as you see. . can be turned around on you using the fact that while many items who's 'sole express purpose' may not be to kill. . .are in fact used to kill.
Keep YOUR liberal rants!
ski2exs 2 years ago
awesome!
psychologicalizer 3 years ago
awesome
stwind051229 3 years ago
eye-opener!!!
rjj027 3 years ago