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  • cool, looks like Chi Sao- which is not scripted either...

  • It sucks for me because the only martial arts instructor around me is Tang Su Do and its useless, and theres Brazilian Ju Jiutsu, but you have to live on their compound for a year and its expensive, so I gotta wait till I can move T_T

  • Very impressive video, and demonstration & execution on the part of both players.

    I do not practice praying mantis, but am an avid Kali/Eskrima empty-hands practitioner who can appreciate the very competent trapping skills of the mantis school.

    Keep training, and keep up the good work!

  • there is a lot resemblence in techniques. with praying mantis kungfu and wingchun even when you see training with a wooden dummy. stil the chi sau in wingchun is different smaller and almost always remains with contact on the armes. praying mantis does not and so maybe have a little more freedom in movement.

    : )

  • im new in this, but, i might think this is wing chun

  • @tigress66: this could be for two reasons: the first being that SPM shares some techniques with Wing Chun a second the guy in blue knows more Wing Chun at the time this video was recorded than he knew SPM. The key difference btwn this drill and most Wing Chun drills is that it's not scripted or static. There is no core set of movements that we repeat over and over and then suddenly add a variation. The entire drill is spontaneous.

  • @madcityroots - Actually, in Wing Chun, there are both scripted and non-scripted drills, static and full free roaming. The scripted gets you used to certain reactions. The non scripted to be able to deal with live changes. Its pretty much the same type of stuff. Its built on a progression, as the practitioner advances in skills.

  • madcityroots excellent traits of warrior you have.

  • Yeah but remember this one is called touch control hit

  • It looks like a great way to defend and counter-attack from on-comming strikes.

    Although, I would like to see more "power strikes" just to demonstrate what this martial art is capable of.

  • a pity there are no SPM schools in Nebraska=/

  • muy buen trabajo!!

    SIFU

  • mm this martial arts less kicks!!

  • fucking sweet i whant to learn more southern praying mantis but my school only teaches a bit and a bit of northern and now were mainly going to learn six elbows kung fu wich is cool but idk i still whant to learn animal boxing and shit

  • slightly different from what i saw in SPM; i didn't c soft hands, soft arms and soft legs, all soft ? at least some hard force at the end of the accelerated soft limbs .....peut-etre, ich kenne nicht !

  • you "hardly" know what your talking about.

  • I perfectly know what i was talking about; cos some ppl said they were using all soft hands, & i said at least i saw some hard force accelerating from the initial soft state. another reason u don't know what i was talking is u don't know french & german, hahaha, no offense ! just teasing ! hey man, have a more magnanimous heart ! sorry !

  • fine, it appeared as if you were heckling and it screamed for a reply.

  • hey, brother optic cannon (u have optics in ur cannon, must be a good martial artist, heh?) sorry, no offense, not screaming for a reply, just be jokey & throw out my opinion only; i allow for all others' opinions ! c'mon, let's strive for better & best martial art ! 've a nice 1 !

  • your the first who actually tried to deduce what my name truly means. opticannon is a lense. i chose this because i have "photographic reflexive capability" that means that i can repeat an action that i see that is within my physical capability.

  • @opticannon isn't this the meaning of learning? and by adding ''within my physical capability'' you include every person in the world in this ''opticannon category''...

  • @washingzoo1 ~Thanks for being cool, man. Thanks for being a peace maker.

  • Tomas, usted amas the con leche ? Moi aussi; j'aime le the avec miel, ou creme ! Excusez-moi, parce que mon espagnol n'est pas si bon ! Merci pour votre commendations ! Bienvenue !

  • very good man its a shame you have to but a hundred mssgs explains for haters these people are so goofy thats stick fighters for ya ahahahahahaha

  • Very cool. Reminds me of Chi Sau in Wing Chun.

  • That's the Shaolin roots showing man :) In Fan Zi they have a series of "cannons", basically punches and other hand attacks, they practice and one of them is a chain punch basically the same as the Wing Chun one, both styles inherited it from southern Shaolin. Cool stuff on this video.

  • thanks for sharnig your kung fu brothers!

  • I think this training has spread to alot of other martial arts. but been re-edited or so I like to call it.

  • all systems would of course implement their own practice between 2 people.. so im not sure I would say it "spread" so much as probably just.. is result of wise practictioners exploring bodies and techniques in a controled situation where they probably wont die :D at my temple we often call it doing kung fu and the speed and techniques used depend on who I am engaging.. like if they implement kicks so do I.. or if they keep aiming for face.. so do I etc.. I love kung fu time

  • nice vid great exercise take a look at their hands from 1:18 till 1:21 this is realy cool and works realy well in real combat hf awesome vid

  • You have no idea how much I love doing this drill; I do this for Wing Chun. Great drills and keep the vids comin, I enjoy watchin these so damn much.

  • chi sao =D

  • very nice drill guys, well done. I particularly like the fact that it's not scripted and thus becomes (as mentioned previously) a game, in which each player, whilst still helping the other learn the techniques, tries to outwit the other. Drills like this are essential to true study of the art imo.. When I open my school, I'll be sure to make use of these kinds of "games" :D thanks for the upload :D

  • Such kinds of training Chi Sau will down grade the spirit of Chow Ga SPM, like children playing. To develop the float,sink, swallow &spit and 'Gen" power Doy Chong is the correct way to go. Therefore splend more times on heavy & active Doy Chong, after years training, you will understand it is much better than Touch-Control-Hit.

  • I understand why you would suggest that, but children must play simple games before they can understand more complex ones. This is only a simple game but you can never be too good at it.

  • I disagree. You need both.

    Start soft then hard. Absorbling and redirecting is sinking and swallowing which is yin in nature. Spitting and floating is yang in nature which is strong and fierce.

    One needs to train from yin to yang to develop reflexes and power. Not from yang to yin. Yin Yang is titled yin yang (yum yeung) for a reason.

  • @JookLumFist i agree its easy to learn force but to learn to flow in a relaxed manner not so easy, and starting to learn force is bad for someone that needs to learn to redirect anything i train wing chun and often when playing with people from other styles that dont practice the relaxed state it become so much easer to work around their blocks and strike this of course is only my personal oppion

  • isnt this earthbending in avatar? :P

  • Technically yes, but only to Toph. She is the one who uses southern mantis. The other earthbenders use hung-gar.

  • that does look cool..kinda reminds me of like lop sau and pak sau drills from wing chun..

  • Hee hee that looks like a lotta fun

  • 5 stars!

  • it looks more impressiveagainst a different kinda martial arts

  • Cool!

    I practice NPM(Northern Praying Mantis) but the techniques here are rather similar to the style that I do.

  • this looks very similar to some of the other people on youtube, im guessing you are from the same lineage? is this the same as Blondel praying mantis? it is very interesting to see the different levels of skill in the movements that are displayed via youtube, i look forward to trying the mantis kung fu.

  • Much to learn, they still have...

  • watts ! watts to learn? watts to learn ! i now understand ! much to learn by watts !

  • SPM and Wingchun are both centerline styles, so I expected them to be similiar, you guys look like you are having a lot of fun. I am moving cross country and having trouble finding a Wingchun school, but there is a SPM one...I'm really leaning towards contacting the Sifu there after seeing this video. Thanks!

  • nice... brings back memories... hoi.... I wish southern mantis was still in town, but not enough people came to classes, I myself had to leave when they upped the price to compensate for lack of people.

  • looks kinda like wing chun,dont it?

  • they are both centerline, effecient kung fu styles, so naturally. key difference is that advanced, distinguishable SPM is spent training in partial dim mak style, hitting the right spots on the wrists and arms, like nerves and qi centers (if you believe in them). wing chun is more in your face with brute force and pain. but, again, naturally, the true SPM form has been watered down in the western world, with hardly any schools teaching the partial dim mak portion.

  • the guy in blue near the end looked very skillful and fluid, much like the praying mantis this art form is named after.

  • Is this the "chow gar" style of southern praying mantis gung fu? Video looks great btw:)

  • I've studied Jook Lum and Chu Gar but have no advanced training in either. I love SPM and cherish everything I have learned and work what I know hard.

  • Where did you learn this style? I think it looks awesome and I wish I could learn it someday but there are no places near me that teach it. Do you offer an intensive training in SPM?

  • I have studed Southern Praying Mantis for 10 years

  • So, what is your point? Depending on how you train 10 years could mean very little or it could mean a lot. Like I said before we are not professionals but people who have trained SPM and still keep it up.

  • 10 years of 45 minutes a week, 10 hours a week for ten years or 10 years in your life. I see what you mean.

  • Im am deeply thankfull ffor this video...much respect to the guys who demonstrated....

  • Very good video..one of the best Ive seen on youtube because of the fact that one guy isnt trying to display how much faster he is or can bully another guy.

  • it's nice to see a sparring video where people are trying to improve technique rather than beat the crap outta eachother. This training is so valuable and yet so scarce these days.... Keep it up!!!!

  • I for one am very happy with this video. I was especially impressed with the crane strikes near the end of the second minute. And just because it's not professional doesn't change the fact that this is some really good stuff. :)

  • that is because one of the great grand masters of wing chun was a mantis style expert.

  • where did you hear this, and where can i read about it? i've never heard that before, but agree about many similarities between the two systems. then again, all chinese systems have something similar about them. and many have push hands, or sticky hand type practice.

  • it might just be me, but some of the moves seem similar to moves in wing chun

  • Elbows in boys

  • i dig the shirt

  • Why, does the shirt look familiar? For those who know I guess it's a dead give away whom I've trained with.

  • Che Guevara?

  • good stuff, ty for share it

  • for some freeestyle tong long techniques (southern praying mantis) which is demonstrated by second degree masters, just type in HENRY SUE and just scroll down. Very nice techniques displayed in this video good work guys!!

  • What line of Southern Mantis is this and whereabouts? Jook Lum? I see that you have white sleeves showing, are you a sifu madcity?

  • i think you are directing your comment to the wrong guy in the video.more experience is in the non- frog knot wearing practicioner

  • since when does a generic kung fu shirt signify sifu status???

  • I'm no sifu and the guy with the white sleeves showing is my student. I have studied Jook Lum and Chu Gar. I do not claim any advanced understanding. The reason I even teach is to maintain my own skill and give others the opportunity to learn a bit of SPM. If they turn out to want to learn past the three year mark I suggest different teachers for them to pursue.

  • Doodly, I'm not sure how many individuals know this, but flipping the sleeves over to show white usually means you are a sifu, or teacher status. but I know a lot individuals do it now because it does look better or doesn't get in the way. To madcity, I think that your response is very admirable. I wish there were more martial arts practitioners with that attitude, if my opinion means anything.

  • just stay focused and keep motivated and someday you will be a master....Nothing wrong with your enthusiasm and willingness to share...Ignore the so called internet martial art experts....

  • Elbows are too far out. Need to put less weight on front legs.

  • I actually thought we were standing too straight and I agree about the elbows.

  • looks like good basic t,c,h just remember each hit should move you closer to your target since realistically they should be moved back each hit.and yeah the elbows should be in some more,but looks like you can play pretty good.keep on movin in

  • First of all respects to SPM as a tradional artform, and nice drill performed. I just wanna ask a question hope to get an objective answer: how effective is SPM in real life scenarios?

  • i meant when facing other m.a. styles..

  • Every martial art has good principles but in war it depends on who can become the meanest animal. If your art teaches you good self defense and not to be an animal then there you go. SPM teaches offense not self-defense. I believe it depends more on the person than the art. Although, the art helps.

  • to make it clear to all the defense is the offense in SPM they live by the motto "hand to hand, heart to heart, you don't come, i won't start" so just be careful and don't judge people by their size but by their skill cuz you never know what they have

  • wow...this is like the chi sau for s.praying mantis...

  • If you like this check out the second one I did - Southern Praying Mantis Drill 2.

  • Not a bad video. There's not too many 2 man SPM vids on the net right now, but most SPM forms/drills require 2 people... go figure.

    How many years of experience does each of the practitioners have?

    Also, who's your head sifu, and what version of Southern Praying Mantis do you practice (Chow Gar, Hakka, Jook Lum, etc.)?

  • i searched for this vid cos my friend said that SPM was similar to wing chun. i think it was a better display of chi sau than alot of the WC vids on here

  • looks like sticky hands to me, and why your body bend forwards so much? a hammer punch will send you right to the ground.

  • SPM kung fu leans in on the opponent restricting movement simulating REAL combat. A hammer punch? Maybe, but only if it comes from someone use to having their space invaded.

  • Bullshit. We only close the gap so you are uncomfortable, and we are able to generate with bent elbows so the energy continues through, you go down by yourself

  • Which part of "this is not intended to be an expert display" did you not understand. I saw your expert video and am impressed but you dishonor yourself and your sifu by your sectarianism.

  • Great work!

  • Hate to break it to you, but Roger Hagood doesn't know Jook Lum. He learned very little and went on claiming he was a master under Master Gin Foon Mark. He had studied primarily northern mantis.

    This clip is not terrible. Better than anything I've seen from Poo Yee or any of his students.

  • I train under Jack Spizale, who is/was a student of Gin Foon Mark. Master Mark is actually coming to our school this coming Monday.

  • Where did you learn this? What state is it? Too bad, I live in Louisville, KY so no SPM for me.

  • I been studying this for a few years now, baisicly as far as up close if you can execute properly you can overcome almost anyone up close even a wing chun guy would have a very hard time. You can really notice your weaknesses with this drill and fine tune your technique great video

  • good sensitivity...

  • The only thing that Wing Chun/Southern Mantis have in common is that their both hakka influence methods.Short stances,sticky hand and short explosives strikes.

  • It strongly looks like Wing Chun.Is there any influence between Wing Chun and Praying Mantis?

  • nice work. Who is your teacher & what style of SPM is it?

  • I have studied Chu Gar and Jook Lum. I studied Chu Gar under two of Sifu Wongs students and Jook Lum under a student of Roger Hagood.

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