Tajik / Han Chinese Song - Gulbita / Why are the Flowers So Red

[milvipes]

In the original 1950's version, all Tajik characters were played by Tajik actors. In subsequent versions, Uyghurs started to take over...

[xihangyang]

the girl in the yellow is that a Tajik girl, but is the actress also a Tajik girl.

[kwwkwwkww]

@xihangyang

no, she is Uyghur.

her name is Nurbeya 努尔比亚

[mahmadsodik]

magar ba tojiki michonand &

[strongestass]

2:19 dude looks like obama.

Lolz

[hit004541]

At the 1:18 mark what does the word mean when she calls him?

[paulgreenbean]

Thanks for this clip! I just borrowed the DVD of the original film from the library. Its great! However the DVD had a damaged part at the end. So thanks to you, i was able to see this scene!

[hit004541]

what is the movie about? it looks cool I wanna see it with english subs

[paulgreenbean]

@hit004541 The film is Visitors on the Icy Mountain. "This story tells how the PLA soldiers in Xinjiang borders see through the pitfalls then suppress the KMT spies."

The original film in black and white is on DVD with english subtitles, including the words to the song, which are also translated into Chinese characters. Great film with spectacular scenes and beautiful music!

[xkiller1968]

永远的 阿米尔 冲 ！！！

[rouzbeh61]

Long live Persians all around the world and our respect to Chinese culture.

[lordevarts]

只有来自中国队吧？也就说来源自中国民间的 是吗？

[biklikbala]

anybody know where could find this original song version?

[kwwkwwkww]

可到以下地方收看

watch?v=qW8xd2wAirk

或直接用 "Gulbita" or "古丽碧塔" 搜索.

[biklikbala]

thk, but Tajik version is a bit happy mood, and Han version is quick sad, dont know why....

[PQL1967]

阿米尔，冲！

Amir, charge! :)

[cafeko]

The girl in the second one is so gorgeous!

[milvipes]

The girl from the second part is not Tajik, but Uyghur.

[cafeko]

Okay. :)

[shautora]

It looks dubbed, especially the singing. Is it dubbed?

[EmperorTiger]

its not as far as i can tell

[finestfresh]

@shautora

i think its dubbed. but who cares as long as we know this song has a nice rythm and lyrics. Tajiks chinese and han chinese are brothers 4ever

[ymhktravel]

@finestfresh It's not dubbed. As someone who knows Mandarin, I see that they were indeed singing out the chinese lyrics of the song from the movement of the mouth/lips. There are many uighurs past and present who do speak mandarin even though they might not feel comfortable being under the chinese communist rule.

[ChrisFederico]

Beautiful .. I'm not sure what she singing about but its just beautiful to me :)

[rouzbeh61]

Damn, not even one Tajik word? we need to help them preserve their rich culture. Tajiks in China, we Persians support and love you.

[xjdgulee]

Tadjiks in China are very few minoritie for communist party song must be in mandarin language for everybody understand" bebakhshid",but pls watch the end of the clip gulbita song & tadjiki dukhtar from china.

[rouzbeh61]

Thanks for the reply, the song in the end is pure and beautiful. Tajik traditional cloths in the song part were awesome .

[xjdgulee]

I have this kind of clothes, red dress with black gilet & topi in my home, but not so somptuous. We are using for"Sainam" in Xingjiang for folkloric danses.

[alborzka]

There were plenty of Tajik words in there...

[Zac2333]

But the melody is oh-so East Iranian.

[xjdgulee]

Where can I findt his film, I've seen with my rental but film is too old, difficult to find. Who knows from internet or one adress i can find the old version or new version. Thanks in advance for the information.

[kwwkwwkww]

both old and new version dvds are available for sell at amazon. try the words 冰山上的来客 + dvd + amazon in the search engine.

[xjdgulee]

Thanks for your information, but I can read only + dvd + amazon (the letters before are squares if there are hanzi pls write then in pinyin,bcs i think my software is old & can read it.Thanks in advance.

[kwwkwwkww]

the 6 squares are hanzi

pinyin ---- Bing Shan Shang De Lai Ke

[kwwkwwkww]

i try to send the link (amazon, yesasia) to u directly.

pls check out your personal message.

[xjdgulee]

Xie xie ni de bang zu. Wo kan dao ni men de amazon,yesasia,mey you hei bai ban(1960 nian de pian), er tie vcd, dvd hen gui de. You mey you bie de di fang mai bi jiao pian yi de ?

[alborzka]

Iran and China are the oldest and greatest civilisations in the world, as an Iranian I hope we can be as close as we were before the Arabs destroyed Iran!

Iran + China Forever

[finestfresh]

we chinese always be friend with Iran. support you guys all the way brother

[xjdgulee]

I'm agree with you. Persia & China are great civilization and have also commun points because of invasion of mongols wich are a part of the 56 minorities in China.

[subroto81]

@alborzka arabs= iranians master forever...islam rules, suadi/haj rules....

[finestfresh]

@alborzka

super. we chinese love iran

[Exult]

In 651 AD the, Sassanids, last of the pre-Islamic Persian dynasties fell and the crown prince Peroz II and many of his servants migrated east where they took refuge in the court of the Tang Chinese, the dependents of these people mixed with Tang nobility became the Tajiks of China. (note the difference between Tajiks from Tajikistan)

[qilinmelb]

@alborzka Ancient Chinese learnt much from eastern Persian groups in Tarim Basin, especially music and dance.Many musical instruments were introduced from Ancient Persia, along silk Road to the east and be an important of Chinese folk musical instruments.Chinese are inspired by ancient persian culture before fully Islamic. Since Persia was defeated by Arabs, China and Persia were seperating further and isolated for a few centuries after 8th century AD.

[qilinmelb]

@alborzka As a Chinese, I feel pitty that glorious and properous Buddhsim and eastern Christianity almost fully disapeared from central Asia where they took their most prosperity for a long time until Tang Dynasty. But ancient Buddhism are alive in some parts of China as the most treasurable heritage from Central Asia. In Ancient Chinese ideology, central Asia is the symbol of Devining Place where God lives

[rongjingji]

@alborzka

I like the brightness sect

But the Islamic slander it

Call Zoroastrianism

[mabuba100]

Она не таджичка.... фуфло онакитаянка или киргизка, или кто ее знает

[drgooglemail]

The Tajik girl at the end of the clip possesses all Iranian features and sings in such a sweet perfect Persian.

[google2com]

I know this is kind of weird but the actor who plays her brother here is kinda of hot.

[nosirrom5]

Are Tajiks Persian?

[dfront21]

yes

[milvipes]

The lady at 2:00 is actually Uyghur, not Tajik.

Her name is along the line of Parizat something (can't recall her full name).

[spritemir]

do u knw the name of ths movie if can u plz tell me, tanx :)

[OoBlessedSouloO]

Chinese pinyin is 'Bing Shan Shang de Lai Ke'. English should be the 'Visitor of Ice Mountain'. This is the theme song they are singing.

[DesireBig]

This was a Chinese movie of 1950's. I read a news in late 1970's that it's very popular even in a European country among young people when it was on show then let alone in it's own country China: every man and woman could sing some of the songs in the movie:)

[lordevarts]

仅仅是短影片 并足够感人心~~！

[dos123123]

this tajik song is very popular in China,

even child can sing this song

[souida0]

Hi dear all...the last video provided and listed as the original one is not accurate...i speak Tajiki and I couldnt see any similarity in the music so it made me curious to search and find the right one,,, after many hours of net searching, I finally got it.. The song actually called GUL BITA in Tajiki... and here is the address to the video

[souida0]

As a matter of the fact its sang by the same beautiful singer. The melody is the same but the lyrics are of course in Tajik. I hope you all enjoy it, I love the song, it made me weep the first time I heard it in Chinese and I had no idea its a Tajik music, it really intrigued me that feeling of nostalgic I like to think my grand mother was humming it to me when I was a baby. I wish there were no countries to divide us, and we still were connected through the Silk Road, Love you all

[allachapan]

Tajiks speak farsi

[ziliweng]

The music made me weep. For those who dont know the song, it was from a Chinese movie made in 1960s telling a story of 1951. The story was kind of so-so, but the music was a big success and instantly spreaded nationwide. During the "culture revolution", the song was banned. After Mao's wife was finally overthrown in 1976, the song regained its top popularity for the second time. It is one of modern China classic. If you tell ur Chinese friends that you r an ethinc Tajik, they'll sing it.

[dove99v]

the music sounds tajik but not the song itself

it sounds like mandarin to me.

[aaroncurley]

I guess the last part 7:21 was not

[heseltonc]

I would love to know, if anyone can answer this, what is the name of the two movies and play shown here. They're obviously the same well known story. Also, I know it's a Tajik song, but does anyone know from what time period and when it became popular in China? I am curious cause I'm writting a piece on the Chinese rock band Tang Dynasty that recently did a really good rock version of the song.

[WDMarx]

It is one movie made in the 60s and others are just opera and TV series based on the same story. The songs became popular in China as soon as the movie was released, and there are more than one songs in the movie. The last version of the song in the video is the original Tajik folk song.

[WDMarx]

The movie is called "Guests from Ice Mountain" and is the dramatization of a real story happened probably around 1949. The story is simple, but the best part of the movie is the music.

[gluvuv]

Ethnic Uyghur is a merge of 10 ethnic groups originated in the Republic of Mongolia and Russia. The largest group were called Huihu. They were Buddhist nomads who migrated to West China recently. They are converted to Islam relatively recently. Turkey is the West most nation of Turkic language. From Japan, Korea, to Mongolia and Russia, many speak Turkic languages. If Europe wants to have an independent Eastern Turkistan, it has to be in the Republic of Mongolia.

[testicularfortitude1]

fascinating...thanks for the exegesis, where can I learn more, in particular about linguistic relation or dissociation, evolution and origin of said ethnic groups...

[sgt21692]

China was bullied by foregion countries for nearly 200 years since last dynasty of Ching especially Britain, France and Japan. They invaded our Motherland by force by economic, by cultures. They tried to make Chinese peoples became their slaves and their markets and tried to make China become their colonies. Our ancestries use their blood to protect our motherland. Today, China is not easy to obtain our position in the world.

We must forward to protect our country !

[testicularfortitude1]

The people of the former soviet union, khazaks, uyghur, tajiks, turkmen, uzbeks would they consider themselves more mongolian, turk, persian, chinese, hindu or distinct; what about among themselves, do they share much kinship or does a say uzbek consider khazaks totally different?

[fightthespoons]

Well, the uyghur ethnic group was never really part of the USSR. While the ussr did have a small population of them, they never had their own autonomous republic like the others.

Tajiks consider themselves more Persian. The Tajik language is closely related to Farsi, while Kyrgyz, Kazakh, Turkmen, Uyghur, and Uzbek are Turkic languages, so thus they relate more with Turks than Mongolians, Persians, Han Chinese, or the peoples of the Indian subcontinent.

[testicularfortitude1]

Much appreciate ur excellent learned response

[tisalew]

@sgt21692

spoken like a true brain washed/ill informed chinese person....so sad.

[Leader2OO7]

@sgt21692

Than you need a second Ipman lol

[Sakalty]

it is 100 % tajik song but safely preserved and performed by chinese and tajiks. tnx

[yyyzhang]

not performed by chinese and tajiks because so little tajik in china. so they choose some uyghur actors and the actors look quit yellow blood.

[FarsiDari]

The last song 7:30 to the end is in Persian (Tajiki dialect). Amazing.

What it means it can potentially be readily underestood as far as deep into Iraq and Persian Gulf states like Bahrain and UAE.

[markohu]

this music is from?

[zhouzhzh]

The original music is a Tajik love song.

A famous Chinese composer Zhenbang Lei rewrote it for a famous Chinese movie entitled Guests to the Snow Mountain. Then it became very wellknown in China. Now only a few Chinese know that it is actually a Tajik music not a Uygur music. So I am happy to find that kwwkwwkww did not make such mistake.