PBody Brawl tournament R2 - J666 vs. Connor

[5220340]

no se como pueden decir q ese link juega bien... la verdad falta mejorar bastante, en especial q nunca usa su smash arriba, en cuanto al marth............ bueno pues si perdio ante link pues q mas debo decir xD

[ssbmJ666]

Era la primera ves ke los dos jugamos este juego

[ssbmJ666]

thanks XD

[pancakesforTrey]

J666 ur my hero man

[Matieo13]

Yeah J666 played much better in this match...that connor guy seriously needs to work on his strategy, and not sticking to the same attack plan.

[xRisingForcex]

Man Connor, it seriously looks like there's zero thought behind your decisions when it comes to when and what attack to pop.

A tipped up smash would've done it at 1:08, and the Link's d-air lag would've given you plenty of time to space yourself. And seriously, neutral A at 1:22? C'mon man, I know you're better than this. :\

[ohdamitsjovi]

Read back a couple of pages and although I agree with what people have to say about sturminator I'd like to point out L-cancelling was SUPPOSED to be in the game (melee). Wavedashing was not but Lcancelling existed in ssb64 called z-cancelling. Just like short hopping existed and ground teching etc. It makes me mad when people say things that aren't true, I don't know if you like to lie or you just like to spread rumors. Stop hating on tourneyfags, if it wasn't for them games would die faster.

[xRisingForcex]

Actually, wavedashing was found during testing but Hal decided to keep it.

The "L" in L-cancel has nothing to do with the button being depressed. It stands for LAG-cancel.

[MooseOfWoe]

It's refreshing to see someone who actually knows how to play Link the right way.

I see far too many Youtube videos of people bringing shame to the Hyrule name. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity, J666.

[xRisingForcex]

Haha, nicely said.

Go Hero of Time!

[sasuke9329]

LINK FOR TOP TIER!

[KnivesBX]

Sturminator, tourneyfags are usually gay, but you take the fucking cake. I don't even need to make any arguments against you, you've already proven your stupidity through your rambling.

[ssbmJ666]

every1 stop arguing and enjoy the Brawl

[JDbrawls]

Marth trips at 01:46, I think is something about Battlefield. Zelda trips on it too. Oh well! I dont like marth anyway. Does anyone know if wavedashing is back? I know L-cancelling is.

[ChuChu44]

yea i see that...

wat the hell happend??

[JDbrawls]

I dont know it has something to do with the stage. Hey what do you know about the L-cancelling deal. Have you heard anything about it being in Brawl.

[BlubbaPinecone]

It has nothing to do with Battlefield. Characters are known to trip on any surface on any stage. The cause is still unknown. Most likely random at this point in time. And WD is not back, niether is L-cancelling. I don't know where you got that info on it being back, but it's wrong. =]

[JDbrawls]

Well in alot of matches it looked like the characters were L-cancelling, but I WASNT very sure. So wait, the characters just fall on their asses for no reason.

[BlubbaPinecone]

Yeah. =\ For some odd reason they just fall over. We've been investigating it but our searches have yet to yield any results. (I don't have to game, but have been studying it intensely) From what we gather, it seems to happen at the begging of dash animations. Whether or not it's completely random or if something subtle is causing it we don't know.

[JDbrawls]

thats fucking weird, o well, I main Link And I hate the fact that he is so damn floaty, it sucks and also it looks like he wont be able to do that awesome bomb tech recovry anymore.

[BlubbaPinecone]

Yeah. I've been maining Link for 8 years, so I've came to really enjoy his air physics. Being as floaty as he is is a very nice thing for the heavier character he is at the same time. Helps a great deal. =] As for the almighty BombJump, well, who knows? I guess we'll just have to wait and find out.

[JDbrawls]

it sucks, so are you a pro player, or something, maybe i've seen you on a video at some point

[BlubbaPinecone]

Not recognized no. That's because I live in the middle of nowhere. =\ But since Brawl's having wifi, I plan on doing my absolute best and getting known! I do need to work on my metagame a lot though, because no one I've played in the last 4 years has been any challange at all...

[JDbrawls]

hey man check this video out of my friend TED and me (JD) playing a bunch of games, search for Cptn Falcon combo video by TED

[hahahahhaahhahhahaha]

Whoa that was fucking sweet! MArth grabbed Link's bomb so Link threw the boomerang, marth got pulled off stage with the bomb in his hands and almost died by blowing up!

[hahahahhaahhahhahaha]

Nice gale boomerang useage!

[JaxTH]

Marth parried a bomb and took no damage. AWESOME! That was REALLY troublesome in Melee when I played against Link users...

[Sturminator10]

WHY DID SAKURAI CHANGE STUFF!! he gave characters more stamina, more recovery, took out wavedashing, made it so aerial attacks are a lot more important, changed characters for the worst ex:peach, created unbalanced characters ex:pit, took out great sounds such as the crunch that happens when you hit somebody, made the game less for the hardcore and more for the casual, and so so much more. sakurai is a fool hopefully he will use wii connect 24 to update brawl and fix the havoc that he wrought.

[TimeSpaceMage]

Or, maybe we'll just adapt and find out that it's not so bad after all. =p

[gundamxzero3]

he does have a point tho, pit is crazy, just watching him play, he looks like one of thos characters that you want to stab in the eye with a spoon, but the game just came out so mayb will find out he has a weakness we dont see now, or that hes not as good as people think, like metaknight.

[Sturminator10]

Yeah but at the same time we'll constantly be angry because sakurai took the perfectly oiled machine that is melee and changed it for the worst. it may not be so bad but the truth is that it should be great. people say, "brawl is not melee get over it!" but i say theyre wrong. brawl was supposed to be melee but with more characters, stages, and items. that's it. end of story.

[hahahahhaahhahhahaha]

Stop complaning! Brawl is ten times better than melee and you know it! GET IT THROUGH YOUR SKULL! let's see you make a better game.

[Sturminator10]

you fool, i never said i could make a better game. and thats not what this argument is about. but now that you mention it, if i had the resources that sakurai had, i think i cud make a better brawl.

[hahahahhaahhahhahaha]

This is what the arguement is about you said melle is better than brawl but not in thoose exact words you said melee was a " well oiled machine" and then they screwed up BRawl, it's like no i think they fixed it!

[TimeSpaceMage]

Iwata was going to keep Brawl as "Melee for the Wii" if Sakurai didn't direct it, but Sakurai clearly stated in his early blogs how he would be changing the game (i.e. improved aerial combat).

So far Brawl seems to be much more balanced than Melee, and I'm not complaining.

[Sturminator10]

its not balanced. pit is the most unbalanced character ive ever seen in a smash brothers game.

[TimeSpaceMage]

You think Pit is more unbalanced than SSB Kirby? I don't see him doing 0-death combos, or having 20 million uncancellable spikes.

So his recovery is godly. That doesn't stop people from KOing him off the top. So his arrows are fast as hell. That doesn't mean there aren't moves that block them (and I've found two so far).

Whatever "overpowered" aspect you find, I or someone else will find a way around it. That's competitive play.

[Sturminator10]

All I'm saying is that well trained Pit would destroy a well trained Fox (the top tier from Melee). Oh, that, and Sakurai really screwed up.

[TimeSpaceMage]

Are you saying that a good Pit would beat a good Melee Fox? That's apples and oranges!

Also, I do not suggest relying on the Gamefaqs board for information. A lot of the users I've seen there are bitter over their overexpectations, and use opinions to cloud their judgement.

[Sturminator10]

no not the boards, the full reviews from the members there. okay well a well trained pit would DESTROY a well trained brawl fox. why? because pit is top tier by far above everybody else. the only reason we have seen him lose in some of these videos is because the guy hasnt had that much time to play with him as the pros do when they become good with a character.

[TimeSpaceMage]

I'm not convinced that Pit is top tier. Considering the game has just come out, we have a very limited perspective on character potential.

[bizybozo]

um.

A) u suck.

B) I doubt u even have the game, so u base all ur opinions off of the videos u see online. videos, of, players who've barely had the game for over a week.

C) the new sounds are brilliant.

D) melee was 2001.  brawl is the future. if super mario bros 3 was fuckin supermario bros 1 with more stages and characters, it would never go down as the greatest video game of all time (most players agree it surpasses even super mario bros).

E)melee was perfect? the fuck?

[Sturminator10]

A) Nice one, what are you five?

B) I based my opinions off the videos, the hands on, and the reviews of the game on gamefaqs.

C) Most of the sounds are brilliant but they took out of couple of brilliant sounds that were in Melee.

D) Nobody wanted mario bros 3 to be mario bros 1 with more characters and stages. And you cant compare these games to brawl because smash bros and the mario bros games are very very different.

[bizybozo]

A)Melee was NOT balanced, and had way too many broken characters, waveshining? the fuck? shit. at tourneys u hardly see over 1/4 of the characters being played.

B)Thanks for... proving my point. You base all ur opinions off of videos and information of a game thats been out for a week.

C)I loved the feel of ssb64, and then melee was completely different.

D)... u basically proved my point. thanks. if I don't want melee for another 5 years, I want a different game.

[bizybozo]

E) I certainly don't want melee with just more characters. Then I'd just go to tourneys, use the same characters as before, and hope the newly added characters could compete with marth fox falco sheik and peach.

[hahahahhaahhahhahaha]

Look just give up everyone here is annoyed with your attitude, if you don't like BRawl as much as melle stop commenting on the videos and go play melee!

[hahahahhaahhahhahaha]

Maybe he changed all that stuff so the pros will calm down and treat it as a game and not more than a virtual fight?

[Sturminator10]

the thing is, the fact that hardcore gamers treat melee as a virtual fight just goes to show how much depth melee has and how good a game it is.

[hahahahhaahhahhahaha]

no im' saying if you treat it MORE than a virtual fight like say, study the glitches and loop holes in Melee instead of playing with what you have for fun. Brawl makes it fun melee made it to competitive why can't we just all have fun with what we have intead of glitching to win? melee wasn't even suppose to have wavedashing or L cancling, the creator of the game admited it!

[Sturminator10]

because then brawl will not offer the same amount of longevity that melee had. melee was very addicting, but also fun, though brawl will definitely be fun, it will not keep people entertained for nearly as long as melee did.

[hahahahhaahhahhahaha]

YOUR SOME KIND OF RETARD! do you know how many new stuff they threw in? stage builder, Wi-fi, and basicly everything that was 1 player before is now two player! Look, you complain about Brawl not being like melee, but the thing is, Melee was nothing like the original game! So why does BRawl have to be like melee and not just it's own game?? you can still be competitve on Brawl, just get really good without glitches!

[Sturminator10]

stage builder is awesome. wifi kinda sucks. consider this, the point of wifi is to be able to play with other human players if you have nobody to play with. if somebody unexpectedly leaves the match, a computer plays for them. that sorta defeats the purpose dont you think? wifi doesnt keep track of how ur win loss record, nor can you play one person at random one v one. the wifi in the game kinda blows pal. the new items are cool. BUT serious matches are actually played without items.

[hahahahhaahhahhahaha]

dude, recpa friends lsit keeps track of wins and llosses not random Brawls, yes you can play 1 V 1 matches even on random Brawl, and what would be better? if everyone leaves the match and your all alone? or still have someone to fight?

[Sturminator10]

no, if everybody leaves the match you win. duuh

[TheSizMan]

i was really into this match lol.

[gundamxzero3]

of course you were, its link vs marth, and swords will fuckin cut you wide open.

[DemonmachinE]

Stupid trip got marth killed. What a stupid fucking idea.

[sskalor]

Thanks, this Vid shows Link isnt nerfed as i thought. I love the use of bombs, ive learnt a lot of link tatics from this, now im excited about using link again! :) Good Match btw!

[ssbmJ666]

lol yea i sometimees randomly tripped

[gundamxzero3]

so tripping cant be avoided.....(please say it can be)

[Computer1992]

so is tripping really random?

[SSJBurrito]

Finally. Some quality Link vids.

[jwj442]

Marth is obviously still quite good, but it looks to me like the hype about him being totally dominant in this game may be a little exagerrated.

[Kiyosuki]

You know how it is in the new games, there's always a bunch of people jumping the gun and saying this character and that character's broken.

[Di2ifter]

props to that link for using its projectiles so well. good match

[C0nn0rTheBrawler]

thunders combo at 1:50?

[drehannoush]

Wow! you got to play brawl you lucky! Your really good too!

[hiphopgunner]

hey, just wondering. do you like brawl more than melee?

[oigion]

is marth dair still useful

[C0nn0rTheBrawler]

somewhat, I only spiked once =/