strange irony in that a city teeming with homosexuals is now in ruins, a barren desert, and is being celebrated by gays because that's exactly how the religious right groups would want to see a gay city: in ruins. The inundation is another strange irony of the faith of Antinous: fundies still love to blame gays for weather disturbance & earthquakes. it's important to remember Antinoopolis but more important than the historical city is the Antinoopolis of the future, the hopes of gay people
Like Memphis the capital of the Old Kingdom of Egypt, like Akhenaten, like Luxor, like Karnak, like ancient Persepolis the great capital of the Persian Empire, like Sparta, like ancient Athens the cradle of Western philosophy and civilization, like Carthage, like ancient Rome ..... the cities of man, heterosexual and homosexual, all fall into ruin. So too is the time coming when the great cities of today will themselves lie in ruins. Antinoopolis was a great city and part of our Gay history.
Ok. not very good at social justice struggle. You did 3 videos on same person, and he was lunch for a crocodile on Nile River. You must have some other guys from history, Aleksandre of Macedonia for sure. But Pyotr Ilich Czikovski also. Today, we have neo-Nazis all over in Eastern Europe. Some want to kill Roma, others like to kill Jews, everyone want to kill you guys. You need better strategy if you want to have freedom. We hve to resist the new fascist or they will be like Communists.
Speaking as a heterosexual advocate of social justice, I cannot help but wonder why there is never a sober and meaningful float in Gay Pride Parades dedicated to the holocaust of homosexuals under the Third Reich, something more like the Jews have done. It is really very meaningful to commemorate this, not only as an answer to Fundamentalists, but also as an integral part of your own history, and people who should not be forgotten.
Thanks so much Roddymark for your comment and your support. It is very much appreciated! I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, the focus for most gays has been social issues of the present and very few spend time learning and appreciating our history. Most of my gay friends are amazed when I tell them factual stories about gay history. Several gay groups are trying to address this by creating websites on gay history and accomplishments. It is the reason that I made and posted this video.
I was part of a letter-writing campaing in Germany to have the Gay armband colour added to the monument of Dachau, in 1968. It was offensive to me that this had been left off the monument (the only one). I was there to commemorate Slavic victims, and notice the missing armband colour. We had all these protest against Communist depriving of right to exist and fighting for social justice, and I did not want to stop just there and be like "them." We once had 14 year old clasmat who suicide, was gay
Roddymark, you are a special person and someone I would be very proud to know and have as a YouTube friend. I just sent a friend invitation to your channel and hope you will accept it.
Sorry but I used computer in a monastery where I was visiting till today. They have channel, but not me. My cousin is monastic here, but the Superior of the monastery is nice. He says that we hate most in others what we fear most in ourselves. Some Communists were like that. They hated ones who wanted to be free because they were afraid of freedom. I taught my son and daughter against hatred and prejudice toward anyone.
Previous picture on my site was Andrei Marich, killed in Soviet invasion of Czech. in August, 1968. Present picture is of the "shopping bag man" in Bejing in the Tienanmin square rebellion in China.
Excuse me for interfering, but the commemoration of the holocaust under Nazis has a great deal to do with social issues of present for Gay people, just like for Jews. Social issues of today can't be solved without a political base such as the holocaust. You see that even some who struggled in Prague Spring with Dubcek think its was OK to kill Gay people so long as they were not Jewish Gay people, but only because they were Jews. You have to have better strategy. But you have your own heroes.
Mine is Alexandre Dubcek and his cabinet, and some other. I looked at video on UTube of Prague Spring and 5 times I saw myself as a young boy once on top of tank, and and twice in front of USSR tanks. It is good to remind us that freedom is all or none: if everybody does not have it, then nobody does. A country is only democracy if democracy and freedom is for everybody in the country. What good was our blood in Praha, if it was not for everyone everywhere, not just for us.
Mankind's struggle is not one between "good" and "evil". It is an on-going fight between those who truly believe in equal human rights for everyone, with no exceptions, and those who believe in rights only for an "us" and not for "them". The "us" can be based on religion, race or wealth, but in all cases the intent and purpose of their bigotry and discrimination is the same: to include only some and exclude all others.
But in such case, no one is actually free. Then you have to be prisoner to fear of "them" and "not us." The rich have to fear the poor, the white ones fear the black, the Protestant fears the catholic, and so no one is free, everyone is in prison of fear, like Kafka, Mr. K and the Trial. That is the centre of that story. Mr K was prisoner to his own self, and fear and hate are prisons, but each one is his own prison and his own prisoner and no one is free. What is that worth?
Thank you for this beautifully rendered and fascinating historical account! I appreciate the beauty, substance, and educational value of this exceptional work!
The Roman Empire grew too large to manage. With wealth and power goes corruption and the failure of government. People reject the old ways and want a new system. As the Roman provincial governments fell, local Christian Bishops took on power of the government. Like Islam today, early Christianity was barbaric and violent. You either converted from Paganism or were killed. The early Christian church simply took over managing pieces of the falling Roman Empire and killed the Pagans off.
I don't think this is so much of an accurate story about it. Bishop's did not become so powerful until after Charlemagne, in the West. In the beginning, Christian communities had a lot to offer, but when they became the Imperial Religion, then they really lost their direction. It is easy for the persecuted to become the persecutor --- look at Palestinians suffering, for example. But it seems to me that the biggest persecutor of Gay people are Gay people who hate themselves or are afraid. Rado
strange irony in that a city teeming with homosexuals is now in ruins, a barren desert, and is being celebrated by gays because that's exactly how the religious right groups would want to see a gay city: in ruins. The inundation is another strange irony of the faith of Antinous: fundies still love to blame gays for weather disturbance & earthquakes. it's important to remember Antinoopolis but more important than the historical city is the Antinoopolis of the future, the hopes of gay people
saadaya 2 years ago
Like Memphis the capital of the Old Kingdom of Egypt, like Akhenaten, like Luxor, like Karnak, like ancient Persepolis the great capital of the Persian Empire, like Sparta, like ancient Athens the cradle of Western philosophy and civilization, like Carthage, like ancient Rome ..... the cities of man, heterosexual and homosexual, all fall into ruin. So too is the time coming when the great cities of today will themselves lie in ruins. Antinoopolis was a great city and part of our Gay history.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
Ok. not very good at social justice struggle. You did 3 videos on same person, and he was lunch for a crocodile on Nile River. You must have some other guys from history, Aleksandre of Macedonia for sure. But Pyotr Ilich Czikovski also. Today, we have neo-Nazis all over in Eastern Europe. Some want to kill Roma, others like to kill Jews, everyone want to kill you guys. You need better strategy if you want to have freedom. We hve to resist the new fascist or they will be like Communists.
roddymark 2 years ago
Speaking as a heterosexual advocate of social justice, I cannot help but wonder why there is never a sober and meaningful float in Gay Pride Parades dedicated to the holocaust of homosexuals under the Third Reich, something more like the Jews have done. It is really very meaningful to commemorate this, not only as an answer to Fundamentalists, but also as an integral part of your own history, and people who should not be forgotten.
roddymark 2 years ago
Thanks so much Roddymark for your comment and your support. It is very much appreciated! I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, the focus for most gays has been social issues of the present and very few spend time learning and appreciating our history. Most of my gay friends are amazed when I tell them factual stories about gay history. Several gay groups are trying to address this by creating websites on gay history and accomplishments. It is the reason that I made and posted this video.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
I was part of a letter-writing campaing in Germany to have the Gay armband colour added to the monument of Dachau, in 1968. It was offensive to me that this had been left off the monument (the only one). I was there to commemorate Slavic victims, and notice the missing armband colour. We had all these protest against Communist depriving of right to exist and fighting for social justice, and I did not want to stop just there and be like "them." We once had 14 year old clasmat who suicide, was gay
roddymark 2 years ago
Roddymark, you are a special person and someone I would be very proud to know and have as a YouTube friend. I just sent a friend invitation to your channel and hope you will accept it.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
Sorry but I used computer in a monastery where I was visiting till today. They have channel, but not me. My cousin is monastic here, but the Superior of the monastery is nice. He says that we hate most in others what we fear most in ourselves. Some Communists were like that. They hated ones who wanted to be free because they were afraid of freedom. I taught my son and daughter against hatred and prejudice toward anyone.
roddymark 2 years ago
Previous picture on my site was Andrei Marich, killed in Soviet invasion of Czech. in August, 1968. Present picture is of the "shopping bag man" in Bejing in the Tienanmin square rebellion in China.
roddymark 2 years ago
Comment removed
allsaintsmonastery 2 years ago
Excuse me for interfering, but the commemoration of the holocaust under Nazis has a great deal to do with social issues of present for Gay people, just like for Jews. Social issues of today can't be solved without a political base such as the holocaust. You see that even some who struggled in Prague Spring with Dubcek think its was OK to kill Gay people so long as they were not Jewish Gay people, but only because they were Jews. You have to have better strategy. But you have your own heroes.
roddymark 2 years ago
Mine is Alexandre Dubcek and his cabinet, and some other. I looked at video on UTube of Prague Spring and 5 times I saw myself as a young boy once on top of tank, and and twice in front of USSR tanks. It is good to remind us that freedom is all or none: if everybody does not have it, then nobody does. A country is only democracy if democracy and freedom is for everybody in the country. What good was our blood in Praha, if it was not for everyone everywhere, not just for us.
roddymark 2 years ago
Mankind's struggle is not one between "good" and "evil". It is an on-going fight between those who truly believe in equal human rights for everyone, with no exceptions, and those who believe in rights only for an "us" and not for "them". The "us" can be based on religion, race or wealth, but in all cases the intent and purpose of their bigotry and discrimination is the same: to include only some and exclude all others.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
But in such case, no one is actually free. Then you have to be prisoner to fear of "them" and "not us." The rich have to fear the poor, the white ones fear the black, the Protestant fears the catholic, and so no one is free, everyone is in prison of fear, like Kafka, Mr. K and the Trial. That is the centre of that story. Mr K was prisoner to his own self, and fear and hate are prisons, but each one is his own prison and his own prisoner and no one is free. What is that worth?
roddymark 2 years ago
Thank you for this beautifully rendered and fascinating historical account! I appreciate the beauty, substance, and educational value of this exceptional work!
ravenrapunzel 2 years ago
Like usually, Erosgod of gays has created a marvelous clip.
I still wonder how come the Judeo-Christian virus was able to infect the ancient world and to destroy a gay-friendly civilization!
48acar19 2 years ago 2
The Roman Empire grew too large to manage. With wealth and power goes corruption and the failure of government. People reject the old ways and want a new system. As the Roman provincial governments fell, local Christian Bishops took on power of the government. Like Islam today, early Christianity was barbaric and violent. You either converted from Paganism or were killed. The early Christian church simply took over managing pieces of the falling Roman Empire and killed the Pagans off.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
I don't think this is so much of an accurate story about it. Bishop's did not become so powerful until after Charlemagne, in the West. In the beginning, Christian communities had a lot to offer, but when they became the Imperial Religion, then they really lost their direction. It is easy for the persecuted to become the persecutor --- look at Palestinians suffering, for example. But it seems to me that the biggest persecutor of Gay people are Gay people who hate themselves or are afraid. Rado
roddymark 2 years ago
Thanks for this beautiful work.
Spread the news!, Peace everybody.-
5TARS!!!
Fernando.-
fergalli 2 years ago 2
Wonderful. And don't forget to read 'Memoirs of Hadrian' by Marguerite Yourcenar - English translation by Grace Frick which is also marvellous.
tenneral 2 years ago
If one were wealthy, would it be possible to purchase some of the antiquities like those shown in these clips?
jhr459 2 years ago
What a beautiful young man.
jhr459 2 years ago
Wonderful...Wonderful...Wonderful!!!
...AVE ANTINOVS...
6celery8 2 years ago
beautifully crafted as always my friend....
thedancetuber 2 years ago
Beautifully crafted and created with stunning music, trademarks of EROSGODOFGAYS........
The Emperor Hadrian would be so appreciative of your devotion and passion.
★ ★ ★ ★ ★
anglicansag 2 years ago
very informative!
gr8 post :-)
skatifs 2 years ago