Shit fuck I want Terminator my way it better be my way in Terminator Salvation Arnold and Nick Stahl have to be in T4 as well as Michael Biehn. Clair Danes says she does not want to because she was forced to do T3 well too bad she was in it she has to stay with it for the true fans.
LOL @ John Connor looking like her sister. hahahahah thats is exactly the same thing I thought when I saw him first, he looks like a girl.
They should stop doing this lets send random jackasses back in time which has already been done to death, and focus on the future war which is clearly the more creative thing to do. Lets just hope terminator 4 does what they say it will, and focus on the future.
Why should John's protector Terminator be a girl? Why shouldn't it? It damn sure draws less attention than if a guy who looks like a former Mr. Olympia is following him around. Cameron can pass for John's sister or girlfriend. She's a Terminator...she doesn't have to be massive or intimidating looking to be dangerous.
In fact, for the original purposes of a Terminator, Cameron is better designed than the Arnold models. They are infiltration units. Personally I'd keep more of an eye on the big huge intimidating guy than the cute girl. Well, ok, I'd keep an eye on the cute girl, but not for the same reasons.
ha then by that same argument, why did the 'infiltration' unit shoot up the classroom? Why is one a girl and the other a huge dude? Nice try, but sorry, they did all this for casting and ratings with Glau or whatever as a terminator.
Lena Headey was the Queen of the Spartans. And she would kick Linda Hamilton into the pit of death.
About the classroom scene: When the hell has a Terminator EVER attempted to "maintain cover" when his objective/target was in sight? Answer: never. Their cover is minimal at best, and readily thrown to the side when they first have the opportunity to engage their target.
In T1, a T-800 failed to kill Sarah. In T2, a T-1000 failed to kill John. In T3, a TX failed to kill Kate. In T3's backstory, a T-850 killed future John. Sounds to me like the only goddamn Terminator model worth a damn in the series so far is the T-850.
You are the perfect guy for SCC. The studios make movies and tv shows just for folks like you. Enjoy it as you obviously are. Some of us are not so easily sucked in.
@kthulhuX Lena Headey was the Queen of the Spartans??? Another bad casting decision - she isn't tough, and she looks like she was some model for women fashion catalogue, no tough psychotic warrior woman.
I am mostly likely the hardest core old school T1/T2 fan here and I say the new show is very good. A huge task. Hopefully it won't get canceled because original fans are too short sighted to give it a chance.
Hey TJ, I may not agree with your views but to be honest mate I'm not going to rip into you either because you back your views up with reasons why.
I to started with T1 (though I saw it at 6 years old in 1990 thanks to my father - scared the shit outta me) saw T2 got T3 a few years back. I can see how they got where they did and I enjoyed it as a film but hated how it fucked over the last 30 mins of T2 (probably the most emotional piece in an action film) - Cont
The Sarah Connor Chronicles as far as i'm aware is supposed to bridge the gap between 2 & 3 (though i don't know how ... yet) The casting looks wierd as you've said but im enjoying it as a stand alone piece. I'll agree on how theyve fucked up the way Sarah Conor looks, just not right and as for john well yeah.
I bet jim is ow really pissed he sold the rights to the Terminator, lets just hope the future war trilogy is better and works well. Hopefully if they dont reference 3 we can forget it!
And why do the terminator characters have to overact that much? I mean Schwarzenegger did that excellent. He found the golden middle between acting (moving) like he is a machine and acting like a human. In the series they let their eyes glow, the terminator guy moves like robocop.
I just want to say that I respect your point of view. But one thing you said that I disagree with is 'No hardcore Terminator fan that has followed it from the beggining will not like it' I liked it. But I understand your point of view.
What do you expect from a Terminator!? Do you want a sneak attack from behing? First he is a sunstitute teacher. Second of all the Terminator is not supposed to care about blowing his cover its a Terminator. It has one mission and one mission only seek and destroy, it doesnt care about his cover being blown, it only cares about his mission.
The only things i found wrong about the classroom shooting scene were the fact that he had the gun in his leg and that he made the lame joke. Political correctness has got to stop. People are raped, murdered and beaten everyday, so now we have to not have anything like that in any form of film or tv?
Sorry man, showing shootings in classrooms in the current world climate is just plain irresponsible. What's next, showing towers being hit by planes for Terminator 5!?!?!
By time Termintator 5 rolls around enough time should have passed to show something like that. Otherwise, once a terrible event happens no one would ever be able to show anything even remotely close to it on film or tv ever. Hmm, how do you judge when it isn't offensive? Political correctness gets on my nerves and insensitive people get on my nerves. Is there a safe middle ground?
Tj, as a screenwriter I have to concur with Riyokintyu, but everything else you've conveyed I wholeheartedly agree with. (Even children's TV is offensive to someone. Violence of any form, is, off the bat, offensive.)
This show, shouldn't even involve a single terminator. It should be about Sarah and John being on the run, trying to evade law enforcement, whilst focusing primarily on character development.
Shit fuck I want Terminator my way it better be my way in Terminator Salvation Arnold and Nick Stahl have to be in T4 as well as Michael Biehn. Clair Danes says she does not want to because she was forced to do T3 well too bad she was in it she has to stay with it for the true fans.
Mastersun88 3 years ago
stahl? stahl? stahl! he was a whinning bitch in T3!
zilla19982 3 years ago
LOL @ John Connor looking like her sister. hahahahah thats is exactly the same thing I thought when I saw him first, he looks like a girl.
They should stop doing this lets send random jackasses back in time which has already been done to death, and focus on the future war which is clearly the more creative thing to do. Lets just hope terminator 4 does what they say it will, and focus on the future.
changerofwayz 4 years ago
Why should John's protector Terminator be a girl? Why shouldn't it? It damn sure draws less attention than if a guy who looks like a former Mr. Olympia is following him around. Cameron can pass for John's sister or girlfriend. She's a Terminator...she doesn't have to be massive or intimidating looking to be dangerous.
kthulhuX 4 years ago
In fact, for the original purposes of a Terminator, Cameron is better designed than the Arnold models. They are infiltration units. Personally I'd keep more of an eye on the big huge intimidating guy than the cute girl. Well, ok, I'd keep an eye on the cute girl, but not for the same reasons.
kthulhuX 4 years ago
ha then by that same argument, why did the 'infiltration' unit shoot up the classroom? Why is one a girl and the other a huge dude? Nice try, but sorry, they did all this for casting and ratings with Glau or whatever as a terminator.
tjialpha 4 years ago
Lena Headey was the Queen of the Spartans. And she would kick Linda Hamilton into the pit of death.
About the classroom scene: When the hell has a Terminator EVER attempted to "maintain cover" when his objective/target was in sight? Answer: never. Their cover is minimal at best, and readily thrown to the side when they first have the opportunity to engage their target.
kthulhuX 4 years ago
In T1, a T-800 failed to kill Sarah. In T2, a T-1000 failed to kill John. In T3, a TX failed to kill Kate. In T3's backstory, a T-850 killed future John. Sounds to me like the only goddamn Terminator model worth a damn in the series so far is the T-850.
kthulhuX 4 years ago
You are the perfect guy for SCC. The studios make movies and tv shows just for folks like you. Enjoy it as you obviously are. Some of us are not so easily sucked in.
tjialpha 4 years ago
HAHAHAHA, of man this guy is a real hoot. Yeah sure, Lena 'FHM model' Headey would own Linda Hamilton from T2. Yeah buddy. Keep smoking.
tjialpha 4 years ago
In reality, Linda Hamilton, at the same age, would have killed delicate Lena Headey. Have you EVEN seen T2?
Y2Krashman 4 years ago
@kthulhuX Lena Headey was the Queen of the Spartans??? Another bad casting decision - she isn't tough, and she looks like she was some model for women fashion catalogue, no tough psychotic warrior woman.
1701EarlGrey 1 year ago
I am mostly likely the hardest core old school T1/T2 fan here and I say the new show is very good. A huge task. Hopefully it won't get canceled because original fans are too short sighted to give it a chance.
Noisycowonline 4 years ago
Hey TJ, I may not agree with your views but to be honest mate I'm not going to rip into you either because you back your views up with reasons why.
I to started with T1 (though I saw it at 6 years old in 1990 thanks to my father - scared the shit outta me) saw T2 got T3 a few years back. I can see how they got where they did and I enjoyed it as a film but hated how it fucked over the last 30 mins of T2 (probably the most emotional piece in an action film) - Cont
AtomicFFProductions 4 years ago
The Sarah Connor Chronicles as far as i'm aware is supposed to bridge the gap between 2 & 3 (though i don't know how ... yet) The casting looks wierd as you've said but im enjoying it as a stand alone piece. I'll agree on how theyve fucked up the way Sarah Conor looks, just not right and as for john well yeah.
I bet jim is ow really pissed he sold the rights to the Terminator, lets just hope the future war trilogy is better and works well. Hopefully if they dont reference 3 we can forget it!
AtomicFFProductions 4 years ago
Just give them a break it's not bad. Life is too short..Lena Headey is the perfect woman for the role. Peace..
toxictears10 4 years ago
And why do the terminator characters have to overact that much? I mean Schwarzenegger did that excellent. He found the golden middle between acting (moving) like he is a machine and acting like a human. In the series they let their eyes glow, the terminator guy moves like robocop.
Progfan1978 4 years ago
Lena Heady was cast for sex appeal, over the attributes of a traumatized para-military commando.
Y2Krashman 4 years ago
I watched that classroom scene ONLY. I think the Terminator guy would definately win something at the 'overacting awards' LOL. Terrible actor.
nogginzinc 4 years ago
I just want to say that I respect your point of view. But one thing you said that I disagree with is 'No hardcore Terminator fan that has followed it from the beggining will not like it' I liked it. But I understand your point of view.
chrisdelionuwf 4 years ago
Don't hold back man... tell us how you really feel!!!
bushleaguer1972 4 years ago
I guess you didn't like it
kellysmash99 4 years ago
What do you expect from a Terminator!? Do you want a sneak attack from behing? First he is a sunstitute teacher. Second of all the Terminator is not supposed to care about blowing his cover its a Terminator. It has one mission and one mission only seek and destroy, it doesnt care about his cover being blown, it only cares about his mission.
rubengtz633 4 years ago
Im excited to see the pilot tonight.
alexfrJAWS 4 years ago
The only things i found wrong about the classroom shooting scene were the fact that he had the gun in his leg and that he made the lame joke. Political correctness has got to stop. People are raped, murdered and beaten everyday, so now we have to not have anything like that in any form of film or tv?
godswillfearme 4 years ago
Sorry man, showing shootings in classrooms in the current world climate is just plain irresponsible. What's next, showing towers being hit by planes for Terminator 5!?!?!
tjialpha 4 years ago
By time Termintator 5 rolls around enough time should have passed to show something like that. Otherwise, once a terrible event happens no one would ever be able to show anything even remotely close to it on film or tv ever. Hmm, how do you judge when it isn't offensive? Political correctness gets on my nerves and insensitive people get on my nerves. Is there a safe middle ground?
Riyokintyu 4 years ago
Tj, as a screenwriter I have to concur with Riyokintyu, but everything else you've conveyed I wholeheartedly agree with. (Even children's TV is offensive to someone. Violence of any form, is, off the bat, offensive.)
This show, shouldn't even involve a single terminator. It should be about Sarah and John being on the run, trying to evade law enforcement, whilst focusing primarily on character development.
Y2Krashman 4 years ago
you should join the talkback website
tjialpha 4 years ago
I will definitely consider it.
Y2Krashman 4 years ago
You are so closed minded about this show.
BtVSP3 4 years ago
Not at all. I am stating my opinion based on many reasons I outline. The show is a travesty on a franchise that used to have genuine integrity.
tjialpha 4 years ago
Dude this show is a Abomination
lensterleon 4 years ago
They don't care man, its all about business
Indubitably14 4 years ago
Yeah, they shouldn't have that scene of a classroom shooting with recent events in America. I agree with ya' man.
ArmyGuns89 4 years ago