Massey was an asshole outfit period.Guys tell me now that alpha has taken over things are a lot better.Alphas new company slogan...``Running Right!``....implying that things were running wrong before they took over and they were.
this guy is so full of shit! nothing was denied, that mine was closed for some time after this happened. this guy is a sheep reading somebody elses words.
actually hes telling somewhat the truth i worked at a ky massey mine for five years they threatened to fire me my grandfather died and i couldn't leave or miss to be there, i know how they operate idk about all the other massey mines i know how the 1 i work at really is, you have to be put threw it to know, i got laid off for taken my wife to the hospital she had a deadly cancer spot on her liver, i asked for time off i gave a 72 hour notice and the super said it was ok i come back to no job
I work for massey and this is bull shit....My cousin died in the UBB mine and I know first hand this guy is full of shit...Massey has kept miners working while other mines are laying off. I just recently started bossing for massey and know there is alot responsibility that goes with this job. Its your responsibility to make sure your gas checks are done and they the guys keep everything ventilated right. Don can't be at every mines every day. And as for the violations, a mine changes everyday.
There is no way you can keep up with every little detail. MSHA inspectors come to our section at least 2 times a week. Safety violation can be as small as a clamp missing of the head drive guard. Its very easy to write over a hundered safety violations if an inspector wanted to. This would have been different if it was D orders or K orders or something of that nature. If you don't know anything about coal mining then you probably shouldn't put stupid ass videos on here.
im tellin you whats the truth this guy is so full of shit its not funny my dad works for massey energy and i know for a fac that the men who workd at the ubb mine got time off to go to thier friends funerals because the fucking mine blew up and still hasnt opend back up for production yet so tell me how men are going to work in a mine that is still on fire ?
i hate dumbass people who dont know anytinhg their talking about
@MaJieMao They should have shut Acorn down for fighting against "redlining", and threatening lawsuits on banks when they wanted to be permitted to do business in new cities. If they didnt have the "correct" percent of loans to people who never paid a debt in their life, they were delayed years in court. So, loan to anybody... Hows that working out America??
@datniggami6 Owning a business requires some capital in most cases. Capital is what is left and invested when you dont spend your entire paycheck. I sold automobiles for years, ran credit reports on folks every day, and I can tell you certain kinds of people just think it is acceptable to borrow, and not repay anyone they can convince to give them money. You would (or maybe would not) be surprised how irresponsible certain "groups" of people are "datniggami6".
@SupremePenguinTone Hey, the Brit commie. Pick a topic, and lets have at it. How about this.... Our opinions on the issues of govt spending are becoming moot, because the markets are trashing Sovereign Debt, and fiscal conservatism is being imposed by investors. If govts fail to cut programs and inflate their way out, currencies will collapse. Either way, the era of the free lunch is over.
@SupremePenguinTone Hey, the Brit commie. Pick a topic, and lets have at it. How about this.... Our opinions on the issues of govt spending are becoming moot, because the markets are trashing Sovereign Debt, and fiscal conservatism is being imposed by investors. If govts fail to cut programs and inflate their way out, currencies will collapse. Either way, the era of the free lunch is over.
@SupremePenguinTone Hey, the Brit commie. Pick a topic, and lets have at it. How about this.... Our opinions on the issues of govt spending are becoming moot, because the markets are trashing Sovereign Debt, and fiscal conservatism is being imposed by investors. If govts fail to cut programs and inflate their way out, currencies will collapse. Either way, the era of the free lunch is over.
Hey, the Brit commie. Pick a topic, and lets have at it. How about this.... Our opinions on the issues of govt spending are becoming moot, because the markets are trashing Sovereign Debt, and fiscal conservatism is being imposed by investors. If govts fail to cut programs and inflate their way out, currencies will collapse. Either way, the era of the free lunch is over.
@ginawilliams99 PS - 57 mines weren't "raided", it was a surprise inspection because of criticism of MSHA for ignoring or not doing enough over SERIOUS violations. Young Turks really needs to do a little research before calling their rants NEWS.
The Mining Executives, the Corporate CEO's and everyone else who cut corners to increase profit, should all be charged with MASS MURDER and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE and IGNORING CORPORATE LAWS.
Massey Energy TypePublic (NYSE: MEE) IndustryCoal Founded1920 (Richmond, Virginia) HeadquartersRichmond, VA Key peopleDon Blankenship, Chairman & CEO Baxter Phillips, President Christopher Adkins, SVP & COO John Poma, VP & CAO Shane Harvey, VP & General Counsel Revenue$2.41 billion (12-31-07) [1] Net income$94.1 million (12-31-07) [2] Employeesapprox. 5,400 [3] Website: masseyenergyco. com
Satanic Shit Don Blackenship (This Jews real name is Don Blankstein) has purchased the police department and also purchased Judges on the West Virginia Supreme Court.
The American Neocon/Zionist Corporate-Owned Government made sure that the Mine Safety and Health Administration WAS NEVER ALLOWED TO SHUT DOWN THE MINE.
@halcyon0830 Oh, I see, you hate Jews! Yea, they are a problem, working, producing, getting ahead, all the stuff you cant figure out. Jealous little twerp.
Insider Traders, Scam Artists, Bank Robbers & Corporate Criminals who are in Jail right now, were also hard working smart people (smart in finding out how to profit from cutting corners, oppression, bending the rules & how to commit crimes and escape the authorities, and how to get rich quick through deceptions, scams and lies, they all were smart & had intelligence TO DO EVIL), they all produced things that helped them, they got ahead, they did all the dishonest scummy stuff & made major money.
@halcyon0830 If they are in jail, I believe they were criminals. What is your point? Are you waiting for the day when everyone feeds starving people in need? I think you have your hand out, and want the govt to steal from a producer, and put more in it.
@halcyon0830 I wonder, after reading your report on EVIL massey enrgy, if you did the math (can you?) to figure out the percent profit Massey made in your numbers, which are correct, as per Yahoo finance. 3.9% profit. 94 mill to Massey, 35 mill to the Feds. $100 income, $4 profit. Big Deal. What a dope, hard to convince anybody to be a commie with a lousy profit like that. Figure the profit on market capitalization, if you can, dope.
@moronicnotions Please turn off your lights, and your computer immediately. Electricity is mainly generated by coal and gas, and gas is mainly a by-product of searching for petroleum. So, you are sending miners to their deaths by your "mean coal" posts, and polluting the Gulf of Mexico while you are at it. Mean CONSUMER!!
@BcallingDB Wherever the leader of a corporation that gets the fossil fuel out of the ground that produces electricity, so you can pretend you are so noble, when your life depends on his success, and your bad thoughts for him can be sent by computers running on the power he and his men risk their lives for.
Karma will one day come back at these sick bastards. You call this trust on corporations? I find it sickening and cruel in so many ways. These supervisor bastards ..... should be fired...or better yet sent to jail. (Yes I say jail so they can go through the hell they made on the workers and people who's loved ones died from doing their work).
I'm not a big fan of Unions, but if ever there was a need for a Union it is in the mining industry. Obviously the threat of fines have no effect, perhaps a mass walkout is needed. Then again the Oil companies would love that strategy.
This is what happens when Greed is more important than empathy for your fellow citizens.
Massey needs to be bought out by someone with ethics and integrity, and then have his money taken away just for the karma of it. I hope he enjoys his nice permanant vacation in hell.
Let this be a lesson to you kids out there. Stay in school. Get a good education. Don't be like the dumb fucks that have to work in the coal mines. Those miners get fucked over by the ones who got a good education.
I'm beginning to wonder when we'll get the balls to go after these corporations as employees, communities and individuals. I'd suggest striking coal, but what then? People won't consent to turning off their lights, televisions and computers for 24 or 48 hours. I hate this attitude... where people with money have worked harder, and they're always right, etc...
@starla109 Opportunity exists in the US, its hard to be poor here, unless you really work at it. But, when people dont study, or take a chance or ten in business, and end up losers, they want the govt to "even it out". My wife came to the US, no English 9 years ago, started a business, grossed 72K 2008, down 20% since. Meanwhile, our inner cities filled with citizens on welfare, generation after generation.
@luvcheney1 Aren't you a little hypocritical? I think you might enjoy making yourself the object of negative attention. I want to ensure that the people who bring me my electricity are at least taken care of, that they work in safe environments where they don't die, and that some environmental precautions are taken so we have clean drinking water in forty years. 2/3 people on welfare are children, with a large % of elderly. Yes, we should all study. Pick up a book about welfare policy sometime.
@starla109 Perhaps we ought to consider the Fed govt regulating safety. Os shit, they do. We also should regulate oil drilling, we have a mess! Oh shit, we do. We ought to have been regulating the banking system. Oh shit, we were. Then we should have a central bank to insure stability. Oh shit, we have since 1913. Perhaps we should have a war on poverty! Oh shit, we have for 40+yrs! We should have public schools so our kids are smart! Oh shit, we do, and they are pathetic! Im out of characters
@booley How compelling an argument you make. In other words, if the Govt does anything, it may as well do everything? Do you think only the Govt could provide police services? Put out fires? Are you serious? When there are really difficult fires, like when Saddam lit all the oil wells on fire in Iraq, who put them out? Of the things you mentioned, only the military is mentioned in the Constitution, Article 1, Sect 8. Fire/ police/ education are State issues, military is a Federal issue, dope.
@booley You are the one supporting regulations, not I. Regulations are Govt power. State Govt IS Govt, but, if it is not listed in Article 1, Section 8, it is NOT Constitutional for the Federal Govt to do it, it is legal for a State, if not specifically prohibited. Regulations are impotent. They do nothing. BP lost over $100 bill in market capitalization at one point, but what would Govt fines be? 1 million? $5 billion so far in the fund? The market hammered them far worse. Civil court is where
@luvcheney1 "You are the one supporting regulations, not I. Regulations are Govt power. "
Yes but that has nothing to do with gov controlling everything. That's stupid. Just because there are traffic lights doesn't mean you live in a police state.
& in case you forgot (& I guess you did) the 20 billion fund from BP was supposed to pay for the damages they caused. The market isn't paying for those damages.
@booley Civil law is the LEGAL process to sue for damages to those injured by BP, financially, and physically. Law is dead in the US now. Just take from GM`s bondholders, right? Except that the US is now a 3rd world nation, run by thugs, who extort billions, without allowing BP its day in court, nor GM bondholders. There is no legal authority for these actions. But, men like Hugo Chavez, Obama, Cardenas, Lenin do not need legal authority, do they? When the law is ignored, capital leaves.
@luvcheney1 I know what civil law is just like I also know the history of sueing corpss such as exxon and BP & all the myriad ways they have to reduce any awards against to nothing
For instance the 75 million liability cap
There doesnt' need to be a trial as to if BP spilled oil. They admitted it. It was their well. The damage was caused by BP.
Which leads to the utter failing of your ideology because in your worldbetter peopel sicken and die waiting for some magical invisible hand to step in
@luvcheney1 But what's just as bad is how you base it on ignorance.
GM for example. They ASKED for a bail out. They went to washington and begged for it twice. and because they got it they are now actually turning a profit.
If someone bails out a company to keep it from failing, making sure that that investment is likely to be paid back is the least one should do.
@luvcheney1 and of course you still have no explained how this would work for Massey energy since anyone who sued them would lose thier job and be destitute, waiting for years for a court award that would probably never come (especially since judges there are elected and Massey has actually bought a few just for this sort of thing)
BTW, oil companies lease the land from venezuela so even Chavez was legal in what he did.
@luvcheney1 Oh shit I almost forgot. BP was not forced to make that 20 billion escrow. They agreed, undoubtidly to boost their horrible PR image and possibly reduce the possibility of CRIMINAL charges and legislation against off shore drilling.
So lets just chalk that up to something else you are ignorant of. But hey, keep up that OUTRAGE!!!! The people poisoning you sure do appreciate your commitment to them.
@booley If you believe that BP "voluntarily" gave the money, YOU are misinformed. Perhaps you also ought to read Securities ans Exchange Commission law, on who gets what in a bankruptcy. Secured bondholders are paid off BEFORE stockholders. In bankruptcy, GM would be sold, and the portions of it with value ( the big car, big truck, SUV divisions) would bring money, and that money goes to secured bondholders FIRST. But, the Admin just gave the corp to itself, Canada, the unions.
@booley The $75 million liability cap is from the Govt. Why? To encourage oil exploration, which keeps prices lower. Now, we have a new goal. Discourage exploration, discourage production, to make gas as expensive as possible. The $20 bill "escrow acct" is about as voluntary as when the butcher pays protection money to the local mafia thugs. I know you, and other ignorant lefties, like thuggery against those who attempt to put gas in your tank at reasonable prices, but thuggery scares capital.
@booley Scaring capital is precisely why Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, starving Marxist nations in Africa, Eastern Europe under the Soviets, were/are economic wrecks, poverty everywhere. Mexico nationalized its oil, capital stayed away. Go ahead, ignore the rul;e of law. "Outsourcing"? Do you like outsourcing? You must! 39% corp tax rates ( while OECD avg is 24%), regulatory costs, environmental, permits, all these do is make capital flee. Now, we ignore law also. Great! Jobs go away, forever.
@luvcheney1 of course a few other things you seemed to have left out is that if we are talking about a free market as you guys seem to so often define it. it doesn't work.
Corporations can easily get out of civil court judgements. They have billions of dollars and armies of lawyers. In Exxons case, they simply had to wait until their victims began to die off.
This is a problem that is perfectly within the gov's job to deal with. Otherwise why have a government.
@luvcheney1 Not to mention that in this case market forces and civil courts wont' help anyone working at massey.
Individuals dont' buy coal anymore so you can hardly boycott. Few know where the coal their power companies use comes from and have no say in any case.
& if a worker sues massey then he loses his job with no other jobs to replace it.
OF course I see I'm talking to a free market fundie. You take it on blind faith that somehow the market will make things works out al by itself.
here's an Idea,lets say something happens to one of his buddy's or family members.not telling anyone to do anything to him,just wait till the occasion when he needs to get to a funeral.then barre him from going to that funeral and every funeral for every one of the Miner's he denied!
I do not wish for the death of anyone but if he tries to go to a funeral at all I think he needs to know what he put people through and feel it himself.
@wickedman6 You really thing mines shouldn't be regulated? What about child labor? What about asbestos and lung cancer? You think it is appropriate to consider a human a easy replaceable when broken cog in a machine?
@harvellt When economies are poor, children work to support the family. Once the economic system improves so that the extra income is not needed, no more child labor. Same for long hours, breaks, OT etc., productivity must be good enough first. Govt fines to Massey are not motivation enough, private enterprise greedy lawyers, and a civil court system will provide the motivation. Just as BP`s oil cleanup, lawsuits willl motivate other explorers. Govt is impotent, and not needed.
@luvcheney1 It simply wouldn't work that way consider America. I don't consider us a poor economy, but in poor families you already have kids in there early teens drooping out of high school to help generate income for their families. They don't get an education and cant make enough to support their children later in life. The cycle repeats. The idea is minimum wage, and child labor laws should work in conjunction to make sure parents make enough to support and educate children.
harvellt I'm not sure what law your talking about, but if you run a company where a worker cannot add $10(much higher than minimum wage) worth of value to your products in an hour then the company needs some serous re-design. People who run businesses poorly can not keep blaming everything in the world but them selves
@harvellt Yes, if a business cant afford to pay $10 hr, well that poor inner city kid ought to not get any work experience. Let him learn to go to the welfare office and beg, like his mamma.
@rjbonacolta They have only done this since they flushed Socialism down the toilet and allowed their people to be exploited and turned into the world's biggest sweat shop.
@SupremePenguinTone Yes, and they flock from the countryside by the millions, into the cities for the pleasure of being exploited! Some of these Chinese have all the nerve too, they even want cars! They have no right to live well! Imagine, living better with sweatshops, just as the Americans did! No unions in Mao`s time! And now, conditions getting better! Damn Chinamen, wanting a good life. Fuck!
In Canada we had a very similar experience in coal mining called the West-ray tragedy that brought about legislation to find managers and senior executives at mining sites CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT and can be put in jail. I hope my fellow miners across the border get the same results so that no more miners have to die in vein.
Also, I would not work in a mine without the protection of a union. Safety is number one for workers but falls behind profits and public relations for CEO's
@Xwowplaya No 1st amendment either, just name it "hate speech", eh, Canuck? You betcha! No damn investments in branded drugs either for you, just buy what someone else develops.
@luvcheney1 You are a completely ignorant troll. I give an excellent example of how corporate greed killed 26 people and the best you can do is insult my country and the lives of those 26 miners with hollow, biased neo con dribble? It looks as though the realm of neo cons has gone beyond world view and delved into the realm of religious cult. You are the type of American the world hates and eventually will become the harbinger of its downfall through uneducated policies.
@Xwowplaya It appears Canadian mines kill too, as is normal. Springhill Bump, 74 dead 1958, Giant mine 1992 ( angry union member blew up comrades, Westray disaster, 1992 26 dead and Sullivan mine 2006. 2 minutes on google. You are an arrogant, motherfucker who thinks you slimy bastards are so holy. I see, every year, you fucking Canadians camping here in the SW United States, getting your retired Canadians knees, hips replaced in the Palm Springs area, your govt doesnt care.
Corporations will always treat their employees as slaves... and Cenk has mentioned and explained this many MANY times... that... this country is controlled and owned by CORPORATIONS...
it is time to boot out all the fucking republicans and democrats who take money from corporations... and it is time to vote for INDEPENDENTS who do not take money from corporations....
@Pher0cious Damn corporations, all the nerve! Making things people want and need, and employing them too. Who needs stuff! Who needs a job. We dont. Now, I`m going to generate my own electricity with grass clippings, not coal.
@Blockygraphics Your confusing the political term "anarchy" with chaos. Not having laws on individual freedom does not mean not having laws on political structures.
@tonymel2005 "As tonymel2005 clicks on "post", sending electrons, generated by burning Massey Coal, into the internet". Damn, how do you spell "hypocrite?"
@Blockygraphics Also, I "sympathize" with no-one outside of my family and friends. The word "sympathize has to deal with emotion, and I certainly have no emotion of happieness towards any government, organization or corporation.
Interesting conclussion since I am an anarchist. But yes, if humans are to have any government or capitalism, then there must be check and balances just like democracy itself. Everyone understand that you are not anti-fotball because you want regulation on the field, same goes with capitalism, government or any other function. It must be constantly regulated by a minimum of 2 other functions.
That is not "communism", but if you want to destroy the term, enjoy.
@Blockygraphics Check out the part where they say one of the violations was "having an emergency air vent blowing air in the wrong direction.
One was an emergency air vent blowing air in the wrong direction and according to a few different papers miners went to their congressman saying the mines were deathtraps.
Am from west virginia and half what cenk said is true but you must understand without the mines people out there are in ghost towns and they just get up and move. Its trap that must people get into and can't get out if they wanted to.
Nationalize these businesses Obama. Regulations are not now and apparently will not ever be honored. In addition to putting safe practices back in place you will also gain direct access to the coal industry business future direction.
@JWY That would be nice but we cant even hold on to net neutrality with out people loading there guns in preparation for the government Internet take over.
Yeah....It's a shame we didn't switch over to alternative sources 30 years ago. Who has been in the way of this change? Oh, right, pathetic intellectually bankrupt repubs.
@rinka777778 Sure, we could switch over if we wanted to live at a lower standard of living. The Fact that the Fed Goct subsidizes wind, solar, bio- fuel etc proves the point. These imaginary solutions are not viable yet.
So speaking of the PR machine I saw a commercial come on with a women with a soothing voice talking about how the miners that died are courageos, sons, fathers, and most of all heroes.
Before it even came up at the bottom of the screen, at the end, really small i knew it was a PR campaign for masey. The got the PR guys working tripple time and the commercial makes me sick. Not for the message but for why its on the air.
The artificial sympathy won't make us forget about you Mr. Blankenship.
I know these mine workers need to make a living, but seriously, WALK THE FUCK OUT!!! When there is no one left there to mine their coal, and provide the fuel for the states power needs, and Massey starts losing millions, then someone might start to listen.
WALK OUT NOW!!! ALL OF YOU!! If you don't, then you are just as greedy as the CEO's, putting your money needs over your human needs.
I live in ashland, KY which is 10 miles from huntington, wv. So I've seen a lot of coverage. Your statements are a bit unfair. Most of these people live in very small rural towns where there are NO good jobs. They are not going to risk losing their job to do this. They can't chance it. Most of them do this work so there sons/daughters don't have too. They save for college funds/getting there family out of there. Any coal miner asked will say they don't want there sons to mine.
@lordtalon69 Statements are not only unfair - they're completely wrong. The mining industry is highly regulated and inspected. This video looks like something treehuggers put together. The same huggers who are trying to shut down the industry that supplies over half of the electricity in the US.
Mining companies operate under legal permits and with oversight by various agencies. This report is totally ridiculous and the reporter obviously knows nothing about mining.
@socialgarbage2 I totally agree with you, but those miners have families to feed, so I understand why they would keep working knowing that they were getting f*cked by Massey.
@socialgarbage2 Yea! who needs electricity! Oh shit, YOU do, so you can bash the folks who risk their reputations, and lives to get it for you, you goddamn loser.
Massey Energy extends its deepest condolences to the families who lost loved ones at Upper Big Branch.
Massey continues to focus at this time on attending to the families to ensure they have the support they need as we continue to work diligently with state and federal authorities to try to determine the cause of this tragic explosion as quickly as possible.
It is cheaper to pay for the lawyers to fight the fines and to correct the safety violations. Make them shut down the mines until the violations are fixed. However, part of the problem is the miners who will fight to keep the mines open because they would not be able to afford to not work while they are fixing things....
I'm reminded of the movie Zoolander where Ben Stiller works for one day, with his dad, in the coal mines. After work he is coughing like a girl complaining "I think I have the black lung pops."
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The only reason liberals care about this mine story is because they hate coal. All of those environmental wackos with their hybrids and solar panels really need to calm the fuck down. Consumers will always pick cheapest energy, no matter how much you gonna bitch about it.
@Blockygraphics You're right...if we enforced existing regulation and forced him to fix things or shut his mines down then all of the accidents over the past decade that his refusal to keep up to safety standards caused would not have happened.
Capitalism was only "moral" in the 50's-90's when it was people in the 3rd world who were being fucked over....
People only started seeing it's flaws when ceos started to treat american lives as if they were tissue paper.
Be honest...if it was a mine in africa, indonesia, or central america owned by massey and a thousand people died because safety violations were ignored would it be covered?
@Blockygraphics, Yeah, you stuff them in a casket. And then you begin sifting through the charred and useless remnants of the coal mine you just exploded. And then you spend millions of dollars in legal fees paying off the family members of the deceased workers you just killed; workers you will spend millions paying for even though they are no longer producing anything. And then you watch as your company name is righteously dragged through the mud for murdering it's own employees.
"We need regulators and enforcers"? I understand the concept but, in practical terms, why fix something if you can simply pay a fine that is enormously less than the fix. Greed and ego...how in the world can THAT be regulated?
Exactly!! That is a huge problem with this country everyone is soo F#$%^&ing selfish!! Evil, Selfish, what is the difference?
KazokuMugiwara 1 month ago
Massey was an asshole outfit period.Guys tell me now that alpha has taken over things are a lot better.Alphas new company slogan...``Running Right!``....implying that things were running wrong before they took over and they were.
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this guy is so full of shit! nothing was denied, that mine was closed for some time after this happened. this guy is a sheep reading somebody elses words.
toynazi 6 months ago
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actually hes telling somewhat the truth i worked at a ky massey mine for five years they threatened to fire me my grandfather died and i couldn't leave or miss to be there, i know how they operate idk about all the other massey mines i know how the 1 i work at really is, you have to be put threw it to know, i got laid off for taken my wife to the hospital she had a deadly cancer spot on her liver, i asked for time off i gave a 72 hour notice and the super said it was ok i come back to no job
tallperson13 10 months ago
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tallperson13 10 months ago
I work for massey and this is bull shit....My cousin died in the UBB mine and I know first hand this guy is full of shit...Massey has kept miners working while other mines are laying off. I just recently started bossing for massey and know there is alot responsibility that goes with this job. Its your responsibility to make sure your gas checks are done and they the guys keep everything ventilated right. Don can't be at every mines every day. And as for the violations, a mine changes everyday.
keithsmartin 11 months ago
There is no way you can keep up with every little detail. MSHA inspectors come to our section at least 2 times a week. Safety violation can be as small as a clamp missing of the head drive guard. Its very easy to write over a hundered safety violations if an inspector wanted to. This would have been different if it was D orders or K orders or something of that nature. If you don't know anything about coal mining then you probably shouldn't put stupid ass videos on here.
keithsmartin 11 months ago
What is this the 1900's!?!?!?!
issaclover56 11 months ago
there are some people that just suck
MetalIsEvolution 1 year ago
im tellin you whats the truth this guy is so full of shit its not funny my dad works for massey energy and i know for a fac that the men who workd at the ubb mine got time off to go to thier friends funerals because the fucking mine blew up and still hasnt opend back up for production yet so tell me how men are going to work in a mine that is still on fire ?
i hate dumbass people who dont know anytinhg their talking about
dillphill2008 1 year ago
@dillphill2008 Nice way of twisting the truth.
They're not talking about the workers from the UBB mine. They're talking about the miners who work at other mines. Massey owns almost all of them.
sleazybtd 1 year ago
funerals are overrated, I mean they can be fun, but they're not worth it
MANJUICEIFY 1 year ago
@MaJieMao They should have shut Acorn down for fighting against "redlining", and threatening lawsuits on banks when they wanted to be permitted to do business in new cities. If they didnt have the "correct" percent of loans to people who never paid a debt in their life, they were delayed years in court. So, loan to anybody... Hows that working out America??
luvcheney1 1 year ago
How Can the Owners Of These Mines Sleep?
bestkeptsecretout 1 year ago
Hold On To God's Hand Families Of The Lost Miners God's Got Your Hands Just Squeeze His Tight!
bestkeptsecretout 1 year ago
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harvellt 1 year ago
Pro-life?
glvdtxn 1 year ago
My guess is that the owners are pure caucasian.
datniggami6 1 year ago
@datniggami6 Owning a business requires some capital in most cases. Capital is what is left and invested when you dont spend your entire paycheck. I sold automobiles for years, ran credit reports on folks every day, and I can tell you certain kinds of people just think it is acceptable to borrow, and not repay anyone they can convince to give them money. You would (or maybe would not) be surprised how irresponsible certain "groups" of people are "datniggami6".
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 LMAO! We all have our flaws. No one's perfect. I'm just stating the obvious.
datniggami6 1 year ago
@datniggami6 And I am telling you WHY certain groups succeed, and some dont. I felt that to be obvious too.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 Can't you just fuck off and stop trolling ? Go masturbate to some Glenn Beck antics.
SupremePenguinTone 1 year ago
@SupremePenguinTone Cant think of an idea, can you?
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 Read my response on the other video.
SupremePenguinTone 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 YAWNNNNNNNN
SupremePenguinTone 1 year ago
@SupremePenguinTone Hey, the Brit commie. Pick a topic, and lets have at it. How about this.... Our opinions on the issues of govt spending are becoming moot, because the markets are trashing Sovereign Debt, and fiscal conservatism is being imposed by investors. If govts fail to cut programs and inflate their way out, currencies will collapse. Either way, the era of the free lunch is over.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@SupremePenguinTone Hey, the Brit commie. Pick a topic, and lets have at it. How about this.... Our opinions on the issues of govt spending are becoming moot, because the markets are trashing Sovereign Debt, and fiscal conservatism is being imposed by investors. If govts fail to cut programs and inflate their way out, currencies will collapse. Either way, the era of the free lunch is over.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
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@SupremePenguinTone Hey, the Brit commie. Pick a topic, and lets have at it. How about this.... Our opinions on the issues of govt spending are becoming moot, because the markets are trashing Sovereign Debt, and fiscal conservatism is being imposed by investors. If govts fail to cut programs and inflate their way out, currencies will collapse. Either way, the era of the free lunch is over.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
Hey, the Brit commie. Pick a topic, and lets have at it. How about this.... Our opinions on the issues of govt spending are becoming moot, because the markets are trashing Sovereign Debt, and fiscal conservatism is being imposed by investors. If govts fail to cut programs and inflate their way out, currencies will collapse. Either way, the era of the free lunch is over.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
keep up the good work TYT
attractivecousin 1 year ago
This people are mega dicks...how can u not let someone go to a funeral
Charmer4856 1 year ago
@Charmer4856 This report is bogus - didn't happen - irresponsible reporting
ginawilliams99 1 year ago
@ginawilliams99 PS - 57 mines weren't "raided", it was a surprise inspection because of criticism of MSHA for ignoring or not doing enough over SERIOUS violations. Young Turks really needs to do a little research before calling their rants NEWS.
ginawilliams99 1 year ago
Wow what a piece of shit company no time off for funerals.
harr77 1 year ago
Protest the fuck out of the douchebags.
LovelesEntertainment 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics I'm talking about campaign financing toots, fail more.
Mortello 1 year ago
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The Mining Executives, the Corporate CEO's and everyone else who cut corners to increase profit, should all be charged with MASS MURDER and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE and IGNORING CORPORATE LAWS.
This guy MUST be Charged with Murder....
en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Don_Blankenship
halcyon0830 1 year ago 3
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Satanic Shit Don Blackenship (This Jews real name is Don Blankstein) has purchased the police department and also purchased Judges on the West Virginia Supreme Court.
blogs(.)forbes(.)com/energysource/2010/04/06/masseys-long-history-of-coal-mine-violations
home(.)att(.)net/~whitesox/Vcoal_zio_mine(.)htm
The American Neocon/Zionist Corporate-Owned Government made sure that the Mine Safety and Health Administration WAS NEVER ALLOWED TO SHUT DOWN THE MINE.
thiscantbehappening(.)net/?q=node/506
halcyon0830 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 Oh, I see, you hate Jews! Yea, they are a problem, working, producing, getting ahead, all the stuff you cant figure out. Jealous little twerp.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
Insider Traders, Scam Artists, Bank Robbers & Corporate Criminals who are in Jail right now, were also hard working smart people (smart in finding out how to profit from cutting corners, oppression, bending the rules & how to commit crimes and escape the authorities, and how to get rich quick through deceptions, scams and lies, they all were smart & had intelligence TO DO EVIL), they all produced things that helped them, they got ahead, they did all the dishonest scummy stuff & made major money.
halcyon0830 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 If they are in jail, I believe they were criminals. What is your point? Are you waiting for the day when everyone feeds starving people in need? I think you have your hand out, and want the govt to steal from a producer, and put more in it.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 I wonder, after reading your report on EVIL massey enrgy, if you did the math (can you?) to figure out the percent profit Massey made in your numbers, which are correct, as per Yahoo finance. 3.9% profit. 94 mill to Massey, 35 mill to the Feds. $100 income, $4 profit. Big Deal. What a dope, hard to convince anybody to be a commie with a lousy profit like that. Figure the profit on market capitalization, if you can, dope.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
Mean coal.
moronicnotions 1 year ago
@moronicnotions Please turn off your lights, and your computer immediately. Electricity is mainly generated by coal and gas, and gas is mainly a by-product of searching for petroleum. So, you are sending miners to their deaths by your "mean coal" posts, and polluting the Gulf of Mexico while you are at it. Mean CONSUMER!!
luvcheney1 1 year ago
I am currently reading Dante's Inferno and am trying to figure out what Circle Blankenship would best fit in.
BcallingDB 1 year ago 25
@BcallingDB Greed, ideally in the tower of hunger.
rjbonacolta 1 year ago
@BcallingDB Wherever the leader of a corporation that gets the fossil fuel out of the ground that produces electricity, so you can pretend you are so noble, when your life depends on his success, and your bad thoughts for him can be sent by computers running on the power he and his men risk their lives for.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 Corporations are not bad in of themselves. It is how they are run. Blankenship runs his poorly. That is what I don't like. Period.
BcallingDB 1 year ago
@BcallingDB Greed.
TriaMaxwell 1 year ago
I wish hell actually existed at times like this.
ScreamingTc 1 year ago
@ScreamingTc Yea, you dont need the damn electricity his corp provides, so you can run your stinking computer to insult him with.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1
Give me a T!
Give me a R!
Give me a O!
Give me a L!
Give me a L!
ScreamingTc 1 year ago
Mmm it maybe that it costs em less money to fight and delay the lawsuits... than to actually take action.
jeremytay273 1 year ago
Stay classy, Massey.
Dradeeus 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics And you've shown your ass by leaving a shitty comment on an obvious dirty deed. Quit sucking Massey's dick bitch!
epayne6 1 year ago
Karma will one day come back at these sick bastards. You call this trust on corporations? I find it sickening and cruel in so many ways. These supervisor bastards ..... should be fired...or better yet sent to jail. (Yes I say jail so they can go through the hell they made on the workers and people who's loved ones died from doing their work).
Mika20 1 year ago
I'm not a big fan of Unions, but if ever there was a need for a Union it is in the mining industry. Obviously the threat of fines have no effect, perhaps a mass walkout is needed. Then again the Oil companies would love that strategy.
This is what happens when Greed is more important than empathy for your fellow citizens.
Joxman2k 1 year ago
Massey needs to be bought out by someone with ethics and integrity, and then have his money taken away just for the karma of it. I hope he enjoys his nice permanant vacation in hell.
theallseeingoracle 1 year ago
@MaJieMao And then it turns out that ACORN was shut down on trumped up charges. But we only find this out AFTER it's destroyed! What a country.
disrxt 1 year ago
I may need to take a break from TYT, the truth is too depressing.
disrxt 1 year ago
Ha ha.
Let this be a lesson to you kids out there. Stay in school. Get a good education. Don't be like the dumb fucks that have to work in the coal mines. Those miners get fucked over by the ones who got a good education.
GoonyCruLLP 1 year ago
I'm beginning to wonder when we'll get the balls to go after these corporations as employees, communities and individuals. I'd suggest striking coal, but what then? People won't consent to turning off their lights, televisions and computers for 24 or 48 hours. I hate this attitude... where people with money have worked harder, and they're always right, etc...
starla109 1 year ago
@starla109 Opportunity exists in the US, its hard to be poor here, unless you really work at it. But, when people dont study, or take a chance or ten in business, and end up losers, they want the govt to "even it out". My wife came to the US, no English 9 years ago, started a business, grossed 72K 2008, down 20% since. Meanwhile, our inner cities filled with citizens on welfare, generation after generation.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@starla109 Exactly, you killed those miners by turning your computer on, then blame someone else.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 Aren't you a little hypocritical? I think you might enjoy making yourself the object of negative attention. I want to ensure that the people who bring me my electricity are at least taken care of, that they work in safe environments where they don't die, and that some environmental precautions are taken so we have clean drinking water in forty years. 2/3 people on welfare are children, with a large % of elderly. Yes, we should all study. Pick up a book about welfare policy sometime.
starla109 1 year ago
@starla109 Perhaps we ought to consider the Fed govt regulating safety. Os shit, they do. We also should regulate oil drilling, we have a mess! Oh shit, we do. We ought to have been regulating the banking system. Oh shit, we were. Then we should have a central bank to insure stability. Oh shit, we have since 1913. Perhaps we should have a war on poverty! Oh shit, we have for 40+yrs! We should have public schools so our kids are smart! Oh shit, we do, and they are pathetic! Im out of characters
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 To add to your "point"
Perhaps we should have cops to stop criminals.
Oh shit we do.
Maybe we should have firefighters to fight fire.
Oh shit we do!
Maybe we should have a military to make sure enemies can't fly planes into buildings.
Oh shit, we do.
So maybe the problem isnt' that we have regs. Maybe we also need to have enforce them & make sure people don't exploit loop holes.
I guess I could also go into how the "free market" would only make things worse.
But I am out of cha
booley 1 year ago
@booley How compelling an argument you make. In other words, if the Govt does anything, it may as well do everything? Do you think only the Govt could provide police services? Put out fires? Are you serious? When there are really difficult fires, like when Saddam lit all the oil wells on fire in Iraq, who put them out? Of the things you mentioned, only the military is mentioned in the Constitution, Article 1, Sect 8. Fire/ police/ education are State issues, military is a Federal issue, dope.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 " if the Govt does anything, it may as well do everything? "
My what a compelling..no wait no it sin't. It's a strawman and a logical fallacy (excluded middle).
First no one made the argument that the gov should do everything except in your imagination. & a state gov is still a gov (psst-they regulate too)
It's not even the issue being discussed.
Not to mention your example is really dumb. It doesn't apply here & it was the military undermining your claim even if it did.
booley 1 year ago
@booley You are the one supporting regulations, not I. Regulations are Govt power. State Govt IS Govt, but, if it is not listed in Article 1, Section 8, it is NOT Constitutional for the Federal Govt to do it, it is legal for a State, if not specifically prohibited. Regulations are impotent. They do nothing. BP lost over $100 bill in market capitalization at one point, but what would Govt fines be? 1 million? $5 billion so far in the fund? The market hammered them far worse. Civil court is where
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 "You are the one supporting regulations, not I. Regulations are Govt power. "
Yes but that has nothing to do with gov controlling everything. That's stupid. Just because there are traffic lights doesn't mean you live in a police state.
& in case you forgot (& I guess you did) the 20 billion fund from BP was supposed to pay for the damages they caused. The market isn't paying for those damages.
And WTF does any of this have to do with saddam?
booley 1 year ago
@booley Civil law is the LEGAL process to sue for damages to those injured by BP, financially, and physically. Law is dead in the US now. Just take from GM`s bondholders, right? Except that the US is now a 3rd world nation, run by thugs, who extort billions, without allowing BP its day in court, nor GM bondholders. There is no legal authority for these actions. But, men like Hugo Chavez, Obama, Cardenas, Lenin do not need legal authority, do they? When the law is ignored, capital leaves.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 I know what civil law is just like I also know the history of sueing corpss such as exxon and BP & all the myriad ways they have to reduce any awards against to nothing
For instance the 75 million liability cap
There doesnt' need to be a trial as to if BP spilled oil. They admitted it. It was their well. The damage was caused by BP.
Which leads to the utter failing of your ideology because in your worldbetter peopel sicken and die waiting for some magical invisible hand to step in
booley 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 But what's just as bad is how you base it on ignorance.
GM for example. They ASKED for a bail out. They went to washington and begged for it twice. and because they got it they are now actually turning a profit.
If someone bails out a company to keep it from failing, making sure that that investment is likely to be paid back is the least one should do.
& yes it was all perfectly legal.
booley 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 and of course you still have no explained how this would work for Massey energy since anyone who sued them would lose thier job and be destitute, waiting for years for a court award that would probably never come (especially since judges there are elected and Massey has actually bought a few just for this sort of thing)
BTW, oil companies lease the land from venezuela so even Chavez was legal in what he did.
booley 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 Oh shit I almost forgot. BP was not forced to make that 20 billion escrow. They agreed, undoubtidly to boost their horrible PR image and possibly reduce the possibility of CRIMINAL charges and legislation against off shore drilling.
So lets just chalk that up to something else you are ignorant of. But hey, keep up that OUTRAGE!!!! The people poisoning you sure do appreciate your commitment to them.
booley 1 year ago
@booley If you believe that BP "voluntarily" gave the money, YOU are misinformed. Perhaps you also ought to read Securities ans Exchange Commission law, on who gets what in a bankruptcy. Secured bondholders are paid off BEFORE stockholders. In bankruptcy, GM would be sold, and the portions of it with value ( the big car, big truck, SUV divisions) would bring money, and that money goes to secured bondholders FIRST. But, the Admin just gave the corp to itself, Canada, the unions.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@booley The $75 million liability cap is from the Govt. Why? To encourage oil exploration, which keeps prices lower. Now, we have a new goal. Discourage exploration, discourage production, to make gas as expensive as possible. The $20 bill "escrow acct" is about as voluntary as when the butcher pays protection money to the local mafia thugs. I know you, and other ignorant lefties, like thuggery against those who attempt to put gas in your tank at reasonable prices, but thuggery scares capital.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@booley Scaring capital is precisely why Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, starving Marxist nations in Africa, Eastern Europe under the Soviets, were/are economic wrecks, poverty everywhere. Mexico nationalized its oil, capital stayed away. Go ahead, ignore the rul;e of law. "Outsourcing"? Do you like outsourcing? You must! 39% corp tax rates ( while OECD avg is 24%), regulatory costs, environmental, permits, all these do is make capital flee. Now, we ignore law also. Great! Jobs go away, forever.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 of course a few other things you seemed to have left out is that if we are talking about a free market as you guys seem to so often define it. it doesn't work.
Corporations can easily get out of civil court judgements. They have billions of dollars and armies of lawyers. In Exxons case, they simply had to wait until their victims began to die off.
This is a problem that is perfectly within the gov's job to deal with. Otherwise why have a government.
booley 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 Not to mention that in this case market forces and civil courts wont' help anyone working at massey.
Individuals dont' buy coal anymore so you can hardly boycott. Few know where the coal their power companies use comes from and have no say in any case.
& if a worker sues massey then he loses his job with no other jobs to replace it.
OF course I see I'm talking to a free market fundie. You take it on blind faith that somehow the market will make things works out al by itself.
booley 1 year ago
here's an Idea,lets say something happens to one of his buddy's or family members.not telling anyone to do anything to him,just wait till the occasion when he needs to get to a funeral.then barre him from going to that funeral and every funeral for every one of the Miner's he denied!
I do not wish for the death of anyone but if he tries to go to a funeral at all I think he needs to know what he put people through and feel it himself.
MidgetKong 1 year ago
@MidgetKong If you turn off your computer and lights, less coal will be needed, less miners killed you ungrateful fuck.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@wickedman6 You really thing mines shouldn't be regulated? What about child labor? What about asbestos and lung cancer? You think it is appropriate to consider a human a easy replaceable when broken cog in a machine?
harvellt 1 year ago
@harvellt When economies are poor, children work to support the family. Once the economic system improves so that the extra income is not needed, no more child labor. Same for long hours, breaks, OT etc., productivity must be good enough first. Govt fines to Massey are not motivation enough, private enterprise greedy lawyers, and a civil court system will provide the motivation. Just as BP`s oil cleanup, lawsuits willl motivate other explorers. Govt is impotent, and not needed.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 It simply wouldn't work that way consider America. I don't consider us a poor economy, but in poor families you already have kids in there early teens drooping out of high school to help generate income for their families. They don't get an education and cant make enough to support their children later in life. The cycle repeats. The idea is minimum wage, and child labor laws should work in conjunction to make sure parents make enough to support and educate children.
harvellt 1 year ago
If the minimum wage is greater than the added value produced by the laborer, the job is illegal. Making jobs illegal is not good.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
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harvellt I'm not sure what law your talking about, but if you run a company where a worker cannot add $10(much higher than minimum wage) worth of value to your products in an hour then the company needs some serous re-design. People who run businesses poorly can not keep blaming everything in the world but them selves
harvellt 1 year ago
@harvellt Yes, if a business cant afford to pay $10 hr, well that poor inner city kid ought to not get any work experience. Let him learn to go to the welfare office and beg, like his mamma.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
You know China shoots mine owners who do this, then they bill them for the bullets.
rjbonacolta 1 year ago 25
@rjbonacolta HAHA! I read that they charge the family's of people sentence to death the cost of the bullet !
YoungSteve17 1 year ago
@rjbonacolta - Maybe that's one lesson we could learn from China.....
A86 1 year ago
@rjbonacolta They have only done this since they flushed Socialism down the toilet and allowed their people to be exploited and turned into the world's biggest sweat shop.
SupremePenguinTone 1 year ago
@SupremePenguinTone Yes, and they flock from the countryside by the millions, into the cities for the pleasure of being exploited! Some of these Chinese have all the nerve too, they even want cars! They have no right to live well! Imagine, living better with sweatshops, just as the Americans did! No unions in Mao`s time! And now, conditions getting better! Damn Chinamen, wanting a good life. Fuck!
luvcheney1 1 year ago
Even if you're the dead guy?
RadarKat73080 1 year ago
In Canada we had a very similar experience in coal mining called the West-ray tragedy that brought about legislation to find managers and senior executives at mining sites CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT and can be put in jail. I hope my fellow miners across the border get the same results so that no more miners have to die in vein.
Also, I would not work in a mine without the protection of a union. Safety is number one for workers but falls behind profits and public relations for CEO's
Xwowplaya 1 year ago 4
@Xwowplaya No 1st amendment either, just name it "hate speech", eh, Canuck? You betcha! No damn investments in branded drugs either for you, just buy what someone else develops.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1 You are a completely ignorant troll. I give an excellent example of how corporate greed killed 26 people and the best you can do is insult my country and the lives of those 26 miners with hollow, biased neo con dribble? It looks as though the realm of neo cons has gone beyond world view and delved into the realm of religious cult. You are the type of American the world hates and eventually will become the harbinger of its downfall through uneducated policies.
Xwowplaya 1 year ago 8
@Xwowplaya It appears Canadian mines kill too, as is normal. Springhill Bump, 74 dead 1958, Giant mine 1992 ( angry union member blew up comrades, Westray disaster, 1992 26 dead and Sullivan mine 2006. 2 minutes on google. You are an arrogant, motherfucker who thinks you slimy bastards are so holy. I see, every year, you fucking Canadians camping here in the SW United States, getting your retired Canadians knees, hips replaced in the Palm Springs area, your govt doesnt care.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
Corporations will always treat their employees as slaves... and Cenk has mentioned and explained this many MANY times... that... this country is controlled and owned by CORPORATIONS...
it is time to boot out all the fucking republicans and democrats who take money from corporations... and it is time to vote for INDEPENDENTS who do not take money from corporations....
VOTE FOR INDEPENDENTS
FUCK REUBLICANS
FUCK DEMOCRATS
FUCK OBAMA
Pher0cious 1 year ago 3
@Pher0cious
My idea?
FUCK EVERYTHING
LamentOfInnocence1 1 year ago
@Pher0cious Damn corporations, all the nerve! Making things people want and need, and employing them too. Who needs stuff! Who needs a job. We dont. Now, I`m going to generate my own electricity with grass clippings, not coal.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics Your confusing the political term "anarchy" with chaos. Not having laws on individual freedom does not mean not having laws on political structures.
GnosticAtheist 1 year ago
That is why I am self employed.
dapdaddy10 1 year ago
@dapdaddy10 Bet your boss is stupid too.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
Pathetic...utterly unapologeticly pathetic.....FUCK YOU MASSEY ENERGY!!!!!
tonymel2005 1 year ago
@tonymel2005 "As tonymel2005 clicks on "post", sending electrons, generated by burning Massey Coal, into the internet". Damn, how do you spell "hypocrite?"
luvcheney1 1 year ago
So easy to help persuade the CEO to think twice, real easy. Get creative, folks! Deception and perception, wonderful tools to accomplish tasks.
str8shootr7 1 year ago
Unions for minors and other dangerous jobs are fine, but for most things its just stupid and bad for the economy
aarondavid826 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics Also, I "sympathize" with no-one outside of my family and friends. The word "sympathize has to deal with emotion, and I certainly have no emotion of happieness towards any government, organization or corporation.
GnosticAtheist 1 year ago
@GnosticAtheist Well, I for one, sympathize with those miners.
It's horrible to see 19th century capitalism return to America.
MarquisdeBarrabas 1 year ago
@MarquisdeBarrabas instead we are seeing 20th century fascism come to America
anryth 1 year ago
@MarquisdeBarrabas Yes, that is true, I am able to sympathize with people in distress.
GnosticAtheist 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics
Interesting conclussion since I am an anarchist. But yes, if humans are to have any government or capitalism, then there must be check and balances just like democracy itself. Everyone understand that you are not anti-fotball because you want regulation on the field, same goes with capitalism, government or any other function. It must be constantly regulated by a minimum of 2 other functions.
That is not "communism", but if you want to destroy the term, enjoy.
GnosticAtheist 1 year ago
I for once am glad this happens, let the Redneck bosses kill other Recneck, I wish he kill them all.
Where are The West Virginia Coal Miners rednecks who unionized to fight the abuses in the mine in 1920?
Why dont they place the CEO in a mine shaft and blow up all the entrance so that he die taking a taste of what coal mine is.
Let us see how FOX News will make this a Democrat conspiracy again mine owners. Let them all die.
JerezJulio 1 year ago
Keep your job, or keep your life.
l0gically 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics Check out the part where they say one of the violations was "having an emergency air vent blowing air in the wrong direction.
One was an emergency air vent blowing air in the wrong direction and according to a few different papers miners went to their congressman saying the mines were deathtraps.
dffykvn 1 year ago
Don Blankenship can eat shit. Get fucked up the ass with AIDS.
PaulG85 1 year ago
Massey, pure evil.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
Am from west virginia and half what cenk said is true but you must understand without the mines people out there are in ghost towns and they just get up and move. Its trap that must people get into and can't get out if they wanted to.
FireScorpion343 1 year ago
Nationalize these businesses Obama. Regulations are not now and apparently will not ever be honored. In addition to putting safe practices back in place you will also gain direct access to the coal industry business future direction.
JWY 1 year ago 11
@JWY That would be nice but we cant even hold on to net neutrality with out people loading there guns in preparation for the government Internet take over.
harvellt 1 year ago
wtf?!
Riverwidow64 1 year ago
This country is becoming a disgusting joke.
rinka777778 1 year ago 4
@rinka777778 Sure, with a bunch of whiny Libs who hate anybody trying to do anything constructive.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1
Quoth the IDIOT
rinka777778 1 year ago
@rinka777778 As you send a post with coal produced elecrtricity...........
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1
Yeah....It's a shame we didn't switch over to alternative sources 30 years ago. Who has been in the way of this change? Oh, right, pathetic intellectually bankrupt repubs.
Nice try Dickhole.
rinka777778 1 year ago
@rinka777778 Sure, we could switch over if we wanted to live at a lower standard of living. The Fact that the Fed Goct subsidizes wind, solar, bio- fuel etc proves the point. These imaginary solutions are not viable yet.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
@luvcheney1
Great, so lets continue what we are doing, not regulate it, and see what happens. My guess is more of of this mess. Great Plan
rinka777778 1 year ago
So speaking of the PR machine I saw a commercial come on with a women with a soothing voice talking about how the miners that died are courageos, sons, fathers, and most of all heroes.
Before it even came up at the bottom of the screen, at the end, really small i knew it was a PR campaign for masey. The got the PR guys working tripple time and the commercial makes me sick. Not for the message but for why its on the air.
The artificial sympathy won't make us forget about you Mr. Blankenship.
lordtalon69 1 year ago
I know these mine workers need to make a living, but seriously, WALK THE FUCK OUT!!! When there is no one left there to mine their coal, and provide the fuel for the states power needs, and Massey starts losing millions, then someone might start to listen.
WALK OUT NOW!!! ALL OF YOU!! If you don't, then you are just as greedy as the CEO's, putting your money needs over your human needs.
FUCK BIG BUSINESS!
socialgarbage2 1 year ago 3
@socialgarbage2
I live in ashland, KY which is 10 miles from huntington, wv. So I've seen a lot of coverage. Your statements are a bit unfair. Most of these people live in very small rural towns where there are NO good jobs. They are not going to risk losing their job to do this. They can't chance it. Most of them do this work so there sons/daughters don't have too. They save for college funds/getting there family out of there. Any coal miner asked will say they don't want there sons to mine.
lordtalon69 1 year ago
@lordtalon69 Statements are not only unfair - they're completely wrong. The mining industry is highly regulated and inspected. This video looks like something treehuggers put together. The same huggers who are trying to shut down the industry that supplies over half of the electricity in the US.
Mining companies operate under legal permits and with oversight by various agencies. This report is totally ridiculous and the reporter obviously knows nothing about mining.
ginawilliams99 1 year ago
@socialgarbage2 I totally agree with you, but those miners have families to feed, so I understand why they would keep working knowing that they were getting f*cked by Massey.
MarquisdeBarrabas 1 year ago
@socialgarbage2 Yea! who needs electricity! Oh shit, YOU do, so you can bash the folks who risk their reputations, and lives to get it for you, you goddamn loser.
luvcheney1 1 year ago
They should be fined into bankruptcy.
tdurran 1 year ago
TO FAMILIES WHO LOST LOVED ONES
Massey Energy extends its deepest condolences to the families who lost loved ones at Upper Big Branch.
Massey continues to focus at this time on attending to the families to ensure they have the support they need as we continue to work diligently with state and federal authorities to try to determine the cause of this tragic explosion as quickly as possible.
... from their homepage
seriously... you're trying to find out
f. you guys
and the whole PR Machinery
DeinMasta 1 year ago
It is cheaper to pay for the lawyers to fight the fines and to correct the safety violations. Make them shut down the mines until the violations are fixed. However, part of the problem is the miners who will fight to keep the mines open because they would not be able to afford to not work while they are fixing things....
IcyKitty 1 year ago
o-O Holy shit. Seriously?
Ardenwolfe 1 year ago
I'm reminded of the movie Zoolander where Ben Stiller works for one day, with his dad, in the coal mines. After work he is coughing like a girl complaining "I think I have the black lung pops."
Benzenering1004 1 year ago
assassinations are in order
1Nbillion817 1 year ago 2
@1Nbillion817
i wholehartedly agree.
FaithNoMore1977 1 year ago
@1Nbillion817 i thought the same thing.
803brando 1 year ago
Well, certainly when it comes to mine safety, communist and repressive China is on par with the capitalist and free U S of A.
From where I sit, they both stink.
forgetititititit 1 year ago
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The only reason liberals care about this mine story is because they hate coal. All of those environmental wackos with their hybrids and solar panels really need to calm the fuck down. Consumers will always pick cheapest energy, no matter how much you gonna bitch about it.
saper321 1 year ago
@saper321 facepalm.
melojordans23 1 year ago
Yes, that's what evil is, Cenk.
jfesmire 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics You're right...if we enforced existing regulation and forced him to fix things or shut his mines down then all of the accidents over the past decade that his refusal to keep up to safety standards caused would not have happened.
dffykvn 1 year ago
Capitalism was only "moral" in the 50's-90's when it was people in the 3rd world who were being fucked over....
People only started seeing it's flaws when ceos started to treat american lives as if they were tissue paper.
Be honest...if it was a mine in africa, indonesia, or central america owned by massey and a thousand people died because safety violations were ignored would it be covered?
Would any of us care?
Of course not.
dffykvn 1 year ago 3
@dffykvn
Fair regulation. Import tariffs. Problem solved.
Phoboskomboa 1 year ago 2
@Blockygraphics, Yeah, you stuff them in a casket. And then you begin sifting through the charred and useless remnants of the coal mine you just exploded. And then you spend millions of dollars in legal fees paying off the family members of the deceased workers you just killed; workers you will spend millions paying for even though they are no longer producing anything. And then you watch as your company name is righteously dragged through the mud for murdering it's own employees.
wtfdoihavetodohere 1 year ago
"We need regulators and enforcers"? I understand the concept but, in practical terms, why fix something if you can simply pay a fine that is enormously less than the fix. Greed and ego...how in the world can THAT be regulated?
obadhai03 1 year ago
The mines shouldn't even be open, it's disgusting more isn't being done about it.
itchykami 1 year ago
Mr. Burns doesnt own a nuclear power plant... he owns a mining company...
bryanfunk 1 year ago
These miners seriously need to go on strike!
Joyness333 1 year ago
@Joyness333 They probably would, but these places are old school. The mines are the only places to work, unless you want to leave, which is a gamble.
Slntpsych 1 year ago
Even The Joker isn't this heartless. Some jokes aren't funny.
A86 1 year ago
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A86 1 year ago
There's a special place in Hell for union-busters and people who sacrifice employees' lives for extra profit.
A86 1 year ago 42
@A86 Amen
paronfisk 1 year ago
@A86
i also truly believe that and it gives me a lot of comfort in this world to know that no sin goes unpunished, in this life or the next
jumar1281 1 year ago
Absolutely despicable.
byteXI 1 year ago
strikes are been call for
arga400 1 year ago
Don Blankenship DRINK MY PISS!
bdobbsthepipe 1 year ago