Ask TWIL: Best Linux Distribution and What's Your Favorite Distro?

[flyfirstmars]

great answer.. though I no more use linux on my main pc, I prefer windows for autodesk and adobe software.. 4 years on linux, more than 10-15 distros, :D I even tried freebsd 9, which really sucks at hardware and software support..however, my netbook still rocks with arch linux...cheers linux users!))

[ChildOL]

After much deliberation and comparisons and experiences I have chosen "Linux Mint Debian Edition Xfce" as my choice Linux distro

[vasakq]

Nice presentation. For those who look for the very stable OS with a bunch of freely available software, I would suggest Debian (I guess most linux users find it boring, but it works perfectly). I have Arch linux installed too on my old machine and I am quite happy with it. I suggest installing Arch to those who would like to learn more about linux. Archwiki is the place to look if you have any problem whatsoever concerning any aspect of GNU/linux OS no matter which distro you run.

[TheSim0n1989]

great guy... i will monitor you :).. yeah arch linux ftw. atm im running ubuntu with gnome 3 and im very comfotable with it

[rayyanputra]

Arch Linux ftw!

[Warfather911]

i cant hear shit

[michaelhpedersen]

openSuse rocks, I love it. I'll take it over any OS there is.

[smiley33zz]

change directories, and root stuff.... it gets very confusing...... ( to think i kinda had a grip on things ) lol I just got frustrated with the whole windows limitations, and restraints... I chose to try other venues.......  As enthusiastic as I was ... i am becoming more and more discouraged in this approach.. do to the complexeties.. as I mentioned in my request !! Thanx again.... and I look forward to possibly seeing you post something som

[smiley33zz]

First off, I would like to thank you for your video and extensive info.I would really like to see a video on how to install an application, or utility on ubuntu, or linux, that would lessen the biggest margin their is between windows and Mac vs. open source Operating systems. I can do the repository thing, but when it comes to the moving files , and installing , and running them via the terminal and all of the SU- sudo,

[wooka64]

@smiley33zz sudo apt-get install nameofprogram. in Unbutu its really that simple i terminal. in my Debian it is apt-get install nameofprogram. in Ubuntu and Debian their is software centers that you can download software from their servers I guess. if you get it off the internet, you are trying to compile the software from source. To compile software from source you need all the development tools to make the software work. I hope this helps.

[prajullas]

First off your presentation is brilliant and up to the point. Nice diction too. Well in my experience the best Distro is (I was a Distro hopper) Pinguy OS Well tweaked and in your words well polished. Anyone may try that too. Thanks for your efforts.

[medoaaa21]

thanks ma

u r a lot of help

[TheWickedPanda]

What camera are you using?

[MrGizmo757]

I have tried a bunch of Distros. They all suck.  the Distro that works the Best on My hardware has very small repos and no rpm or deb packager as well which makes it suck. Mandriva 2011 is My favorite but it fails to work properly on My hardware. freezes up every 5 mins. just like ubuntu and Kubuntu both do. so yeah in one form or another they all suck. Windows sucks, Linux sucks, OS X sucks. they all suck. some just suck less then others.

[FreedomToPeople]

As usual, your video and presentations are very informative and objective. One recommendations I would like to make.

When changing scenes, Please use fade-out feature, instead of the sharp change which at time can be annoying.

[Metal404Head]

CrunchBang.

Best I've tried.

Easy install.

All the software i use the most installed by default.

Looks great.

10/10

[thisweekinlinux]

@tombl0ck I'm a website designer for the state of Kentucky. That computer behind me is in my basement, and because I have a wife and a 2-year-old son, finding time to go downstairs for more than 2-3 minutes is difficult.

[thisweekinlinux]

@tombl0ck I use Kdenlive to edit my videos within Arch Linux.

[Essa698]

I wish I had Arch Linux, it is the most customization. I have Mint, it's easy to install and very fast. IDK how to Dual Boot Arch, the documentation and disk partitions confused me.

[nimitzhunter]

Unity drove me away from ubuntu. Thank to that I finally installed Arch.

[russellwarner1]

Gnome is pronounced (n) (oh) (m) think lawn gnome

[meeputube]

Unity is that bs on Ubuntu 11.04 right?

[jeroeniskoning]

Ima try Arch.

[memoivoila]

I think you are awesome.

[osmodivs]

UBUNTU.

for the win.

[H4x0r18]

I love Linux Mint and Arch Linux. Linux Mint offers everything I need to get started. Arch Linux has the cutting edge of software downloads and is completely customized. The AUR community is incredible.

[mintDesktop]

Problem of ArchLinux is a small user base, if care about compatibility or you rely on that most apps and drivers will work flawlessly, it's not a good choice.

[EricPCProductions]

Is Arch Linux good if you plan on using it for programming?

[haritonovsb]

@EricPCProductions Archlinux is good for all purposes. It's like other linux distros, you get everything you want. But unlike others, Arch gives you a possibility of using STABLE system made of bleeding-edge fresh versions of software. This is really cool. And of course, you'll get everything you need: lots of IDEs, gcc, g++, python2/3, mono, perl, /etc... And as if it is a meta-distro it can become whatever you like: gaming machine, web-server, designer's instrument or developer's station..

[91jmda]

@haritonovsb I look forward in trying Arch again cause before i had issues with the wl driver plus our ISP puts me on a 40 GB download cap every month, it suuux

[haritonovsb]

@91jmda I wish you luck my friend!

[maw88ify]

What is the name of the pro-video editor that was coming to Linux, and is it out yet? You were talking about it once , and I never heard any other news about it .

[thisweekinlinux]

@maw88ify Lightworks. it's in public beta right now, but only for Windows. If I remember correctly, the Linux version is supposed to come out this Christmas.

Novacut is in development as well. They just made their kickstarter campaign goal, raising $25,000 in a month, so hopefully we'll see something out of that before too long.

Of course I'm still decently happy with Kdenlive, myself. 0.8 has been a great release.

[maw88ify]

@thisweekinlinux Thanks I hope to see it on Linux soon. On another note have you tested " Adobe Edge " yet ? Have you heard of any good pro 2D animation software coming to Linux ? Right now I use " Pencil 0.4.4b " , but it's no were as good as Toonboom, Anime Studio 8 , or Flash. Sure the will run in Wine , but I really really want to see a native pro 2D animation software on Linux.

[thisweekinlinux]

@maw88ify I don't really do anything in terms of animation, but a quick google search brought up Synfig and Ktoon. Have you looked at those?

[maw88ify]

@thisweekinlinux Yes I have and sad to say but Synfig overly complicated / not fun to use, and Ktoon is buggy. Pencil is the most enjoyable to use but lack any tools. If they took ideas from all three programs and put them together they would have a program that would be as good a "Macromedia Flash 2004" with out the ability to write code . However Blender 3D 2.58a is coming a long nicely yet NO Linux programs are make any effort make a good 2D animation software .

[maw88ify]

@thisweekinlinux Many people respect you so if you could mention in a video about 2D animation software on Linux, and how it would be nice to see more improvement than that may help push thing along. If you refer to it briefly in a video it may help make programmers more aware . Thank you .

[haritonovsb]

Hehey!! You absolutely have to try out XFCE4. Since gnome updated to version 3, I use XFCE on my archlinux desktop and two laptops. It works perfectly: fast, stable, old-fashion desktop experience.. What else is to be wanted from a desktop environment? Try it. I'm sure you'll like it.

[thisweekinlinux]

@haritonovsb I actually started testing out XFCE 4.8 on my Arch desktop last night. very interesting. with a bit more customization, I can see myself being decently happy with it.

[marky61198]

@thisweekinlinux I have been using ubuntu for about four months and i am pretty good with it. Do you think I would be ready to install arch?

[helixir2]

openSuSE - Forever.

[telemetry9]

Kubuntu 11.04 - 64 bit. Once you use it - you'll never go back to beige and grey ubuntu.

[TeruMikami2345]

@telemetry9 i tried kubuntu, it hated me

[gabakusa]

is there something like deepfreez for linux? it freeze windows OS so it let you do whatever you want but once you restart the pc it will be the same way it was before without any change.

[Jedipottsy]

Has to be Archlinux, hands down the best distro

[aser36]

I'm choosing Ubuntu with unity and there'll be many people'll disagree with me and I don't care..

[91jmda]

@aser36 If you like Ubuntu, just use it, Linux is about freedom and choice =D plus my choice is to install LMDE and expirience my first breakeges (few btw) but a visit to ur Forums/Bug Tracker/etc will help me out n__n

[varexnet32]

again, how you did make the intro, is it blender...

[thisweekinlinux]

@varexnet32 I didn't make it. A viewer named saymoo did, and he told me he used blender.

[sidhartRON]

why are all the video suggestions twighlight videos?

[stmpoodle]

good points. thanks.

[daeamarth]

Do you enable SELinux on your Arch Desktop?

What is your experience with hardware/driver support in Arch? On par with others or worse or better?

[thisweekinlinux]

@daeamarth I do not, especially now that AppArmor is in the kernel by default.

The biggest problem I had with hardware/drivers in Arch was trying to install the proprietary ATI drivers for my old video card. The open source ones worked fine, but performance wasn't great.

On my existing system, with Nvidia, things work just as well (if not better) than other distros. very up-to-date drivers (especially nvidia)

[Darkteammadfiz]

I think the best distro is Gentoo for all the optimizations. It can rock on REALLY fast computers. :)

[devplan44]

I saw on your website that you haven't reviewed xpud yet.

I am using xpud as part of my "swiss knife" utils as it loads extremely fast off my USB stick and gives my a browser and some other utils.

It used a "plate" ubuntu derivative kernel as far I know.

Could you have peek into this and give your comments and on this type of distro?

[thisweekinlinux]

@devplan44 interesting. I'll have to take a look at it. thanks.

[dualstrenght]

Arch Linux FTW

[TheGeo913]

DEBIAN!

[dude0that0kicks0ass]

I like Linux Mint GNOME

[JeremyPassarelli]

Why is KDE really buggy in Arch Linux?

[Gawernator]

Is that a Mac keyboard I see in the background?

[thisweekinlinux]

@Gawernator yup

[8VMikeMaxtD]

@thisweekinlinux OMG! Are you in the process of defecting?

[ColombianSoldier1003]

make a google+ account!! if you need an invitation I'm your man :D



[mrballscratch]

ok nice info...

well... i'm from the other site of the world so plz try to awnser...

i heve a desktop pc... intel i5 , ATI rad. HD5470

my goal is to play simple games sutch as : saints row 2 , crysis 2...

but i have been swapping distro's for over a year ... first ubuntu then windows, then fedora....

plz i dont know what to do windows for gaming

or linux for gaming..... i like Oad a lot but i cant play all me games on linux distro ubuntu..... what should i do

[GeoNeilUK]

@mrballscratch Well, if you're trying to run Windows games on your PC then really your best bet is to use Windows. Wine, Cedega and ReactOS can't really compete to actual, proper Windows when it comes to running Windows games.

[Cuzit69]

@mrballscratch Modern games like Saints Row 2 and Crysis 2 are hardly "simple games." Check the WineHQ and see if those games are even compatible with wine, and search Google for ways to get them running. You're going to have trouble with an ATI card, anyway. It's best to dual-boot and use Windows for games and Linux for everything else. I Play games on Linux as much as possible but I still have a backup Windows partition for games that just don't seem to work in Wine.

[artlessbene]

@mrballscratch if i were you, i'd use a dualboot solution (windows and your favourite linux-distro).

[Benc1213]

@mrballscratch Dual boot windows and your favorite linux distro. Windows for gaming. LInux distro for everything else.

[MRxSNIPES2]

@Benc1213 not 100% true a lot of game work like GTA sa gta 4 L4d cod waw fallout 3 Hl2 Gmod and more

I use Crossover 9 for my game and run 80% faster than on windows and only 2% will run with out crashing on windows.

[LEON951]

@mrballscratch I use "PlayonLinux" its sort of like Wine, but with more mirrors and whistle. That it what I use to play Black ops on my Ubuntu Laptop.

[joshp9690]

My fave distro is Ubuntu, without a doubt. Simplicity FTW

[cgtopher]

In your opinion, what is a good web development software for linux?

[thisweekinlinux]

@cgtopher if I do any sort of web dev on Linux, I just use a text editor. However, I've heard that Bluefish and Geany are good.

[r0dnify]

I like the new intro animation but the music seems way too dramatic.

[ElshamyWalid]

I Hate OpenSuse , Fedora Rocks!!

[jackclark1981]

There is alot of people that have been asking about a fresh arch install on a laptop. that would be something Id like to see. How did google os do?

[Narc073]

hooray for Arch

[jackclark1981]

before ubuntu added plymouth, ide say ubutu, but now they do not care what there base'e opinion is.

[karlneumann303]

What is your opinion on running arch with just a window manager (openbox) and building their own desktop environment from there.

[wcbgn]

Hehe 1004 views.. Lucid lynx ^^ aint I clever

[pavao123]

The difference between OpenSUSE and Windows is the price. Are you sure suse is linux?????

[experimental0000]

I agree: the best OS/distro s the one that meets your needs and works best for you, regardless of what it is. I've found Mac, Windows, and Linux all work extremely well for me

[slavchevpeter]

Hey, Jordan, what do you find most irritating in Ubuntu and why?

[Iceman1234aa]

TWIL, do you like ponies?

[Svenstar0]

@Iceman1234aa This needs to be answered.

[thisweekinlinux]

@Iceman1234aa I've seen ponies, and the animation style appealed to me, but the storyline did not.

[ryebread761]

I really want to try Arch in a VM on my Mac but I tried both processor isos but both gave me a blank screen when I tried to boot. :( How can I fix this.

[HogRider357]

My favorites: Netrunner 3.2 - currently on a 2 year old laptop and Vector Linux 6 currently installed on an older desktop as it seemed to be the fastest. Never had any luck getting Arch Linux to work on either one.

[DougWardBlammo]

Pass the salt. SalineOS is the answer.

[AciliusOperator]

Anybody looking for a lightweight distro should look at tinycore linux. Made by the some of the same people who made DSL(damn small linux) which know seems to be dead.

[jen4r0]

Mine is Fedora :) because works very fast with my (OLD) hardware

[itachisxeyes]

My favorite distro is Gentoo. Once you get used to the USE flags you can really build the perfect desktop. And with my quad core Phenom a source based distro doesn't take that long to build, XP

[siabost9deas]

@thisweekinlinux How long since you tried KDE? I'm a long-time Gnome user who stuck with KDE for a while a couple of years & reverted to Gnome but am now on Kubuntu (KDE4.6) on my main desktop. It has improved a lot - also packs Nepomuk "The Social Semantic Desktop" which I discovered lurking on the KDE desktop only last night. Something else to investigate! Kubuntu is a solid & pleasing experience, also on a netbook.

[mikethedj4]

You know of any good Linux tablet computers? (Not Android based)

[qbasicer]

How do you feel about KDE4? Do you prefer bleeding edge or something more tested (forgive me, not sure how arch works, I use Gentoo and run amd64 vs ~amd64 (tested vs 'untested'))

[commodore256]

Do you think Ubuntu is suppose to be "Linux for Human beings"? For a Distro synonymous in "easy to use distros", it's very buggy.

I have a crazy theory why it's so buggy. Since it's targeted at non-linux users, there's a lot more of them than Linux users and they're used as beta testers for new packages and sending in bug reports.

If they actually used the Rock Solid Debian Patches in an easy to use package, we wouldn't get as many bug reports and wouldn't get patched.

[itachisxeyes]

@commodore256 If it isn't labeled as a "Long Term Support" release then it is in fact a polished beta release.

[commodore256]

@itachisxeyes Even the LTS is a beta product. I remember 10.04 was very buggy, but 10.04.1 was good.

[perfectgyroscope]

@commodore256 In what way is it buggy?

[commodore256]

@perfectgyroscope Compiz loved randomly shutting off and my window boarders loved disappearing.

[Mattmeful]

Did you ever finish the SSH tutorial?

[plutgamer]

why is rick astley in the other videos box???

[punkerbruin]

Why does linux still havent a great gaming API ? (like Direct X or the windows version of opengl)

[MrDerekTube]

@punkerbruin

linux has had opengl forever.

[punkerbruin]

@MrDerekTube yeah but it sucks like hell in linux

[MrDerekTube]

@punkerbruin

Well most native linux games i've played run much better and faster in linux then windows so I'm not sure what u mean.Allot of games run better under wine then windows even.

[punkerbruin]

@MrDerekTube I have a Nvidia GTX460 and i have installed the latest driver. But if i play CSS under wine i get on 800x600 +- 15 FPS and if i play a linux game i get +- 25 FPS and in windows every game gets 60+ FPS so i thought that openGL sucks

[iwanteveryting]

You could try the Nouveau driver for Gnome Shell, if you haven't already. I have geforce 9600gt card and it worked flawlessly with GS (Fedora). Oh and do try XFCE 4.8, best desktop environment (for me)

[BBgamerUK]

Nice idea! Why not use the 'Google Moderator' block on your Youtube page? Perfect for something like 'Ask TWIL.

[thisweekinlinux]

@BBgamerUK not a bad idea. Of course it doesn't email me, and doesn't give me the option to delete responses, so perhaps not.

[BBgamerUK]

@thisweekinlinux If you want to host it on your own web hosting, I've just googled and found a free open-source web script called 'Question2Answer'. Looks very nice.

[experimental0000]

@thisweekinlinux never seems to work for me, even with blockers disabled, I click to vote or add to those and it kicks me back to the google/youtube login area every time, so not a fan of it for that reason.

[asperger1981]

what do you think of gobolinux

[thisweekinlinux]

@asperger1981 I think we talked about this. It looks like a dead project. last release was in 2008.

[MLTatDYOUTOBE]

what do you thinking about BackTrack linux ?

[thisweekinlinux]

@MLTatDYOUTOBE I think I don't particularly have a use for it. :P I don't really do penetration testing or anything.

[MLTatDYOUTOBE]

@thisweekinlinux thanks for the quick response. I will probably test Arch once

ps your channel one of my favorite on youtube ;) and sorry for my englisch I'm from Germany

[thegroove2000]

Pardus 2011.1 KDE.

[bellicjr]

Hi Jordan

First sorry if my English is a bit bad.

In Debian based Distros (Debian, Ubuntu, Mint...), Arch Linux, openSUSE and Gentoo: my keyboard (It's a laptop) is terrible slow, even in Terminal mode.

In distros like Fedora or Mandriva, the keyboard is fine.

What can It be ? I really want to use Arch Linux or Debian, but I can't afford a new PC.

Thanks.

[JanBirsa]

Im using XFCE now, its really simple and its nice cuz u can mod everything.

[Le0ne9]

Ubuntu, from 2006.

[DrG241]

Fedora and Mint ftw! :D

[winfr34k]

Hey TWIL, could you please tell me what camera you have and you have setup Arch (I've got a basic installation done and read the wiki)?

Have a nice day,

winfreak

[thisweekinlinux]

@winfr34k I have the Canon T2i camera.

[SixFingeredAmish]

Ubuntu has amazing hardware support

[Laoch111]

Hi Jordan. You should do more 'Ask TWIL' videos.

[ElderSnake90]

Arch for me is like the ultimate distro, I'd have to say... But Ubuntu was a great starting point for me in the world of Linux. That's the beauty of Linux, it can be as simple and easy or as in depth, customizable, or automated etc as you like. There's something for everyone.

[clarkkov]

You do realize that "TWIL" is a TWIT.tv trademark, right? "This week in law" with Leo Laporte. This may be the reason Google terminated your partnership.

[thisweekinlinux]

@clarkkov Haven't seen anything on Leo's site that mentions "TWIL" is trademarked... TWiT is.

[clarkkov]

@thisweekinlinux I'm not taking sides, but this may be interpreted as misleading the audience. Just an idea...

[thisweekinlinux]

@clarkkov doesn't really matter at this point...

[perfectgyroscope]

@clarkkov Sounds more like TWAT.tv to me.

[SIRMDMonster]

For me it'd have to be a toss up between arch, and Ubuntu. I used Ubuntu for the longest time, then moved over to arch with enlightment desktop, and fell in love with it, but then I got a new mobo, and arch wouldn't "plug and play" like Ubuntu alvays did.

[s3eds]

sabayon and gnome for me as favorite distro

[timt4stic]

Arch is great... easy to configure ... one boot config file /etc/rc.conf ... very nice distro. Rolling updates etc...

[pat20105]

my favourite linux is Ubuntu.

[fantasyleague0629]

yeah! Arch LInux rocks

[deathbysushi]

I tried ArchLinux and it was great until about a month into it when I needed to update my NVIDIA drivers. When doing a pacman -Syu, I somehow got into a circular dependencies loop and could no longer get pacman to update. Tried removed the conflicting packages but removing caused circular dependencies too. Oh well, live and learn, maybe I'll give it another shot someday. I'll stick to Ubuntu 11.04 classic for now!

[Deliciousfruit233]

@deathbysushi Try refreshing your mirrors, and updating again.

[woodenotaku]

ArchLinux for newer desktops. Gentoo if you have time (and don't want libcups or other useless things...). Debian for older hardware (debian 6 still has nvidia-96xx unlike arch). DSL, Puppy or Knoppix for testing hardware. And for newbies LinuxFromScratch (great way to learn how to rtfm). Ubuntu is no good because if something doesn't have a gui its gonna be very hard to do (too easy to use or no use at all.). Also lots of others i can't fit here.

[thedarkhenrik]

I personally use either Debian stable or Slackware Linux, with WindowMaker managing the desktop.. last time I tried Ubuntu, I had a severe crash for no reason, actually the first non-hardware related crash I have seen on linux, and I used kernel 2.2.16 based systems back in 1998 which were pretty quirky, but they didnt die for no good reason like Ubuntu did.. debian on the same machine, even windows xp on the same machine, work flawlessly and are stable 24/7

[Mkbu]

ArchLinux is such an amazing distro. As you said, you just get what you really need, nothing more. But I was a little disappointed for the end of Gnome 2.x support. I was enjoying Arch, I downloaded all your tutorials about, was installing and formatting on my VM, I read the Arch Wiki, I've tried to learn; but they didnt support anymore the main package to me: Gnome 2.32.1. Seriously, I don't like that much Gnome 3.0, it is too new, mature.

I love your videos, thanks for stay with us at YouTube.

[NalaNosivad]

Oddly enough, I'm not having any issues with the Nvidia drivers and Gnome 3, also on Arch. I do, however, have terrible tearing with it when I'm using dual monitors.

[linhvng]

I would like to know which software you use to make video (edit, effect, record, etc) and what are some alternate versions for Adobe Premiere Pro in linux?

[draoi99]

My setup is Ubuntu minimal install with my own mix of Gnome desktop apps plus the latest kernel compiled (3.0).

[jmmma53]

I've been using arch for several months now, and I've been loving it since I first used it

[kawreaVII]

I have been using Arch-Linux too, and I can't stand the gnome 3 interface, I was wondering what sort of desktop environments you suggest instead of gnome, I'm back to using debian just from gnome -.-

[RandySilverWolf]

YESSS ARCH LINUX+GNOME FTW!!!!!!!!!!

[zikalify]

Ubuntu. Flawless OS tbh.

[MrGizmo757]

i prefer Pardus Linux. Ubuntu has always Given Me problem with hardware support. i have always had issues with Ubuntu on My hardware. on all three of My systems. Pardus not the first issue Yet. :-)

[Linux4UnMe]

I'm using gnome 3 with Nouveau Jordan, works quite well for me on a 7800gtx

[Linux4UnMe]

Twil how does AbioGenesis happen? :D

[thejoesteiger]

What are some of your favorite Android apps?

[OniLinkPlus]

Also, fyi, there is a slight audio desync that's making it REALLY frustrating to watch. I'm hearing your words before your mouth moves, and my OCD hates that.

Why is "Never Gonna Give You Up" in the recommended videos?

[thejoesteiger]

What are some of your favorite Linux apps?

[Defstryker]

Tiny Core Linux is awesome, I built up an Epic distro from Micro Core (the command line version and upgraded kernel to 3.0, my DE is gnome 3 (installed from source) slot of work but worth it!

[OniLinkPlus]

I have a question (no duh)! Do you know of any good GUIs that are lightweight and similar to GNOME (2 or 3, I don't care, I like both of them). I ask because GNOME tends to take up 10-20% of my CPU when I'm doing hardly anything and it sucks.

[RandySilverWolf]

@OniLinkPlus you can try lxde or fxce, they have a similar feel to gnome but are alot more lightweigt

[RobLoach]

Linux Mint.

[FeelItRising]

Arch all the way. kernel 3.0 and KDE 4.7 hit testing repo already and will hit main repository shortly. That's why I love Arch. I hate being out of date now. :)

[TheAntiPlato]

The best I have seen so far- rated on completeness- is Pinguy Linux.

[TheRealSpartanW80]

No love for Gentoo :(

[OfficialKohieArts]

I love all Linux distro's and platform, I rather build my own OS from scratch now days because I'm very creative when building my own user interface and driver's scratch.

[MalcolmLC]

My ati hd4670 runs awsome under ubuntu, You just have to check all the compatiblity things in compiz setting manager then disabled sync to vblank to make the desktop smoother :D

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