Ministry - Effigy (I'm not an)

[MrRoyalnash]

fuck you i will stand up for whatever music i like. get out of here if you dont appreciate good music go back to hanging out with all the stupid talentless puppets out there you douchebag

[billybob61636]

every great song ever recorded has to have 100 or more douches arguing about music in the youtube comments. i dont give a fuck what you like or dont like, but please continue to waste your pathetic life away arguing on the internet. retards.

[halseesall]

@royalnaz1 Industrial rock sucks big time!

[royalnaz1]

fuck that industrial shit. ministry started to suck when to switched there style

[TheVulpineTigerness]

I like both synth pop and industrial ;) great track from a great band!

[g1a1h1]

One of the all time classics.

[royalnaz1]

dis dat shit. white people make great music other people just dont know

[jimcarrey08]

0:38 Sounds like Billy Joe Armstrong in Green Day title track Warning. O.o

[SuperDancingpanda]

@jimcarrey08

are you retarded??seriously did AL make a time machine to listen to greenday and then come back to sound like the whiny wannabe punk??

[jimcarrey08]

@SuperDancingpanda I was trying to say that Armstrong could have been copying that singing those parts of Ministry's song Effigy (I'm not an) in his Warning title track. Which is why I thought some parts of Armstrong singing style in that song sounded too similar to how Al was singing these lines in this song from Ministry. I did not mean the other way around. >.> XP

[julianuknow]

Al was not happy about this album later on he didn't really like it.. he said "most bands get successful then sell out.. I feel like we sold out first" ~ LOL

[royalnaz1]

im peaking on a roxy 30mg. yeahhhhhhhhh

[tsartodd]

al jourgeson ... definitely NOT an F-A-G.

[royalnaz1]

this is boring. are you fucking stupid

what kind of music do you listen to?

this song is crack so is work for love

[MotorsportUK2009]

fuck the government

[madkono]

i never liked what they morphed into!!! wlir, they dare to be different!!!

[rhyno4eva]

Favorite Ministry song, but Psalm 69 is my fave album.

[LivingWorstNightmare]

Gotta admit, I love Ministry and own every album including this one, but Al actually wrote a good dance record on With Sympathy.

If you'reas open minded as I am and can go from listening to Iron Maiden to Depeche Mode, you know what I mean. This album is a gem.

[Ashbuster85]

The only song i really liked from the Ministry New wave era

[thenewfun]

I just discovered this stuff, I love it. The first Ministry I knew was NWO back when it was on MTV.

[trixieliz123]

I know, it's not live but I LOVE this track.

[goldensolder44]

they're good when they where synth pop but what was the cause of their genre change?

[azrial4421]

@goldensolder44 Technology

[OverlordR]

It's not as bad as I'd always been told it was, as related via former members of Al's posse. Still not good, but not crap either. However, I will say, coming from a family of musicians and actors, if a record label or production company insists on total creative control they are making a mistake, when what draws them to SIGN an artist to a label / an actor for a role is specifically their creativity and uniqueness, unless it's some sort of "talent search" / pre-programmed plug-in-a-singer b.s.

[SocialD871]

Though I personally prefer their later work as an industrial/metal outfit, I don't think Al has anything to be embarassed about. Even when they were synthpop they were still one of the best bands of their kind.

[pashedmotatos]

@SocialD871

Oh yeah, totally.

[metroperson]

I have this album....and I like it a lot.....too bad Al got such a stick up his ass about the album.

[roadsideflowers]

This is kinda boring O_o

[pashedmotatos]

@roadsideflowers

It sounds much better if you listen with headphones.

[raedotted]

@pashedmotatos that's true.. It's definately headphone music. I like the funky upbeat stylings of the song "What He Say' from off this album. But what's with the picture on the front of "Gay Magazine" for the video on youtube? Check it out..

[intobearzz]

love this track and the fake British accent.

[pgramann]

LOVED THIS BACK IN THE 80'S. THRASH IS TRASH

[nikola1917]

ministry was signed with the idea they would release their first album playing what the record label wanted them to play. they were only synthpop for the purposes of that first deal. after that they played what they wanted. this is one reason why al doesn't ever play anything from with sympathy or even like talking about that album. he doesn't see it as a TRUE ministry, never did. not even when they were making it.

[TheLemonfreezer]

just awful

[TheLemonfreezer]

@pashedmotatos

what? am I not entitled to an opinion? you're the tool

[TheHarshstonewhite83]

The label may have written and recorded the record for Al, but I'm pretty sure thats him singing. If you compare the singing to the next couple albums, its the same voice.

[lmaousuperfatty]

one of the best techno songs ever! myabe the best

[OpieCavalera]

its funny al wrote nothing on this album. the only thing thats his on this album is his fucking name

[t2dxk0]

@OpieCavalera Al went into a studio and made this record.

[OpieCavalera]

@t2dxk0 no he sat in the studio and watched other people make this record. go watch the opie anthoney interview with AL

[royalnash]

you just learned about gary numan what are you like 10 years old or something

[real80smusic]

gary numan took everything he knew from devo, kraftwerk and the screamers.

[TheNewMusicNetwork]

Ministry(1980) -special affect in 79-80

Al Jourgensen is a musical fucking genius. His body of work since 1979 to this very day (The Last Sucker is awesome shite!!!) is so diverse and it's all fucking brilliant. Rock n Roll Hall of Fame should induct Jourgensen before letting fuckholes like NWA or Russell Simmons in there. MINISTRY 2008,

mutha fuckas...they kicked asses!!!!!!

[tsartodd]

@TheNewMusicNetwork NWA was as big a part of my teenage years as the Ministry, and Russell Simmons deserves to be in for his role in developing hip-hop.

that said, the Ministry deserves to be in the Rock Hall of Fame ... then again, so do Joy Division/New Order, Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode, the Smiths, Yes, and a zillion other awesome bands.

[TheNewMusicNetwork]

@tsartodd Well congratulations. Ministry, Front 242, Nitzer Ebb, Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, Cabaret Voltaire, Men without hats, Devo, the screamers, human league, Berlin, Info society and a hundred other techno acts like new order and depeche mode were a big part of my teenage years as well but Nwa didn't do anything special that wasn't already done before.

[TheNewMusicNetwork]

@TheNewMusicNetwork and I don't think russel simmons developed it. that probably would have been blondie.

[royalnash]

twitch sucks ass. with sympathy adn early trax are good

[RdpstaR]

true true

[royalnash]

this song is good but work for love is the best

[skinnylyni]

For Jeffway - dude hooked me up!

[siness1234]

Well Geez...theres all my post. Stupid delay.

[siness1234]

AL has always been very political. He was singing about it even before this album. We should vote AL for president. I'm sure he'd do a better job. :)

[debo222]

@siness1234  to bad ha cant run being burn i cuba in all

[jeetkunedo57]

Just take the tunes as they are?

[SplatterdaySaints]

to all you assholes AL hates this so get over it he was fucked with no lube the music is his yes and its great but the lyrics and direction wasnt his

[jlmarc01]

@SplatterdaySaints

Fuck that industrial sound any dumb fi=uck can make noise u dumb fu9)**ck

[SplatterdaySaints]

@jlmarc01 yeah ok buddy there's more to that shit than you think (not EVER saying its the hardest music to perform but it's not just beeps and noises)

[antaabel]

Those first 4 songs on With Sympathy were good.

[TheStargazer355]

there is no place else to go the theater is closed!

[MRT0NYB0NES]

Anything AFTER Psalm 69 is HORRIBLE! Ministry had so many great phases, MY personal fave album is Twitch.

[daveandcliff]

OMG, back in a dark underground punk bar in tallahassee at FSU in the day, was great! around 84.

[Boredin81]

I just listened to Twitch, if you can call it that - what a bunch of noise. are you kidding me? old school Ministry is the only way to go.

[XVTroyVX]

1983 - 1992 is when Ministry was great. With Sympathy was good. Twitch was an absolute masterpiece. The Land of Rape and Honey was simply Awesome (great genre transition). The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste is a true beauty of music, Probably their best album. Psalm 69 was super awesome. then they come out with political shit from there. but Rantology was good.

[WelcomeToMaspeth]

The old ministry sounds terrible. Just like any generic synth pop band. When they went industrail they gave a power powerful mesage and a better sound in music.

[Rev1vedR0manEmp1re]

but they didn't change their accent,

Al went through alot of trouble to sing british

"over the shoulder"

is an entirely british video

went missing though

[melodyandzoe]

I love this era from Ministry, With Sympathy and Twitch are great, the new Ministry just sucks.

[bonzot]

that's a a shame, just one fix is a kickass song

[manman246]

The land of Rape and Honey, and The mind is a Terrible thing to taste. Were both amazing in their own way, Psalm 69 and everything after I'd have to agree, is absolutely awful.

[215day]

Not as much as the new Metallica.

[jesterheadflame666]

@melodyandzoe I have not heard much new ministry - mind is a terrible thing to taste is great and what I have heard from Psalm 69 is too, but then he just gets into complaining about Bush like so many other American bands - yawn...some newer tracks I still like, but have heard less of newer stuff for said reason

[RdpstaR]

@melodyandzoe are u serious u must be high

[garden73]

@melodyandzoe i gotta disagree ministry developed into one of the most amazing industrial bands off all time (yeh i enjoyu the early eighties new wave stuff too but) creative and distinctive music that touched the souls of so many people in the last 20 years, yes they might have been a tad pissed off at the world but that just seems reasonable

[TrueSpyderZero]

@melodyandzoe i like em both.. i like all ministry.

[Sickcyber66]

OMG! I use to love this song!

[flyonthewindscreen]

Awesome song - they were great right up to Jesus Built My Hotrod -then started sucking.

[froydmansig]

@flyonthewindscreen Yes, heroin will have that effect on music artists.

[perpetual61]

I still Have This on Cd. it is very Rare and if You are Lucky to find it. I Suggest Buy It.

[trollfinger]

I would, but it's so rare.

[maddison31797]

Love it: 2:05

[poodlette]

I thought this was really cool: I posted "Effigy" on my FB wall and my speed metal friend thumbs upped this song which perplexed me--I thought perhaps he didn't listen to the song and just thought it was the NOW Ministry. It turns out he LOVES early Ministry and synth music in general. GREAT!

[TheUndert0ker]

Al is a really talented guy. He must have been on coke during this era, and transitioned to heroin in the much angrier years to come.

[AJtheory]

He wasn't on Coke; he was on Aqua Net, egg whites, and Manic Panic

[mooky9669]

I really liked Ministry during this time.

[lonchecaliente]

GOD.

[bunnygal079]

With Sympathy and Filth Pig are both of my faves from Ministry...With Sympathy's the best tho..

[drhans1]

+dark side of the spoon

[klapausius69]

No se porque, pero el Synthpop me da mucha nostalgia y eso que cuando este género estaba en su apogeo todavía no nacía. Este disco esta a la altura del resto de su discografia.

[tsartodd]

i like this album (as well as the better-known thrash-industrial Ministry albums). but it DOES sound like he's saying "i'm not an F-A-G"

[Sesquipedaliantique]

Funnily enough one of the newer RevCo tracks is called "I'm Not Gay". Jourgensen doth protest too much, methinks.

[redskyterror]

I heard this on the radio a few weeks ago and I was like "...Man, where the fuck have I heard this before..." XD

[mooky9669]

this isn't loading for some reason..

[6999999METAL6666669]

thanks guys i also learned about gary numen

[Sesquipedaliantique]

Try some Liaisons Dangereuses too :)

[donisaggenau]

I may get slammed for these, but try out:

Berlin-Masquerade

the cure-the walk

Cause and effect- things she said

Depeche mode-see you

miss kittin-1982

Hope that helps ya!

[hutchelm]

Naw....Those are all good.

[malcolmsnake]

Um, that's Gary NUMAN, with a u.

[missionpants]

Ok more awesome bands:

Severed Heads - Greater Reward (and the 'bizarro' Greater Reward 2007 version, lol)

(YT wont let me link, so just copy/paste into the stupid search box, lolOl)

Skinny Puppy - Assimilate

Iron Curtain - The Condos

Ladytron - Ghosts (try the Modwheel Mood remix on YT)

Alphaville - Victory of Love (and, well, really anything by them, lol)

The Raveonette's - You Say You Lie

Pseudo Echo - Living in a Dream

Traci Lords - Walking In LA (yea really)

[missionpants]

Ok 1st 3 that comes to mind:

Cabaret Voltaire - I Want You

Modern English - Someone's Calling

Front 242 - Masterhit

[6999999METAL6666669]

can anyone recommend me more music like this please?

[AORCrazy]

Can't believe that asshole Al Joergensen did this AWESOME music!? What kind of a man does this kind of music clearly with much pleasure and than rejects it totally! He's two-faced!

[Sesquipedaliantique]

Not really, peoples taste changes all the time. Look at David Tibet: he practically invented industrial then abandoned it in favour of folk. It's all good.

[Sesquipedaliantique]

Two words: Ronald Reagan. It's hard to stay mellow in that kind of political climate. Grandpa Al went fucking berzerk.

[heliumtrophy]

This is what has been baffling me for years. Still, I can accept both. Just the more he turns his back on this stuff, the more I'll listen to it.

[poop770]

Als a great singer

[heliumtrophy]

Surprisingly so.

[auxbel]

@TheSynthExperience ministry is industrial metal

[jesterheadflame666]

@TheSynthExperience What's wrong with it? Mind is a terrible thing to taste is amazing and a classic industrial metal album. Often it's the other way around - a band starting of with less electronic, harsher metal music and gradually incorporating more melodic synthpop elements

[nikola1917]

@TheSynthExperience ministry was signed with the idea they would release their first album playing what the record label wanted them to play. they were only synthpop for the purposes of that first deal. after that they played what they wanted. this is one reason why al doesn't ever play anything from with sympathy or even like talking about that album. he doesn't see it as a TRUE ministry, never did. not even when they were making it.

[Jiveturkey68]

@nikola1917 So he sold out on W.S. Thats his fault too he didn't have to; just for a deal, yuck I wish I could get that thought outta my head. I like W.S o well I guess I like sellout AL just as much. Anyway old news I guess but, he said he was gonna make a Synth-pop album like Fad Gadget and The The. Hope he was not joking I was looking forward to it. He ventured to far into metal and never been a fan of metal so I hope the synth stuff comes to fruition .

[rofyle]

@nikola1917 Would you please at least bother to Google the results of your imagination before you speak them out through your ass. Ministry was synth for more than one album, and Al was synth long before he was Ministry.

[nikola1917]

@rofyle i paraphrased. the fact is, al refused back in the day to even talk about with sympathy on that very basis. he had wanted to take the band in a new direction before that album and the record company signed them based on that sound. my huband was a radio jock in the early 80s and he interviewed him. his publicist told my husband to NOT ask about with sympathy or to even discuss it per al's request. when it did come up, al ended the interview.

[beachmousegirl]

@TheSynthExperience I always wondered that myself!!! totally LOVED this album!!!

[raedotted]

@TheSynthExperience heroin...

[neetrihtneves]

@TheSynthExperience -imagine you like to eat ice cream, and you've always liked tutti frutti. one day, however, you decide to try say, rocky road or cherry chocolate, and you find that you really like those, too. maybe even enough that one of those different flavors becomes your favorite. there's no law that says you have to stay with your first favorite flavor. it's okay for your tastes to change.

now imagine that you really like making one particular type of music...

[killforfiend]

@neetrihtneves I agree, its also known as rediscovering yourself, but al only did this style only because arista wanted him to, I like with sympathy but not all the songs, recent ministry is okay, but i prefer with sympathy - Psalm 69, filth pig, darkside.. and animosisomnia aren't that great (in my opinion) but the anti-bush trilogy isn't that bad in my opinion

[Eldeecue]

Very strange...the older I get, the more I prefer With Sympathy and Twitch to their later stuff....anyone else have this happen?

To be sure, Land of Rape and Honey remains my absolute favorite (for now?) but I like their first two more now than anything on Psalm 69...which sounds....weird/blasphemous to hear myself saying, honestly.

[yeahmydad]

Incredible album! Yes, the memories...wake boarding after school in a lake in Florida playing on cassette in a shiny silver boom box~ Thanks for the giggles!

[mykweba]

did ya go to the shows at --edge-- visage electric ave --firestone --spit--lakeland--ozz? mike in melb,,,,,

[daveandcliff]

Ahhhh memories of the dance days in college, excellent tune!

[gangstaginamontana]

Twitch is better.

[a1jungle]

I also happen to have this on vinyl and cd!!!!

[a1jungle]

One of my favs too...the whole release is awesome...I have been a fan of this release since it first came out....I love it...am also an ex dj at a college radio station in Seattle when this came out...that is how how I found them......

[PistolPete1965]

ahh.. the memories...

[FuCkInGWhItEcHaPeL]

dealjobber you don't like their industrial shit?

[johnisalycan]

a couple of days ago I found this at my local thrift shop on lp....twas an amazing find to say the least.

[GREEKpower93]

before they went industrial ,ministry were...simply bad

[FuCkInGWhItEcHaPeL]

this was before al jourgensen started droppin' acid. once he did that shit, ministry became what they are today

[DJCadz]

the good thing about this is that there's an attitude to the music,it's still a radical sound,and considering how they changed it all up again completely,makes it even more commendable.two totally different styles,one great band.

and coldplay?for god's sake, they have about as much 'edge' to their music as Mcfly.boring corporate rock..

[mercyf3ll2012]

I love Ministry's later work...but this is an excellent album all by itself :)

[DoctorPatient]

uhhh, for someone who only knows Ministry from "Land of Rape and Honey" onward, this is pretty shocking ... not to classify this music as bad, but, shocking in the transformation and level of anger and sense of a "mission" to enlighten people who'd listen to the fact things aren't as happy-go-lucky as some would like it to be ... I found "... Rape and Honey" quite moving and important for the new sound sources they incorporated into that trademark driving groove

[azrial4421]

wow thank god they picked up guitars, I meant i liked the album twitch but this is uh ....yeah

[kneedragger81]

Hey...the first two notes of the synth part are the same as the new Coldplay single....daaahhh daaaaa

[ThePoisonDoor]

Why go and do a silly thing like that... The two bands are worlds apart :S

[Lateralus281]

I love 'Twitch'!

Actually, I prefer the electronic sound (i.e. synthesizers) of Ministry found on such albums as "Twitch" and "The Land of Rape and Honey" but I do enjoy and consider their other guitar-driven metal to be excellent, depending on the album and song, of course.

[malmswax]

Twitch is my first and fave also...good call.

[CloudCucku]

'she's got a cause' is an equally lovely track

[missylynn1010]

love 80's music!!! Does that mean I am getting old???

[BlueOceanBelow]

Nope, it means you're staying young.

[defkon1972]

No you are not getting old, cause I am 36 and partied my as off in houston at some of the most notorious clubs. ie--Numbers, dv8, splash, red square, detour, paragon, club Ect, and the list goes on.

[Burnsengine]

wow! I miss this music

[YeshuaKingsKid]

Yep, me too apotts60...this is a classic of

The Day....

I listened to a lot of Wire Train and INXS, OMD, The Call & Echo & The Bunnymen

during this time :)

[apotts60]

Great song so many memories. I actually bought this album back in the day and still have it. Wow still love the song.

[olande1]

That was a sign of the times. The English bands sounded American and vice-versa.Who cares this was great music!! Still is.

[rockprogmetal]

lol im a metalhead and i enjoy this, its cool

[xlogold]

I recorded this song from the radio in early 1988 on the radio but never knew what song it was. i'm glad I finally know now!

[toobadgrrrl]

this was my favourite lp for the longest...and it still sounds flippin tremendous. this is my song.

[chickendoodstudios]

Its suprising if you look at a recent cover of the M its like the apocolyptic sybmbol but on this its just....Boring.

[skinnypuppy1]

dude this is industrial

[chickendoodstudios]

Synthpop / New wave.

Industrial is deeper harder and stronger.

[runaway1928]

was it way back then? indust. right now is like that...but this might b indust. to ppl who were young back then..

[ThePoisonDoor]

this album was released a short while before ministry became industrial... back then it was known as synth pop or new wave

[EricAStiven]

It's Goth Rock!

[salcerna1960]

still sounds good in 09'

[tsartodd]

damn right -- this whole record holds up very well. even though al jourgeson seems to have disowned it -- which is understandable considering his bad-ass reputation after this record.  hey, i grew up listening to depeche mode and gary numan (both of whom, like the ministry, got "harder" and "darker" as they got older) and other synthpop and this holds its own against all of them.

[EricStiven]

One of my favs of all time. I love Old Ministry. I danced to this at The Metropolis in Fint Michigan in 1996 with my Aunt. They actually had this tune. Well Flint is dead now ..... somebody get me out of here........

[runaway1928]

=\ move?

[bynfoxy]

My bad!! I thought that was someone else. Where the hell did the accent come from?

[bynfoxy]

That's not even Al. It's before he was even in Ministry. Do you really think he had an English accent?

[Kannebas]

Of course he doesn't have an English accent. He faked it.

[jbergan87]

You are correct.

[islanderboy]

Oh, that's Al. He's just faking the accent. Apparently the only way to sing gloomy new wave is to have an English accent.