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  • i think that um.. well it looks like shes flirting but shes jelous of starling

  • i was hoping for some lesbo action?

  • @matey95

    me too

    

  • From technodude458 both of you shut up damn it have a politics debate somewhere else ps I agree with crashkadra

  • ...Why did she slip?

  • @oodsong Because Uncle Ruckus from Boondocks threw a brick at her

  • Seriously guys? Can't you two just act your ages!! Anyway it could be taken as either 'connecting' or just gushing.

  • And this is why I have missed this show. I love Piper xD

  • tHAT IS sick. piper is not a lesbian. she is just trying to impress and make a good impression on person she admires. i mean really, what is wrong with you people. there are more aerrow/piper hints than anything. and notice how she calls starling her second fav sky knight after Aerrrow. bec the cute red head will alwys be her first.

  • @pansyanddraco

    I don't really understand why you think it's sick.

    It's just an observation someone made and besides, who told you that Piper was straight?

    Her sexual preferences were never identified in the show so all you have to go on is speculation, the same as us.

    Love; Birdie

  • @crashkadara plenty of reasons. and considering the scenes between her and aerrow-it is more likely she is straight. and while your "specualtion" is based on twisted, obscene fantasies, mine is actual observation.

  • @pansyanddraco

    ...

    Okay, so why are my speculations (well, not actually mine, but the creator of this video) twisted or obscene?

    There is plenty of subtext eluding to the fact that she might bat for the other team, or more likely (in my opinion) both.

    I can't comprehend why my observations and the observations of many other fans are lesser than your own, all theories about the characters sexuality are based on speculation as none of them are seen in any form of romantic relationships.

  • @crashkadara there is no subtext-she is behaving like a normal girl. lost of girls gush like that. she clearly states that aerrow is her favorite sky knight, hugs him, holds his hand etc. i mean to say a charac is gay on a kids show-is sick. next u will be saying da is a pedophile lusting after underaged boys. pathetic

  • @pansyanddraco First off, please try to refrain from using txt speek while talking to me, I have a difficult time trying to read it.

    Next, whereas there are a lot of hints that she may be attracted to Aerrow there is also a lot of hints showing that she may be attracted to other characters, including female ones. Now, we as watchers have every right to take this information and use it to form our own opinions.

    Continued...

  • @crashkadara the only hints that are there are in your perverted little mind. a girl can gush over another girl and not be gay. she can wink and not have sexual undertones. i cannot imagine where u get this sickness from to see gayness in a cartoon but seriously seek mental help. ur confusing normal behavior with something sick. and i have never seen her as happy as she is with anyone as she is with aerrow.

  • @pansyanddraco Miss, I think you have some serious double standards, also, good job on ignoring most of the points laid out in my last comment.

    What you are saying here is that it is okay for you to say certain characters are in love because of vague hints you see in the show but if I say two characters are in love because of vague hints in the show it's sick and twisted. It seems to me the only difference in these scenarios is that my pairing is homosexual and yours is heterosexual.

    Cont...

  • @pansyanddraco This leads me to believe you may in fact be a homophobe.

    If so, you disgust me and shouldn't really have any right to call yourself human.

    Furthermore, when she is with Aerrow she is usually with the rest of the team as well, does that mean she is in love with all of them? (By the way, I'm ignoring that bile-filled rant about my mental state as it is not only offensive but also irrelevant).

    Continued... (sorry for the legnth)

  • @crashkadara and u are a fag loving ,sick twisted pervert, who will be advocating other perversity that only the depraved individuals sink to like you. you SHOULDNT CALL YOURSELF HUMAN BEC U BELONG WITH DOGS CAUSE you advocate fucking like them, you sick freak.

  • @pansyanddraco You are a horrid little beast who has the mentality of a six year old fundamentalist bigot, without whom the world would probably benefit.

    You don't belong with humans because to be human you must possess a sense of humanity.

    You should have also evolved passed the knuckle dragging stage.

    Love; Birdie

    P.s; Sorry it took me so long to reply, I was cleaning out one of my animals pens.

    OH AND BY THE WAY, CAPSLOCK IS NOT CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.

  • @crashkadara and it is pervert, sickos like urself which is there even exists aerrow/da fans. and newsflash, there have been many instances where she has been alone with aerrow and they have connected. but i suppose your twisted mind, you fail to see that. dementia probably

  • @pansyanddraco and there are moments in the show when she has been alone with female characters and they have connected. I am not denying that there is a chance she may be attracted to Aerrow but I do believe there is a chance that she is attracted to some of the female character as well.

    Also, you could have put most of this in the same comment if you had left out the pointless fluff.

  • @crashkadara homophobe is a vile invented by jackasses like urself to validate ur demented behavior.

  • @pansyanddraco I don't fully understand what that was even supposed to mean.

  • @crashkadara not surprising, the putrid bile in your brain is hampering your thought process.

  • @pansyanddraco I have done so and so have you, however we do not have any right to say which opinion is right or wrong, we can only guess.

    Lastly, why is it that you find the suggestion that one of the characters is attracted to another character when you yourself advocate another pairing? It just seems highly hypocritical.

    Oh and by the way, I don't think the Dark Ace is attracted to any of the characters due to the age difference, however I do not know for certain, just like you.

  • @crashkadara really bec people have opinions on his interaction with aerrow and master cyclonis too and seeing how twisted your mind is- i doubt pedophilia is far from thought-for you that is. I find it revolting.

  • @pansyanddraco And to adress your point about the Dark Ace, I didn't actually ask for the reasons why you think he's a pedophile, I was simply stating that I do not believe as such.

  • @crashkadara when you clean all your sick twisted thoughts, then watch cartoons otherwise you are just dirtying innocent tv shows with your bile and filth. cannot expect anything else from you because it is what you are.

  • @pansyanddraco Please refer to my PM and my last comment, I hope you have a good day.

  • @crashkadara ur a vile twisted, perverted sicko and i hope you meet your end violently

  • @crashkadara she has never connected with any female character. the thing with lark was friendship. again, you are deluded. and it is not flirting, it is gushing with excitement on meeting your hero. geeze. ur impossibly daft.

  • @pansyanddraco I'm sorry, I try not to communicate with degenerates.

    Please seek some form of evolutionary help before contacting me again.

    Concerned regards: Birdie.

  • @crashkadara Considering u deem humans should imitte animals, you are evolutionary retard who should get a good beating to knock some sense into you. i am surprised no one has beaten ur arrogant, useless ass for the nonsense u spout.

  • @crashkadara i usually do not answer freaks like yourself bec being twisted, pervert minded loons who celebrate their own sickness. i am glad we have effective methods of dealing with you sickos, a clean, swift death. you choose to fuck like animals (animals are the reason faggotry deserves to lawful) please, your the animal loving fucktard . the scum of the planet who does not deserve to live bec you are what is wrong in this planet. go screw a goat or whatever your perverse kind is into.

  • @crashkadara and i was yelling dumbass. is head with such thoughts as underaged fags getting tog that you didnt know that. i am glad we dont have fags here. they are usually xterminated but i guess they do that in your country too. (the gay suicides) i hope u meet someone who will compel you to take that step. last thing this world needs is sickos like urself advocating faggotry in childrens cartoons. b

  • ROFL! She's a lesbian!!! And everyone is trying to pair her up with Aerrow...

  • @Reders160 It was another girl

  • Piper may have the most lesbian subtext that I've seen in a western cartoon series.

  • hahaha

  • (giggle) "Oh,Thank you,I can do other things too you know."

    Oh man,How did I not see that before? I wonder if "Lockpicking" and "Recon" are codewords.

  • is piper bi? XD

  • aaaaaaaaa I'LL KILL HER AERROW'S MINE!!!!!!!!! man i really need to find a boyfriend

  • @AerrowsGirl368 lol XD

  • Lock picking?

    And talkin' about Getting Crap Past the Radar! (Les Yay) XD

  • WICKED! That proves it, Piper is les!

  • haha! Piper's jealous.

  • @60av8or What's Piper jealous of?

  • Intereting..I wouldn't mind seeing more of that

  • the inclusion of such a character is clearly a victory for the LGBT and women's rights activists everywhere

    cartoon writers are finally warming up to this idea

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  • This is the moment that made me want to see the show. XD Les yay!

  • hm i'm missing the battle from the "masked masher" episode between Cyclonis and Piper... Piper lays on her back in front of her cyclonis with her big long staf pulsating with... energy.... pointing at pipers private area...

    How did they get it past the executives and on air without being called on it?

  • What? Is that for real? I have to watch that epsidoe again and look for that moment =O

  • what r u ppl on about

    shes just dead chuffed that she gets to actually TALK to her hero

    wouldn't we be like that too if we could get to talk with the prezident or sumthin?

  • GO PIPER wakachica wakachica wakachica wakachica

  • 0:28 FAIL!

  • Yeah, lol!

  • Dya know; I just find it interesting that she falls down on the word "Convert" with such a heavilly implied "Flirting pose" to Starling XD; That just...I reckon that's a tip-off like nothin' else for Piper's possible orientation, personally.

  • We all know her and Aerrow are so gonna get it on xP

  • @EvilJellyMen Hopefully four years from now, when they're actually legal. Dx

  • lol

  • Showing off and flirting at the same time? Awesome :)

  • that is the trying to sound cool in front of her hero.

  • Bless her. xD

    Stork's the best, tbh ^^

  • we all know she would do that for auerrow anyday :D i mean ive heard lots of ppl say that piper wants auerrow big time in more ways than one :3 BOW CHICKA BOW WOW

  • I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one who noticed this.

    They probably didn't mean for the scene to come off looking that way.

    I'm guessing that the original intent was for Piper to appear embarrassed from the attention / praise that she received from a fellow female skyknight.

  • @misterprickly Although Piper is not actually a sky knight.

  • @misterprickly They probably did, since Piper has scenes like this with quite literally every humanoid female on the show...

  • lol when she said i can do other things i LOLED SO HARD yeah storm hawks rock!

  • THAT ROCKED

  • she was just trying to sound like shes really awesome...BUT NOT AS AWESOME AS STORK

  • lol...piper is sooo weird somtimes XD

  • Ooooookay. XD

  • She was more likely flirting with aerrow the hottie than starling the survior.Pfft waay off!!

  • She was flirting with Aerrow!!!

  • She's not flirting, she's just showing off to her idol XD

  • Thank you!!!

  • true, but very BADLY!!!!

  • I'm an Aerrow/Piper fan but I'm not PO. I'll give ya a thumbs up cuz it was funny. Plus, she's just trying to show off her skills to her idol, not flirt.

  • Piper seems to like both the guys and the girls. Flirting with Starling, that silly expression she got on her face when Harrier (uptight moron) bowed at them, fangirling at Domowick, winking at Rex Guardian Girl, maybe a little thing with Lynn...

  • lol piper XD what did she even slip on ?

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  • I was wondering thet to! XD

  • lol XDDD

  • YOU HAVE RIGHT

  • She was so flirting! ^_^

    It's good to see a lesbian in a great series such as Storm Hawks. A good show deserves good diversity, and seeing that this fictional world isn't filled with just straights actually makes it that much more realistic.

    Bless Canada for being open-minded and with the times. This IS the 21st century after all.

  • Storm Hawks' Piper is the antidote to "hitting-you-over-the-head-wit­h-a-message" series like Buddy G. :P

  • I'd like to see some inter-species hints in Storm Hawks as well.

    Hell, Stork gave Lugey a suspect look in "Life with Lugey", he even brushed his hair behind his ear

  • was her arm leaning on a wall...It didnt look like it :S....

  • Lol funny! Yeah I noticed that before when I was actually watching the show on tv.. I was like why did her voice go like that!? SHE SHOULD BE TALKING LIKE THAT TO AERROW! LMAO. :)

  • lol I never noticed that before

  • She is so flirting!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • That's not flirting, thats admiration.

  • no, I don't think that's admiration, I think that's being a kiss up or suck up.

  • As has been pointed out before, I will point out again. Gay characters and/or subtext CAN be in children's shows. For Storm Hawks itself, see the Murk Raiders and Argryn (sp?)

    But other childrens shows have had gay elements that were far more blatant.

    Characters: In Disney's Lilo and Stitch the series Pleakley and Jumba are freaking MARRIED, the cartoon Brace Face had a gay character who befriended Sharon.

    Subtext: In Beast Wars Rattrap kissed Rhinox TWICE, once on the mouth!

  • I'd also like to add that Velma from Scooby-Doo was also an open lesbian in a lot of the original shows.

    In any case, I think what the show is saying is that Piper has a girl-crush on Starling because Starling is her favorite Sky Knight. I think she was just trying to act cool to impress her idol. :P

  • true, shes trying to impress starling but probably gets a bit over exited when trying. Its like when your trying to impress some one that you admire.

    She did the same with l.J domowik in episode 17 (forbidden city).

  • blah no offense

  • Besides, Repton would have his sights set on Aerrow if he tried anything with Starling. She may not like him, but Repton's behaviour in Absolute Power (wanted to make her into stew, but then said he'd spare her) indicates that he might harbour impure thoughts about her.

  • lol that was just funny! although i defo think piper and aerrow should get together!!

  • Okay, you are all very strange people. This is only on here, because it is funny. Get it? It makes people L-A-U-G-H. You all have no sense of humor =/ Tut tut....

  • this is funny but i thought this was gonna be like a piece of an episode i missed of piper like being all suave to somebody. XD but that isn't even flirting D:

  • You have a strange definition of flirting. That was right out of Finn's handbook.

  • the only reason this doesnt work for me is cuz im an AerrowXPiper fan.

  • it's a canda produce show so yes they will be things like lesbianism,strange customs and etc...

    doesn't matter if it's a kid show...ever seen ren and stimpy? Should that be a kids show?

  • "You all are wrong...Piper and the word gay are not right. This is a KID's show."

    So you're saying lesbians are wrong and that children should should be sheltered from them? I don't even watch this show but that seemed like one of those "oh someone I like so I'll spaz out in an attempt to impress him/her" bits.

  • By not falling over. >P

  • science

  • and anyways, she's not flirting, she just admires Starling

  • Yep, she's a groupie.

  • BY BEING A LESBIAN!!!!

  • yeah! HOW THE HELL DOES THAT HAPPEN?! it's blasphemy! crazy talk! down right...impossible? lol

    you're so retarded...

  • yea...i just figured that she would act that way 1. around starling cuase she is kinda like her idol, and like almost anyone would kinda act like that if they were near someone they thought of as their idol, and then secondly because she she stuck with like five dudes all day, when she gets to be around another girl she's like "omg someone i can talk to who actualy understands kinda thing"

    i never really thought of her as gay lol.

  • You all are wrong...Piper and the word gay are not right. This is a KID's show. Even if the producers were trying to imply she was lesbo, they wouldn't make it as obvious as that. If you want to see Piper flirt, watch the Forbidden City episode, and she wasn't exactly cheap with her affections in ep. 4, either. I think she just admires Starling and wants to impress.

  • I'll smack him if he was oblivious to that XD

  • ok piper isnt a lez or watever u think ppl in old comments, shes just trying to show off like, that start gurl is her idol -_-

    anywayz

    PIPER FTW BROWN PRIDEE

  • Well, she never used that kind of suggestive poses around other people she idolizes, and there's been a lot of them.

  • brown pride FTW.

  • People, Piper isn't gay. Its a kids show, CN wouldn't allow it (even if that is homophobic). Have you ever seen a gay character in a kids tv show? No.

  • They allowed Arygyn in episode 26. :/

  • Have you not seen episode 25?

  • Oh yeah, that was 25, not 26. And I just remembered, the Murk Raiders in 24 actually did some pretty stereotypical posturing, with the captain's limpwrist gesticulation and the fact that he got asked to dance by Finn and accepted.

  • Piper is gay. Call it one of those Television show revolutions that go unchecked.

  • To be fair, she could very well be bi. There's similar incidents with male characters she encounters (usually in the form of gushing over them), but I've noticed a tendency for the animators to have her interact more strongly around female characters (and vice-versa). And there's no doubt Chiara Zanni adds some exasperated stuttering when there's an episode with Starling. Basically, there's enough going on in some episodes to make my gaydar go off. What's nice is it doesn't attract attention.

  • When I say "strongly", I don't mean in a regular friendly manner, more like a playful manner. Like when she tells Finn that Dove's riding with her. She's doing Dove a favor, but Zanni's emphasis on words and the animators making Piper gesticulate heavily, gives the scene some undertones which would be more obvious if the character was male. It's little things like that.

  • Never mind. :P

  • I know.

    What's even nicer, is that the creators GO there.

    Makes TV less one sided.

  • I know. I love Storm Hawks and all, but they aren't always subtle about things (especially in terms of comedy), but romance in general in this series has been pretty lowkey and subtle. How many people realize Aerrow has a picture of Dove in his room, for instance? I'd like it to stay that way for as long as possible.

  • But of course they're not subtle. Otherwise, children would not get the jokes.

    Untill the FCC wreaks havoc on them, and that other show where all the major characters are gay, The show will remain as is.

  • What other show is that? I assume it's an animated series?

  • I watch SH but I forgot, who's Dove?

  • Dove is the French-accented resistance leader from episode 3. She wears cutlery as armor.

  • Arygyn in Storm Hawks, Pelvus in Shadow Raiders, Rattrap kissing Rhinox in Beast Wars (all Scott McNeil characters btw)

  • Okay, um, you know, comparing the general sexual orientation of Piper, Aerrow, etc, it would kinda figure to me that, (unlike pokemon which sucks ass now,) that hopefully, eventually, there'd be a little romance early in the story. What I hope of is Aerrow+Piper & god forbid but I dare say, Finn+Cyclonis. Of course, He'd have to get a bit of intelligence when it comes to women as well as a kickass charm & some balls. Seriously.

  • She isn't gay or anything she admires her and wants to impress her.

  • I agree

  • thank you finnaly people who agrees and can see that shes not gay

  • Who cares about Piper's sexual orientation. She is still cool.

  • Agreed. 8)

  • actually you'll find that piper is most definately straight

  • The evidence so far speaks against it. Looking at some of the other threads you've commented on, I think I'll end this conversation now. Do find some videos you're interested in rather than ones you don't like.

  • 30-32

    lool

    that was funny

  • I only said it to see if I could PO the Aerrow/Piper fans. And it looks like it worked, I've gotten three thumbs down...

  • True, it does appear that she shows an interest in famous/intellectual men as well as women, so she might very well be bi. And she does suck up to Starling, but unlike Finn, never pushes her luck, which is true to her character. Finn is a constant womanizer, while Piper is more detached and values someone's intellect more.

  • besides in episode 17 it proves that piper isn't gay when she found out that domiwick was a traitor she was kinda heart broken and don't you think if she was gay she would have been all sucking up to starling and everything but no she wasn't because piper is not gay you can make your twisted videos and everything but you know you will always be wrong VT16 allways no matter what you say so you might aswell just quit saying that and never say it again cause i'll be back arguing with you

  • that is just crazy talk you know why they don't beat us over the head with it because their is no it piper is not gay okay she doesn't like the rex guardian woman or lark or dove or suzi lu or ravess or starling ok that video is discusting i have never seen anyone so hell bent on someone being gay i mean why would you partially like someone because their gay

  • Jeez, amazing how much homophobia you fitted into that one comment.

  • Yawn, jeez you must really hate gay people if you're creating this much of a stink about people thinking someone is having a gay moment in a cartoon

  • it's just as bad with aerrow and dark ace

    why do you want her to be gay so bad any way

  • Because that's partially the reason I like her? They don't beat us over the head with it, and that's what I like. Whenever any kind of gay issues or character is used, it's almost always overblown. And goodness knows Storm Hawks isn't actually known for it's subtlety, other than design details and background details (like the picture of Dove in Aerrow's bunk, for instance). This is just another background detail. :)

  • yeah well you didn't have to say something like that

  • for a storm hawks fan you sure do like insulting piper if the storm hawks were real and they saw that they would would be discusted

    why do you have to say something like that you should be ashamed

    shame on you ):

  • But Piper is my favorite character! She's half the reason I like the show. ): (The other half is the characters in general and the easy-going pace of the show.)

  • the reason she winked at her opponent was because she saw she had the wrong badge on if you watch it properly

    she wasn't making bedroom eyes at lark either she was just sitting next to her and staring at her

    and besides if dove she sat behind finn on his ride it would have been dangerous because finns ride allways gets destroyed were pipers ride doesn't

    and even if she stood like that it doesn't mean shes gay shes trying to impress starling

  • Actually, Piper noticed her silver badge afterwards, when the judges ruled on a technicality.

  • yeah i think its aerrow aswell cuz iz face after she falls over

  • Piper is so adorable!!!

  • Actually i think it's Finn who does it either that or she slips on the floor seen as Finn's cleaning it XD

  • Everytime Starling is around, Piper acts like a lesbian around her!

    Maybe she is one!!!

  • thats tight

  • LOL I love that bit shes tottaly got the hots for Starling XD

  • evn tho i no shes only tryin 2 imprs her it reli 

    makes her sond like a lesbo

  • she not flirting starling is her hero so she would try and take credit for most things so that she can impress starling

  • Oh, she's flirting alright. The pose she makes is pretty much a "stock gesture" in animated flirting situations.

    She also winks at her female opponent in episode 4, makes "bedroom eyes" at Lark in episode 6, and has a little verbal sparring match with Finn over who Dove gets to ride with. All examples that, if Piper was male, would have led to dozens of romantic fanfics alone. >P

  • Geez, no one gets called a sicko when they talk about straight flirting in shows. :/