0:06 The man on the left clearly reacts to what he sees. His whole body convulses and his brain attempts to process the facts his eyes have just witnessed. The man in the middle shows almost no reaction. The man on the right is the most interesting of the three. His body reacts in accordance with the sound he has heard. You can see that he flinches to his left (screen right) and steps as if move toward the sound - is body language is very assertive.
Look at Mary Mooremen. The lady in the blue jacket. If you watch the zapruder and this film several things come up. She has the best angle for the headshot. Jackie is all over JFK because of the throat shot.This headshot might haven't been far away at all. The CIA was training women at this time and who would suspect a woman assassin? In the Zapruder she is holding the camera almost rested on her shoulder and look at her feet stance almost like a standing rifle position.
Kennedy was shot from someone hiding inside the trunk. That is the only way he and Connally could have been in line. The other shooters were to make noise to frame Oswald. The shooters then changed the angle so he would not hit anyone else in the car. You can see frame 313 the bullet going upwards about ten degrees from center exiting. Look at frame 313 on Harris video. This rules out everyone else. They do not want you to know shooter was in the trunk, because it means the government did it
The dark guy in the black pants and cardigan on the steps (next to Emmet Hudson) has been speculated to be with the African-American woman and baby seen at the inside corner of the wall at the top of the steps (by witness Marilyn Sitzman - who was standing with Abraham Zapruder). There are photos on the net of the couple and baby at the wall, minutes after the assassination. The woman and child are strong candidates to be the Blackdogman shape seen in the Willis and Moorman photos.
Unlike most of the people who comment here, I have stood on those stairs, and stood behind the picket fence, it is less than 15 feet from the fence to the three men, do you notice how none of them turn to see where the shot came from?, because no shot came from the knoll, NONE!, any person standing there with a rifle/gun would have been seen by more than a few people.
To me, the film clearly shows, that the fatal shot had to have been from the Knoll area. So, there was a conspiracy. It's all a sad tale, he was ambushed, by a triangulation of fire. And the secret service were completely unreliable. Even if their superior told them not to move, as bullets started flying, they should've over ruled him, and done something. Or at least tried.
@thePRfirm Then shut up, stupid! You are the person who became defensive the moment I posted a response to your first comment. All I was doing was responding to some of the things you said, and you went on the defense. You ask stupid questions, then, when someone responds to them with answers you don't like, this is the end result. You start the name calling, and want to argue, not me. GROW UP!
@thePRfirm It figures. You follow the complete insanity of Jack White, who was shown to be nothing but a fool during his testimony before the House Select Committee on Assassinations, in 1978. His and Jim Fetzer's(another conspiracy nutcase) nonsense regarding the Moorman photograph has been successfully debunked by several other highly respected researchers. Anyone who takes Jack White or Jim Fetzer seriously, aren't playing with a full deck!
Well it definately looks like the guy in the red shirt on the steps hand jumps up at the same time the head shot is delivered as if it was the recoil of a gun . Also looks like he has something in his hand .
Odd, before Mrs. Kennedy was even out of her seat, Clint Hill was at the limo. "LongLiveOx" noticed it, too that in the Zapruder Film, Hill doesn't even reach the limo until Mrs. Kennedy is sprawled on the trunk, then he jumps, misses, jumps again, and gets on the bumper.
@SecretService80 I believe they removed frames. I won't go as far as to say both films are totally fake. but im pretty sure they moved frames around. it does seem odd.
Boy, you know I just noticed for the first time, Clint Hill started running towards the car, right after the head shot. He was RIGHT THERE; he appears to touch the back of the car, yet Jackie is still seated. In the Zapruder film, you don't see that. In that film, it isn't until Jackie is up on the trunk, that you see Hill there. There's definitely some strange things that have gone on with this case. Anyone who doesn't see that, is just delusional.
the funny thing about the three men on the steps is that the one with the hat is clearly not reacting to the fatal shot....he's just standing there, easy lol
@bfjn03 I agree...and everybody keeps parroting this same crap that the press tells them...he is recoiling from shock....HE SHOT HIM!...IS THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD SO STUPID? CAN'T ANYONE SEE? IT IS AS PLAIN AS DAY! .. THE GUY IN THE RED SHIRT IS ONE OF THE SHOOTERS!
@tarkus223 yah... kinda late but sevral "hobos" were seen getting off the train, but were never actually interogated by police, they claimed to be hobo's jumping a train, but they had on fresh clean clothes, and were completely groomed
just a observation the guy on the steps to the right[i no nothink about them]but does he look like hes putting his hand in pocket raising his hand and back in pocket ...he turns around and leaves the area before the limo has gone past seems strange on then on the nix film hes half way up the steps and gone...the crowd seem to gather on the steps..............he was fast on leaveing when everybody else was standing still his hand is up at the bang of thegun..just an observation ...
I had always seen the Muchmore film with the damaged frames (right at the head shot) and heard there were some photo-analysts who were trying to restore the original film. Results are amazing and excellent quality film. THANKS for the posting. If only Clint Hill had jumped toward the car 2 seconds sooner. Also, seems to show that the limo driver hit the breaks just before the final shot. Very sobering images....
@jeenormus He knew Kennedy had been shot. His name is Clinton J. Hill and he was assingned to protect Jackie. He is seen on the back of the Limo in the Zapruder and Nix Films "pushing" her back into the car.
@SecretService80 >>"He knew Kennedy had been shot. His name is Clinton J. Hill and he was assingned to protect Jackie. He is seen on the back of the Limo in the Zapruder and Nix Films "pushing" her back into the car."<<
He didn't push her back, he might have thought she was trying to crawl off the back and reached out to her but she was reaching to get a piece of JFK's skull that had flown off on impact. As soon as she grabs it she pulls back into the car.
Timecode 0:08 watch the guy in the red shirt on the steps reacting to Kennedy's headshot. That's the main clue as to the timing of the shot, since the distance is too far to capture the red spray on the Zapruder film. He instantly puts his hands up in a "NO" expression of disbelief.
There's a SLIGHT white cloud visible at 0:07, for a split second, hard to make out on this film. That's the headshot. The delayed timing to the headshot is normal. 0:07, headshot. 0:08, crowd reaction.
Here's a question that no one seemed to have asked!
If Lee Oswald acted alone, if he had such a great hatred for JFK, if he was a nut as everybody made him out to be, why didn't he boast to killing JFK? For someone who felt so low and had such a poor image of himself (again, the mainstream media made him that way), killing the president would have made him a huge star, turned him into the "man who killed the president all by himself"!
His "patsy" comment was in context with his "They (police) have taken me in because of the fact I've lived in the Soviet Union" ...and NOTHING ELSE!
No one believes he had an intense hatred for JFK...as Michael Paine said the night Oswald was killed "He probably wanted to make a mark on society and it suddenly occured to him that he could" or Ruth Paine (same night), "He suddenly had the chance to no longer be a little guy, but someone extraordinary"
Your point being, what? If Michael Paine said "He probably wanted to make a mark on society and it suddenly occurred to him that he could" or Ruth Paine (same night), "He suddenly had the chance to no longer be a little guy, but someone extraordinary", then...WHY DIDN'T OSWALD BOAST TO KILLING JFK?
Why didn't he boast?....WHY?!?!?! To ensure that he gets the electric chair as soon as possible?
brav0wing ...Why do you ask THAT question? Why not consider the more important...If he was a patsy, why didn't he blurt out any details (even vaguely) of the plot? After all he was paraded around the media repeatedly (even given a PRESS CONFERENCE!) up until the evening of the 23rd. Instead of his claiming he "didn't know what anything was about"?
That's because he was a patsy who probably didn't know much about anything, probably never held a gun that day! Or probably because he was afraid for his life, kinda opposite to the image of an Oswald who lost everything in life and wanted to make an impact to be remember, don't you think?
The most important question remains: WHY DIDN'T HE BOAST TO KILLING JFK IF HE WANTED TO MAKE SUCH A BIG IMPACT IN AMERICAN HISTORY?
Oh, yeah, by Ruby who's waiting on line making a Western Union telegram posting 4 MINUTES before killing Oswald (with the ORIGINAL TIME-STAMPED INVOICE IN THE POSSESSION OF WESTERN UNION)...yeah Ruby, with his friggin' DOG waiting in the car for him....Ruby, the only hitman in history (or even in the movies) to try to silence someone with a single shot to the BELLY!
You want to breath REASON into a distorted mind, as if assassinating someone can be reasoned by a distorted mind's motive.
JFK was anti-Castro....Oswald launched this pathetic one person chapter for the Fair Play For Cuba Committee...think of Oswald for a second....he goes from the US to Russia back to the US, then wants to send his wife back to USSR, then wants to go to Cuba or back to USSR...that's why I mentioned the Paine interviews...this aside from the General Walker attempt on 4/10/63.
How do you merely brush off the ironclad evidence showing Ruby making a moneygram 4 MINUTES before shooting Oswald, when no hitman would get into position 1 minute before (and not even knowing when Oswald was coming), no hitman would commit the act with ZERO chance to escape and no hitman would try to silence someone with a single shot to the STOMACH!
Being in USSR is not a motive to arrest someone, (well in those days might have been, but why wasn't he arrested before?).
There is no clear motive for his crime, there is no real motive for him not to admit his guilt. And also i can accuse you of not liking my explanations because are not anti-conspiracy!
Who's saying "being in the USSR is not a motive to arrest someone"?....only OSWALD claiming he was a "patsy" for living there. AGAIN the only context when he stated that.
And really, what was this desire do you think Oswald had to admit killing JFK (and Tippet) to ENSURE he get's the electric chair?
Why in world there are you ASTONISHED that a captured and cornered criminal says "I didn't do it" ...WHY?
I love your "one-size fits all" view of a psychological profile, but of course this is built on what YOU BELIEVE it to be, without regard to any individuality.
I guess you haven't heard the Paine's being interviewed the evening Oswald was killed (no fault of yours, no conspiracy theorists would dare to put it one Youtube and if someone else did, they'd scream "Copyright Violation!" and have it pulled.)... "He treated everyone with scorn...and like to put himself in a position of belligerence"
There is much to be investigated about Oswald profile, I'm willing to accept the Truth (whatever might that be) on the basis of a real investigation on Oswald's psychological profile, his real motives, his real reasons!
You have quoted 2 people that said that Oswald felt small and whatnot, answer me please...why didn't he boast to killing JFK if he felt so small, so low, had such a poor image of himself, if he felt he fucked up his life and felt that he was a nobody?
Yep, just ignore the only 2 people, other than his wife Marina, that had intimidate contact with him before the assassination.
As seriously, why BOAST? To what end? For the electric chair? Or do what HE DID and just deny the gun ownership, the Neely St photos and everything inbetween and try to avoid being EXECUTED? It's bad enough to try to read a distorted mind, but your being silly with that.
As to your comment: "His "patsy" comment was in context with his "They (police) have taken me in because of the fact I've lived in the Soviet Union" ...and NOTHING ELSE!"
Of course he said than in regards to being accused of killing JFK and Tippet! Patsy to what? Stealing an icecream from a kid?
that old man with the red shirt coming down the steps shot him...he was in love with marilyn monroe and kennedy took her away from him...so he said enough was enough! bang!..go ahead kennedy!..make my day!
Nosé si alguien habia dicho la teoria que voy a decir, a mi parecer los disparos fueron realizados por los choferes y el acompañante....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Por eso la mujer de JFK mira con sospechas al acompañante y quiere bajar del auto!
In case anyone hasn't noticed, connelly and his wife are missing. are they on the floor of the limo? the people on the lawn in front of the knoll are missing. the person supposed to be mary moorman is actually looking down. at 0:03 their raincoats are normal. from 0:05 on, they jet out as if windblown. and why do they have on raincoats anyway!!! it was a clear warm fall day. all jfk assasination footage is fake. all of it.
Mabe not fake, but over the years & in government hands are the one's you need & All the other's Have been changed in some way or form. When is the next Big offical Investigation to happen in JFK, RKF, MLK,9/11 Roswell, NEVER because the TRUTH will distroy a lot of businesess that are make Million's of dollars. That's what I Think anyway. My opinion How many Doco's are out here on all these subject's, if you have any cash start a doco, post it on U-tube & it will sell.
@thePRfirm No, Connally and his wife are not missing, you just can't see them. They are in the film. There were no people on the lawn in front of the knoll. Mary Moorman is looking into her viewfinder, and snaps her polaroid photo. The wind, which officer Marrion Baker testified "almost knocked him off his bike" at one point, was blowing in a south eastern direction that day. They have raincoats on because it was 68 degrees, and was raining that morning. No, the films are not "fake".
Interesting how your "wind" was strong enough to visibly flap a raincoat yet not be able to wave the flags on the front of the limo (or anyone's hair, for that matter) Photos clearly show people on the knoll which does not match the film. And why is Mary's friend Jeane looking down? She did not have a camera - and according to eyewitness and her own admission she stepped into the street to wave, which this fake film does not show.
@thePRfirm Yea? You aren't looking closely. JFK's hair is moving, as he travels down Elm, which you can clearly see in the frames just before the head shot, watching an enhanced version of the film. That you can't see the flags on the limo flapping as it travels down Elm Street proves that you are naive. Jean Hill is not "looking down". You are, though.
You are somehow both boring and stupid, which is typical for a tweener generation shill. Jean isn't waving. That's the point. The photos don't match the film. That's the point. Do you want me to draw you a picture? If wind was gusting and swirling that much it would be evident; the flags would be straight out, the last two frames they barely flutter (due to the motion of the car). Your yes/no answers confirm your duplicity. You know nothing about film and less about real life
@thePRfirm "You are somehow both boring and stupid". I see that you can't be civil in your responses. Par for the course, when it comes to conspiracy buffs. We don't know when Hill or Moorman waved/yelled at the president. I have difficult time believing anything Hill said anyway, since she lied so much. The wind was not blowing hard enough to cause the flags to stick straight out, nor was the car traveling fast enough to cause this. You'd better learn the facts about that day.
@thePRfirm Interesting. You call me "boring and stupid", yet found it necessary to send me a message, calling me a "shill". It is also very interesting that you don't address my question regarding which pictures "show people on the knoll, that do not show up in the film", as you say. Instead, you interject with more nonsense and name calling. Par for the course.
I have a life and successful business, so I don't live online like you. And your continued avoidance of essential points proves you're a total shill. Calling an eyewitness a liar proves your stupidity. You were'nt there, so you can't say for sure. In terms of being civil, you called me naive and questioned my intelligence on comments made a year ago! I will post links to alternate vids that feature the pics, but the photos can easily be googled. In short, get a life, gramps.
@thePRfirm Who are you calling "gramps", gramps? I don't "live online" anymore than you do. Jean Hill is a liar, which I can definitely say "for sure" was proven by her eyewitness account--on film--within 2 hours of the assassination, compared to what she said in the 90's, when she jumped onto the conspiracy bandwagon, and changed her story. You have obviously NOT studied this case, or you would know this.
I am aware of all that disinfo propaganda - and I am aware of who disseminated it. If you owned the photos you claim to, you would notice that the crowd on elm in front of the depository is mostly female and afro-american. Your precious fake films show a distinctly different crowd. You would know THAT, if you were not a total shill. But you really have no idea what's going on, I'm sure. Look up shill (Yiddish shillaber) in any dictionary. And gramps means you're old, dummy.
@thePRfirm I know EXACTLY what you meant by "gramps", gramps, and, no i am not "old", nor am I a "dummy". "Dummy" fits anyone who follows the insanity of Jack White or Jim Fetzer. Period. Since you recommended I watch a 6 part film clip featuring Jack White, this means that you are,among other things, a total "dummy"! Enlighten us to the photographers names which you claim show a different crowd in front of the depository, as compared to those "fake" films. Names?
You are a sad, lonely waste of time. The good news is it will all be over soon, huh grandpa? Why did you put the word old in quotations? How old do you think you are? Your overuse of commas and quotations reveals your OCD and dissociative disorder. I also notice you didn't comment on not being a shill! Thanks for proving my point, dummy. BTW, I will post several links for you to view so you can shut up and leave me alone. This is NOT human contact. I'm not your friend.
@thePRfirm (Cont.) I already own copies of the films and most of the photographs taken before, during and after the shooting. None of the photos or films taken during the assassination reveal any people on the knoll, other than the 3 men standing on the steps leading to the pergola. You are just wrong, but do not want to admit it. Now, *you* "get a life, gramps"!
@thePRfirm By the way...what "photos" are you referring to that show "people on the knoll which does not match the film"? Please point them out to me.
I've just come back from Texas where I visited Dealy Plaza. It is striking how small of an area it is. The knoll is not that high of a hill; it's only about 20 feet or so above Elm St. Also the museum on the sith floor of the former Book Depository is well done, but run by American Airlines (of all entities). It's $13.50 admission and you aren't supposed to take pictures because they want you to buy their books. The Kennedy assassination is a part of American history. It doesn't belong to AA.
That almost made me puke. I'm desensitized to the Zapruder film, but seeing that cloud of brain matter flying up and landing on the motorcyclist is just terrible. Poor man...I hope his brain was destroyed immediately, before he could feel the pain of having his scalp ripped off.
BTW, look at that guy swing his head around to stare at the knoll. Right afterwards, dozens ran up the hill after the shooter.
Basic human instinct dictates that you chase down any attacker in your vicinity.
Dude, picture it in your mind. Someone goes crazy right next to you. You are surrounded by a crowd of other people. Are you going to jump on top of the person, or run in the opposite direction? Unless you are a massive coward, you are going to jump on top of the person to subdue him. Basic survival of the pack. If you are *alone*...well, that's a different story.
yea, that's what u want to think. but from the 2-3 seconds u see him turn and take a big step, all that u are saying is not at all obvious. the only obvious thing is that he wants to get the hell out of harms way.!
0:06 The man on the left clearly reacts to what he sees. His whole body convulses and his brain attempts to process the facts his eyes have just witnessed. The man in the middle shows almost no reaction. The man on the right is the most interesting of the three. His body reacts in accordance with the sound he has heard. You can see that he flinches to his left (screen right) and steps as if move toward the sound - is body language is very assertive.
MrDrBalls 1 week ago
Look at Mary Mooremen. The lady in the blue jacket. If you watch the zapruder and this film several things come up. She has the best angle for the headshot. Jackie is all over JFK because of the throat shot.This headshot might haven't been far away at all. The CIA was training women at this time and who would suspect a woman assassin? In the Zapruder she is holding the camera almost rested on her shoulder and look at her feet stance almost like a standing rifle position.
MegaEyesofblue 3 weeks ago
Hiding in the trunk?!!! I hope you get help for your hallucination disorder.
mikiestar11 3 weeks ago
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The only thing I want to know is : WHO KILL JFK ans WHY ? I dont care about number of shots. WHO kill this man and WHY ?
Thank you.
RAREpicture 1 month ago
Kennedy was shot from someone hiding inside the trunk. That is the only way he and Connally could have been in line. The other shooters were to make noise to frame Oswald. The shooters then changed the angle so he would not hit anyone else in the car. You can see frame 313 the bullet going upwards about ten degrees from center exiting. Look at frame 313 on Harris video. This rules out everyone else. They do not want you to know shooter was in the trunk, because it means the government did it
tubeyou9878 2 months ago
The dark guy in the black pants and cardigan on the steps (next to Emmet Hudson) has been speculated to be with the African-American woman and baby seen at the inside corner of the wall at the top of the steps (by witness Marilyn Sitzman - who was standing with Abraham Zapruder). There are photos on the net of the couple and baby at the wall, minutes after the assassination. The woman and child are strong candidates to be the Blackdogman shape seen in the Willis and Moorman photos.
Pihasanddunes1 2 months ago
holy shit people are dumb.those guys see his head explode and run.if the shots came from behind them they would have run forward.
MrGuitartramp 4 months ago
@MrGuitartramp Not if they're one of them.
Dikwerf 1 month ago
Unlike most of the people who comment here, I have stood on those stairs, and stood behind the picket fence, it is less than 15 feet from the fence to the three men, do you notice how none of them turn to see where the shot came from?, because no shot came from the knoll, NONE!, any person standing there with a rifle/gun would have been seen by more than a few people.
svanderson78 5 months ago
JESUS CHRIST GOD OF ALMIGHTY SHIT! HOW CAN THIS BE THEY BOTH LOOOK LIKE GODDAMN ***REPTILIANS***
inspectorcritic 8 months ago
someone has all the footage and
pgruben 9 months ago
George bush senior killed JFK - the last real president.
TheSheeplealarmclock 9 months ago
@TheSheeplealarmclock
Pretty sure he'd be too young at that time to even wield a gun. :/
papoj1PVR 5 months ago
@papoj1PVR Wat HE WAS ABOUT 40 THEN?
TheSheeplealarmclock 5 months ago
@papoj1PVR Senior kid senior.
TheSheeplealarmclock 5 months ago
Oswald Acted Alone!!!!!
steved8878 9 months ago
You can clearly see from here that the entry of the fatal shot came from the front.
TheHockeyCentral 10 months ago
To me, the film clearly shows, that the fatal shot had to have been from the Knoll area. So, there was a conspiracy. It's all a sad tale, he was ambushed, by a triangulation of fire. And the secret service were completely unreliable. Even if their superior told them not to move, as bullets started flying, they should've over ruled him, and done something. Or at least tried.
1450famtreesearch 10 months ago
The MAN IN RED with two others on steps
pulls back loader then crouch aims, fires
and gun goes back up his sleeve. Mechanical
device pulls it back in. Then see Mark Bell video,
everyone chases them up stairs !!!!!!!!!!
frankzakzak 11 months ago
THE SHOT WAS ON 0:06
TheNic1997 1 year ago
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TheNic1997 1 year ago
Is this idiot IwshIcldstrtover still trying to argue with me? What a pathetic, wierdo shut-in.
thePRfirm 1 year ago
@thePRfirm Then shut up, stupid! You are the person who became defensive the moment I posted a response to your first comment. All I was doing was responding to some of the things you said, and you went on the defense. You ask stupid questions, then, when someone responds to them with answers you don't like, this is the end result. You start the name calling, and want to argue, not me. GROW UP!
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
watch youtube.com/watch?v=dvLW3IBHHvA - parts 1-6
thePRfirm 1 year ago
@thePRfirm It figures. You follow the complete insanity of Jack White, who was shown to be nothing but a fool during his testimony before the House Select Committee on Assassinations, in 1978. His and Jim Fetzer's(another conspiracy nutcase) nonsense regarding the Moorman photograph has been successfully debunked by several other highly respected researchers. Anyone who takes Jack White or Jim Fetzer seriously, aren't playing with a full deck!
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
@IwshIcldstrtover
assassinationscience(dot)com/johncostella/jfk/intro/blur.html
mcadams.posc.mu(dot)edu/dealey.htm
Fetzer and White are published, have credibility/credentials and recorded media. what do you have, bitch?
thePRfirm 1 year ago
@thePRfirm Wouldn't you like to know?
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
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kermit368 1 year ago
Well it definately looks like the guy in the red shirt on the steps hand jumps up at the same time the head shot is delivered as if it was the recoil of a gun . Also looks like he has something in his hand .
Videowatcher76 1 year ago
Odd, before Mrs. Kennedy was even out of her seat, Clint Hill was at the limo. "LongLiveOx" noticed it, too that in the Zapruder Film, Hill doesn't even reach the limo until Mrs. Kennedy is sprawled on the trunk, then he jumps, misses, jumps again, and gets on the bumper.
SecretService80 1 year ago
@SecretService80 I believe they removed frames. I won't go as far as to say both films are totally fake. but im pretty sure they moved frames around. it does seem odd.
MickeyMorandini1 1 year ago
@MickeyMorandini1 There's something fishy about it for sure. It doesn't look like any trick of the camera...
SecretService80 1 year ago
Boy, you know I just noticed for the first time, Clint Hill started running towards the car, right after the head shot. He was RIGHT THERE; he appears to touch the back of the car, yet Jackie is still seated. In the Zapruder film, you don't see that. In that film, it isn't until Jackie is up on the trunk, that you see Hill there. There's definitely some strange things that have gone on with this case. Anyone who doesn't see that, is just delusional.
LongLiveOx 1 year ago
back and to the left.... back and to the left!
nholt 1 year ago
Thums up, if you think the guy in the red shirt did it!
blungo99 1 year ago
@blungo99 The guy in the red shirt is applauding, not holding a gun.
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
the funny thing about the three men on the steps is that the one with the hat is clearly not reacting to the fatal shot....he's just standing there, easy lol
ShakenVodka 1 year ago
ahhhh. the famous babushka ladie. She was holding a camera.... that video would be priceless...
KadajSouba 1 year ago
This poor man on the bike.
norwegiangangsta 1 year ago
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Oswald did it. The evidence is overwhelming.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
I could swear that the guy to Hudson´s left is a black man.
aspie25 1 year ago
i dont think its the guy in the red shirt hes clapping i think but the one to th right looks dam shifty to me..
aifammafiaaifam 2 years ago
theres a guy in red shirt shooting, a black pistol ,can even see the recoil , dam
bfjn03 2 years ago
@bfjn03 I agree...and everybody keeps parroting this same crap that the press tells them...he is recoiling from shock....HE SHOT HIM!...IS THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD SO STUPID? CAN'T ANYONE SEE? IT IS AS PLAIN AS DAY! .. THE GUY IN THE RED SHIRT IS ONE OF THE SHOOTERS!
odysseus96 1 year ago
@odysseus96
If this guy is the shooter so you must be the most inelligent guy in the world. Both assumption are very unlikely...
captainkavern 1 year ago
@bfjn03 Yep - fairly obvious. one shot. who is that guy.
sydfan526 1 year ago
Emmett Joseph Hudson ,,,who are the other two guys any ideas?
aifammafiaaifam 2 years ago
Nobody knows who they are they never appeared or testified at de Warren Comission
tarkus223 2 years ago
@tarkus223 yah... kinda late but sevral "hobos" were seen getting off the train, but were never actually interogated by police, they claimed to be hobo's jumping a train, but they had on fresh clean clothes, and were completely groomed
nightwolfst 1 year ago
just a observation the guy on the steps to the right[i no nothink about them]but does he look like hes putting his hand in pocket raising his hand and back in pocket ...he turns around and leaves the area before the limo has gone past seems strange on then on the nix film hes half way up the steps and gone...the crowd seem to gather on the steps..............he was fast on leaveing when everybody else was standing still his hand is up at the bang of thegun..just an observation ...
aifammafiaaifam 2 years ago
One of these three men at the steps (wearing a cup) is known: a grondskeeper called Emmett Hudson.
tarkus223 2 years ago
@tarkus223
I'm almost afraid to ask this but, how do you know he was wearing a cup?
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
I had always seen the Muchmore film with the damaged frames (right at the head shot) and heard there were some photo-analysts who were trying to restore the original film. Results are amazing and excellent quality film. THANKS for the posting. If only Clint Hill had jumped toward the car 2 seconds sooner. Also, seems to show that the limo driver hit the breaks just before the final shot. Very sobering images....
DKetch1966 2 years ago
what about the agent who was running before the shot was heard mmmm
jeenormus 2 years ago
well hed already been shot once and quite often people edit sound in for docos nd even some news broadcats
metru2222 2 years ago
@jeenormus He knew Kennedy had been shot. His name is Clinton J. Hill and he was assingned to protect Jackie. He is seen on the back of the Limo in the Zapruder and Nix Films "pushing" her back into the car.
SecretService80 1 year ago
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@SecretService80 >>"He knew Kennedy had been shot. His name is Clinton J. Hill and he was assingned to protect Jackie. He is seen on the back of the Limo in the Zapruder and Nix Films "pushing" her back into the car."<<
He didn't push her back, he might have thought she was trying to crawl off the back and reached out to her but she was reaching to get a piece of JFK's skull that had flown off on impact. As soon as she grabs it she pulls back into the car.
teddysalad65 1 year ago
Timecode 0:08 watch the guy in the red shirt on the steps reacting to Kennedy's headshot. That's the main clue as to the timing of the shot, since the distance is too far to capture the red spray on the Zapruder film. He instantly puts his hands up in a "NO" expression of disbelief.
There's a SLIGHT white cloud visible at 0:07, for a split second, hard to make out on this film. That's the headshot. The delayed timing to the headshot is normal. 0:07, headshot. 0:08, crowd reaction.
JFKReloaded167 2 years ago
Did anyone notice that there is no spray of red blood upwards from his head as you see in the Zapruder film?
arrowz12 2 years ago
Here's a question that no one seemed to have asked!
If Lee Oswald acted alone, if he had such a great hatred for JFK, if he was a nut as everybody made him out to be, why didn't he boast to killing JFK? For someone who felt so low and had such a poor image of himself (again, the mainstream media made him that way), killing the president would have made him a huge star, turned him into the "man who killed the president all by himself"!
Why say he was a patsy, to what end?
brav0wing 2 years ago
"Why say he was a patsy, to what end?"
His "patsy" comment was in context with his "They (police) have taken me in because of the fact I've lived in the Soviet Union" ...and NOTHING ELSE!
No one believes he had an intense hatred for JFK...as Michael Paine said the night Oswald was killed "He probably wanted to make a mark on society and it suddenly occured to him that he could" or Ruth Paine (same night), "He suddenly had the chance to no longer be a little guy, but someone extraordinary"
pajasa62 2 years ago
Your point being, what? If Michael Paine said "He probably wanted to make a mark on society and it suddenly occurred to him that he could" or Ruth Paine (same night), "He suddenly had the chance to no longer be a little guy, but someone extraordinary", then...WHY DIDN'T OSWALD BOAST TO KILLING JFK?
brav0wing 2 years ago
Why didn't he boast?....WHY?!?!?! To ensure that he gets the electric chair as soon as possible?
brav0wing ...Why do you ask THAT question? Why not consider the more important...If he was a patsy, why didn't he blurt out any details (even vaguely) of the plot? After all he was paraded around the media repeatedly (even given a PRESS CONFERENCE!) up until the evening of the 23rd. Instead of his claiming he "didn't know what anything was about"?
THAT's what you should be asking.
pajasa62 2 years ago
That's because he was a patsy who probably didn't know much about anything, probably never held a gun that day! Or probably because he was afraid for his life, kinda opposite to the image of an Oswald who lost everything in life and wanted to make an impact to be remember, don't you think?
The most important question remains: WHY DIDN'T HE BOAST TO KILLING JFK IF HE WANTED TO MAKE SUCH A BIG IMPACT IN AMERICAN HISTORY?
brav0wing 2 years ago
Nobody has an answer to this question! Because everybody made him a nut, a loose cannon who felt small!
For someone who felt that small, boasting and admitting to killing JFK, would have made him a huge star!
brav0wing 2 years ago
And need I remind you THAT OSWALD WAS KILLED ALSO!
brav0wing 2 years ago
Oh, yeah, by Ruby who's waiting on line making a Western Union telegram posting 4 MINUTES before killing Oswald (with the ORIGINAL TIME-STAMPED INVOICE IN THE POSSESSION OF WESTERN UNION)...yeah Ruby, with his friggin' DOG waiting in the car for him....Ruby, the only hitman in history (or even in the movies) to try to silence someone with a single shot to the BELLY!
pajasa62 2 years ago
Oh, yes, by Ruby, for the reason you've just stated!
You still avoid my question!
brav0wing 2 years ago
"Oh, yes, by Ruby, for the reason you've just stated!"
Geez, THAT comment you'll have to explain.
And what "avoiding question"? Other than the MIND READING one with my answer that you don't like because it's not pro-conspiracy.
pajasa62 2 years ago
The reason you've just stated are perfect for someone to shoot Oswald without casting any doubt!
Is not that your views are not pro-conspiracy, is that all these things said about Oswald are superficial and illogical.
No one gave a clear motive for him killing the president, no one gave any real motive for him not to admit to his crime. All are pure conjecture!
Why did he killed the president, why didn't he admit to his crime.
brav0wing 2 years ago
You want to breath REASON into a distorted mind, as if assassinating someone can be reasoned by a distorted mind's motive.
JFK was anti-Castro....Oswald launched this pathetic one person chapter for the Fair Play For Cuba Committee...think of Oswald for a second....he goes from the US to Russia back to the US, then wants to send his wife back to USSR, then wants to go to Cuba or back to USSR...that's why I mentioned the Paine interviews...this aside from the General Walker attempt on 4/10/63.
pajasa62 2 years ago
How do you merely brush off the ironclad evidence showing Ruby making a moneygram 4 MINUTES before shooting Oswald, when no hitman would get into position 1 minute before (and not even knowing when Oswald was coming), no hitman would commit the act with ZERO chance to escape and no hitman would try to silence someone with a single shot to the STOMACH!
pajasa62 2 years ago
Being in USSR is not a motive to arrest someone, (well in those days might have been, but why wasn't he arrested before?).
There is no clear motive for his crime, there is no real motive for him not to admit his guilt. And also i can accuse you of not liking my explanations because are not anti-conspiracy!
brav0wing 2 years ago
Who's saying "being in the USSR is not a motive to arrest someone"?....only OSWALD claiming he was a "patsy" for living there. AGAIN the only context when he stated that.
And really, what was this desire do you think Oswald had to admit killing JFK (and Tippet) to ENSURE he get's the electric chair?
Why in world there are you ASTONISHED that a captured and cornered criminal says "I didn't do it" ...WHY?
pajasa62 2 years ago
Why am I ASTONISHED that a capture and cornered criminal says he didn't do it?
BECAUSE IT CONTRADICTS HIS PROFILE MADE BY EVERYONE INCLUDING THE PAINE'S!
It is direct contradiction to his psychological profile!
brav0wing 2 years ago
I love your "one-size fits all" view of a psychological profile, but of course this is built on what YOU BELIEVE it to be, without regard to any individuality.
I guess you haven't heard the Paine's being interviewed the evening Oswald was killed (no fault of yours, no conspiracy theorists would dare to put it one Youtube and if someone else did, they'd scream "Copyright Violation!" and have it pulled.)... "He treated everyone with scorn...and like to put himself in a position of belligerence"
pajasa62 2 years ago
There is much to be investigated about Oswald profile, I'm willing to accept the Truth (whatever might that be) on the basis of a real investigation on Oswald's psychological profile, his real motives, his real reasons!
For now, I don't buy them! And that's that!
brav0wing 2 years ago
You have quoted 2 people that said that Oswald felt small and whatnot, answer me please...why didn't he boast to killing JFK if he felt so small, so low, had such a poor image of himself, if he felt he fucked up his life and felt that he was a nobody?
brav0wing 2 years ago
Yep, just ignore the only 2 people, other than his wife Marina, that had intimidate contact with him before the assassination.
As seriously, why BOAST? To what end? For the electric chair? Or do what HE DID and just deny the gun ownership, the Neely St photos and everything inbetween and try to avoid being EXECUTED? It's bad enough to try to read a distorted mind, but your being silly with that.
pajasa62 2 years ago
As to your comment: "His "patsy" comment was in context with his "They (police) have taken me in because of the fact I've lived in the Soviet Union" ...and NOTHING ELSE!"
Of course he said than in regards to being accused of killing JFK and Tippet! Patsy to what? Stealing an icecream from a kid?
brav0wing 2 years ago
You're simply ignoring..."because of the fact I've lived in the Soviet Union" !!!!!
pajasa62 2 years ago
This is the best Muchmore film of JFK's assassination i have seen!
From what i can gather here, at the moment of the impact there is no forward movement of JFK's head, only a big spray of brain matter blown forward!
brav0wing 2 years ago
what the hell is the babushka lady all it it is a fucked up women from my point of view
cbay11 2 years ago
no he doesn't. he turns his head and looks down at the place he is going to put his foot. he is running the hell out of there!
CT2507 2 years ago
that old man with the red shirt coming down the steps shot him...he was in love with marilyn monroe and kennedy took her away from him...so he said enough was enough! bang!..go ahead kennedy!..make my day!
jedimind30 2 years ago
the coats on both women are like frozen in one direction...why is that??
jamesgambino 2 years ago
the wind was blowing in that direction
CI5Argentina 2 years ago
There was a breeze.
grumpytosnowwhite 2 years ago
There is reason why the person(s) are dressed in bright orange and jet black: so they could stand out as the coordinated the time of shots
RestoringAmerica2010 2 years ago
ur an idiot man
jamesgambino 2 years ago
Nosé si alguien habia dicho la teoria que voy a decir, a mi parecer los disparos fueron realizados por los choferes y el acompañante....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Por eso la mujer de JFK mira con sospechas al acompañante y quiere bajar del auto!
amielem 2 years ago
In case anyone hasn't noticed, connelly and his wife are missing. are they on the floor of the limo? the people on the lawn in front of the knoll are missing. the person supposed to be mary moorman is actually looking down. at 0:03 their raincoats are normal. from 0:05 on, they jet out as if windblown. and why do they have on raincoats anyway!!! it was a clear warm fall day. all jfk assasination footage is fake. all of it.
thePRfirm 2 years ago 2
Mabe not fake, but over the years & in government hands are the one's you need & All the other's Have been changed in some way or form. When is the next Big offical Investigation to happen in JFK, RKF, MLK,9/11 Roswell, NEVER because the TRUTH will distroy a lot of businesess that are make Million's of dollars. That's what I Think anyway. My opinion How many Doco's are out here on all these subject's, if you have any cash start a doco, post it on U-tube & it will sell.
7071t6 2 years ago
@thePRfirm No, Connally and his wife are not missing, you just can't see them. They are in the film. There were no people on the lawn in front of the knoll. Mary Moorman is looking into her viewfinder, and snaps her polaroid photo. The wind, which officer Marrion Baker testified "almost knocked him off his bike" at one point, was blowing in a south eastern direction that day. They have raincoats on because it was 68 degrees, and was raining that morning. No, the films are not "fake".
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
@IwshIcldstrtover
Interesting how your "wind" was strong enough to visibly flap a raincoat yet not be able to wave the flags on the front of the limo (or anyone's hair, for that matter) Photos clearly show people on the knoll which does not match the film. And why is Mary's friend Jeane looking down? She did not have a camera - and according to eyewitness and her own admission she stepped into the street to wave, which this fake film does not show.
thePRfirm 1 year ago
@thePRfirm Yea? You aren't looking closely. JFK's hair is moving, as he travels down Elm, which you can clearly see in the frames just before the head shot, watching an enhanced version of the film. That you can't see the flags on the limo flapping as it travels down Elm Street proves that you are naive. Jean Hill is not "looking down". You are, though.
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
@IwshIcldstrtover
You are somehow both boring and stupid, which is typical for a tweener generation shill. Jean isn't waving. That's the point. The photos don't match the film. That's the point. Do you want me to draw you a picture? If wind was gusting and swirling that much it would be evident; the flags would be straight out, the last two frames they barely flutter (due to the motion of the car). Your yes/no answers confirm your duplicity. You know nothing about film and less about real life
thePRfirm 1 year ago
@thePRfirm "You are somehow both boring and stupid". I see that you can't be civil in your responses. Par for the course, when it comes to conspiracy buffs. We don't know when Hill or Moorman waved/yelled at the president. I have difficult time believing anything Hill said anyway, since she lied so much. The wind was not blowing hard enough to cause the flags to stick straight out, nor was the car traveling fast enough to cause this. You'd better learn the facts about that day.
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
@thePRfirm Interesting. You call me "boring and stupid", yet found it necessary to send me a message, calling me a "shill". It is also very interesting that you don't address my question regarding which pictures "show people on the knoll, that do not show up in the film", as you say. Instead, you interject with more nonsense and name calling. Par for the course.
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
@IwshIcldstrtover
I have a life and successful business, so I don't live online like you. And your continued avoidance of essential points proves you're a total shill. Calling an eyewitness a liar proves your stupidity. You were'nt there, so you can't say for sure. In terms of being civil, you called me naive and questioned my intelligence on comments made a year ago! I will post links to alternate vids that feature the pics, but the photos can easily be googled. In short, get a life, gramps.
thePRfirm 1 year ago
@thePRfirm Who are you calling "gramps", gramps? I don't "live online" anymore than you do. Jean Hill is a liar, which I can definitely say "for sure" was proven by her eyewitness account--on film--within 2 hours of the assassination, compared to what she said in the 90's, when she jumped onto the conspiracy bandwagon, and changed her story. You have obviously NOT studied this case, or you would know this.
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
@IwshIcldstrtover
I am aware of all that disinfo propaganda - and I am aware of who disseminated it. If you owned the photos you claim to, you would notice that the crowd on elm in front of the depository is mostly female and afro-american. Your precious fake films show a distinctly different crowd. You would know THAT, if you were not a total shill. But you really have no idea what's going on, I'm sure. Look up shill (Yiddish shillaber) in any dictionary. And gramps means you're old, dummy.
thePRfirm 1 year ago
@thePRfirm I know EXACTLY what you meant by "gramps", gramps, and, no i am not "old", nor am I a "dummy". "Dummy" fits anyone who follows the insanity of Jack White or Jim Fetzer. Period. Since you recommended I watch a 6 part film clip featuring Jack White, this means that you are,among other things, a total "dummy"! Enlighten us to the photographers names which you claim show a different crowd in front of the depository, as compared to those "fake" films. Names?
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
@IwshIcldstrtover
You are a sad, lonely waste of time. The good news is it will all be over soon, huh grandpa? Why did you put the word old in quotations? How old do you think you are? Your overuse of commas and quotations reveals your OCD and dissociative disorder. I also notice you didn't comment on not being a shill! Thanks for proving my point, dummy. BTW, I will post several links for you to view so you can shut up and leave me alone. This is NOT human contact. I'm not your friend.
thePRfirm 1 year ago
@thePRfirm Then shut up, stupid!
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
@thePRfirm (Cont.) I already own copies of the films and most of the photographs taken before, during and after the shooting. None of the photos or films taken during the assassination reveal any people on the knoll, other than the 3 men standing on the steps leading to the pergola. You are just wrong, but do not want to admit it. Now, *you* "get a life, gramps"!
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
@thePRfirm By the way...what "photos" are you referring to that show "people on the knoll which does not match the film"? Please point them out to me.
IwshIcldstrtover 1 year ago
I've just come back from Texas where I visited Dealy Plaza. It is striking how small of an area it is. The knoll is not that high of a hill; it's only about 20 feet or so above Elm St. Also the museum on the sith floor of the former Book Depository is well done, but run by American Airlines (of all entities). It's $13.50 admission and you aren't supposed to take pictures because they want you to buy their books. The Kennedy assassination is a part of American history. It doesn't belong to AA.
bapyou 2 years ago
That almost made me puke. I'm desensitized to the Zapruder film, but seeing that cloud of brain matter flying up and landing on the motorcyclist is just terrible. Poor man...I hope his brain was destroyed immediately, before he could feel the pain of having his scalp ripped off.
BTW, look at that guy swing his head around to stare at the knoll. Right afterwards, dozens ran up the hill after the shooter.
Basic human instinct dictates that you chase down any attacker in your vicinity.
grumpytosnowwhite 2 years ago
basic human instincts says run for cover first...
CT2507 2 years ago
Dude, picture it in your mind. Someone goes crazy right next to you. You are surrounded by a crowd of other people. Are you going to jump on top of the person, or run in the opposite direction? Unless you are a massive coward, you are going to jump on top of the person to subdue him. Basic survival of the pack. If you are *alone*...well, that's a different story.
grumpytosnowwhite 2 years ago
yea, that's what u want to think. but from the 2-3 seconds u see him turn and take a big step, all that u are saying is not at all obvious. the only obvious thing is that he wants to get the hell out of harms way.!
CT2507 2 years ago
The number of people on the steps differs in other videos.
stracenerdanny 3 years ago
It's the smoking gun!
swignanomous 3 years ago
Yeah, he's holding a gun. What are you, retarded?
sudaev 3 years ago
is it just me or does the man in red on the steps appear to be holding a gun?
thirdlair 3 years ago
nahh i think he saw the final shot and took his hand out to signal that the driver should know something was wrong. its like a reflex.
wendel88 3 years ago 2
It's more likely he was just saying "HOLY CRAP," or something to that effect.
It's a stretch to believe there we a gunman behind the fence.
It would be plain ridiculous to believe there was one standing right out in the open--in a red shirt, no less.
UdallIn72 3 years ago 2
That guy in red is just reacting normally to a shocking sight : he just saw a human being get his HEAD BLOWN OFF !!
ERASERHEAD18 3 years ago 8
exactly
corydwalker 3 years ago 2