What? The damage looks very realistic, I'll say, but no physical damage? Why have people been hating on GT5 for it's damage models if all that's missing is a few paint scratches? Can someone clear this up for me? I'm confused why the damage in Forza is hailed to be way, way, way better than GT5's! Fprza's looks better but it's not something seriously wrong with GT5 if this here is all that's missing.
Lol, All I ask for is ONE Forza 3 or GT5 video where in the comments there not compared to eachother, A forza 3/GT5 Video Isn't made to get into a huge ass fight about which games better.
Your fucking stupid. Car companies don't let their cars be beatin to shit. Besides this game is a racing game not a fucking demolishin derby game. You play to RACE not crash. The car companies not letting their cars be destroyed is the reason why Split Second uses fictional cars so they can beat the hell out of them however they want to.
@JLB101XD Totally agree, The Forza series was never about smash ups, in fact it used to annoy me how in most cases one small accident would remove any hope of first place. There are some great games out there for paying smash ups, stick to Forza for racing and keeping it on the track.
Gt5 is better than fm3 becauase they have alot more things that u can do than forza... they got rally races,just races,driving lincesed test,drag races,and im freaking nascar in there to,but in fm3 u can only race and drag race and if thats not enough then gt5 has freaking 950+ cars and the graphics are way better and the weather changes during a race and they have people that u can see like change the tires of a nascar and fixing the car and gt5 has a better cockpit view,and theres more...
The damage is pretty shit on Forza; a minor bump on the side of the car and that's it, the whole side of the car is scratched up and dented in, it's so dumb.
"170 of them will be "premium" models that feature full interior modeling that is affected by vehicle damage"
Half finish game if you ask me THE reason i dint know abut this its because they add this after they Comfirm no Damage they add this in the last min to compet whit Forza3 yet only 170 cars will be affected sad VERY SAD :'(
There are full fledged race cars that will feature full cosmetic damage, all other cars will feature minor damage similar to Froza's car scratchs, and all cars can have the option of simulation damage. And it wasn't a last minute thing, considering that video was uploaded in August of last year. Just quit talking if you don't know any facts, fuck.
Marcos, please stop talking, your embarrassing yourself.
Damage has been confirmed for like 2 years now, and all that PD is saying is that all cars will have damage similar to forza 3, and non-production cars like race cars will have full damage (doors getting torn off).
So your making fun of PD for releasing a better game than Forza? Are you really that stupid?
car companies don't want their cars in a game to get damaged crazy or torned up. other driving sim would have about the same dam like forza. Games like gta4 and burnout have full dam because the cars don't exist, they designed it themselves to actual cars.
come on people this guy is right do not down thumb him. car companies will charge the company more to use their cars in the game if it is 100% realistic (e.g. damage, wear & tear rate, appearence)
Nope, its the game in general. There are forums all over the internet complaining about the shotty damage. It is funny how people argue this even after looking at video footage of the crappy damage system lol.
@lethal1980 If you put damage on Simulation then your car will become less easy to drive and you'll notice other problems such as the car leaning to the right, terrible control and most importantly - loss of speed and acceleration. The problem is I don't think you can have simulation on a xbox live match.
Get a life, guys! Stop trying to convince each other if the game is good or not. Each of us have different opinions, so live and let live! None of you need to post any of your criticising crap here...
no offence "FORZA" fans, but... this game sucks swetty ball sacks, damage sucks ass, go in reverse and crash into a car, paint scratches only happen, same with need for speed shift, bumpers come off and hoods and in trailers the whole cars torn up to bits and even in demo but for ps3 they made it look like shit! they only focus on how realistic! but not the effect! i bought a game for $84 dollars so i can get rare cars and smash the hell out of it, but i get this bullshit?wow... still like NFS
It's people like you who are ruining these simulations. If you want to crash cars go play Burnout. Both Turn10 and PD shouldn't waste valuable resources appeasing people like you, who just want to run the cars into the wall. Neither company is going to give you real simulation damage because the processing power and programming required is simply too much. Wait till next generation before you get all bent out of shape.
Why the fuck did Turn10 leave out the option to turn off damage entirely!? Hitting cars is pretty much unavoidable in the game so you're telling me I have to just accept the fact that my cars are going to look like shit ALL the time???
For a game that focuses so much on the aesthetic of the real cars, to leave out this option is fucking dumb as shit. Thanks Turn10, you've nearly ruined this game for me.
So wait, let me get this straight, you say that Turn 10 has ruined a game by you not being able to not crash into the rest of the cars in a race? Wow, god help the person that goes driving in your car.
If you're trying to tell me it was a good idea to leave out the option to turn off visual damage entirely your an idiot. It's easy to program into a game and almost every other game has it. To simply not allow you the option is unforgivable and downright stupid. Maybe if the damage, which was a fucking marketing gimmick to begin with, didn't look like shit I wouldn't be complaining.
Don't get me wrong, everything else about this game is amazing, excluding the ridiculous contrast on the cars which they STILL haven't fixed even though this is their third go. Turn10 seriously needs some better artists...
I've got the full game. Maybe there's no damagae because you put it on "cosmetic"? that's a no brainer I would have thought. In the full game there is a higher option that lets you damage your engine axle, etc
Listen, don't try to defend yourself. You were wrong, and it ends there. Don't try to make it look like you were right, it looks pathetic. No one cares if you got it wrong, don't be ignorant.
You are such a retard.......Put the game on simulation is how the car handles after the damage you damn idiot. Cosmetic is physical appearance. You are such a damn noob.
Cosmetic is just Physical. Simulation (and whatever else it says) is Everything. Performance and Physical. Don't call me a dumbass over a game, because you're just sounding ridiculous.
Cosmetic doesn't show body damage, just paint. Hence the word "Cosmetic" the only thing that matters damage wise is performance damage, and Forza has covered that extremely well.
See, just like murdock said. Does it really matter what the damage looks like? You don't play games such as Forza OR GT to crash cars. As long as it has good cars, graphics and good gameplay its a good game. A game isn't a piece of shit just because you think the PHYSICAL damage is crap. Does it matter? You don't even see ur car when ur driving anyway. Just relax, you're blowing it all out of proportion. the way u r acting makes me think that u r a bias fanboy.
See this is the best bit. When two people resolve a dispute and learn to respect eachother's views. It's ashame not much can be said about other people *cough* lethal *cough*
And btw. There was SOME body damage evident here. Cosmetic IS body damage aswell, but not as much as simulation. Simulation is the full package, INLUDING performance damage which is THE MOST IMPORTANT type of damage.
Is it because my argument is valid? and the only thing oyu can ocme up with, in your defense, is that I'm the stupid one? If I were so stupid, then why are you not replying (directly) to my comment? Is it because I'm right? And you want to end the 'argument'?
K24, nothing you say is valid. For instance.......Look when I barely bump the wall. Now look at all the scratches on the hood. Where the hell did those come from? You do not even know the difference between cosmetic and simulation lol.
Lol Simulation is Physical damage as well. Simulation involves every bit of damage you can receive (physical and performance)
Cosmetic is mild damage but no performance damage. I think I know, I actually have the game and enjoy playing it, so my comments aren't as bias as yours.
I don't care what happens when you "barely bump" the wall. I'm not the creator of the game. I'm just trying to explain to you the difference between "Simulation" and "Cosmetic".
Jeez, I don't know what's so hard for you to understand. I've said it so many times. I don't care if you made a mistake because you didn't know what "Cosmetic" meant. No one cares, stop being so defensive about it, just accept it and leave it alone.
You just amuse me because you are dead wrong lol. There are thousands of sites of people complaining about the damage and you think that simulation will show more cosmetic damage lol. It is funny how stupid people can be and that you actually convinced yourself that you are correct.
If I'm wrong, then please explain to me what cosmetic is and what simulation is. All you keep saying is that Im "dead wrong", why don't you tell me why I am wrong?
Once again I repeat: "I don't care what happens when you "barely bump" the wall. I'm not the creator of the game. I'm just trying to explain to you the difference between "Simulation" and "Cosmetic"."
Didn't I already tell you to learn to read first? I know that the damage is lacking compared to other games, that is not my concern. I'm just trying to explain to you what the difference between "Cosmetic" and Simulation" is, because you seem to be a little confused. Maybe if you weren't so stuck up and in denial, you would understand. You sound pathetic, whining to me like I produced the game. I couldn't care less what the damage was like.
Ummm, actually.....you tried telling me that changing the game to simulation would produce more cosmetic damage. This entire time myself and others have been telling you that simulation has nothing to do with cosmetic damage. And this entire youtube video is about the cosmetic damage lacking. Welcom to the topic of this video.....
The damage is lacking in the game that you played because the setting is on "Cosmetic" That is not how the real damage is in the game.
what happened to explaining what the difference is between "Cosmetic" and "Simulation"?
This video isn't about the *cosmetic* damage lacking. It's about you thinking that the damage is lacking in the game, even tohugh you didn't know what "cosmetic" damage was.
Simulation damage - All the visual damage + Mechanical damage.
He just wants his car to appear smashed up, not to perform it and so he is just critizing the visual damage and how flying into a wall results in scuffs and slightly misshapen bumpers.
Wow, I don't even remember my argument... Way to go. I don't even play this game anymore. Haven't played it for some time. My comment isn't even on the first page of the comments section
"Cosmetic is mild damage but no performance damage. I think I know, I actually have the game and enjoy playing it, so my comments aren't as bias as yours."
Considering how much you defended the game saying you don't play it anymore after 2 months makes you seem like a fanboy who just defended it as its for your console. sorry, now im kinda just picking a fight but thats the impression i got.
But no, you were blaming him saying that the damage wasn't good because it was on Cosmetic so the car didnt appear smashed up & he was saying that they only damage he wanted was visual..ah fack it, i dont care & i dont think you do either
dude..the game is alright...okay..i like it...but even i can say the damage is fucking retarded........i mean the cosmetic damage......because i have hit a wall head on...and sure....im unable tyo continue...but sometimes...all i see is a few scratches on the hood...IF THAT...but the gameplay is good. but IMO......the game was "OVER-Hyped"
I think the damage isn't at all that bad. It's not that scripted, as you recieve damage only in the placed you get hit. I agree though that sometimes you only get scratches, but you can't expect a game, in today's times, to hold so much reality. Its not like we are so advanced that we can rpelicate real life so easily. You shouldn't have such high expectations.
Turn 10 put its focus,and the console's capability, into the graphics and gameplay/realism. The game is a HUGE game memory wise. The disc just won't have enough room for everything you want in a racing game. On the other hand Dirt really focused on the damage, and they nailed it pretty well for a game made in these days.
you are such a fucking FAG turn damage to simulation you dumbface, when the damage is on cosmetic all you can do is get some scratches, fuck these people are stupid
you can turn damage to simulation, so that the damage is more realistic, than the bumpers will fly of your engine will overheat, the gearbox will break down and windows will fly out, so if you want to see some real damage download the forza 3 demo, set damage to simulation and see it for yourself
yes, mostly, but you don't really notice, because when you are racing you never get some serious damage except, some scraped paint, you really have to try to some serious damage, by hitting a wall with 236 MPH (400 KPH) with a Bugatti Veyron XD
you say the game has excelent damage, and i say the game doesnt have realistic simulation damage, fool, learn what im talking about before you reply, and most of the damage is small tiny dents even if you go 70MPH and hit another car, flip over, and slam into the rail
the does have simulation damage actually, when you rev to high your engine will blow, and if you shift wrong when using manual with clutch, you will break your gearbox and if you race an endurance race and don't go to the pits to change your tires your tires will come off.
in GT 3&4 (5 Prolouge) there were pit section in which you drive into to fix up your car but it took time to fix it and most of the time you would be in 3 or 4th place if you were in first
o god, you really don't have Forza 3 don't you, forza 3 has pits aswell, and if you drive an endurance race, you are going to need them, after a little while you will need to or repair engine damage and swap tires, and even the AI goes into the pits for new tires, you will be in last place when you go into the pits, but after a while, the AI will need to do a pit stop aswell
i forgot to say that the full game, also has internal damage, when you turn shifting to manual, and you rev it to max in a car with no rev-limiter, you will blow up the engine, and shifting without using the clutch will slowly break the clutch
"licensed cars", thats sad, manufacturers want games to use their cars in them, including damage, like GT 5, which is realistic damage, so anyone who drives the car and likes it might buy it
lol you really have to shut up because you don't even have the full game, or do you?, the damage is very realistic in the full game, and i know it because GOT THE FULL GAME
wow, you really need to learn, i ahve the full game btw, and the damage only applies to SOME of the cars dumbass, and i played the GT 5 demo at E3, and the damage on GT 5 is realistic, not on forza, and burnout has realistic damage
i don't know what kind of version you have of forza 3, but all the cars i have tested so far have excellent damage, so tell me which cars have no damage
i carnt waittill forza 3 comes out. BUT and its a big but why carnt they make the damage in the game realistic?
i know when i say this ome of you are goin to say im wrong but i think ONE of the best games ive played for damage is grand theft auto. not 100% realstic i know but at least their trying in that game.
N o no I'm not bashing it. I love Forza 3 and Forza 2 and I'm definatly buying it. I just think compared to what it could be (hint hint: Race driver Grid) it's not amazing.. Thats all..
I was really hoping the damage would be better than this.. it looks the same as forza2! If the damage was anything like GTA IV i would be more than happy.. and everyone... Cosmetic and Simulation have THE SAME VISUAL DAMAGE!
Ummm ya. Use the same car as the one in the video and you will see the same results. You know simulation means like tire wear and engine right? Cosmetic means it shows all the physical damage....
Exactly. If I drive in to a wall at 75mph, there is going to be more than just paint damage. Fenders should fall off, bumper should fall off right away. The video clearly shows the damage sucks.
Which is why I believe that damage does not better a driving game; it just adds a pointless feature to captivate those who don't even like racing games, and bring about pointless flame-wars not even associated with the purpose of the game in mind; DRIVING.
But when there is a damage SYSTEM which makes you drive more poorly they should have a designated damage physics system. Why should my car lean to the right because I scratched some paint from my car? Yeah. Oh and bye the way, the nice makers of this game promised REALISTIC DAMAGE. Now how realistic is it to lose paint on your hood if you tap a car in front of you at 5 miles per hour?
@remix91742, Damage is an important component to driving games.
Drivers need to have the understanding that there are CONSEQUENCES (damage/crash) to driving mishaps. Car trouble can manifest from reckless driving including under-the-hood issues and tire wear. The need to fix vehicles using GT/Forza credits will create better drivers. It ultimately gives the user a better overall driving EXPERIENCE.
@remix91742, Lack of CONSEQUENCES (damage/crash) reinforces the idea that all out aggressive driving is proper. Users would be more cautious knowing that reckless driving isnt key to success.
Exactly, since there technically isn't "REALISTIC" damage in both GT5 or FM3, then there isn't much realism at all since its a supposedly crucial element to the entire "simulation" experience.
See, looking at damage in retrospect on a video game and making it physically real; your aiming really high. So as I said earlier, Damage in a video game is no more than a gimick/pointless feature, so why add it? They should do what GT5p did, add speed penalties for reckless driving, End of Story.
and your a retard, the cosmetic damage and realistic damage varies by cars, and that means the game didn't put alot of effort to adding damage like in Forza 2
EXACTLY, GT5 has damage in its simulator, as in actual damage, not fake paint scratches, and that is GT5 PROLOGE** Hint, and i've already played the game at E3 09
Need For Speed Shift was released before and all cars have REALISTIC damage, not just paint scratches, and the damage in the game is a fail, you hit a wall going over 60 MPH and only get a tiny lil dent or scratch
Speaking of long loading
TheMostafa1011 1 year ago
GT5 has the best damage once you level up
Rulerzigzagzig 1 year ago
damage=Simulation, you have it on cosmetic
etnecivv 1 year ago
What? The damage looks very realistic, I'll say, but no physical damage? Why have people been hating on GT5 for it's damage models if all that's missing is a few paint scratches? Can someone clear this up for me? I'm confused why the damage in Forza is hailed to be way, way, way better than GT5's! Fprza's looks better but it's not something seriously wrong with GT5 if this here is all that's missing.
GT5 - Simulation Racer
FM - Arcade racer with realistic elements.
DONT COMPARE THE TWO!
UNSKIALz 1 year ago
Looks good to me.
BillGates1337 1 year ago
Lol, All I ask for is ONE Forza 3 or GT5 video where in the comments there not compared to eachother, A forza 3/GT5 Video Isn't made to get into a huge ass fight about which games better.
ST4cKz0nD3cKk 1 year ago
@ST4cKz0nD3cKk you are so fcking right!
i'm so sick about ppl arguing all the times which game is better,
if you thonk Forza 3 is better, you play that, keep it 4 urself
if you like gt5 more, play gt5
then everyone is happy, and no-one will bother you 4 playing ur game!
2PacForLife007 1 year ago
fuck simulation mode, try gran turismo 5 mode.
yourdad132 1 year ago
GT5 now has real time damage :D
TAKE THAT MICROSOFT!
Anoush13 1 year ago
that'll buff out
FoxhoundJay 1 year ago
loll at the 36 second load screen HAHAHA go llook at gt5 load times there way faster.
Ebzey 1 year ago
Since when do ferrari's have metal panels? Exotic super cars like these are generally composed of carbon fiber monocoque's...
moparful99 1 year ago
Your fucking stupid. Car companies don't let their cars be beatin to shit. Besides this game is a racing game not a fucking demolishin derby game. You play to RACE not crash. The car companies not letting their cars be destroyed is the reason why Split Second uses fictional cars so they can beat the hell out of them however they want to.
JLB101XD 1 year ago
@JLB101XD Totally agree, The Forza series was never about smash ups, in fact it used to annoy me how in most cases one small accident would remove any hope of first place. There are some great games out there for paying smash ups, stick to Forza for racing and keeping it on the track.
Booya9272 1 year ago
you idiot
everyone knows that ferrari's are made of diamonds. thats why they are so expensive
dillzy1986 1 year ago
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Gt5 is better than fm3 becauase they have alot more things that u can do than forza... they got rally races,just races,driving lincesed test,drag races,and im freaking nascar in there to,but in fm3 u can only race and drag race and if thats not enough then gt5 has freaking 950+ cars and the graphics are way better and the weather changes during a race and they have people that u can see like change the tires of a nascar and fixing the car and gt5 has a better cockpit view,and theres more...
mrps3gt5 1 year ago
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bamop09 1 year ago
dude if u want to see physical damage in a game get dirt 2 or grid
airwave4722 1 year ago 6
The damage is pretty shit on Forza; a minor bump on the side of the car and that's it, the whole side of the car is scratched up and dented in, it's so dumb.
I tend not to crash though.
mrrmancunian 1 year ago
This is just the demo, anyway. None of the demo cars had physical damage if I recall.
NissanDriver15 2 years ago
well its stil better the GT5 where car dont brake ar all
marcos27pr 2 years ago
1) Learn to spell
2) Yes, GT5 cars can take damage, certain cars, far more than Forza.
gtsomething 2 years ago
1) NO GT5 dont have Damage if so send me a link to a video that show this
2) lern to reserch before you talk
marcos27pr 2 years ago
Have you been living under a fucking rock? v=VtkBkfTot_I
Theres a video with damage, FROM AUGUST 2009, it's been much improved since then as well
Again, learn to spell, you fucking tool.
gtsomething 2 years ago
Info from Polyphony Digital
"170 of them will be "premium" models that feature full interior modeling that is affected by vehicle damage"
Half finish game if you ask me THE reason i dint know abut this its because they add this after they Comfirm no Damage they add this in the last min to compet whit Forza3 yet only 170 cars will be affected sad VERY SAD :'(
marcos27pr 2 years ago
Again, do more research before you talk.
There are full fledged race cars that will feature full cosmetic damage, all other cars will feature minor damage similar to Froza's car scratchs, and all cars can have the option of simulation damage. And it wasn't a last minute thing, considering that video was uploaded in August of last year. Just quit talking if you don't know any facts, fuck.
gtsomething 2 years ago
Marcos, please stop talking, your embarrassing yourself.
Damage has been confirmed for like 2 years now, and all that PD is saying is that all cars will have damage similar to forza 3, and non-production cars like race cars will have full damage (doors getting torn off).
So your making fun of PD for releasing a better game than Forza? Are you really that stupid?
ANONYMUS1221 2 years ago
Meaning that only 170 out of 1000 Cars on GT5 will have Damage
marcos27pr 2 years ago
@marcos27pr
I'm done talking to you, clearly your being ignorant and stupid on purpose.
ANONYMUS1221 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA your telling people to research before talking?
If I were you I would follow my own advice.
sad...
ANONYMUS1221 2 years ago
as a long time gt player, i find the damage model great, i'm not complaining.
lemans24fan 2 years ago
dont you like forza 3 or not?????
hes making fun of it
SchoolGirl4427 2 years ago
you see?? you were braking!!!!! duh???
ucchiu23 2 years ago
90mph won't do the effect
ucchiu23 2 years ago
they do get physical damage it just hard you must bang a car several times before it get broken but its limites to bunper braking off
car companys dont allow actual phycal damage to the car
marcos27pr 2 years ago
thanks for telling them that. i'm sick of people complaining about it.
lemans24fan 2 years ago
ABS shouldn't be an assist
every car after 1965 has ABS as standard
KyuubiNaruto1337XD 2 years ago
in pgr 1 2 3 and 4 it has that and in FM3 it should have motorcycles like PGR4
IP0DSpree 2 years ago
car companies don't want their cars in a game to get damaged crazy or torned up. other driving sim would have about the same dam like forza. Games like gta4 and burnout have full dam because the cars don't exist, they designed it themselves to actual cars.
fuzzaun 2 years ago
The damage is set to cosmetic ur noob
holeks 2 years ago
is this a burn copy of the game?
Outlawsoccer18 2 years ago
read the description
MrKyle080905 2 years ago
DAMN xbox takes an age to load!
megaspeed2 2 years ago
his is probaly older mine goes 1-5 secs
VALVEGAMER20 2 years ago
At least learn how to crash!!!
MrFilthyHobo 2 years ago
@crankypsp LOLOLOLOLOL makes total sense dude :D
Driftking3268 2 years ago
car companies didnt give permission to show their vehicles destroyed to a higher extent. simple as that.
crankypsp 2 years ago
have you ever played GRID?
TjrAnimations 2 years ago
come on people this guy is right do not down thumb him. car companies will charge the company more to use their cars in the game if it is 100% realistic (e.g. damage, wear & tear rate, appearence)
megaspeed2 2 years ago 11
its just the way the game is designed its not made for purposely crashing
24linkinparkfan88 2 years ago
May be because you had it on easy? That might mean that they have less damage then so your car isn't -as-"fucked"...
david1991rules4life 2 years ago
Nope, its the game in general. There are forums all over the internet complaining about the shotty damage. It is funny how people argue this even after looking at video footage of the crappy damage system lol.
lethal1980 2 years ago 2
its not turn 10's problem. its the faggot car companies that don't want to show pixels being "damaged". go whine to them not turn 10.
Dillon1108 2 years ago
@lethal1980 If you put damage on Simulation then your car will become less easy to drive and you'll notice other problems such as the car leaning to the right, terrible control and most importantly - loss of speed and acceleration. The problem is I don't think you can have simulation on a xbox live match.
vibekette 1 year ago
@lethal1980 damage only cosmetic...
superyeyito 1 year ago
they should atleast have been able to make the cars damadge like in gta 4.
this damadge sucks ass. i was expecting damadge beter than gta4.
woofdawgg69 2 years ago
Get a life, guys! Stop trying to convince each other if the game is good or not. Each of us have different opinions, so live and let live! None of you need to post any of your criticising crap here...
aronmustang69 2 years ago
just get grid if you want good damage but this game look amazing im getting it...
rayd408 2 years ago
no offence "FORZA" fans, but... this game sucks swetty ball sacks, damage sucks ass, go in reverse and crash into a car, paint scratches only happen, same with need for speed shift, bumpers come off and hoods and in trailers the whole cars torn up to bits and even in demo but for ps3 they made it look like shit! they only focus on how realistic! but not the effect! i bought a game for $84 dollars so i can get rare cars and smash the hell out of it, but i get this bullshit?wow... still like NFS
nissan244 2 years ago
It's people like you who are ruining these simulations. If you want to crash cars go play Burnout. Both Turn10 and PD shouldn't waste valuable resources appeasing people like you, who just want to run the cars into the wall. Neither company is going to give you real simulation damage because the processing power and programming required is simply too much. Wait till next generation before you get all bent out of shape.
0murdock0 2 years ago
Why the fuck did Turn10 leave out the option to turn off damage entirely!? Hitting cars is pretty much unavoidable in the game so you're telling me I have to just accept the fact that my cars are going to look like shit ALL the time???
For a game that focuses so much on the aesthetic of the real cars, to leave out this option is fucking dumb as shit. Thanks Turn10, you've nearly ruined this game for me.
0murdock0 2 years ago
So wait, let me get this straight, you say that Turn 10 has ruined a game by you not being able to not crash into the rest of the cars in a race? Wow, god help the person that goes driving in your car.
HAWXF22 2 years ago
If you're trying to tell me it was a good idea to leave out the option to turn off visual damage entirely your an idiot. It's easy to program into a game and almost every other game has it. To simply not allow you the option is unforgivable and downright stupid. Maybe if the damage, which was a fucking marketing gimmick to begin with, didn't look like shit I wouldn't be complaining.
0murdock0 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, everything else about this game is amazing, excluding the ridiculous contrast on the cars which they STILL haven't fixed even though this is their third go. Turn10 seriously needs some better artists...
0murdock0 2 years ago
umh.. damage dont change..? but use simulation dude.. :D
suomirakion 2 years ago
I've got the full game. Maybe there's no damagae because you put it on "cosmetic"? that's a no brainer I would have thought. In the full game there is a higher option that lets you damage your engine axle, etc
K24Productions 2 years ago
lmfao! A no brainer knowing that cosmetic shows all PHYSICAL damage. I thought that was a no brainer........
lethal1980 2 years ago
Listen, don't try to defend yourself. You were wrong, and it ends there. Don't try to make it look like you were right, it looks pathetic. No one cares if you got it wrong, don't be ignorant.
K24Productions 2 years ago
You are such a retard.......Put the game on simulation is how the car handles after the damage you damn idiot. Cosmetic is physical appearance. You are such a damn noob.
lethal1980 2 years ago
Cosmetic is just Physical. Simulation (and whatever else it says) is Everything. Performance and Physical. Don't call me a dumbass over a game, because you're just sounding ridiculous.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Cosmetic doesn't show body damage, just paint. Hence the word "Cosmetic" the only thing that matters damage wise is performance damage, and Forza has covered that extremely well.
K24Productions 2 years ago
wrong, cosmetic, means damage but no damage to the way the car drives...
I just played this game expecting big things, and i am easily pleased!
What a dissapointment, ive been in many car crashes, and i tell you my car never comes away with some paint damage, utterly pathetic realism.
and the sound when u hit a wall...wtf??? sounds like bumper bowling.
the game is a peice of shit
dasicknt 2 years ago
See, just like murdock said. Does it really matter what the damage looks like? You don't play games such as Forza OR GT to crash cars. As long as it has good cars, graphics and good gameplay its a good game. A game isn't a piece of shit just because you think the PHYSICAL damage is crap. Does it matter? You don't even see ur car when ur driving anyway. Just relax, you're blowing it all out of proportion. the way u r acting makes me think that u r a bias fanboy.
K24Productions 2 years ago
actually you are right about it, i guess i was pissed because of the hype, im not a fanboy tho, in fact my PS3 isnt even plugged in.
might give the game another shot
dasicknt 2 years ago
See this is the best bit. When two people resolve a dispute and learn to respect eachother's views. It's ashame not much can be said about other people *cough* lethal *cough*
K24Productions 2 years ago
And btw. There was SOME body damage evident here. Cosmetic IS body damage aswell, but not as much as simulation. Simulation is the full package, INLUDING performance damage which is THE MOST IMPORTANT type of damage.
K24Productions 2 years ago
God damn you sound stupid. I am not even going to respond to your comments anymore.
lethal1980 2 years ago
How do I sound stupid? Please enlighten me.
Is it because my argument is valid? and the only thing oyu can ocme up with, in your defense, is that I'm the stupid one? If I were so stupid, then why are you not replying (directly) to my comment? Is it because I'm right? And you want to end the 'argument'?
K24Productions 2 years ago
K24, nothing you say is valid. For instance.......Look when I barely bump the wall. Now look at all the scratches on the hood. Where the hell did those come from? You do not even know the difference between cosmetic and simulation lol.
lethal1980 2 years ago
Lol Simulation is Physical damage as well. Simulation involves every bit of damage you can receive (physical and performance)
Cosmetic is mild damage but no performance damage. I think I know, I actually have the game and enjoy playing it, so my comments aren't as bias as yours.
I don't care what happens when you "barely bump" the wall. I'm not the creator of the game. I'm just trying to explain to you the difference between "Simulation" and "Cosmetic".
K24Productions 2 years ago
Jeez, I don't know what's so hard for you to understand. I've said it so many times. I don't care if you made a mistake because you didn't know what "Cosmetic" meant. No one cares, stop being so defensive about it, just accept it and leave it alone.
K24Productions 2 years ago
You just amuse me because you are dead wrong lol. There are thousands of sites of people complaining about the damage and you think that simulation will show more cosmetic damage lol. It is funny how stupid people can be and that you actually convinced yourself that you are correct.
lethal1980 2 years ago
Lol ok.
If I'm wrong, then please explain to me what cosmetic is and what simulation is. All you keep saying is that Im "dead wrong", why don't you tell me why I am wrong?
Once again I repeat: "I don't care what happens when you "barely bump" the wall. I'm not the creator of the game. I'm just trying to explain to you the difference between "Simulation" and "Cosmetic"."
K24Productions 2 years ago
Didn't I already tell you to learn to read first? I know that the damage is lacking compared to other games, that is not my concern. I'm just trying to explain to you what the difference between "Cosmetic" and Simulation" is, because you seem to be a little confused. Maybe if you weren't so stuck up and in denial, you would understand. You sound pathetic, whining to me like I produced the game. I couldn't care less what the damage was like.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Ummm, actually.....you tried telling me that changing the game to simulation would produce more cosmetic damage. This entire time myself and others have been telling you that simulation has nothing to do with cosmetic damage. And this entire youtube video is about the cosmetic damage lacking. Welcom to the topic of this video.....
lethal1980 2 years ago
The damage is lacking in the game that you played because the setting is on "Cosmetic" That is not how the real damage is in the game.
what happened to explaining what the difference is between "Cosmetic" and "Simulation"?
This video isn't about the *cosmetic* damage lacking. It's about you thinking that the damage is lacking in the game, even tohugh you didn't know what "cosmetic" damage was.
Welcom(e) to the topic of this video...(..)
K24Productions 2 years ago
Cosmetic damage - All the visual damage
Simulation damage - All the visual damage + Mechanical damage.
He just wants his car to appear smashed up, not to perform it and so he is just critizing the visual damage and how flying into a wall results in scuffs and slightly misshapen bumpers.
JEEZ WAS THAT SO BLOODY HARD!?
olivera182 2 years ago
Wow, I don't even remember my argument... Way to go. I don't even play this game anymore. Haven't played it for some time. My comment isn't even on the first page of the comments section
"Cosmetic is mild damage but no performance damage. I think I know, I actually have the game and enjoy playing it, so my comments aren't as bias as yours."
I just explained what you explained, so back off.
K24Productions 2 years ago
HA "back off"
Considering how much you defended the game saying you don't play it anymore after 2 months makes you seem like a fanboy who just defended it as its for your console. sorry, now im kinda just picking a fight but thats the impression i got.
But no, you were blaming him saying that the damage wasn't good because it was on Cosmetic so the car didnt appear smashed up & he was saying that they only damage he wanted was visual..ah fack it, i dont care & i dont think you do either
olivera182 2 years ago
I don't play racing games to mindlessly smash cars into walls and then feel some sense of fulfilment.
K24Productions 2 years ago
Cosmetic = Paint and MILD body damage
Simulation = Paint, Full body damage, full performance damage.
How many time will I have to repeat?
There was SOME body damage evident on your car.
But hell, what do I care. I like Forza, awesome game, i'll just go back to racing while you fume over the lack of damage. Have fun! I know I will ;)
K24Productions 2 years ago
Simulation means under the body.......steering, tire wear, etc..... I need a face palm smiley right now.
lethal1980 2 years ago
Simulation (and whatever else follows) is everything.
In the season play. When you put chrash damage on "simulation" (the last option) it is ever bit of damage you can receive.
K24Productions 2 years ago
This seems about right. Cosmetic is on, and mild damage is evident. Don't know what you are ocmplaining about.
K24Productions 2 years ago
dude..the game is alright...okay..i like it...but even i can say the damage is fucking retarded........i mean the cosmetic damage......because i have hit a wall head on...and sure....im unable tyo continue...but sometimes...all i see is a few scratches on the hood...IF THAT...but the gameplay is good. but IMO......the game was "OVER-Hyped"
calfan3 2 years ago
I think the damage isn't at all that bad. It's not that scripted, as you recieve damage only in the placed you get hit. I agree though that sometimes you only get scratches, but you can't expect a game, in today's times, to hold so much reality. Its not like we are so advanced that we can rpelicate real life so easily. You shouldn't have such high expectations.
K24Productions 2 years ago
well..i mean..i realize that...but look at dirt's damage.........i cant believe turn10 isnt capable of doing that.
calfan3 2 years ago
Turn 10 put its focus,and the console's capability, into the graphics and gameplay/realism. The game is a HUGE game memory wise. The disc just won't have enough room for everything you want in a racing game. On the other hand Dirt really focused on the damage, and they nailed it pretty well for a game made in these days.
K24Productions 2 years ago
i have the game
suomirakion 2 years ago
you are such a fucking FAG turn damage to simulation you dumbface, when the damage is on cosmetic all you can do is get some scratches, fuck these people are stupid
xentro01 2 years ago
Forza 2s damage sent bumpers soaring through the air, WTF happened to Forza 3?
Kh501pr 2 years ago
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you are so fucking stupid, he turned damage to cosmetic, instead of simulation, the damage is like the word says COSMETIC
xentro01 2 years ago
i think they have better damage in forza 2 then this haha
heyitstheo47 2 years ago
you are so fucking stupid, he turned damage to cosmetic, instead of simulation, the damage is like the word says COSMETIC
xentro01 2 years ago
why the fuck don't you think a bit before you respond to people's comments acting like a fucking schmuck
of course its only cosmetic damage
in forza 2 bumper's flew off and the body do deformed from the crashes
now all that gets messed up is the paint
so stop acting like a retard and making assumptions before you even know what going on
heyitstheo47 2 years ago 2
you can turn damage to simulation, so that the damage is more realistic, than the bumpers will fly of your engine will overheat, the gearbox will break down and windows will fly out, so if you want to see some real damage download the forza 3 demo, set damage to simulation and see it for yourself
xentro01 2 years ago
i did but the cosmetic damage stays the same only on the other cars does it get more realistic
heyitstheo47 2 years ago
lol i don't what version you have of Forza 3 but my LMCE has some excellent damage :P
xentro01 2 years ago
i have the demo
heyitstheo47 2 years ago
well there you go...
xentro01 2 years ago
so the damage is better in the full game?
heyitstheo47 2 years ago
yes, mostly, but you don't really notice, because when you are racing you never get some serious damage except, some scraped paint, you really have to try to some serious damage, by hitting a wall with 236 MPH (400 KPH) with a Bugatti Veyron XD
xentro01 2 years ago 2
you say the game has excelent damage, and i say the game doesnt have realistic simulation damage, fool, learn what im talking about before you reply, and most of the damage is small tiny dents even if you go 70MPH and hit another car, flip over, and slam into the rail
LamHoangVo 2 years ago
the does have simulation damage actually, when you rev to high your engine will blow, and if you shift wrong when using manual with clutch, you will break your gearbox and if you race an endurance race and don't go to the pits to change your tires your tires will come off.
xentro01 2 years ago
in GT 3&4 (5 Prolouge) there were pit section in which you drive into to fix up your car but it took time to fix it and most of the time you would be in 3 or 4th place if you were in first
LamHoangVo 2 years ago
o god, you really don't have Forza 3 don't you, forza 3 has pits aswell, and if you drive an endurance race, you are going to need them, after a little while you will need to or repair engine damage and swap tires, and even the AI goes into the pits for new tires, you will be in last place when you go into the pits, but after a while, the AI will need to do a pit stop aswell
xentro01 2 years ago
i forgot to say that the full game, also has internal damage, when you turn shifting to manual, and you rev it to max in a car with no rev-limiter, you will blow up the engine, and shifting without using the clutch will slowly break the clutch
xentro01 2 years ago
gta 4 and nfs shift = best damage
menofat1 2 years ago
u try to make a car simulation game with licensed cars with the awsome damage u expect!!!!!
ericstranne 2 years ago
"licensed cars", thats sad, manufacturers want games to use their cars in them, including damage, like GT 5, which is realistic damage, so anyone who drives the car and likes it might buy it
LamHoangVo 2 years ago
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you are so fucking stupid, he turned damage to cosmetic, instead of simulation, the damage is like the word says COSMETIC
xentro01 2 years ago
lol you really have to shut up because you don't even have the full game, or do you?, the damage is very realistic in the full game, and i know it because GOT THE FULL GAME
xentro01 2 years ago
wow, you really need to learn, i ahve the full game btw, and the damage only applies to SOME of the cars dumbass, and i played the GT 5 demo at E3, and the damage on GT 5 is realistic, not on forza, and burnout has realistic damage
LamHoangVo 2 years ago
i don't know what kind of version you have of forza 3, but all the cars i have tested so far have excellent damage, so tell me which cars have no damage
xentro01 2 years ago
haha, nice
elroberto11 2 years ago
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xentro01 2 years ago
i carnt waittill forza 3 comes out. BUT and its a big but why carnt they make the damage in the game realistic?
i know when i say this ome of you are goin to say im wrong but i think ONE of the best games ive played for damage is grand theft auto. not 100% realstic i know but at least their trying in that game.
thats what i think any way
ashsbmwm3 2 years ago
NO! burnout paradise!!!!!!!!
ericstranne 2 years ago
damage in this game looks so.. heh... it just dosnt look like damage.. looks like a all cars in Forza 3 are batmobile indestructible models :D
Tvensky86 2 years ago
No cosmetic means whole body damage, Simulation just means engine, chassis, steering etc. damage. Forza 3 just has shitty crashing.
Maxmotor2009 2 years ago
I hate people who bash demos. Turn 10 tried to keep the demo as simple as possible, its not the final game!
OfficialForza3Cars 2 years ago
N o no I'm not bashing it. I love Forza 3 and Forza 2 and I'm definatly buying it. I just think compared to what it could be (hint hint: Race driver Grid) it's not amazing.. Thats all..
Maxmotor2009 2 years ago
GRID? that game is fucking arcade all the way. you cant compare grid and forza. its just not possible. forza is 10 times better.
IamArab1 2 years ago
I KNOW! iIM COMPARING THE CRASHING! not the whole game. I knoe Forza's better.
Maxmotor2009 2 years ago
i always thought this is a problam with forza but i watched some reveiws and the damage looks a lot better
TheCrazyDodsworth 2 years ago
dude it's because it's on COSMETIC.....which basically refers to "paint damage"....
morons think this game doesn't have realistic damage....
This vid is misleading
Slickster1991 2 years ago
Maybe small damage reason is only cosmetic damage?
Zaabiitis 2 years ago
lol @ loading times.
nnguyen1990 2 years ago 2
I was really hoping the damage would be better than this.. it looks the same as forza2! If the damage was anything like GTA IV i would be more than happy.. and everyone... Cosmetic and Simulation have THE SAME VISUAL DAMAGE!
jplecas 2 years ago 2
You put the damage on cosmetic and not simulation..
Mrbadboy333 2 years ago
Ya man I know this. Cosmetic should show all physical damage. Simulation looks the same. The damage sucks in the game.
lethal1980 2 years ago
and this damage is real? crazy fat monkey flop box fanboys... GROW UP!
Tvensky86 2 years ago 3
what a dumbass forza3 has damage put simulation and hit the wall at about 114mph and see if your car gets no damage i bet you'll flip over
chachito867 2 years ago
Pick the same car as the one I used. The damage is only paint scratches. Cosmetic shows all the physical damage still you dipshit.
lethal1980 2 years ago
Final Fantasy 8, hell yea!
jimmuh401 2 years ago
You do know what cosmetic means right?change it to simulation
BlackTitan666 2 years ago
Ummm ya. Use the same car as the one in the video and you will see the same results. You know simulation means like tire wear and engine right? Cosmetic means it shows all the physical damage....
lethal1980 2 years ago
are you saying that theres not enough cosmetic damage?
Qball914 2 years ago
Exactly. If I drive in to a wall at 75mph, there is going to be more than just paint damage. Fenders should fall off, bumper should fall off right away. The video clearly shows the damage sucks.
lethal1980 2 years ago
i agree, forza 2 had some pretty cool damage physics, im sure its just cuz of the demo.
Qball914 2 years ago
Which is why I believe that damage does not better a driving game; it just adds a pointless feature to captivate those who don't even like racing games, and bring about pointless flame-wars not even associated with the purpose of the game in mind; DRIVING.
Forza and GT5 should ditch damage all together..
remix91742 2 years ago
But when there is a damage SYSTEM which makes you drive more poorly they should have a designated damage physics system. Why should my car lean to the right because I scratched some paint from my car? Yeah. Oh and bye the way, the nice makers of this game promised REALISTIC DAMAGE. Now how realistic is it to lose paint on your hood if you tap a car in front of you at 5 miles per hour?
DeadCatStudios 2 years ago
@remix91742, Damage is an important component to driving games.
Drivers need to have the understanding that there are CONSEQUENCES (damage/crash) to driving mishaps. Car trouble can manifest from reckless driving including under-the-hood issues and tire wear. The need to fix vehicles using GT/Forza credits will create better drivers. It ultimately gives the user a better overall driving EXPERIENCE.
strawberryshort99 2 years ago
@remix91742, Lack of CONSEQUENCES (damage/crash) reinforces the idea that all out aggressive driving is proper. Users would be more cautious knowing that reckless driving isnt key to success.
strawberryshort99 2 years ago
Damage = realism. I want a real driving simulator. Why put half assed damage in the game? Do it right or do not do it at all.
lethal1980 2 years ago
Exactly, since there technically isn't "REALISTIC" damage in both GT5 or FM3, then there isn't much realism at all since its a supposedly crucial element to the entire "simulation" experience.
See, looking at damage in retrospect on a video game and making it physically real; your aiming really high. So as I said earlier, Damage in a video game is no more than a gimick/pointless feature, so why add it? They should do what GT5p did, add speed penalties for reckless driving, End of Story.
remix91742 2 years ago
Wait till GT5 releases before talking about the damage in the game.
lethal1980 2 years ago
this basically proves how halfassed Turn 10 is. they wasted 2 years. What do you get?
-Worse Damage!
prosoccer56 2 years ago
you are so fucking stupid, he turned damage to cosmetic, instead of simulation, the damage is like the word says COSMETIC
xentro01 2 years ago
and your a retard, the cosmetic damage and realistic damage varies by cars, and that means the game didn't put alot of effort to adding damage like in Forza 2
LamHoangVo 2 years ago
EXACTLY, GT5 has damage in its simulator, as in actual damage, not fake paint scratches, and that is GT5 PROLOGE** Hint, and i've already played the game at E3 09
LamHoangVo 2 years ago
it obly has damage on about a thjird of the cars due to licensing issues! wtf`? if u have damage, have it on all cars like forza!
ericstranne 2 years ago
Need For Speed Shift was released before and all cars have REALISTIC damage, not just paint scratches, and the damage in the game is a fail, you hit a wall going over 60 MPH and only get a tiny lil dent or scratch
LamHoangVo 2 years ago
hey dude and the guy in this vid also presses brake so he wont get damage watch the vid again
chachito867 2 years ago
Its only demo...
Loads is cumin up in full FM3
ziom919 2 years ago
Sure hope so, because this demo is garbage.
lethal1980 2 years ago
Im a bit dissapointed 2...
I dont like da cotpits view... I hope they gonna add something like seat regulations so i can see all the gauges...
its pissin me off that they wasted loads of money d just make one camera inside...
Nd that u canot rotate camera in da car...
Comon Turn 10!!!
ziom919 2 years ago
You can rotate camera in car, push the right stick forward first.
XRaCeProX 2 years ago
Sorry man... I cant call that rotation...
I wish the camreas were like in GT5P...
Its to clese to the weel nd i wish u coudl see all over inside of the cars...
comon turn 10 i belive in u!!!
ziom919 2 years ago
Cockpit camera should be like NFS Shift, you really feel the speed and turns. Those are the best.
XRaCeProX 2 years ago
fuck NFS...
Brichka14 2 years ago 2