Susan G. Komen vs. Planned Parenthood: The Choice of Politics Over Women's Health

[skolded1]

dude is stumbling through something about breast... abortion.. cancer.. and insurance... TAKE TWO!

[SparksterInc]

@skolded1 Think you can do better? Step up, hot shot.

[skolded1]

@SparksterInc

Hot shot? Me step up? How about you step down?

[SparksterInc]

@skolded1 How pithy. I'll take that as a no from you.

Thanks for watching this video.

[ENDRENOABORTION]

SPARKSTER-

You keep stating 'life saving' yet over 98% of abortions are for 'convenience'. There have been over 50000000 mllion abortions since RvW and over 49000000 of them ended the life out of simple convenience.

What about the rights of the baby ?

[SparksterInc]

@ENDRENOABORTION Abortion itself isn't the real issue here. We're talking about whether our money is used to fight cancer.

Does cancer care about your thoughts on abortion? No.

[ENDRENOABORTION]

@SparksterInc

Giving money to planned parenthood does not fight cancer. Giving money to planned parenthood pays for utilities and overhead which directly is used in abortion which has been scientifically proven to cause cancer.

There is no service that pp offers that is so-called life saving- screening etc that is not offered at other clinics that do not provide abortion- the fact of the matter is that planned parenthood is centered on one primary service which is abortion.

[SparksterInc]

@ENDRENOABORTION So did Planned Parenthood illegally use federal funds & Komen money to provide abortions? That's the real issue here & that's all I care about.

I'm not comfortable with abortions & you're outright opposed to it. But our thoughts on abortion are ultimately irrelevant.

[SillyBug852]

I agree with most of this. My only qualm is that I don't think politics are what divide us on simple issues like the ones your mentioned. I think it's simply greed and the other shittier aspects of human nature. Politics are just the medium. But it's the political players that are causing it, not politics itself. Although I pretty much hate politics too.

[wowoak]

good movie coming out soon in March, October Baby, check out the trailers here on youtube

[beancube2010]

When we don't have choice, our human dignity lost and our kids dignity also lost.

[wowoak]

@beancube2010 The "choice" to kill the unborn human may be legal, but how you can call that a dignified choice is beyond me. Women need to be strong and given the support they need to bring forth the life they have, not condemned for being pregnant. Most girls and women who chose abortion will tell you that they felt like they had no choice at all, pressured into something during this difficult time they did not want to do.

[beancube2010]

@wowoak Most girls and women who chose abortion will tell you that they felt like they had no choice at all, pressured into something during this difficult time they did not want to do.

I agree with the concern of the those situation. I would like that people to investigate the source of those pressure. Aren't they coming from Church the highest behind the scene?

[ENDRENOABORTION]

@beancube2010

You are wrong because 50% of all women who go in to get an abortion have had a previous abortion. I personally stand outside an abortion clinic and have seen grandparents and even husbands try to argue women out of their abortions.

The bottom line is that the victim is the child that will have its limbs severed with a currete vacuum and then be discarded like garbage- not the emotional state of the woman who decides to kill a son or daughter.

[beancube2010]

@wowoak Gods do abortions and kill pregnancy women in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan not mentioned by our gods like mass media. Where were we? Have we cut funding those Jewish gods and their churches?

[beancube2010]

They tried to corner women into those outdated box of churches, people should surge an uprising there and taking back all churches for women as well. Just go all the way into the box for women's rights to choose for all women in this country. Just call this movement the Susan G. Komen for Cure 2.0. If women don't rights to choose, women don't have any real cure; especially now that economy, religious, and politics should all be taken back for all women.

[nmecmbtnt]

I wish I could sift out the point from this rambling.

[jhorsager]

I agree with you. This should never have been politicized. And it doesn't even make sense because they just shot themselves in the foot and cut future donations in half all to make a political point. If they want to be political players they should start a SuperPAC, cutting women's access to breast cancer screening while claiming they want the opposite delegitimizes their entire mission and everything they claim to represent.

[MsMommaRose]

So which part do you disagree with? Men not getting a vote on women's reproductive issue, someone else's religious rules don't apply to those outside the religion, or that a clump of cells is only potentially a human being?

[SparksterInc]

@MsMommaRose If you must ask, the "clump of cells" part, to an extent. I don't think a human being is necessarily created upon fertilization. Even if so, it's just a "clump of cells" at first. But if the fetus becomes more "viable", then (in my opinion) it becomes more human. It's something I'm personally uncomfortable with, but I'm not saying women can't have abortions even at that point; if it's legal, then so be it.

Feel free to disagree w/my line of reasoning.

[MsMommaRose]

@SparksterInc I am not fond of thinking of my two children as "clumps of cells" either. I don't think they would like hearing it either. Oh well, they are all grown up now. When you want to be pregnant it is a "baby" from conception, when you don't it is a fetus/zygot. This is something for the pregnant woman (not mother) to decide. Mother is what you become after you give birth and you bring the baby home.

[wowoak]

@MsMommaRose So you tell me, which of your 2 fetuses would you have chosen to have if you had to abort one? And tell me something else, what is the latin word for "baby"?

[beancube2010]

@SparksterInc It seems to me that this is the same Jewish languages forcing some gods into those Hebrew fables for those so-called holy books.

[wiz9496]

@SparksterInc "it becomes more human"? What does that mean? Is there some magical force that is added to make it more human? "if the fetus becomes more'viable'". Even if left to be birthed, it's gonna take years before the baby can take care of itself.

It's really sad that people have to lie in order to keep the right to kill their baby. Why not just call it what it is: Murder.

[MsMommaRose]

No man had ever been pregnant. No man should have a say on abortion. This is a woman's choice. Religions all have various rules. These rules only apply to the people that willingly believe in that religion. A clump of cells with DNA that can potentially become a viable human being, is not a human being. A full grown adult woman with a breast cancer is a human being. A poor one has limited resources and because of this action, she now has one less.

[SparksterInc]

@MsMommaRose The poor will definitely suffer because of this. That we can agree on. Giving everyone access to essential health care shouldn't be a casualty because of our political disagreements.

[wowoak]

@SparksterInc but it IS political, don't you see that? There are other places poor women can go for mammograms. Sending them to Planned Parenthood, founded by a woman who believed that poor people should be eradicated, is a travesty. They deserve better.

[aStonedGuineaPig]

@MsMommaRose so your saying that a clump of cells is not something living? are you not a clump of cells?

[MsMommaRose]

@aStonedGuineaPig No I am not a clump of cells, i am fully developed human being that knows the difference between a human and tissue mass no larger than a pea. I also know that women contributed heavily to SGK and won't now. Money spent on contributions to Planned Parenthood.

[wowoak]

@MsMommaRose You do realize that Planned Parenthood is so under-regulated that no one actually knows what their money is being spent on right? That's one of the reasons they are being investigated, among allegations of child sex trafficking and misuse of funds. There are other places poor women could go for their mammograms. It is beyond me why the Komen foundation would give a penny to such an irresponsible organization.

[beancube2010]

@wowoak Who regulates Komen for Cure this time to cut funding. Who is irresponsible? Now, they reversed it but who are going to regulate them in the future? I don't see any and my donation goes to Planned Parenthood. Hope that my love. not my money, to Komen for Cure would help them remove those culprit infiltrators.

[aStonedGuineaPig]

@MsMommaRose im not going to argue with you. you feel way to strongly about your beliefs to have a rational argument

[ENDRENOABORTION]

@MsMommaRose

YOU too are just a clump of cells- but just like you an unborn baby has a heartbeat at just 18 days, 90% of all 1st trimester abortions involve a currette vacuum that severes limbs like arms and legs.

What about the rights of the baby. If you condone baby murder you are morally bankrupt.

Hope that helps.