I dnt understand how does yawning, being sleepy, or eating too much is related to this video..u ppl clearly did not understand what this video is about.. Stopp talkin about nonesense!!!
this najs 7aiwan (proudfemale) started saying "Quran and hadith have scientific errors." I was simply clarifying those "errors" she tried bringing up.
@pedophiliaakbarboom if you'll read the Quran, in verse (2:256): "There shall be no compulsion in religion." If you don't want to become a Muslim, that's your choice. Otherwise, don't pester people with your stupidity and childish name-calling, you filthy kafir swine.
Yawning is a negative feedback that decreases the predisposition of wanting to sleep.
Someone who may feel heavy or too lazy after over-eating, this causes a semi voluntary response to decrease the concentration of serotonin and noradrenaline.
Over-eating is the same as blindly following desires, leading to someone who may not want to fulfill religious obligations, such as the daily prayer.
[ Quran, 7:31] "...And eat and drink moderately; Surely, He does not love the gluttons."
[ Quran, 2:168 ] "... eat of what is on earth, Lawful and good; and do not follow the footsteps of the evil one, for he is to you an avowed enemy."
[ Book 4: Volume 54: Hadith 509, Narrated Abu Huraira ] : "Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you should say: 'Ha', SATAN WILL LAUGH AT HIM."
Tejatat Tejasen, Chairman of the Department of Anatomy, former Dean of the faculty of Medicine, University of Chiang Mai:
"In the last three years, I became interested in the Qur'an... From my studies and what I have learned throughout this conference, I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Qur'an fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means."
you IDIOT...much of whats in koran that is accurate WAS KNOWN by scientists/doctors well before koran
you ask him whether its the 'truth' that humans were once a blood clot, no fertilisation or ovum necessary, or that sperm is emitted from between backbone/ribs....or whether sun sets in muddy water LOL
even Bucaille admits koran is wrong
yes...scientists can be and have been wrong - what dont you understand about such basic facts and truths
Dr. Maurice Bucaille, former chief of the Surgical Clinic, University of Paris:
"...our knowledge of these disciplines is such, that it is impossible to explain how a text produced at the time of the Qur'an could have contained ideas that have only been discovered in modern times."
not so many years ago people didnt know much about islam, but with us LEARNING quite how repulsive/immoral/harmful it is 'experts' have proven that what is accurate in koran was ALREADY KNOWN/...they even say it plagiarises early greek literature and they prove it with evidence
and NO SCIENTIST will ever ever say 'mistakes' denote accuracy...you are DELUDING only yourself
WHY do you think non belief amongst muslims is GROWING RAPIDLY
can you refute the VAST MAJORITY of scientists totally refute the koran DUE TO mistaken beliefs included in it, then purported to be factual when theyre not
why dont you tell me then
-were you once a blood clot
-were you conceived without fertilisation/ovum
-does sperm form and emit from between backbone/ribs and from specifically WHERE
-does a child resemble whoever discharges first
-does sun set in muddy water
show me whether you have brains or balls and ANSWER the above
lets see if you limited mental capacity can comprehend that MUCH OF WHATS IN IT is accurate...and this is provable DUE TO what was already known/discovered well before it
so scientists are going to agree with that part
but WHAT scientist would ever say 'sun sets in muddy water, or that a human being was once a blood clot"???
you appear to have been left behind in the dust...
All the questions you brought up (ribs and backbone, sun set at muddy waters, blood clot) were addressed A MONTH AGO.
Go back a few pages and read the evidence I already posted.
As for the yawning, this isn't even in the Qur'an, but again, if the Prophet (pbuh) said it, then it's good enough for me, and there's still a scientific explanation for this over a thousand years ago, so I'll be courteous to clue you in.
Joe Leigh Simpson Professor and Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Baylor College of Medicine
"...In a relatively few verses is contained a rather comprehensive description of human development from the time of commingling of the gametes through organogenesis. No such distinct and complete record of human development such as classification, terminology, and description existed previously.
he is wrong...many many academics have PROVEN koran has earlier knowledge in it...e.g. the clinging aspect was known in the 4th century
WHY do todays academics/scientists reject it...even your Bucailled admits its wrong, and the KNOWN mistaken beliefs of that era being in it are WRITTEN PROOF that muslims are LIED TO
and remember, you were never a blood clot and it NEVER MENTIONS THE VERY BASICS OF FERTILISATION AND OVUM, and again we know why it doesnt ...its time you woke up
first prove an angel, then prove an allah before you continue to dribble your taught NONSENSE
and as a doctor do you think you will SEE angels breathing onto foetus LOL - and who cares if its in koran or not, much islamic NONSENSE isnt in the man made book.....yet muslims are INDOCTRINATED that its all true
Way to weasel your way out of the original merit, which was LIFE BEGINNING AT FERTILISATION.
Anyways, if Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) said it, then its good enough for me. There are also angels that carry out the punishments of in hell and serve the dwellers of Paradise, and there is the angel of death.
The statement about breathe onto foetus is not actually in the Quran.
purleeze...does human life begin with 'sperm fertilising ovum' or not LOL
WHY does your koran get it so wrong re sperm, (claiming its a drop emitted from between backbone/ribs, then FAILING TO EVEN MENTION the very crucial elements of both fertilisation and ovum"
again, there are many organs in the region....so why wouldnt any allah be more specific LOL
and how WEAK that you say 'whatever your mohammed said is good enough for you'
he said 'you were a blood clot for 40 days" but were you?
he also said 'females are dirty/deficient/inferior to ANY muslim male' including intellectually inferior...surely you must know some bright muslim women who run rings around some dumb muslim males
but you believe anything the pedo/rapist/KILLER/liar/thief/sicko mohammed said LOL
E. Marshall Johnson, Professor, Chairman of Department of Anatomy and Developmental Biology:
"...the Qur'an describes not only development of external form, but emphasizes the internal stages, the stages in the embryo, of its creation and development, major events recognized by contemporary science I see no evidence to refute the concept that Muhammad had to be developing this information from some place... nothing here in conflict with the concept that divine intervention was involved..."
Well, Muslims know that angels travel faster than the speed of light, vary in size, do not have gender, and are merely servants of Allah, so it's still ALLAH (swt) that is responsible for creation, which is easy to believe considering the Quran is unmatched and free of error.
And by the way, even if there were no Quran, it's fair to say scientists would agree "absence of evidence" doesn't prove evidence of absence, like how scientists thought miniature humans cling to menstrual blood.
UTTER DISHONEST NONSENSE....muslims dont KNOW that about angels at all, because its only a BELIEF that angels exist, and the same goes with the belief in an allah
the koran has multiple errors in it STARING US ALL IN THE FACE
but you are too scared to learn the sources of whats actually in it, its history, or the KNOWN MISTAKEN BELIEFS in it that we LAUGH at
so you are dribbling gullible NONSENSE tareq..as I said, you are NOT a bright or smart boy at all as a 'submissive ignorant wimp'
But guess what? So far, I am on the right track as an undergrad. I don't have to pay a penny for tuition and I've even used the extra money awarded to me by UCD for a nice car (not brand new, but still a sweet ride!)
Although it's none of your business, I'm a student at the Auraria Campus of University of Colorado; a biology major, one year away from graduation.
I'm not a med student (like you insist, yet later on accuse me of not being); IT'S PRE-MED; go back and read my info carefully, you idiot!
And not once have I used this as an excuse to claim I know more than you, because even then, a degree is meaningless; although it comes in handy if you want to prove you're competent for a career.
by the way, genius, if you haven't figured it out by now, the Quran isn't saying " man created from that fluid between the ribs and backbone," it simply mentioned drop EMITTED or EJECTED.
Why oh why, didn't you simply read the verse that came right before it???
Or at least in sequence!
"Now let man think from what he is created! - He is created from a drop that is EMITTED, proceeding from BETWEEN the BACKBONE and the RIBS."
of course there are many organs in that region...so WHY wouldnt any allah even be able to specify that instead of being so VAGUE lol
I presume in your training you will learn about early medicine, particularly greek, and might also LEARN about errors from that era...but will you have the GUTS to match them up with errors in your koran
and will you be being taught that 'angels breathe onto foetus" LOL
koran doesnt mention fertilisation..what a GLARING OMISSION, and you might learn why!
"Besides sperm, SEMEN is made up of 65 per cent of fluid from the SEMINAL VESICLES (located between backbone and ribs), 30 to 35 per cent from the prostate and 5 per cent from the vasa. Semen contains citric acid, free amino acids, fructose, enzymes, phosphorylcholine, prostaglandin, potassium, and zinc..."
Islam permits contraceptive pills. During the time of rasulAllah (pbuh) there was a term: AL AZL. Withdrawal by the man before emission to avoid pregnancy.
Abortion is forbidden [Verse 17:31 & 6:151], because according to Islamic law, this is murder. The Prophet (pbuh) said, "When a fetus has spent 42 days in the womb, Allah sends an Angel to it, who gives it forms, and carves for it ears, eyes, skin, flesh and bones "
I NOTE that you couldnt or didnt want to answer as to WHAT is the drop emitted from between backbone/ribs koran refers to, and from SPECIFICALLY where in that region
SURELY if any drop for something so important came from there, your allah would KNOW from where LOL
WHY do most scientists /educateds totally REJECT koran, and academics STATE that it plagiarises early greek literature EVEN INCLUDING their errors
proudfemale, as I've said Islam permits contraceptive pills, and after 42 days, according to an authentic narration, that's when it is considered living.
The reason I brought up contraceptive pills is in response to your statement in which you tried lecture me on life starting once there is fertilization not the sperm alone.
Also, the first scientists to observe the sperm cells using a microscope in the 17th century used to believe that the sperm cell contained a MINIATURE, PRE-SHAPED, human being that grew once deposited on the female genital tract.
Their names were Leeuwenhoek and Hamm, in the year 1677.
The verses in the Quran are out of any fixture in time and free of human error.
in your visible desperation you are getting yourself totally 'tied up in knots'
the koran states 'humans are created from a drop emitted from between backbone/ribs"
WHAT drop and from specifically where in that region LOL
human life begins ONLY by sperm fertilising ovum - and its an irrefutable fact that mistaken beliefs of that era in your koran PROVE youve been LIED TO when brainwashed that its accurate
I provide proof and clear evidence, you still respond with ad hominem and fail to bring up A SINGLE PROOF to refute the Quran. Sorry, maybe you should get a new hobby. Laugh at yourself.
the PROOF that ;muslims lied to is'written' in your koran when it includes known MISTAKEN BELIEFS of that era
and you SHOW the nonsense of islam with what you write re 'allah sending an angel to it' LOL....has any doctor seen an angel, let alone one breathing onto foetus
yes, human life occurs ONLY by sperm fertilising ovum...koran gets is COMICALLY wrong re sperm, AND NEVER MENTIONS fertilisation or ovum - the very BASICS LOL
maybe you should get better informed - I laugh at you
Are we now discussing "Life starting after fertilisation" or "existence of angels" ?
Angels are referred to in the Quran as "GHAYB" or "Unseen."
In Islam, there are two angels that are on your right and left, recording your good and bad deeds. But this isn't a scientific statement, and the mentioning of the angels isn't mentioned in the Quran, it's mentioned in HADITH.
WH WERE YOU SO DISHONEST claiming you are a med student and I always KNEW you were lying...such is the mark of a very desperate and weak submissive wimp
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Anatomy and Physiology, By Michael Lazaroff: The typical EJACULATION contains anywhere from 100 to 200 MILLION SPERM on average
3) From WHERE did Mohamed copy the "three-fold darkness in the womb"? [ Quran 39:6 ]
Only today do modern biologists discuss "the darkness of the abdomen, womb and placenta," each of which also have three layers of darkness.
4) ONLY until recently did scientists learn that muscled wraps around bone. Before it was widely believed that muscle and bone developed at the same time.
You didn't even address the 4 points I brought up. All you did: the classic kindergartener in the playground: Mud raking.
Anyone can make statements space at a time but if you want to prove ANY THEORY it has to be not only proven right, but also proven wrong, WITH EVIDENCE as well.
There was a reason I NUMBERED 1-4: so you could also number 1-4 with actual sources and evidence to reply with.
I laugh that a muslim has the 'galls' to use the word evidence...why dont you provide evidence of an allah or creationism....or that human were once a blood clot as your man made book states
muslims with intellect acknowledge the irrefutable facts/evidences supporting theory of evolution
but there is ZILCH of anything to support theory of an allah or creationism
you SHOW you are either pitifully SCARED to learn and face truths, or BACKWARDLY IGNORANT
I HAVE NO PROBLEM if you disagree with me or say there are errors in the Quran. But when you pretened to be the martha stewart of science and try lecturing me, you should know in any scientific theory, you need to have evidence to prove it and disprove it at the same time. Einstein gave three logical reasons why he could be wrong in addtion as to why he could be right, and only then was his theory on the universe good enough to be accepted.
In another narration, Mohamed (pbuh) mentions NUTFAH, which we know can only have one successful cell that fertilizes the egg: " Not from all the fluid , the child will form , and if Allah Wants to create any thing , nothing can prevent Him to do so .."
unless you can PROVE an allah (which millions have failed miserably to do) AND explain WHY 'mans mistaken errors' from 1400 years ago are in your koran, then you are just a JOKE
and WHY did you feel the need to BE SO DISHONEST claiming you are a med student LOL - you cant even grasp basic info and knowledge in your desperation and as a weak 'submissive slave' LOL
As a Muslim, I am to be honest, because I will be held accountable. It's that simple.
I can understand why you feel some statements made in the Quran are "vague," but the point behind all this was to point out one thing, which is a rhetorical question:
"Who convinced Mohamed to put all these curious statements in his Quran?"
The feudal, isolated Arabs whom he was inviting to Islam in Arabia, 7th century, gave poetry primacy, NOT SCIENCE. None of them knew what "dhar" (atom) even meant.
SURELY you would/should know that academics/doctors/scientists/astronomers existed well before you koran
and the sources of whats in it that is both accurate (and mistaken) come from them....why do you think academics say koran plagiarises early greek literature
do you NOT KNOW that koran was written and compiled by 'males' lol
there is NOTHING accurate in koran that wasnt already known by then...but WHAT ABOUT THE ERRORS
you really are one dumb desperately deluded 'submissive' lol
WHY does koran say the child will resemble whoever discharges first, and in 2009 there are STILL muslim males who will punish a woman for daring to give birth to a female child and NOT a favoured male
can you refute that there was much knowledge prior to koran...even surgery predates it by nearly 1000 years LOL
and given that koran NEVER mentions ovum, of course it was known that male produces both sexes
shemale, the "between backbone/ribs" fallacy has already been refuted many times against potatoes, such as one who claimed the "Quran says it's a woman," another says "it's sperm" and another who says "Quran mentions it's production in kidneys" LOL
I recommend you check out this link:
watch?v=GZFLJvV0jms&feature=response_watch
To sum it up, this "mysterious fluid" is SEMEN and there will be a nice little picture cause I know you don't like to read :)
"so WHAT is the drop that koran says is emitted from between backbone/ribs re conception tareq? and FROM SPECIFICALLY where in that region LOL"
Well, the answer lies in the same reason why sperm cells cannot move very well by themselves nor last very long especially in hostile environments such as the UTERUS.
And I'm sure if you got a mouthful of this "mysterious" fluid more often, you'd also be less hostile. Bitch.
indeed...why would it say sperm develops into hanging, when the sperm fertilises the ovum OUTSIDE of the uterus and is no longer sperm when it affixes...and of course the hanging/clinging was KNOWN by the 4th century
no matter how hard you try you will NEVER be able to justify WHY mistaken beliefs of that era are included in koran...ITS KNOWN why ovum isnt mentioned, but YOU dont have a clue do you LOL
its time you were better 'informed' - youre not smart at all
purleeze....SURELY you would know that I as a health professional KNOW that words sperm and hanging bear no connection to each other LOL
koran says human created from a drop emitted from between backbone/ribs...and SURELY you would know that 1400 yrs ago it was KNOWN that both male/female were involved LOL
The martha stewart of "awakening" honors us with her presence!
Did you create this account to argue about something you just cant' seem to comprehend, even when it's presented to you in plain english?
Like it or not, I'm conscious, free-thinking with a sound faith in my religion. At the same time I'm a technocrat who likes to use his brain (which obviously seems to offend you) to find answers, not plagiarize hate literature from public toilets.
"koran says 'sperm lodged in its resting place"....but was it sperm then LOL"
proudfemale, were you born with down syndrome? You just answered your own question in the same statement (....ok...) but anyways, the verse that mentions "lodged" specifically uses the word sperm in [23:13], which I've posted at least six times, but due to your delayed mental skills, you still haven't realized that by now. It's ok, take your time :)
proudfemale, Quran doesn't say humans were blood clot, genius. There are stages. Read [23:13] :)
Moore and Persaud, two well-accredited Scientists, in the pubication "The Developing Human, 5th edition," said: "external appearances of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo... the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week, thus the embryo at this stage is like clot of blood."
In Verse [ 96:1-3 ] the word alaq is mentioned and in [ 23-13-14] the English translation (dumbed down for you) is referred to as a lodging. Use your imagination, genius. What else could it be mentioning? Menstrual blood, like Aristotle assumed? LOL
right, and I'm sure Mohamed's companion who translated greek to arabic forgot to include the crucial detail of how miniature human beings in the menstrual blodd of the woman. Wow, you really exposed the hoax. The clouds have parted.
proudfemale, no one said anything about semen forming human life. You're still finding it hard to come to your senses after getting schooled the Quran that semen is produced in glands and not the testicles.
proudfemale, it's been weeks, and you have failed to find a single error in the Quran, other than present a layman's argument with no cited sources as backup.
And after 6 days of no replies posted, I figured now it was my turn to put YOUR religion to the test. So, again WHAT IS YOUR RELIGION?
you ADMIT that you want to know my religion is only to 'post errors' in it
never did I say muslims didnt contribute to science....but muslims seem to think that no knowledge/science existed prior to koran and they dont KNOW the sources of whats in it LOL
AND there are many errors in koran....e.g. not even you was ever a blood clot
"you ADMIT that you want to know my religion is only to 'post errors' in it "
Like I said, you failed miserably in finding a single error or even presenting evidence. Any idiot can make a scientific statement, but without evidence or experiments, you're still just using a LAYMAN's argument, like the clowns at "Answering Islam."
And after 6 days, you couldn't muster a single reply, so now that it's done with, let's put YOUR religion to the test.
"and you, despite your insistence, were NEVER a blood clot "
Go read [23:12-14]. It's been there since the 7th century. The only one who keeps insisting that's in the Quran is you :)
"Man WE did create from a quintessence; then WE placed him a SPERM in a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then WE made the sperm a clot of congealed blood; then of that WE made a LUMP; then WE made out of that lump BONES and clothed the bones with FLESH."
yet again you yourself EXPOSE the nonsense in koran lol
is a zygote sperm when it affixes in the uterus?
a clot of congealed blood IS a blood clot...but NO HUMAN BEING was ever a blood clot, altho it was a 'belief' 1400 yrs ago
and has there ever been a foetus aborted with bones on the outside WAITING to be clothed LOL
if you were SMARTER you would know that mingled sperm is NOT referring to ovum......you DONT HAVE A CLUE about the sources of whats in your own comic book, do you LOL
"the clinging/hanging was known in the 4th century"
This was Aristotle, who actually thought miniature human beings were clinging onto menstrual blood of the woman and the male sperm was the catalyst of that human's development. LOL
and you think they might find the 'sun really does set in muddy water' LOL
Verse [18:86] is talking about western expedition of Zul Qarnayn, not extreme west. Just like how if I say the Sun rises from the East, you shouldnt assume Im saying, The Sun pops out of Fiji or Japan.
But anyways, back to the verse. The muddy water is referring to the body of water in Lychnitis (now Orchida), west of Macedonia. Due to the underground spring in a limestone region, the water appears muddy.
you OOZE DISHONESTY ...what makes you so backwardly ignorant and visibly STUPID
the koran says 'sun prostrates and sets in muddy water'
what on earth do you mean by 'extreme' west....you get more and more AMUSING TO WATCH, getting yourself so tied up in knots
its time you grew up...faced some truths/realities
koran PROVES the hoax and that muslims are LIED TO.....no matter how desperate you are to believe, its a fact youve been CONNED due to your cowardice and weakness
"the koran says you were once a blood clot...but you were NEVER one"
According to Moore and Persaud, in The Developing Human, 5th ed., p. 65, "external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo... the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week. Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood."
" and mingled is NOT referring to ovum..and koran DOESNT USE THE WORD SPERM "
In [76:2] in the Quran, the words used are نُّطۡفَةٍ أَمۡشَاجٍ۬ (nutfah) which literally mean mingled sperms, (ie mingled male female agents, forming a zygote).
but its NOT referring to ovum and it NEVER mentions sperm...its time you LEARNED why the nonsense that is in your koran is in it lol...you need to get 'better informed' as to the sources of the junk in it
you make an IDIOT of yourself with your continual desperation....and I will keep 'showing you and the hoax of islam up'
In [76:2] in the Quran, the words used are نُّطۡفَةٍ أَمۡشَاجٍ۬ (nutfah) which literally mean mingled sperms, (ie mingled male female agents, forming a zygote).
"koran doesnt say 'looks like' it says YOU WERE and thats a huge difference"
The Quran doesn't say "started out as blood clot." Infact, that is near the last stage, according to [23:12-14]
"Man WE did create From a quintessence; Then WE placed him as sperm In a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then WE made the sperm Into a clot of congealed blood; Then of that clot WE made a lump; then WE Made out of that lump Bones and clothed the bones With flesh;"
the koran says you WERE a blood clot....but you NEVER WERE
and the place of rest is the uterus but kona doesnt say SPERM and is it sperm when an embryo affixes to the uterus
Im LAUGHING that YOU are showing all how the koran is so WRONG....not even you as a desperate muslim wimp was EVER a blood clot, so WHY does your koran include what was a mistaken belief in your comic book
and is any foetus bones on the outside WAITING to be clothed LOL
6) Quran describes exploded galaxies looking like roses. Verse 55:37
7) The moon is mentioned 28 times in the Quran, which is the exact number of times it appears to us.
8) Greeks thought speed of light was infinite, but in the Quran, Verse (10:5), it talks about the solar gravitational field on geocentric orbital motion of the moon. (21:33) discusses the sun, moon, and earth having their own orbits. (32:5) uses length of moons' orbit and time of one day as being correlated for velocity.
I 'repeat'...there is nothing that is both accurate AND clearly written in koran that wasnt already known then...this is WHY most scientists/academics reject it
and the MISTAKEN BELIEFS OF THAT ERA also included in it PROVE that its a hoax when muslims are brainwashed its accurate
next thing you will be trying to tell me is that 'yawning really is from satan' and not about regulating the temperature of brain LOL
and YOU thought you were a blood clot too...how amusing!!!
wrong yet again tareq...you CANNOT say most accept the koran because that would be a LIE
evidently you seem to think that one day science will make a u turn re embryology LOL
sorry kid....its an IRREFUTABLE FACT that no human being was ever a blood clot, that ovum is ALWAYS necessary and that sperm does NOT emit from between backbone/ribs
and you think they might find the 'sun really does set in muddy water' LOL
I provide you with EVIDENCE of the hoax/deceit....just READ the koran LOL
there's your evidence for ALL to see
why dont you research things like medical info...and learn that in the UK where 1.4% of babies born are Pakistani, yet these babies make up a STAGGERING 30% of those born with birth defects!!! can you do maths
do you KNOW what muslims say when they SHOW they dont care....'its the will of allah"
now you want to infer that muslims dont excuse such things by saying 'its the will of allah'?
and if you were a med student (like you DISHONESTLY CLAIMED) YOU WOULD KNOW the huge disparity in numbers of muslim babies born with birth defects AND the cause
the koran says you were once a blood clot...but you were NEVER one
the koran talks about a 'drop emitted' from between backbone/.ribs re conception...WHAT drop
proudfemale, no scientist (especially someone with a reputation like these two you mentioned) would put their reputation on the line and risk excommunication from the scientific community.
The last time Keith Moore replied to someone accusing Mohamed (pbuh) of copying from someone else, he told him: "You missed an important point. All these slide shows were taken from a MICROSCOPE. It doesn't matter if Mohamed tried to copy from someone."
1) Aristotle was wrong about genders of bees, whereas the Quran is correct. Verses 68 and 69
2) Julius Wellhausen claimed the Quran was mentioning a fictional place that was a myth (the place was called Emad). Archaeologists uncovered the ruins of Emad in 1996. Verse 89:6
3) Quran is the only source that locates the lowest point on earth. Verse 30:1-4
4) Iron came from outer space. Verse 25
5) Quran mentions barriers between fresh and salt water. Verse 55:19
11) Ja'far al-Balkhi: mathematician/ astronomer who influenced Aristotle's theory on nature.
12) Al-Ghazali (11th century): philosopher/ cosmologist, formulated atomic theory: "atoms are the only perpetual, material things in existence, all else is 'accidental.' Published 'The Deliverer from Error,' contains detailed anatomical description of the cadavers he dissected. First to divide sensory motives of humans
its an IRREFUTABLE FACT that whats accurate in koran was known before it 'dummy'....how come you obviously DONT HAVE A CLUE of science/medicine/knowledge of over 1,000 years before it AND that many academics claim koran plagiarises early greek literature and have proofs
so WHAT on earth does 45 or 71.11 have to do with this fact you IDIOT
how come you lack the mental capacity to grasp the fact that we SEE the errors/mistakes staring us all in the face...but muslims FEAR looking
"Ive seen muslims (who are backwardly stupid enough to THINK they were once blood clots) come unstuck over the NONSENSE in koran time and time again"
Are you too stupid to simply google? It's been there in [31:14] in the Quran for over 1400 years? You've probably been around before computers were invented. I doubt you even know how to turn a computer on without the help of your grand children LOL
The comment I removed exposes what a lazy, half-witted dumass you really are...
You are so stupid it is too much fun to leave your comments alone: And the reason I decided not to correct it or post a second one was because the specific verse was actually [23:14] not [31:14].
For the sake of argument, let's see your worthless opinion about embryology versus Keith L. Moore, who's not even a Muslim yet he makes references to the Quran.
SURELY SURELY you would/SHOULD know that for past 10 + years Moore has refused to talk/publish re koran and, more importantly 'WHY' this is so - even Bucaille admits the errors
what makes you TOO SCARED to face the truths re sources of whats in your man made book ...i.e both whats accurate and what are MISTAKEN BELIEFS of that era
you dont know whats transpired re Moore...how BACKWARD are you lol?
Maurice Bucaille: "in Islam, science and religion have always been twin sisters... there are monumental errors of science in the Bible and not a single error in the Quran, whose descriptions of natural phenomena make it compatible with modern science. Bucaille concludes that the Qur'an is the reliable word of God."
Keith Moore: "It is clear to me these statements must have come to Mohamed from God or Allah because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later."
7) The first medical peer review was written by Ishaq bin Ali al-Rahwi.
8) Ibn Firnas: first engineer to fly and simulate weathers.
9) Al-Khawarizmi: mathematician who devised the foundation of modern algebra, such as polynomial equations, reduction, algorithm, and introduced decimal points. Also invented the sine, horary quadrants. Also corrected Ptolemy's depiction of the Atlantic and Indian Ocean by proving they are open bodies of water, not land-locked as Ptolemy suggested.
5) Ibn Hayyan: the chemist accredited with the discovery of Sulfuric acid, hydrochloric acid, nitric acid, acetic acid, Arsenic, Bismuth, Sulfur, and Mercury.
6) Abu Bakr ibn Zakariya ar-Razi is the first physician to diagnose, accurately describe, and successfully treat small pox, measles, discovered that hay fever is a natural defense mechanism against disease, devised pediatrics as a seperate branch of medicine, and was a medical advisor for the public, exposed charlatans on many occasions.
I read some good comments here. Ive read some mean comments here. Hate, we know, solves nothing......the solution is in the problem-ECONOMICS. Yemen has to develop an economic system that is unique to its conditions and ppl. It has to be studied and put into action. Something better than talk and theory. TRY something in one area. If it works-use it in another. GULF nations can help via loans;grants;and investments. PPL in yemen just need a start. They can do the rest..they are natural merchants
Yemen doesn't really have any capital market or systems tied to the international financial system, which is why it is insulated it from the current global financial crisis.
Yemen's economic situation is kind of complicated. For decades, it was always at a state of war and occasionally had shaky or frozen relations with neignboring countries, which led to the expulsion of 1 million Yemeni workers from Saudi Arabia. Today within Yemeni society corruption is rampant and resources are limited.
surprise surprise...a muslim society corrupt/dishonest and children suffering
and yet all the 'weak submissive males subjugating themselves to allah' will be sticking their asses in the air and claiming, as taught, how superior they are as muslims...WHILST the children suffer
Um, Yemen is not under the rule of Islamic law, and has not been for the last 200 years, as well as all the other Muslim-majority nations.
The fact you generalize only shows what an intellectually bankrupt idiot you are. Please go bother someone else with your stupidity, you filthy kafir.
did I say it was under rule of islamic law you fool....but MOST of its people are muslim and what we see in yemen is also prevalent in other muslim majority countries
how did you feel when Yemeni Govt wanted to outlaw fgm...but islamic leaders IN YEMEN intervened to prevent this law being passed
they wanted the barbarity to continue
WHY is there such misery for millions of children in muslim countries...do you feel SHAME
Yemeni government is secular and jails many of the Islamic leaders and scholars, who voice the opposition to it.
Get real, this is the 21st century, the time where humans have evolved to a point where they can tolerate other people's faiths, not dwell in the darkness of the Feudal ages and create contention between each other. The only barbaric person is you.
how childish to say Im barbaric tareq...when its ME who 'cares' about the countless millions of innocent victims of islam...those denied rights/harmed/mutilated and you as a muslim SHOW you dont give a dam when like all muslims, you sit in SILENT ACQUIESCENCE
yes, I said muslim society....are the majority of yemeni citizens muslim?
yes or no?
do you KNOW how your leaders recently intervened re fgm, wanting the practice to continue...yes or no
If you don't want to be called barbaric, then I suggest you stop behaving like it. You generalize Muslims for economic problems rampant ALL over the world, including the other 4/5 of humans who aren't humans.
I am a citizen of Yemen, and I speak for every Yemeni when I say we need new leadership, one which strictly observes Islamic law, not this corrupt secular democracy.
First of all, there's a reason it's called the REPUBLIC of Yemen, not ISLAMIC EMIRATE of Yemen, barbaric kafir.
I don't think, I know for a fact Islamic law will improve things, you fascist pig.
And you know why I call you a fascist? You try to force your ideology down other people's throats, and tell them how to run their own countries.
History shows that under Islamic law, the Muslims prospered and reached the peak of civilization.
It doesn't matter what you think, because even now we see who's suffering from depravity. Why don't you compare crime rates between the Middle East and the West?
history doesnt show muslims prospered at all...it shows civilisations were advanced prior to islam and once islam took over things started to deteriorate...so you DONT KNOW at all, you have been TOLD it would
about crime rates....rape/incest/pedophilia/killing/corruption/domestic abuse are RAMPANT within your ummah
remember what we regard and report as crime is NOT regarded as a crime in the ummah
YOU are wanting countries to be run islamically....so does that make you a fascist
oh really...sadly EVERYTHING that I mentioned IS DEFINITELY islam
its sick and evil to its very backward immoral core...and right now is vulnerable because NOT ALL born into the ummah are prepared to accept the deceit/hoax or SUPPORT what it causes
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scalex 1 year ago
I dnt understand how does yawning, being sleepy, or eating too much is related to this video..u ppl clearly did not understand what this video is about.. Stopp talkin about nonesense!!!
YeMeNzMoStPrEcIoUs 2 years ago
this najs 7aiwan (proudfemale) started saying "Quran and hadith have scientific errors." I was simply clarifying those "errors" she tried bringing up.
Tareq88 2 years ago
@Tareq88
The Quran and hadith are books of the pervert.
You are a pervert
pedophiliaakbarboom 1 year ago
@pedophiliaakbarboom if you'll read the Quran, in verse (2:256): "There shall be no compulsion in religion." If you don't want to become a Muslim, that's your choice. Otherwise, don't pester people with your stupidity and childish name-calling, you filthy kafir swine.
Tareq88 1 year ago
quran never pervert, becuase you dont have knowledge islamic history or see world has fuck insane good evil rich poor, u suck brain
lahij 1 year ago
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scalex 1 year ago
... in other words, someone may feel too laggy or lazy to actually get up and perform the daily prayers.
Tareq88 2 years ago
And the Scientist who said "Yawning being a response to feeling tired or bored" was Anita K Simonds of the
Department of Respiratory Medicine
Royal Brompton Hospital.
Tareq88 2 years ago
Yawning is a negative feedback that decreases the predisposition of wanting to sleep.
Someone who may feel heavy or too lazy after over-eating, this causes a semi voluntary response to decrease the concentration of serotonin and noradrenaline.
Over-eating is the same as blindly following desires, leading to someone who may not want to fulfill religious obligations, such as the daily prayer.
Tareq88 2 years ago
[ Quran, 7:31] "...And eat and drink moderately; Surely, He does not love the gluttons."
[ Quran, 2:168 ] "... eat of what is on earth, Lawful and good; and do not follow the footsteps of the evil one, for he is to you an avowed enemy."
[ Book 4: Volume 54: Hadith 509, Narrated Abu Huraira ] : "Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you should say: 'Ha', SATAN WILL LAUGH AT HIM."
Over-eating leads to yawning.
Tareq88 2 years ago
actually over eating DOESNT lead to yawning
you are so pitifully IGNORANT
the causes of yawning include
-hunger,need of food
-body preparing for state of alertness
-severe medical conditions/including renal and diabetes
-to equalise middle ear pressure and lubricate the cornea
first prove a satan before you continue to DRIBBLE SUCH IMMATURE DISHONEST JUNK
yawning from satan indeed lol...this is ABSOLUTE PROOF that there is NO all knowing allah
proudfemale 2 years ago
Tejatat Tejasen, Chairman of the Department of Anatomy, former Dean of the faculty of Medicine, University of Chiang Mai:
"In the last three years, I became interested in the Qur'an... From my studies and what I have learned throughout this conference, I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Qur'an fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means."
Tareq88 2 years ago
you IDIOT...much of whats in koran that is accurate WAS KNOWN by scientists/doctors well before koran
you ask him whether its the 'truth' that humans were once a blood clot, no fertilisation or ovum necessary, or that sperm is emitted from between backbone/ribs....or whether sun sets in muddy water LOL
even Bucaille admits koran is wrong
yes...scientists can be and have been wrong - what dont you understand about such basic facts and truths
koran PROVES youve been LIED TO
proudfemale 2 years ago
Dr. Maurice Bucaille, former chief of the Surgical Clinic, University of Paris:
"...our knowledge of these disciplines is such, that it is impossible to explain how a text produced at the time of the Qur'an could have contained ideas that have only been discovered in modern times."
Tareq88 2 years ago
LEARN what he has since admitted...and explain WHY most scientists/academics totally reject koran
ask yourself
were YOU once a blood clot, and was sperm fertilising ovum necessary for your conception...yes or no
does sun set in muddy water and do trees talk...and about jews LOL
and is yawning a requirement to regulate temperature of brain OR 'from satan" LOL
you are one BACKWARD weak wimp....not a bright boy at all, quite the opposite AND desperate LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
not so many years ago people didnt know much about islam, but with us LEARNING quite how repulsive/immoral/harmful it is 'experts' have proven that what is accurate in koran was ALREADY KNOWN/...they even say it plagiarises early greek literature and they prove it with evidence
and NO SCIENTIST will ever ever say 'mistakes' denote accuracy...you are DELUDING only yourself
WHY do you think non belief amongst muslims is GROWING RAPIDLY
proudfemale 2 years ago
Well, I just posted a few scientists' comments, and you are no longer arguing with me, but them :)
You're arguing against scientists now? lol
just like a dog BARK BARK BARK
Tareq88 2 years ago
can you refute the VAST MAJORITY of scientists totally refute the koran DUE TO mistaken beliefs included in it, then purported to be factual when theyre not
why dont you tell me then
-were you once a blood clot
-were you conceived without fertilisation/ovum
-does sperm form and emit from between backbone/ribs and from specifically WHERE
-does a child resemble whoever discharges first
-does sun set in muddy water
show me whether you have brains or balls and ANSWER the above
proudfemale 2 years ago
lets see if you limited mental capacity can comprehend that MUCH OF WHATS IN IT is accurate...and this is provable DUE TO what was already known/discovered well before it
so scientists are going to agree with that part
but WHAT scientist would ever say 'sun sets in muddy water, or that a human being was once a blood clot"???
proudfemale 2 years ago
you appear to have been left behind in the dust...
All the questions you brought up (ribs and backbone, sun set at muddy waters, blood clot) were addressed A MONTH AGO.
Go back a few pages and read the evidence I already posted.
As for the yawning, this isn't even in the Qur'an, but again, if the Prophet (pbuh) said it, then it's good enough for me, and there's still a scientific explanation for this over a thousand years ago, so I'll be courteous to clue you in.
Be sure to read it.
Tareq88 2 years ago
again you show ABSOLUTE gullibility with your 'if prophets said it' its good enough for me
he said that YOU were once a blood clot..and that yawning is from satan as allah doesnt like it LOL
your EXCUSE re 'a thousand years ago' is crap!
even THEN yawning is/was an automatic bodily response required to regulate the temperature of the brain
and you DIDNT address the mistaken beliefs written in koran....you tried to rationalise them but FAILED
koran PROVES the hoax of islam
proudfemale 2 years ago
"you tried to rationalise them but FAILED"
Being the childish hothead that you are, you probably don't yawn at all :)
I actually addressed them using non-Muslim sources, such as credible scientists (who weren't Muslims, just for the sake of argumen).
If you can't accept them as valid points, then that's YOUR problem.
By the way, didn't you say a while back there was a video about that scientist who left Islam?
Tareq88 2 years ago
WHAT scientist are you referring to LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
The Islamic terminology for angels is "Mala ikah," taken from the root word "Malkun" which simply means FORCE.
With every object comes at least one natural force, right?
Tareq88 2 years ago
Joe Leigh Simpson Professor and Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Baylor College of Medicine
"...In a relatively few verses is contained a rather comprehensive description of human development from the time of commingling of the gametes through organogenesis. No such distinct and complete record of human development such as classification, terminology, and description existed previously.
Tareq88 2 years ago
he is wrong...many many academics have PROVEN koran has earlier knowledge in it...e.g. the clinging aspect was known in the 4th century
WHY do todays academics/scientists reject it...even your Bucailled admits its wrong, and the KNOWN mistaken beliefs of that era being in it are WRITTEN PROOF that muslims are LIED TO
and remember, you were never a blood clot and it NEVER MENTIONS THE VERY BASICS OF FERTILISATION AND OVUM, and again we know why it doesnt ...its time you woke up
proudfemale 2 years ago
A scientist wrong? This is testimony you're a hypocrite and a dumass LOL
Tareq88 2 years ago
Angels are servants of Allah and have no free will. Humans have free will to believe or disbelieve, but will ultimately face justice.
"[The angels say], 'There is not among us any except that he has a known position'". [Quran 37:164]
Tareq88 2 years ago
first prove an angel, then prove an allah before you continue to dribble your taught NONSENSE
and as a doctor do you think you will SEE angels breathing onto foetus LOL - and who cares if its in koran or not, much islamic NONSENSE isnt in the man made book.....yet muslims are INDOCTRINATED that its all true
proudfemale 2 years ago
Way to weasel your way out of the original merit, which was LIFE BEGINNING AT FERTILISATION.
Anyways, if Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) said it, then its good enough for me. There are also angels that carry out the punishments of in hell and serve the dwellers of Paradise, and there is the angel of death.
The statement about breathe onto foetus is not actually in the Quran.
Tareq88 2 years ago
purleeze...does human life begin with 'sperm fertilising ovum' or not LOL
WHY does your koran get it so wrong re sperm, (claiming its a drop emitted from between backbone/ribs, then FAILING TO EVEN MENTION the very crucial elements of both fertilisation and ovum"
again, there are many organs in the region....so why wouldnt any allah be more specific LOL
what makes you quite as gullible as you are ?
proudfemale 2 years ago
and how WEAK that you say 'whatever your mohammed said is good enough for you'
he said 'you were a blood clot for 40 days" but were you?
he also said 'females are dirty/deficient/inferior to ANY muslim male' including intellectually inferior...surely you must know some bright muslim women who run rings around some dumb muslim males
but you believe anything the pedo/rapist/KILLER/liar/thief/sicko mohammed said LOL
you really ARE gullible
proudfemale 2 years ago
E. Marshall Johnson, Professor, Chairman of Department of Anatomy and Developmental Biology:
"...the Qur'an describes not only development of external form, but emphasizes the internal stages, the stages in the embryo, of its creation and development, major events recognized by contemporary science I see no evidence to refute the concept that Muhammad had to be developing this information from some place... nothing here in conflict with the concept that divine intervention was involved..."
Tareq88 2 years ago
LEARN what was known WELL before you koran....you are TOO SCARED to face truths/reality/knowledge eh
THE KORAN 'gets it very very wrong' in many ways
it says you were a blood clot..but you NEVER were
it never mentions the crucial elements of sperm fertilising ovum, without which NO HUMAN LIFE begins
and academics worldwide LAUGH at people being told such is accurate
what makes you quite as gullible and WEAK as you show you are?
koran proves youve been LIED TO...THATS A FACT
proudfemale 2 years ago
Well, Muslims know that angels travel faster than the speed of light, vary in size, do not have gender, and are merely servants of Allah, so it's still ALLAH (swt) that is responsible for creation, which is easy to believe considering the Quran is unmatched and free of error.
And by the way, even if there were no Quran, it's fair to say scientists would agree "absence of evidence" doesn't prove evidence of absence, like how scientists thought miniature humans cling to menstrual blood.
Tareq88 2 years ago
UTTER DISHONEST NONSENSE....muslims dont KNOW that about angels at all, because its only a BELIEF that angels exist, and the same goes with the belief in an allah
the koran has multiple errors in it STARING US ALL IN THE FACE
but you are too scared to learn the sources of whats actually in it, its history, or the KNOWN MISTAKEN BELIEFS in it that we LAUGH at
so you are dribbling gullible NONSENSE tareq..as I said, you are NOT a bright or smart boy at all as a 'submissive ignorant wimp'
proudfemale 2 years ago
whats accurate in koran was WELL KNOWN before it..thats why it appears in it, and koran came from many sources!
but WHAT ABOUT THE MISTAKEN BELIEFS of that era that we all see, staring us in the face...they also are KNOWN from that era
proudfemale 2 years ago
But guess what? So far, I am on the right track as an undergrad. I don't have to pay a penny for tuition and I've even used the extra money awarded to me by UCD for a nice car (not brand new, but still a sweet ride!)
Tareq88 2 years ago
Although it's none of your business, I'm a student at the Auraria Campus of University of Colorado; a biology major, one year away from graduation.
I'm not a med student (like you insist, yet later on accuse me of not being); IT'S PRE-MED; go back and read my info carefully, you idiot!
And not once have I used this as an excuse to claim I know more than you, because even then, a degree is meaningless; although it comes in handy if you want to prove you're competent for a career.
Tareq88 2 years ago
by the way, genius, if you haven't figured it out by now, the Quran isn't saying " man created from that fluid between the ribs and backbone," it simply mentioned drop EMITTED or EJECTED.
Why oh why, didn't you simply read the verse that came right before it???
Or at least in sequence!
"Now let man think from what he is created! - He is created from a drop that is EMITTED, proceeding from BETWEEN the BACKBONE and the RIBS."
Tareq88 2 years ago
of course there are many organs in that region...so WHY wouldnt any allah even be able to specify that instead of being so VAGUE lol
I presume in your training you will learn about early medicine, particularly greek, and might also LEARN about errors from that era...but will you have the GUTS to match them up with errors in your koran
and will you be being taught that 'angels breathe onto foetus" LOL
koran doesnt mention fertilisation..what a GLARING OMISSION, and you might learn why!
proudfemale 2 years ago
Men's Health:
"Besides sperm, SEMEN is made up of 65 per cent of fluid from the SEMINAL VESICLES (located between backbone and ribs), 30 to 35 per cent from the prostate and 5 per cent from the vasa. Semen contains citric acid, free amino acids, fructose, enzymes, phosphorylcholine, prostaglandin, potassium, and zinc..."
Tareq88 2 years ago
Proudfemale:
human life begins ONLY by sperm fertilising ovum
Islam permits contraceptive pills. During the time of rasulAllah (pbuh) there was a term: AL AZL. Withdrawal by the man before emission to avoid pregnancy.
Abortion is forbidden [Verse 17:31 & 6:151], because according to Islamic law, this is murder. The Prophet (pbuh) said, "When a fetus has spent 42 days in the womb, Allah sends an Angel to it, who gives it forms, and carves for it ears, eyes, skin, flesh and bones "
Tareq88 2 years ago
I NOTE that you couldnt or didnt want to answer as to WHAT is the drop emitted from between backbone/ribs koran refers to, and from SPECIFICALLY where in that region
SURELY if any drop for something so important came from there, your allah would KNOW from where LOL
WHY do most scientists /educateds totally REJECT koran, and academics STATE that it plagiarises early greek literature EVEN INCLUDING their errors
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale (19 hours ago)
"I NOTE you couldnt or didnt want to answer as to WHAT is the drop..."
It's semen.
"and from SPECIFICALLY where in the region."
The region is between between backbone and ribs.
Tareq88 2 years ago
as I said, you SHOW THE MOST HILARIOUS AND BACKWARD IGNORANCE
firstly, no human life EVER was created by semen
and there are multiple organs between the backbone/ribs too LOL
purleeze...prove an angel before you dribble further IMMATURE BRAINWASHED junk
life doesnt commence WITHOUT fertilisation you fool...AND WHY is it NEVER mentioned in your book, given its the crucial factor LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale, as I've said Islam permits contraceptive pills, and after 42 days, according to an authentic narration, that's when it is considered living.
Tareq88 2 years ago
what do contraceptive pills have to do with the nonsense you are writing....and sperm forms and is emitted from the testes ONLY
so WHY would your allah have in your koran a 'mistaken belief' of that era re backbone LOL
semen has NEVER produced a human life, and so too has there NEVER been a life formed without fertilisation and ovum
I hope you squirm with 'shame' when you do your training....MOST intellectual muslims would
and WHAT ABOUT THE BLOOD CLOT error LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
The reason I brought up contraceptive pills is in response to your statement in which you tried lecture me on life starting once there is fertilization not the sperm alone.
Tareq88 2 years ago
Also, the first scientists to observe the sperm cells using a microscope in the 17th century used to believe that the sperm cell contained a MINIATURE, PRE-SHAPED, human being that grew once deposited on the female genital tract.
Their names were Leeuwenhoek and Hamm, in the year 1677.
The verses in the Quran are out of any fixture in time and free of human error.
Tareq88 2 years ago
in your visible desperation you are getting yourself totally 'tied up in knots'
the koran states 'humans are created from a drop emitted from between backbone/ribs"
WHAT drop and from specifically where in that region LOL
human life begins ONLY by sperm fertilising ovum - and its an irrefutable fact that mistaken beliefs of that era in your koran PROVE youve been LIED TO when brainwashed that its accurate
MOST educateds LAUGH at it!
proudfemale 2 years ago
I provide proof and clear evidence, you still respond with ad hominem and fail to bring up A SINGLE PROOF to refute the Quran. Sorry, maybe you should get a new hobby. Laugh at yourself.
Tareq88 2 years ago
the PROOF that ;muslims lied to is'written' in your koran when it includes known MISTAKEN BELIEFS of that era
and you SHOW the nonsense of islam with what you write re 'allah sending an angel to it' LOL....has any doctor seen an angel, let alone one breathing onto foetus
yes, human life occurs ONLY by sperm fertilising ovum...koran gets is COMICALLY wrong re sperm, AND NEVER MENTIONS fertilisation or ovum - the very BASICS LOL
maybe you should get better informed - I laugh at you
proudfemale 2 years ago
Are we now discussing "Life starting after fertilisation" or "existence of angels" ?
Angels are referred to in the Quran as "GHAYB" or "Unseen."
In Islam, there are two angels that are on your right and left, recording your good and bad deeds. But this isn't a scientific statement, and the mentioning of the angels isn't mentioned in the Quran, it's mentioned in HADITH.
Tareq88 2 years ago
WH WERE YOU SO DISHONEST claiming you are a med student and I always KNEW you were lying...such is the mark of a very desperate and weak submissive wimp
proudfemale 2 years ago
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Anatomy and Physiology, By Michael Lazaroff: The typical EJACULATION contains anywhere from 100 to 200 MILLION SPERM on average
Tareq88 2 years ago
3) From WHERE did Mohamed copy the "three-fold darkness in the womb"? [ Quran 39:6 ]
Only today do modern biologists discuss "the darkness of the abdomen, womb and placenta," each of which also have three layers of darkness.
4) ONLY until recently did scientists learn that muscled wraps around bone. Before it was widely believed that muscle and bone developed at the same time.
[ Quran 23:14 ]
Tareq88 2 years ago
modern scientists DONT regard the 'mistaken beliefs' as accurate you fool...even Bucaille admits koran is NOT compatible with modern knowledge
bones form by a process of change simultaneously and 'within' the outer skin and flesh
and what about the 'blood clot' error, no mention of fertilisation or ovum LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
many academics CONFIRM that koran 'plagiarises' early greek literature
the KNOWN mistakes of early academics are also in it
and WHAT scientist has ever confirmed that you were a blood clot....or that angels breathe onto foetus LOL
WHY do you think those smarter than you who are NOT TOO SCARED to research and think for themselves REJECT the koran
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale
You didn't even address the 4 points I brought up. All you did: the classic kindergartener in the playground: Mud raking.
Anyone can make statements space at a time but if you want to prove ANY THEORY it has to be not only proven right, but also proven wrong, WITH EVIDENCE as well.
There was a reason I NUMBERED 1-4: so you could also number 1-4 with actual sources and evidence to reply with.
Tareq88 2 years ago
I laugh that a muslim has the 'galls' to use the word evidence...why dont you provide evidence of an allah or creationism....or that human were once a blood clot as your man made book states
muslims with intellect acknowledge the irrefutable facts/evidences supporting theory of evolution
but there is ZILCH of anything to support theory of an allah or creationism
you SHOW you are either pitifully SCARED to learn and face truths, or BACKWARDLY IGNORANT
but ther
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale,are you on strong medication?
I HAVE NO PROBLEM if you disagree with me or say there are errors in the Quran. But when you pretened to be the martha stewart of science and try lecturing me, you should know in any scientific theory, you need to have evidence to prove it and disprove it at the same time. Einstein gave three logical reasons why he could be wrong in addtion as to why he could be right, and only then was his theory on the universe good enough to be accepted.
Tareq88 2 years ago
In another narration, Mohamed (pbuh) mentions NUTFAH, which we know can only have one successful cell that fertilizes the egg: " Not from all the fluid , the child will form , and if Allah Wants to create any thing , nothing can prevent Him to do so .."
Tareq88 2 years ago
unless you can PROVE an allah (which millions have failed miserably to do) AND explain WHY 'mans mistaken errors' from 1400 years ago are in your koran, then you are just a JOKE
and WHY did you feel the need to BE SO DISHONEST claiming you are a med student LOL - you cant even grasp basic info and knowledge in your desperation and as a weak 'submissive slave' LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
As a Muslim, I am to be honest, because I will be held accountable. It's that simple.
I can understand why you feel some statements made in the Quran are "vague," but the point behind all this was to point out one thing, which is a rhetorical question:
"Who convinced Mohamed to put all these curious statements in his Quran?"
The feudal, isolated Arabs whom he was inviting to Islam in Arabia, 7th century, gave poetry primacy, NOT SCIENCE. None of them knew what "dhar" (atom) even meant.
Tareq88 2 years ago
SURELY you would/should know that academics/doctors/scientists/astronomers existed well before you koran
and the sources of whats in it that is both accurate (and mistaken) come from them....why do you think academics say koran plagiarises early greek literature
do you NOT KNOW that koran was written and compiled by 'males' lol
there is NOTHING accurate in koran that wasnt already known by then...but WHAT ABOUT THE ERRORS
proudfemale 2 years ago
"SURELY you would/should know that academics/doctors/scientists/a stronomers existed well before you koran"
1) So why did the Quran leave out Aristotle's statement "miniature humans clinging onto menstrual blood" ? (Google the word ALAQ)
2) Up until the 20th century, it was believed that a baby's gender was determined by the mother's cells.
Quran always refers to masculinity (or femininity) determined out of "a drop of semen which has been ejected." [ 75:37-39 ]
Tareq88 2 years ago
you really are one dumb desperately deluded 'submissive' lol
WHY does koran say the child will resemble whoever discharges first, and in 2009 there are STILL muslim males who will punish a woman for daring to give birth to a female child and NOT a favoured male
can you refute that there was much knowledge prior to koran...even surgery predates it by nearly 1000 years LOL
and given that koran NEVER mentions ovum, of course it was known that male produces both sexes
proudfemale 2 years ago
shemale, the "between backbone/ribs" fallacy has already been refuted many times against potatoes, such as one who claimed the "Quran says it's a woman," another says "it's sperm" and another who says "Quran mentions it's production in kidneys" LOL
I recommend you check out this link:
watch?v=GZFLJvV0jms&feature=response_watch
To sum it up, this "mysterious fluid" is SEMEN and there will be a nice little picture cause I know you don't like to read :)
Tareq88 2 years ago
you fool...koran actually doesnt use the word sperm at all
so SPECIFICALLY WHERE does semen emit from...SURELY any allah wouldnt need to be so VAGUE as to say 'between backbone/ribs'
and of course semen NEVER has produced any human being LOL
the ONLY thing that is relevant is that 'sperm fertilises ovum' and koran doesnt mention these factors
proudfemale 2 years ago
"koran actually doesnt use the word sperm at all"
The word used in the Quran is nutfah, which means sperm.
To make sure I'm not being vague, prophet Mohamed (pbuh) said: " Created from both ; from a man nutfah and from a woman nutfah "
( Narrated in Musnad Ahmad, volume 1, page 465)
Tareq88 2 years ago
proudfemale (1 hour ago)
"so WHAT is the drop that koran says is emitted from between backbone/ribs re conception tareq? and FROM SPECIFICALLY where in that region LOL"
Well, the answer lies in the same reason why sperm cells cannot move very well by themselves nor last very long especially in hostile environments such as the UTERUS.
And I'm sure if you got a mouthful of this "mysterious" fluid more often, you'd also be less hostile. Bitch.
Tareq88 2 years ago
Yes, the word SPERM is mentioned in [23:13], but did you actually read the verse that comes right after???
Verse 23:14:
"Then We DEVELOPED the drop into the HANGING"
Now what could the Quran possibly mean when it says the sperm DEVELOPS INTO THE HANGING?
Tareq88 2 years ago
indeed...why would it say sperm develops into hanging, when the sperm fertilises the ovum OUTSIDE of the uterus and is no longer sperm when it affixes...and of course the hanging/clinging was KNOWN by the 4th century
no matter how hard you try you will NEVER be able to justify WHY mistaken beliefs of that era are included in koran...ITS KNOWN why ovum isnt mentioned, but YOU dont have a clue do you LOL
its time you were better 'informed' - youre not smart at all
proudfemale 2 years ago
The word "Hanging" [23:14] is differentiated from sperm [23:13], in which the Quran describes as "morphing into." This is referring to the zygote.
The hanging is referred to as "ALAQ" and sperm is referred to as "NUTFAH."
Sorry, try again :)
Tareq88 2 years ago
purleeze....SURELY you would know that I as a health professional KNOW that words sperm and hanging bear no connection to each other LOL
koran says human created from a drop emitted from between backbone/ribs...and SURELY you would know that 1400 yrs ago it was KNOWN that both male/female were involved LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
The martha stewart of "awakening" honors us with her presence!
Did you create this account to argue about something you just cant' seem to comprehend, even when it's presented to you in plain english?
Like it or not, I'm conscious, free-thinking with a sound faith in my religion. At the same time I'm a technocrat who likes to use his brain (which obviously seems to offend you) to find answers, not plagiarize hate literature from public toilets.
Who are you trying to fool? Yourself?
Tareq88 2 years ago
schooled by*
Tareq88 2 years ago
proudfemale (18 hours ago)
"koran says 'sperm lodged in its resting place"....but was it sperm then LOL"
proudfemale, were you born with down syndrome? You just answered your own question in the same statement (....ok...) but anyways, the verse that mentions "lodged" specifically uses the word sperm in [23:13], which I've posted at least six times, but due to your delayed mental skills, you still haven't realized that by now. It's ok, take your time :)
Tareq88 2 years ago
I know what your man made comic book says....but its not sperm that lodges/affixes in uterus you BACKWARD IGNORANT
so WHAT is the drop that koran says is emitted from between backbone/ribs re conception tareq? and FROM SPECIFICALLY where in that region LOL
you dont use your brain at all...I laughed when I saw you had written that LOL
you dont have a clue as to the sources of whats in your koran either..thats very evident/visible with you
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale (11 minutes ago)
"but its not sperm that lodges/affixes in uterus you BACKWARD IGNORANT"
Glad to see you now acknowledge the word SPERM is actually mentioned in the Quran. Good girl.
Tareq88 2 years ago
proudfemale, Quran doesn't say humans were blood clot, genius. There are stages. Read [23:13] :)
Moore and Persaud, two well-accredited Scientists, in the pubication "The Developing Human, 5th edition," said: "external appearances of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo... the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week, thus the embryo at this stage is like clot of blood."
Tareq88 2 years ago
dont LIE tareq...koran says you were once a blood clot, and doesnt mention external appearance at all...it says you WERE one
so what does the junk youve posted have to do with it lol
so THATS very clearly an error in your man made book - it was a mistaken belief of that era
now WHAT is the drop it refers to re conception as emitted from between backbone/ribs LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
and it NEVER mentions ovum or fertilisation - the very basics are missed out LOL
and it says its sperm that affixes in uterus...but IS IT????
YOU ARE NOT A SMART BOY at all are you tareq - very very gullible!!!
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale,
The Quran differentiates between sperm and semen; the word used is MANNY (in Arabic its مني ) which means semen.
And the word for Sperm is ( نطفة ). Try again :)
Tareq88 2 years ago
In Verse [ 96:1-3 ] the word alaq is mentioned and in [ 23-13-14] the English translation (dumbed down for you) is referred to as a lodging. Use your imagination, genius. What else could it be mentioning? Menstrual blood, like Aristotle assumed? LOL
Tareq88 2 years ago
koran says 'sperm lodged in its resting place"....but was it sperm then LOL
it NEVER mentions fertilisation which occurs before the zygote gets to the uterus
and semen DOESNT form any human life
humans form ONLY by sperm fertilising ovum
you can NEVER change the fact that koran PROVES the hoax and that muslims are LIED TO when indoctrinated thats its accurate
and there is NO EXCUSE for your desperation/ignorance in 2009 - wake up
proudfemale 2 years ago
right, and I'm sure Mohamed's companion who translated greek to arabic forgot to include the crucial detail of how miniature human beings in the menstrual blodd of the woman. Wow, you really exposed the hoax. The clouds have parted.
Tareq88 2 years ago
proudfemale, no one said anything about semen forming human life. You're still finding it hard to come to your senses after getting schooled the Quran that semen is produced in glands and not the testicles.
Tareq88 2 years ago
proudfemale, it's been weeks, and you have failed to find a single error in the Quran, other than present a layman's argument with no cited sources as backup.
And after 6 days of no replies posted, I figured now it was my turn to put YOUR religion to the test. So, again WHAT IS YOUR RELIGION?
Tareq88 2 years ago
you ADMIT that you want to know my religion is only to 'post errors' in it
never did I say muslims didnt contribute to science....but muslims seem to think that no knowledge/science existed prior to koran and they dont KNOW the sources of whats in it LOL
AND there are many errors in koran....e.g. not even you was ever a blood clot
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale (7 hours ago)
"you ADMIT that you want to know my religion is only to 'post errors' in it "
Like I said, you failed miserably in finding a single error or even presenting evidence. Any idiot can make a scientific statement, but without evidence or experiments, you're still just using a LAYMAN's argument, like the clowns at "Answering Islam."
And after 6 days, you couldn't muster a single reply, so now that it's done with, let's put YOUR religion to the test.
Tareq88 2 years ago
proudfemale (20 minutes ago)
"you DONT HAVE A CLUE about the sources of whats in your own comic book, do you "
My own comic book? I thought you said it was copied from the greeks, before which you said Islam and Muslims never contributed anyting to science.
Tareq88 2 years ago
proudfemale(10 minutes ago)
"if you were SMARTER you would know that mingled sperm is NOT referring to ovum"
Images of IVF (In Vitro Fertilization) are made possible by condensing and staining spermatozoa with DAPI
(Diamidino-2-phenylindole), distinguishing the X chromosome of the female sperm and the Y chromosome of the male sperm.
Tareq88 2 years ago
proudfemale (9 hours ago)
"and you, despite your insistence, were NEVER a blood clot "
Go read [23:12-14]. It's been there since the 7th century. The only one who keeps insisting that's in the Quran is you :)
"Man WE did create from a quintessence; then WE placed him a SPERM in a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then WE made the sperm a clot of congealed blood; then of that WE made a LUMP; then WE made out of that lump BONES and clothed the bones with FLESH."
Tareq88 2 years ago
yet again you yourself EXPOSE the nonsense in koran lol
is a zygote sperm when it affixes in the uterus?
a clot of congealed blood IS a blood clot...but NO HUMAN BEING was ever a blood clot, altho it was a 'belief' 1400 yrs ago
and has there ever been a foetus aborted with bones on the outside WAITING to be clothed LOL
if you were SMARTER you would know that mingled sperm is NOT referring to ovum......you DONT HAVE A CLUE about the sources of whats in your own comic book, do you LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale (4 minutes ago)
"is a zygote sperm when it affixes in the uterus?...and has there ever been a foetus aborted with bones on the outside to be clothed?"
Well the word used in this verse [ Verse 23] is "alaq" (In Arabic it's العلق ) which literally means "hanging onto a place."
Tareq88 2 years ago
the clinging/hanging was known in the 4th century.....and IS IT SPERM when it affixes in uterus...YES OR NO
'mingled' sperm is NOT referring to ovum....and why doesnt it mention fertilisation even
and you DISHNESTLY lied that you are a med student LOL
med students LEARN the origins of medicine
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale (2 minutes ago)
"the clinging/hanging was known in the 4th century"
This was Aristotle, who actually thought miniature human beings were clinging onto menstrual blood of the woman and the male sperm was the catalyst of that human's development. LOL
Tareq88 2 years ago
proudfemale (9 hours ago)
"its NOT referring to ovum"
In [76:2] it says نُّطۡفَةٍ أَمۡشَاجٍ۬ (nutfah) mingled sperms, (ie mingled male and female agents).
Tareq88 2 years ago
proudfemale (9 hours ago)
"and koran NEVER mentions sperm, fertilisation, OR ovum"
Look up [76:2], where the Arabic word is "nutfah" نُّطۡفَةٍ أَمۡشَاجٍ۬ which literally means "mingled sperms"
(as in mingled male and female agents, forming a zygote)
Tareq88 2 years ago
its NOT referring to ovum...why dont you LEARN why it says what it does and you will see how it 'ties in exactly' with mistaken beliefs of that era
and since when does sperm come from anywhere but the testes in scrotum
and why does it never mention ovum or fertilisation???
you obviously are very weak/very gullible that you accept such as 'divine' or truth lol
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale, just wondering are you Christian?
Tareq88 2 years ago
why would you ask ? is what I am or believe relevant?
proudfemale 2 years ago
So I can show you how many scientific errors there are in your religion.
Tareq88 2 years ago
I knew thats why you wanted to know....its always amusing that a muslim will try to NEGATE/EXCUSE islam by bringing up another religion lol
nothing can 'sanitise' the filth and immorality of the hoax of islam
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale(9 hours ago)
"why dont you contact an ex muslim doctor called Atheer on utube...learn what he has to say"
ok, can you please provide me the link to the video? :)
Tareq88 2 years ago
and you think they might find the 'sun really does set in muddy water' LOL
Verse [18:86] is talking about western expedition of Zul Qarnayn, not extreme west. Just like how if I say the Sun rises from the East, you shouldnt assume Im saying, The Sun pops out of Fiji or Japan.
But anyways, back to the verse. The muddy water is referring to the body of water in Lychnitis (now Orchida), west of Macedonia. Due to the underground spring in a limestone region, the water appears muddy.
Tareq88 2 years ago
you OOZE DISHONESTY ...what makes you so backwardly ignorant and visibly STUPID
the koran says 'sun prostrates and sets in muddy water'
what on earth do you mean by 'extreme' west....you get more and more AMUSING TO WATCH, getting yourself so tied up in knots
its time you grew up...faced some truths/realities
koran PROVES the hoax and that muslims are LIED TO.....no matter how desperate you are to believe, its a fact youve been CONNED due to your cowardice and weakness
proudfemale 2 years ago
"what on earth do you mean by 'extreme' west"
Extreme west as in "the western edge of the earth" as in if the earth were flat and not a sphere. DUH
Tareq88 2 years ago
And yes, I KNOW the earth may not be a PERFECT sphere, but it is roughly shaped like a sphere.
I used "sphere" because it seems more relative to our perception than, say, an ellipsoid, which it technically is.
Tareq88 2 years ago
extreme west LOL
but the earth is NOT flat despite just several years ago a muslim Minister of Science in the ME issuing of the 'flat earth fatwa'
and koran NEVER mentions sperm, fertilisation OR ovum
why dont you contact an ex muslim doctor called Atheer on utube...learn what he has to say
and you are NOT a med student so WHY did you feel the need to LIE like you did
you're just weak and gullible..islam relies on that lol
proudfemale 2 years ago
" but the earth is NOT flat despite just several years ago a muslim Minister of Science in the ME issuing of the 'flat earth fatwa' "
And what about the Muslim scientists who say the earth isn't flat? Have you given up on trying to find scientific errors in the Quran?
Tareq88 2 years ago
do you not even know WHY the flat earth fatwa was issued?
and of course scientists today say earth isnt flat....but koran says earth is like a 'bed'
tell me what kind of bed is shaped like a ball
re errors in koran...theyre there for ALL to see
e.g. sun doesnt set in muddy water LOL, and you, despite your insistence, were NEVER a blood clot
proudfemale 2 years ago
Ok, I'm still waiting for the link I asked for.
Tareq88 2 years ago
"the koran says you were once a blood clot...but you were NEVER one"
According to Moore and Persaud, in The Developing Human, 5th ed., p. 65, "external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo... the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week. Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood."
Tareq88 2 years ago
koran doesnt say 'looks like' it says YOU WERE and thats a huge difference
and surely you would /should know that Prof Moore has refused to talk or publish re koran for past 10 + years now...and more importantly WHY
any med student (that you claim to be) would know that the composition of an embryo is NOTHING LIKE a blood clot lol
and mingled is NOT referring to ovum..and koran DOESNT USE THE WORD SPERM
proudfemale 2 years ago
" and mingled is NOT referring to ovum..and koran DOESNT USE THE WORD SPERM "
In [76:2] in the Quran, the words used are نُّطۡفَةٍ أَمۡشَاجٍ۬ (nutfah) which literally mean mingled sperms, (ie mingled male female agents, forming a zygote).
Tareq88 2 years ago
but its NOT referring to ovum and it NEVER mentions sperm...its time you LEARNED why the nonsense that is in your koran is in it lol...you need to get 'better informed' as to the sources of the junk in it
you make an IDIOT of yourself with your continual desperation....and I will keep 'showing you and the hoax of islam up'
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale (1 day ago)
"it NEVER mentions sperm"
In [76:2] in the Quran, the words used are نُّطۡفَةٍ أَمۡشَاجٍ۬ (nutfah) which literally mean mingled sperms, (ie mingled male female agents, forming a zygote).
Tareq88 2 years ago
"koran doesnt say 'looks like' it says YOU WERE and thats a huge difference"
The Quran doesn't say "started out as blood clot." Infact, that is near the last stage, according to [23:12-14]
"Man WE did create From a quintessence; Then WE placed him as sperm In a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then WE made the sperm Into a clot of congealed blood; Then of that clot WE made a lump; then WE Made out of that lump Bones and clothed the bones With flesh;"
Tareq88 2 years ago
the koran says you WERE a blood clot....but you NEVER WERE
and the place of rest is the uterus but kona doesnt say SPERM and is it sperm when an embryo affixes to the uterus
Im LAUGHING that YOU are showing all how the koran is so WRONG....not even you as a desperate muslim wimp was EVER a blood clot, so WHY does your koran include what was a mistaken belief in your comic book
and is any foetus bones on the outside WAITING to be clothed LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
6) Quran describes exploded galaxies looking like roses. Verse 55:37
7) The moon is mentioned 28 times in the Quran, which is the exact number of times it appears to us.
8) Greeks thought speed of light was infinite, but in the Quran, Verse (10:5), it talks about the solar gravitational field on geocentric orbital motion of the moon. (21:33) discusses the sun, moon, and earth having their own orbits. (32:5) uses length of moons' orbit and time of one day as being correlated for velocity.
Tareq88 2 years ago
I 'repeat'...there is nothing that is both accurate AND clearly written in koran that wasnt already known then...this is WHY most scientists/academics reject it
and the MISTAKEN BELIEFS OF THAT ERA also included in it PROVE that its a hoax when muslims are brainwashed its accurate
next thing you will be trying to tell me is that 'yawning really is from satan' and not about regulating the temperature of brain LOL
and YOU thought you were a blood clot too...how amusing!!!
proudfemale 2 years ago
"this is WHY most scientists/academics reject it"
I could do the same and say MOST do accept the Quran, but we'd be going in circles.
Can you actually verify with an actual list comparing number of academics who reject vs those who attest?
Science ALWAYS makes a u-turn, scientists debate with one another. There are no eternal universal theories.
The least they do is BACK UP THEIR CLAIMS WITH EVIDENCE, which you have to this day FAILED to do. Just bluff like a pseudo-scientist or shaman.
Tareq88 2 years ago
wrong yet again tareq...you CANNOT say most accept the koran because that would be a LIE
evidently you seem to think that one day science will make a u turn re embryology LOL
sorry kid....its an IRREFUTABLE FACT that no human being was ever a blood clot, that ovum is ALWAYS necessary and that sperm does NOT emit from between backbone/ribs
and you think they might find the 'sun really does set in muddy water' LOL
you are one desperate ignoramus LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
"sperm does NOT emit from between backbone/ribs"
It doesn't say "sperm" it mentions SEMEN. [86:6-7]
What a pity! You didn't know that Semen is actually produced in the glands WHICH HAPPENS TO BE LOCATED BETWEEN THE RIBS AND BACKBONE, did you? :)
Tareq88 2 years ago
i KNOW it doesnt mention sperm, ovum or fertilisation
but NO human being starts life by 'semen' you IDIOT
and WHY is the koran so VAGUE re such an area as between backbone/ribs
have you been taught, as a med student, how the backbone story matches Aritstotles MISTAKE
so koran PROVES in writing that muslims are LIED TO re accuracy - what a hoax
you even tried to tell me EVERYONE was a blood clot (because you are gullible re korans deceit) LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
"but NO human being starts life by 'semen' you IDIOT"
Well then look up [76:2] in the Quran :)
"Verily we created Man from a drop Of mingled SPERM."
Tareq88 2 years ago
I provide you with EVIDENCE of the hoax/deceit....just READ the koran LOL
there's your evidence for ALL to see
why dont you research things like medical info...and learn that in the UK where 1.4% of babies born are Pakistani, yet these babies make up a STAGGERING 30% of those born with birth defects!!! can you do maths
do you KNOW what muslims say when they SHOW they dont care....'its the will of allah"
proudfemale 2 years ago
no you didn't provide a single evidence... just using caps lock and "LOL"
If you make an assertion, then BACK IT UP with examples.
Tareq88 2 years ago
now you want to infer that muslims dont excuse such things by saying 'its the will of allah'?
and if you were a med student (like you DISHONESTLY CLAIMED) YOU WOULD KNOW the huge disparity in numbers of muslim babies born with birth defects AND the cause
the koran says you were once a blood clot...but you were NEVER one
the koran talks about a 'drop emitted' from between backbone/.ribs re conception...WHAT drop
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale, no scientist (especially someone with a reputation like these two you mentioned) would put their reputation on the line and risk excommunication from the scientific community.
The last time Keith Moore replied to someone accusing Mohamed (pbuh) of copying from someone else, he told him: "You missed an important point. All these slide shows were taken from a MICROSCOPE. It doesn't matter if Mohamed tried to copy from someone."
Tareq88 2 years ago
you're YEARS behind wimp.....I KNOW what Moore said when commissioned to speak at a Saudi conference
LEARN what has transpired since
Bucaille ADMITS koran is not compatible with science, as do MANY ACADEMICS
they say koran plagiarises early greek literature
you obviously are not SMART at all...and too scared to know the sources of whats in it lol
its time you got yourself BETTER INFORMED
proudfemale 2 years ago
1) Aristotle was wrong about genders of bees, whereas the Quran is correct. Verses 68 and 69
2) Julius Wellhausen claimed the Quran was mentioning a fictional place that was a myth (the place was called Emad). Archaeologists uncovered the ruins of Emad in 1996. Verse 89:6
3) Quran is the only source that locates the lowest point on earth. Verse 30:1-4
4) Iron came from outer space. Verse 25
5) Quran mentions barriers between fresh and salt water. Verse 55:19
Tareq88 2 years ago
10) Abu-Mahmud al-Khujandi invented the sextant.
11) Ja'far al-Balkhi: mathematician/ astronomer who influenced Aristotle's theory on nature.
12) Al-Ghazali (11th century): philosopher/ cosmologist, formulated atomic theory: "atoms are the only perpetual, material things in existence, all else is 'accidental.' Published 'The Deliverer from Error,' contains detailed anatomical description of the cadavers he dissected. First to divide sensory motives of humans
Tareq88 2 years ago
WHAT has 'islam' the religion contributed to science....whats accurate in koran was known before it, AND it also has 'errors/constradictions' in it
I do laugh that you are so visibly gullible....the only thing islam does is HARM/ DECEIVE/CONTROL the weak and those denied the right to choose
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale (1 hour ago):
"...whats accurate in koran was known before it, AND it also has 'errors/constradictions' in it."
Ok, dummy-sitting-in-the-dark, grab on to my coat and follow me. Don't let the light blind you.
Sea "bahr" is mentioned 32 times in the Quran.
Land "al-bar" is 13 times.
Adding words of both "sea" and "land" we get 45.
After a simple calculation:
32 divided by 45, times 100, equals 71.11111111%
13 divided by 45, times 100, equals 28.88888888%
Tareq88 2 years ago
its an IRREFUTABLE FACT that whats accurate in koran was known before it 'dummy'....how come you obviously DONT HAVE A CLUE of science/medicine/knowledge of over 1,000 years before it AND that many academics claim koran plagiarises early greek literature and have proofs
so WHAT on earth does 45 or 71.11 have to do with this fact you IDIOT
how come you lack the mental capacity to grasp the fact that we SEE the errors/mistakes staring us all in the face...but muslims FEAR looking
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale (1hour ago):
"so WHAT on earth does 45 or 71.11 have to do with this fact you IDIOT"
71.11% of the earth's surface is water. Dumbass.
Tareq88 2 years ago
Ive seen muslims (who are backwardly stupid enough to THINK they were once blood clots) come unstuck over the NONSENSE in koran time and time again
now did allah KNOW about global warming re water LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale (2 days ago):
"now did allah KNOW about global warming re water LOL"
Are you too much of a senile, old hag to google it? Be a good girl and read:
[18:90]
[2:29]
[41: 11-12]
[71:15]
[67:3]
Tareq88 2 years ago
you have removed your NONSENSE post , but of course I still have it
yes, we know the blood clot ERROR has been koran koran for 1400 years....but WHY in 2009 would any adult believe such ?
you seem to think that because its in your man made comic book of filth/deceit it must make it true LOL
why are you such a backward wimp...not a REAL man and too SCARED to think for yourself
I pity you...allowing yourself to be TOTALLY CONTROLLED re taught irrational fears LOL
proudfemale 2 years ago
proudfemale (2 days ago):
"Ive seen muslims (who are backwardly stupid enough to THINK they were once blood clots) come unstuck over the NONSENSE in koran time and time again"
Are you too stupid to simply google? It's been there in [31:14] in the Quran for over 1400 years? You've probably been around before computers were invented. I doubt you even know how to turn a computer on without the help of your grand children LOL
Tareq88 2 years ago
tareq...WHAT has caused you to be so backward/ignorant and so SCARED of acknowledging or facing irrefutable facts
you TRIED TO TELL ME you were a blood clot LOL
what 'gave' you such a backward idea in 2009
come on...why on earth would any adult THINK they were a blood clot LOL
and WHAT is the drop emitted from between backbone/ribs koran refers to re conception???
do tell wimp
proudfemale 2 years ago
Looks like the rat couldn't resist the cheese :)
The comment I removed exposes what a lazy, half-witted dumass you really are...
You are so stupid it is too much fun to leave your comments alone: And the reason I decided not to correct it or post a second one was because the specific verse was actually [23:14] not [31:14].
For the sake of argument, let's see your worthless opinion about embryology versus Keith L. Moore, who's not even a Muslim yet he makes references to the Quran.
Tareq88 2 years ago
You dumass, the reason the comment was removed was due to the fact that the verse I was referring to was in {23:14] and not [31:14].
Wow, even with your laziness you couldn't take the time to at least [31:14] and see what verse that is LOOOOL
By the way, it's not Muslims making reference to the Quran about embryology, it's non-Muslims who specialize in this field such as KEITH MOORE.
Tareq88 2 years ago
I'm so glad you brought up Prof Moore LOL
SURELY SURELY you would/SHOULD know that for past 10 + years Moore has refused to talk/publish re koran and, more importantly 'WHY' this is so - even Bucaille admits the errors
what makes you TOO SCARED to face the truths re sources of whats in your man made book ...i.e both whats accurate and what are MISTAKEN BELIEFS of that era
you dont know whats transpired re Moore...how BACKWARD are you lol?
proudfemale 2 years ago
Maurice Bucaille: "in Islam, science and religion have always been twin sisters... there are monumental errors of science in the Bible and not a single error in the Quran, whose descriptions of natural phenomena make it compatible with modern science. Bucaille concludes that the Qur'an is the reliable word of God."
Keith Moore: "It is clear to me these statements must have come to Mohamed from God or Allah because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later."
Tareq88 2 years ago
7) The first medical peer review was written by Ishaq bin Ali al-Rahwi.
8) Ibn Firnas: first engineer to fly and simulate weathers.
9) Al-Khawarizmi: mathematician who devised the foundation of modern algebra, such as polynomial equations, reduction, algorithm, and introduced decimal points. Also invented the sine, horary quadrants. Also corrected Ptolemy's depiction of the Atlantic and Indian Ocean by proving they are open bodies of water, not land-locked as Ptolemy suggested.
Tareq88 2 years ago
5) Ibn Hayyan: the chemist accredited with the discovery of Sulfuric acid, hydrochloric acid, nitric acid, acetic acid, Arsenic, Bismuth, Sulfur, and Mercury.
6) Abu Bakr ibn Zakariya ar-Razi is the first physician to diagnose, accurately describe, and successfully treat small pox, measles, discovered that hay fever is a natural defense mechanism against disease, devised pediatrics as a seperate branch of medicine, and was a medical advisor for the public, exposed charlatans on many occasions.
Tareq88 2 years ago
I read some good comments here. Ive read some mean comments here. Hate, we know, solves nothing......the solution is in the problem-ECONOMICS. Yemen has to develop an economic system that is unique to its conditions and ppl. It has to be studied and put into action. Something better than talk and theory. TRY something in one area. If it works-use it in another. GULF nations can help via loans;grants;and investments. PPL in yemen just need a start. They can do the rest..they are natural merchants
translationwiz 2 years ago
Yemen doesn't really have any capital market or systems tied to the international financial system, which is why it is insulated it from the current global financial crisis.
Yemen's economic situation is kind of complicated. For decades, it was always at a state of war and occasionally had shaky or frozen relations with neignboring countries, which led to the expulsion of 1 million Yemeni workers from Saudi Arabia. Today within Yemeni society corruption is rampant and resources are limited.
Tareq88 3 years ago
surprise surprise...a muslim society corrupt/dishonest and children suffering
and yet all the 'weak submissive males subjugating themselves to allah' will be sticking their asses in the air and claiming, as taught, how superior they are as muslims...WHILST the children suffer
proudfemale 3 years ago
Um, Yemen is not under the rule of Islamic law, and has not been for the last 200 years, as well as all the other Muslim-majority nations.
The fact you generalize only shows what an intellectually bankrupt idiot you are. Please go bother someone else with your stupidity, you filthy kafir.
Tareq88 3 years ago
did I say it was under rule of islamic law you fool....but MOST of its people are muslim and what we see in yemen is also prevalent in other muslim majority countries
how did you feel when Yemeni Govt wanted to outlaw fgm...but islamic leaders IN YEMEN intervened to prevent this law being passed
they wanted the barbarity to continue
WHY is there such misery for millions of children in muslim countries...do you feel SHAME
proudfemale 3 years ago
You said MUSLIM SOCIETY.
Yemeni government is secular and jails many of the Islamic leaders and scholars, who voice the opposition to it.
Get real, this is the 21st century, the time where humans have evolved to a point where they can tolerate other people's faiths, not dwell in the darkness of the Feudal ages and create contention between each other. The only barbaric person is you.
Tareq88 3 years ago
how childish to say Im barbaric tareq...when its ME who 'cares' about the countless millions of innocent victims of islam...those denied rights/harmed/mutilated and you as a muslim SHOW you dont give a dam when like all muslims, you sit in SILENT ACQUIESCENCE
yes, I said muslim society....are the majority of yemeni citizens muslim?
yes or no?
do you KNOW how your leaders recently intervened re fgm, wanting the practice to continue...yes or no
proudfemale 3 years ago
If you don't want to be called barbaric, then I suggest you stop behaving like it. You generalize Muslims for economic problems rampant ALL over the world, including the other 4/5 of humans who aren't humans.
I am a citizen of Yemen, and I speak for every Yemeni when I say we need new leadership, one which strictly observes Islamic law, not this corrupt secular democracy.
First of all, there's a reason it's called the REPUBLIC of Yemen, not ISLAMIC EMIRATE of Yemen, barbaric kafir.
Tareq88 3 years ago
humans who aren't Muslims*
Tareq88 3 years ago
what on earth makes you think strictly observing islamic law will improve things lol
do you think all females are prepared to accept the degradation/denial of equality that islamic law imposes?
do you think DEATH PENALTY for those who dont believe is going to make a 'happy healthy society'
do you think DENIAL OF RIGHT TO CHOOSE whether to even be muslim or not is going to make for success?
you are deluded...and obviously know ZILCH about human beings or morality
proudfemale 3 years ago
I don't think, I know for a fact Islamic law will improve things, you fascist pig.
And you know why I call you a fascist? You try to force your ideology down other people's throats, and tell them how to run their own countries.
History shows that under Islamic law, the Muslims prospered and reached the peak of civilization.
It doesn't matter what you think, because even now we see who's suffering from depravity. Why don't you compare crime rates between the Middle East and the West?
Tareq88 3 years ago
history doesnt show muslims prospered at all...it shows civilisations were advanced prior to islam and once islam took over things started to deteriorate...so you DONT KNOW at all, you have been TOLD it would
about crime rates....rape/incest/pedophilia/killing/corruption/domestic abuse are RAMPANT within your ummah
remember what we regard and report as crime is NOT regarded as a crime in the ummah
YOU are wanting countries to be run islamically....so does that make you a fascist
proudfemale 3 years ago
islam is fair
bacyem 2 years ago
oh really bacyem
what is FAIR about
-people born into the ummah denied the right to choose
-a penalty of MURDER for non belief
-children BEATEN for not praying properly
-adult women denied equality AND required to 'obey/subjugate' to males or be PUNISHED
-wife BEATING as islamically sanctioned
-muslims LIED TO re koran being accurate/divine when we see the ERRORS STARING US ALL IN THE FACE
-people LIVING WITH FEAR/CONTROLLED because of TAUGHT irrational fears
proudfemale 2 years ago
everything that you mentioned is not islam.
bacyem 2 years ago
oh really...sadly EVERYTHING that I mentioned IS DEFINITELY islam
its sick and evil to its very backward immoral core...and right now is vulnerable because NOT ALL born into the ummah are prepared to accept the deceit/hoax or SUPPORT what it causes
proudfemale 2 years ago