RON PAUL, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR AN ANSWER! TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW EXACTLY RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? OK LETS SAY ALL TROOPS CAME BACK AND THEN WHAT? THEY ARE GOING TO SELL IPHONES AND BLACKBERRIES? DUDE BE A MEN, HOW RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? POPULATION OF CHINA IS 1.4 B CHINESE WORK LIKE ROBOTS, BE HONEST TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BUY UR BOOK U NEED CASH , U LOVE POWER, U LOVE CASH, U WILL NEVER CREATE JOBS, U HAVE NO ANSWER!
This is the only man who wish to restore the real values of American democracy. Today America is the symbol of brutal bullying thugs in the most of eyes in this world. Sen. Paul is the only hope of America to change the current global reputation it has now.
@ransom22 of course! and ya know what? who cares if the poor get thrown out of hospitals!? who cares that if i have a potentially life-threatening disease i wont be insured and thrown out on my ass!? and lastly, who cares that in 50 years 99% of all of our incomes will go straight to insurance companies and we won't have a dime to spend on ourselves!? sounds like the life to me (: ...but hey, at least we'll be faithful to listening to some f****** austrians!!!
@underoathsnowboarder While I think the Austrian school does have a better system, I share your concern for the poor. If we do implement an Austrian economic theory without any control whatsoever, we would be trading federal control for corporate -- one evil for another. However, I think an Austrian system that allows for anti-trust lawsuits to protect smaller companies (insurance or otherwise) would promote competition and help prevent high level control, which is what all people should fear.
Have any of you read any books on Universal Health Care and Obamacare pro's and con's? Well I for one have and let me just tell you this. By repealing this law and going back to our old health care system, this is FACT, the government WILL be spending 25% of its GDP on health care. In 15 years, we could potentially be spending a majority of our income on health care. If we don't repeal obamacare and it goes through will we be taxed? yes. But it will be miles better than going broke!
@underoathsnowboarder The repeal of Obamacare is only a first step to getting the government out of health care all together. The more we rely on Keynesian thinking the faster we move towards bankruptcy and a complete government takeover of the economy and industry. However, if people would read history and realize the Austrian economists were right, there's still a chance that our nation can be spared.
Obamacare promised to be less expensive but I just got a notice that my Civil Service Pension Health Insurance increased by 50% Feb 1, 2011, And in January I got the notice my COLA will not go up because there has been no inflation in Obama's USA. Is that correct? Hell, No! We need repeal Obamacare and we need to terminate Obama, his administration and all liars that would rule and rob us..
2012 can not come soon enough. Can any of you say "impeachment"? Hopefully this dispicable ass clown as left enough dirty laundry behind him and the new congress can find something to impeach him with.
It is not over until this criminal is out of office.
Those that elected him are responsible for our current plight.
We need to repeal health care now obama care is just pure fascism and this represents the fascist coup on America by the federal government VIA Israel !
ron paul i supported you for your whole election and now your a mainstream republican... ill never give my vote to a "free market capitalist" again, did ron paul plan on cutting our HUGE military spending?... he says giving taxes back to people is stealing, but CEO's making profit off others work is just good buisness... republicans/tea party is just a corporate party
Great video. And I'm glad to not see a bunch of idiots who obviously don't know what they are talking about writing crap like "Paul/Nader '12." It drives me nuts when people put Paul and Nader in the same category. They have very different beliefs.
Just because Nader is a third-party candidate, doesn't mean he is anything like Ron Paul.
Fed infusing the USA by printing another 600 Billion Dollars will allow us to enjoy 1970's inflation, probably long lines at Gas Stations and soooo much more. I can't wait for 20% interest rates, and the beauty is when the USA does it the rest of the world may follow so we will enjoy so many splendid benefits. Allan H. Melzer wrote an interesting article WSJ Thursday 11/4/10 "Milton Freedman Vs. the Fed".
Nice hearing from you "Happy days are here again (1970's)" I can't wait for all markets to crash internationally. With all the splendid HOPE and CHANGE we appear to be heading toward competing with the Greek Economy. Bravo Mr. President, and you can Blame Bush all you like, but the truth has a way of coming out, and I do see much I did not like about Bush, but if there was an election today - Obama Vs. GW Bush, I am supremely confident, GW Bush would win. Regards MrD =)
@centenosparky While I doubt we could pull enough of the voters heads out of their asses long enough to get a government that actually gave a crap and were not out for themselves, I do agree with the fear that the powers that be would help Mr Paul join Kennedy/Lincoln in the history books.
In communist Poland there was this so called "free" health care. And the govt's point of honour was to eradicate tuberculosis. For years they were giving vaccines to people, and finally they announced great victory and that there is no more tuberculosis in Poland....
Now 1 in every 4 people in this country is a carrier of the bactera of tuberculosis. This is how "free" health care works. Oh and if you believe that it is free, then you are just plain stupid. It's of your taxes.
americans have got to stop repeat offenders, vote themout of office. DID THIS WE ARE CONSTANTLY TOLD THAT THE EXPERTS ARE ON TOP OF IT, THE EXPERTS? THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT HAVE US IN A $14 TRILLION DEFICIT, CALIF HAS EXPERTS IN SACRAMENTO, WE ARE $45 BILLION IN DEFICIT AND SINKING. l A IS INDEFICIT, HOW ABOUT WE GO IT WITHOUT EXPERTS? WE CAN'T AFFORDE THEM.
Im not too worried about it. Once the effects of obamacare hits it and the people feel the effects the cry is going to be so big that Washington is going to be forced to repel it.
The only way to stop this is to stop the fuel needed to keep a system that will allways be CORRUPT going. This is the Symptom not the (Bad Guy). Fix the System end this... it just tacks you...
The government/Obama is spending our country into debt that we will never be able to get out of. Wake up people, that is why our economy is in the toilet right now, because the American people spent beyond their means, buying housing they could not afford, etc. Please take a basic economics class. The people fund the government through taxes, therefore, when they overspend by trillions of dollars and pile up more and more debt, WE THE TAX PAYERS WILL BE PAYING OFF THE GOVERNMENTS DEBT.
I hope Mr. Ron Paul Runs for Pres. in 2012 and doesn't plan on dropping out like he did before I was disappointed when he did so last election and we the people were forced to let the system win - even if their is no chance of him winning because of pre-chosen president before public has chance of even seeing him cause of Bilderburg group choosings....Ron Paul 2012!!
Which are the differences? There are many but one of them is monetary policy. While Bundesbank (and now ECB) mandate is "stability", the Federal Reserve mandate is promoting growth, which means orchestrate massive credit expansion. German have a vivid memory of hyperinflation in the 1920s
During late 90s and 2000s, US GDP was growing at 4 o 5 % rate. While german growth was close to 0 to 1%. Many americans mocked Germany then. What did really happen in those years? Germany reduced labor costs and wages, citizens sacrified part of their living standards and households and business reduced debt. They became the world biggest exporter nation. On the other hand, americans grew under mountains of private debt, rising prices, cheap labor, hyper-consumption and larger trade deficits.
Ron Paul isn't president because he wants to return control of our country to the people and the people who really run the show will never let that happen...money men control our economy through the Federal Reserve and the opinions of average Americans with the media...Glenn Beck and John Stewart are two sides of the same rotten coin...the media keeps us so polarized that we wind up fighting each other instead of addressing the real issues
2012 would deliver a Republican senate and Republican president.
2014 would likely increase the Republican majority in the senate.
Litigation can stay Obamacare and strike down large portions of the bill. States can demand that the law become null and void under the ninth and tenth amendment. The insurance mandate is unconstitutional under the 5th, 9th, and 10th. Congress can defund the bill. And within five years, this monstrosity will be repealed.
Castro hailed Obamacare as a miracle and an important battle and a success of (Obamas) government. Castro stated Obamas health care is like the one enacted in Cuba a half century ago. Last year Castro said his countrys spending on health care was simply unsustainable.
@optionqb: Yes, we do have the best healthcare in the world, but you DONT GET THE POINT. If you aren't lucky enough to have a job that offers insurance, or you don't have the means to pay $1000 a month, THEN YOU DONT HAVE ACCESS TO IT, SO WHAT GOOD IS IT? @Madoculus, what do you mean, it's a privilege? Should the Fire Department or the Police be a privilege too? Why should healthcare be any different from other aspects of our infranstructure? Healthcare couldn't get much WORSE for the poor.
Our national debt is at 90% of our GDP. We are fighting two wars and have been for eight years. We are in the middle of an economic crisis almost as bad as the Great depression. During the great depression, our national debt was 120% of the GDP. The debt was paid off n 20 years (within the lifetime of the people who voted for the spending). I agree that 90% of our GDP is a little scary, but If you look at the facts we are much better off now than we were then. Health care reform is one step.
peoplepower, what brought us out of the great depression? i'll tell u - people couldn't buy stuff during ww2, so they saved, they had no choice, and when the war ended, that pent up savings fueled the flying 40s - our situation is quite different now, we are mired in debt, and have incredibly bad trade treaties, we're doomed and there's no reason to have any optimism.
@megagagnon1 I think that almost every economist would disagree with you. The three main factors were FDR's social policies, BORROWING money to fund a war, and time(it heals all wounds). It is more than likely a combination of all three to one degree or another. Also, our debt is less than what we had going into WWII(when adjusted for inflation). As far as trade agreements are concerned, there needs to be reform but good luck convincing Americans to give up walmart and Mickey D's.
people kenesian economists would disagree with me, but austrian economists would agree with me, and common sense would also. most americans are in debt, and most obviously the govt is, $12,4 trillion national debt plus all the trillions of unfunded entitlements plus all the tens of billions in debt all the states are, most especially california arizona and new york
@megagagnon1 As for Austrian economics agreeing with you or not, that is debatable. History tells us that during the great depression, 28% of the country was unemployed. How are you going to save money if your unemployed? Likewise, how are you going to start a business if you don't borrow money? Whether from a bank, or a relative or investors? I agree the debt is crazy right now, but the fix isn't to freeze all spending. The fix is to reform healthcare and the financial markets.
peoplepower part of the problem is our trade agreements, nafta cafta wto, we can't compete with countries that pay workers a dollar a day - we must produce wealth if we hope to get rid of our debt. health care is irrelevant in that struggle.
@megagagnon1 Yes, part of the problem is our trade deficit. But so is financial reform and, yes health care reform. There is plenty of information out there on how reforming health care will help reduce our national debt and grow the GDP. This healthcare bill is not perfect by any means, but it is a start. The problem is it doesn't do enough. Obama needs to crack heads and get this done and ignore all the "the sky is falling" crap being flung around.
@megagagnon1 I'm not saying that you are flinging crap around. I''m just saying that there is a lot of henny penny talk going around and I don't see to many people trying to have an intelligent conversation about the issues.
During the Great Depression America was not the biggest debtor in the world, and there was not a huge trade deficit. Japan public debt is around 200% of GDP but they are still one the biggest net creditors, with Germany and China. It means they are very productive, exporters and don´t need others to get into debt. US budget deficit this year is 2/3 of overall german, french or italian State debt. While so many countries are struggling with deficits, you have a privilege: you print the "gold".
Secondly, and please forgive the appeal to authority, the overwhelming majority of economists have said that there is no advantage to not having a national debt and in fact not borrowing money when you need to can be detrimental. Take a chill pill. No one reformed the lending market before the crash. That's our big problem. Reforming the banks and insurance is the only way to fix the crisis and reduce debt. They're not going to do it themselves, they never have. Their job is to make money.
@megagagnon1 I"M saying that from what I have read most economists say that there is no advantage to not having a debt. Should scientific advancement be put on hold until you save up the money to fund the research? Should people go without a levy in New Orleans until they have enough pennies in their piggy banks to pay for it? Would that help or hinder economic growth? I agree that the debt is high right now. Health care reform, like financial reform is how we get back on track.
I cannot loose power over my own life unless I agree to relinquish it. I do not consent to anyone or any government making my life choices for me. If you have a social program to sell, give me your pitch and maybe I'll buy it. But I will always reserve the power of final consent for my life, liberty and justly acquired property.
fuck off and so what if i didnt spell right go cry to your mom your all crazy republicans sick in the head all you care about is what you want and if any one gets in your way you cry about it get over it you lost power
There's really one solution to all this mess, quite clear, quite simple, will make all the difference in the world. No, not Gold, not Silver; that's silly talk. Make the Federal Reserve a public bank with each taxpayer a share holder. In this way the money will stop draining out to foreigners and instead come back to the people who work honestly hard for it. Its exactly the only fix that will work. The foreigners have taken too much and deserve no more. Let's create the Amero today!
one thing that i have learned is, don't believe everything the government tells you, check out the controlled media, off shore corps, outsourcing , overtaxing, ex orders. you say F.E.M.A. can't use u.n. troops on u.s.streets? if it comes down to tea parties getting loud don't you think wash. would use anyone for anything? naci de noche pero no anoche.
Let's not forget that the problems Obama/Pelosi/Reid were trying to address (well, in their sick and twisted point of view) were created by government intervention in the health care and insurance industry in the mid 20th century. Their predecessors in the democrat party caused it and are now using it as an excuse to further government intervention. Real reform, just like Ron Paul's "Revolution", would be to strip out the heavy bureaucracies and let the people take care of themselves.
BOO HOO FUCK OFF RON PAUL GET OVER IT YOU LOST POWR SO STOP CRYING YOU CRAZY CYCLE PATH REPUBLICANS open your eyes people dont lisen to this bull shit . wow how the republicans love to complicate minds. like i sed cycle paths
its psycho path you moron!! no wonder your a freakin liberal!! Go back to school and quit supporting that socialist verge on communist so called leader of ours!
Wow, dumb ass. I bet your a Obama supporter. To blinded by the media to see he is the first black puppet president, a CEO of the corperation "U.S.A". Sorry to burst your bubble, but he's controlled by the same people that controlled Bush. Ron Paul's the only republican who ran, that was not controlled by elite bankers.
Good luck repealing the regulations like those that now prevent insurance companies from dropping or denying you or your children over pre-existing conditions. Not going to happen.
o no the national debt will increase by 2 trillion. help the deficit help the deficit. i wonder who created that deficit and financial destruction of the u.s...riiight the republican ex president.
@nitemarestlk you are very simple minded. america has been over spending for the last 45 years. repubs and dems have destroyed this country, obama has just stepped on the gas and is heading for the cliff at 90 miles an hour, not 55.
talking about bnkrpcy man i filed 2007 could not pay my mrgdg too hi man -man if u think u need medicare call those those dumb ass senator/officials from your state and tell them u need it .but if u dont shut the fk up. and i have about 4000 dollar emmergency bill for my dad when he had a heart surgery u know what i will get a lawyer and couple median go to my senitor and ask him to pay the fkng bill / make it 1/4 .5 i can pay for it and the pay the rest .
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@Radwar99 Ron Paul has never been right about anything having to do with the economy. for thirty years Ron Paul has been predicting the imminent collapse of the dollar and hyperinflation. For thirty years Ron Paul has been DEAD WRONG. Face facts. The man does not know what he is talking about.
@Richardgwm He hasn't been predicting the "imminent" collapse of the economy for 30 years. That's a mischaracterization of his career. He has been warning for years that unsound monetary and fiscal policies will eventually lead to economic ruin, and he was right. Furthermore, most of the few who foresaw this housing bubble and the "Great Recession" (soon to be renamed the "Greater Depression") were libertarians and Austrian School economists.
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@hpd707 Ron Paul has been DEAD WRONG for 30 years. There is no interpretation of reality under which Ron Paul's predictions have actually come true. For thirty years, Ron Paul has been predicting the imminent collapse of the US dollar and hyperinflation. That is not a mischaracterization. That is what the man has been predicting. The US dollar has NOT collapsed. The US has NOT experienced hyperinflation. Ron Paul is a fool who knows nothing about economics.
he has no experience and for a "smart guy" (so everyone said) hes quite stupid, trying to act for everyone's good but in the end hes fking everything up
obama is still president cuz hes got the black community backing him man hes black and for the black community, a black president seems to be a god more important than the country they live in
i say ron paul is the man fuck the republicans and fuck the democrates, ron paul and ron paul alone
Its will not fail over night but give it time....what he is saying is slowly coming true. Look at what is going on around you right now. Stop watching CNN and MSNBC and Fox and do your own research.
The inflation in America has been far higher than in central European countries for the last 30-35 years. Your monetary poilicies, under the mandate of promoting growth (a.k.a. artificial expansions of credit), are reckless and much less conservative than in Europe. Always abusing the privilege of dollar standard. But that privilege will abruptly end.
Your a fool, he predicted the ression, and was laughed at, and now says we're going bankrupt, plenty of people agree with him, including news anchors who used to mock him, and YOU probably wont belive it, untill the U.S.A collapses JUST like the soviet union did.
"He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures."
"He has erected a multitude of new offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people ..."
In his first inaugural Address, Thomas Jefferson stated that STATE governments are "the surest bulwarks against anti-republican tendencies" -- meaning federal (central) government in conflict with American republic form of government, ... and that such violation can be brought about by use of force, or by inducement through SUBSIDY by government, which is inescapably accompanied by control.
@KarmicOmen Sate governments are even more corrupt than the federal government (I would know, I'm from IL), so I have no problem with the fed. gov't telling the states what to do.
I'm from Massachusetts, so I hear ya, but you never want the feds in your face -- they don't stop at just your face. They get on your ass and underfoot too.
The issue isn't whether healthcare is an issue. The point is that in a country as rich as America once was you would have thought that healthcare would have been affordable for everyone. Not the case! So the issue is will the healthcare bill make healthcare affordable for everyone? Absolutely not and at the same time it will cast our deficit further into the economic pit we find ourselves in. The US is rearing its ugly socialistic head that is heading towards all out communism.
Yeah, but national healthcare works in other countries pretty well? I mean, I don't see anything immoral about providing public care while leaving an opt out option for those who can afford it. Horrible, horrible things have happened to people I know because of our healthcare system. Things that wouldn't happen four feet into Canada. How is it OK?
a jtallensk: I didn't mention anything about Ron Paul and the patriot act. I said REPUBLICANS. And sure, some dems voted for the patriot act, that doesn't make them right either. My point here is that the Republicans branded anybody who didn't support this act a TRAITOR, and took away our freedom of privacy in the name of HOMELAND SECURITY. Don't say they didn't, I remember this quite clearly.
The patriot act was wrong but Obama is just as wrong for extending it... That said, The patriot act wont bankrupt America like this health care disaster.
Bush also spent money worse than most democrats so please use the term republican loosely when referring to him
@fathead: Absolutely right, they're scared. They are desperately trying to save their party by spreading wildly inaccurate lies about what this reform means. This is the same tactic that they have used throughout history whenever Democrats tried to do something good for the common man....
@ bigbad: So by your logic, it's ok for US to pay for these hordes of people to get free healthcare because they can't be denied? Because that's exactly what is happening. And why do people fly to places like Costa Rica to get cheap state of the art health care? Answer me that!!
Had the Republicans proposed a healthcare solution, then we wouldn't need the Democrats to come up with something. History always shows that Democrats are for the common man, Republicans are for protecting their own greedy interests....PERIOD. Their refusal to embrace change will come back to haunt them.
@ longstreet: are you kidding me? Nobody is in the gutter without healthcare? Only if you can rely on the kindness of STRANGERS buddy, because unless you're bleeding or with a gunshot, you will most likely be given painkillers and sent home with no treatment. And the FREE care people are getting is being payed for by YOU, through your sky high premiums.
@noman2001 you won't even be given pain killers these days. They try to push anti-depressants onto people that don't need them so they can get the kick-backs from the pharmacrutical companies!
hey but you have to remember canada doesnt have trillion dollar empire around the world. WE american die more because of heart disase, auto accidents and gun violence, drug abuse
Bad economic policy? Does Ron Paul even listen to the lies that come out of his mouth?
Here are the facts.
We spend 15.3% GDP on health care, which the highest of any nation. The second highest is Canada which spends 10.0% GDP on health care, AND Canada has universal coverage. They also live almost 3 years longer. The CBO said the health care bill will LOWER the national debt by 130 billion dollars.
So Ron Paul, are you an ignorant fool, or just a blatant liar?
As a doctor I would rather see you for free than to deal with the de facto government now in power in Washington. We MUST recover our faith in each other and STOP looking for someone else to save us!
You people befuddle me, how in a civilised nation can you say healthcare is a PRIVILEGE? Other countries LAUGH at this statement....What, we discard our have-nots to the gutter, while a rich family enjoys modern health care? What a shame...
Actually, it still will be a privilege for the most part as people will get what the government deems. A right to health care would not require them to put in a rule that says people must have it.
every1 that can get to a hospital gets modern health care. In the USA if you are put in an ambulance you cannot be denied care for any reason. That's why Border emergency rooms and hospitals in locations with many illegals are overcrowded. In NYC if you go to an emergency room or hospital clinic you will get all the health care you need on the taxpayers dime. The have-nots simply don't get to go to their own doctors, they have to use what the hospital and emergency rooms and clinics offer.
Even retarded Republicans won't give up health reform once it's actually in affect. Even suggesting the get rid of medicare or social security is a death sentence in their own party. Once this and future bills are in effect, the American people will wake up and realize that maybe the rest of the world is on to something.
How will the exchange rate of the dollar, which is 100% relative to the health of other nations, be remotely effected by the health reform, when other nations ALREADY have universal health care? The exchange is effect by relative debt (which will go down $150 billion) and the relative GDP growth (of which everyone's is terrible). What you said is inane and literally impossible. Health care will have no large effect on the dollar. Quote me on that.
@noman2001 Health care is a privilege. People have rights up to where they infringe on someone else's rights. In order to secure health care on a central scale, you would have to infringe on several rights. He said people have a right to life which is true. He doesn't believe in throwing people away, like you seem to think he does. What he said is that this heath care bill would ensure that health care will be a little worse for everybody.
You already have access to immediate life-saving care. No nation laughs at us. Nations are jealous of us. No nation is a rich as us nor is any nation as powerful as us. Full stop. We have the best health care in the world...bar none. No nation has better health care, despite the phony studies generated by supposed "non-partisan" institutes. I have no problem partially subsidizing people who want to purchase health insurance, but no one should be forced to purchase it by the Federal government.
You wanna talk about the CONSTITUTIONALITY of this? What about the PATRIOT ACT? Remember THAT little gem? I don't wanna hear ANYTHING about constitutionality, after what we were subjected to during the previous administration.
Ron Paul supporters don't like the Patriot Act either. If you think that the health care plan will get class A health care to all Americans - again you are mistaken or blinded by naivete. Unfortunately - money has to come from somwehere to pay for this health care, money even the "rich white men" in our country can even afford to spend right now. How does the government make up for this? By rationing care - tell me again how we're all going to get health care?
Please enlighten us as to the unconstitutionality of the Patriot Act. Oh and tell us why Obama, a Constitutional Law expert, allowed the Patriot Act to be extended.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
@optionqb The federal government can now search citizens without a warrant. There is virtually no privacy now with basically anything electronic being accessible again without any type of warrant. The problem is that not everybody is morally sound, and people will abuse this power.
@Towmotorseth I hate to tell you this, but the government has always been able to search people without warrants. In fact, most cases of search and siezure occur without warrants. Probable cause, reasonable suspicion, or just obvious overt illegal behavior cause most searches. The 4th Amendment does not require a warrant for a search. It merely tells you what - in cases where a warrant is necessary- must be provided as evidence for the said warrant.
@cossatotfalls I beg to differ. They are not suspended naturally under the Patriot Act. Posse Comitatus was only briefly bypassed during Hurricane Katrina. It was effectively restored later....either late in 2007 or early 2008.
President can't use signing statements to draft laws/interpretations. We're supposed to lead world example, beacon of hope,liberty,justice/truth. No checks and balances, indefinite suspension of right to trial/fair hearing, can be held indefinitely in prison no trial. Without probable cause/court order wiretap,break into apartment make look like robbery, etc. No longer innocent until proven guilty. In conjunction with fear mongering spirit for president to war without congressional deceleration.
@FiendsInRedSatin1: Obama said, it's gonna take a LONG TIME, maybe even TWO TERMS to fix the mess that was left. Rationing, lengthy periods, etc...that ALREADY HAPPENS NOW. Insurance companies ALREADY RATION your healthcare, all those things you say are already occurring. AND, we're ALREADY paying for the 35 million people who have no insurance, and you wanna just leave things the way they ARE? You don't think the system we have in place NOW is leading to bankruptcy?
2 terms to fix the mess that was left. hahaha. Now thats a joke. If by "the mess that was left" you mean Bush then its an even bigger mess. When Bush left office the deficit was only about 500 billion. In the little over a year that Obama has been in office Obama QUADRUPLED that deficit. Its estimated that by the time Obama(hopefully) leaves office in 2012 the deficit will be 9.4 trillion. Is there even that much money in the world? LOL.
we pay about 6 bill a year to pay for those who dont have HC...now we will pay 10-30 bill a yar for those who dont have HC...which will BankRupt the country first
But we are only paying for immediate, life-saving care. We were not (past-tense) having to pay for the prolonged, chronic care of every other citizen in the country. But hey Obama is working on those unemplyment statistics, the IRS is gonna need lots of new employees. Of course, what do you care? And no, the current system isn't leading to bankruptcy. Good grief how economically illiterate are you.
I'm seriously gonna go crazy if someone else calls him Senator Paul. He IS a REPRESENTATIVE in the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
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RON PAUL, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR AN ANSWER! TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW EXACTLY RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? OK LETS SAY ALL TROOPS CAME BACK AND THEN WHAT? THEY ARE GOING TO SELL IPHONES AND BLACKBERRIES? DUDE BE A MEN, HOW RU GOING TO CREATE JOBS? POPULATION OF CHINA IS 1.4 B CHINESE WORK LIKE ROBOTS, BE HONEST TELL AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BUY UR BOOK U NEED CASH , U LOVE POWER, U LOVE CASH, U WILL NEVER CREATE JOBS, U HAVE NO ANSWER!
democratsaresmart 7 months ago
Ron Paul is like Chicken Little
rs09985 8 months ago
obama 2012
LordKaisen 8 months ago
@LordKaisen Obama 1961-2012
janderson2000 6 months ago
Obama was a loser before he even became President, Obama has become an even BIGGER loser as President lol......
1XMarksSpot 9 months ago 2
This is the only man who wish to restore the real values of American democracy. Today America is the symbol of brutal bullying thugs in the most of eyes in this world. Sen. Paul is the only hope of America to change the current global reputation it has now.
UighurKnight 11 months ago 3
@ransom22 of course! and ya know what? who cares if the poor get thrown out of hospitals!? who cares that if i have a potentially life-threatening disease i wont be insured and thrown out on my ass!? and lastly, who cares that in 50 years 99% of all of our incomes will go straight to insurance companies and we won't have a dime to spend on ourselves!? sounds like the life to me (: ...but hey, at least we'll be faithful to listening to some f****** austrians!!!
underoathsnowboarder 11 months ago
@underoathsnowboarder While I think the Austrian school does have a better system, I share your concern for the poor. If we do implement an Austrian economic theory without any control whatsoever, we would be trading federal control for corporate -- one evil for another. However, I think an Austrian system that allows for anti-trust lawsuits to protect smaller companies (insurance or otherwise) would promote competition and help prevent high level control, which is what all people should fear.
Wanderer787 10 months ago
Have any of you read any books on Universal Health Care and Obamacare pro's and con's? Well I for one have and let me just tell you this. By repealing this law and going back to our old health care system, this is FACT, the government WILL be spending 25% of its GDP on health care. In 15 years, we could potentially be spending a majority of our income on health care. If we don't repeal obamacare and it goes through will we be taxed? yes. But it will be miles better than going broke!
underoathsnowboarder 1 year ago
@underoathsnowboarder The repeal of Obamacare is only a first step to getting the government out of health care all together. The more we rely on Keynesian thinking the faster we move towards bankruptcy and a complete government takeover of the economy and industry. However, if people would read history and realize the Austrian economists were right, there's still a chance that our nation can be spared.
ransom22 11 months ago
Obamacare promised to be less expensive but I just got a notice that my Civil Service Pension Health Insurance increased by 50% Feb 1, 2011, And in January I got the notice my COLA will not go up because there has been no inflation in Obama's USA. Is that correct? Hell, No! We need repeal Obamacare and we need to terminate Obama, his administration and all liars that would rule and rob us..
lonewolfmilitia 1 year ago
2012 can not come soon enough. Can any of you say "impeachment"? Hopefully this dispicable ass clown as left enough dirty laundry behind him and the new congress can find something to impeach him with.
It is not over until this criminal is out of office.
Those that elected him are responsible for our current plight.
GutpileCharlie 1 year ago
AHAHAHAHAHAHA I love it that guy thought a Republican ran house was a long ways away. Well it's here now and the people don't want Obama Care.
erindrake2010 1 year ago
repeal that bitch
polinchw 1 year ago
We need to repeal health care now obama care is just pure fascism and this represents the fascist coup on America by the federal government VIA Israel !
44774477ric 1 year ago
H-E-R-O
LOMGDosu 1 year ago
ron paul i supported you for your whole election and now your a mainstream republican... ill never give my vote to a "free market capitalist" again, did ron paul plan on cutting our HUGE military spending?... he says giving taxes back to people is stealing, but CEO's making profit off others work is just good buisness... republicans/tea party is just a corporate party
wildboy789789 1 year ago
@wildboy789789 How does this make any sense?
jeffreykerr8063 1 year ago
Great video. And I'm glad to not see a bunch of idiots who obviously don't know what they are talking about writing crap like "Paul/Nader '12." It drives me nuts when people put Paul and Nader in the same category. They have very different beliefs.
Just because Nader is a third-party candidate, doesn't mean he is anything like Ron Paul.
ebeatworld 1 year ago
Hello All,
Fed infusing the USA by printing another 600 Billion Dollars will allow us to enjoy 1970's inflation, probably long lines at Gas Stations and soooo much more. I can't wait for 20% interest rates, and the beauty is when the USA does it the rest of the world may follow so we will enjoy so many splendid benefits. Allan H. Melzer wrote an interesting article WSJ Thursday 11/4/10 "Milton Freedman Vs. the Fed".
MrD5147 1 year ago
@MrD5147 thats change you can believe in!
Shargrailar 1 year ago
@Shargrailar Hi Sha,
Nice hearing from you "Happy days are here again (1970's)" I can't wait for all markets to crash internationally. With all the splendid HOPE and CHANGE we appear to be heading toward competing with the Greek Economy. Bravo Mr. President, and you can Blame Bush all you like, but the truth has a way of coming out, and I do see much I did not like about Bush, but if there was an election today - Obama Vs. GW Bush, I am supremely confident, GW Bush would win. Regards MrD =)
MrD5147 1 year ago
If we had Obamacare in 1977 when I had my life saving surgery, I'd be dead! Thank God we didn't have it back then! I tell my story in this video.
/watch?v=pX8NrLaliCw
JORGEPSOUSA911 1 year ago
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Ron Paul 2012!!!!!
scotttwood 1 year ago
".....and a significant majority in the house and that, sir, looks like an awful way off....."
SpiritSpaceMovie 1 year ago
Ron Paul has to be careful because he might get assinated just like JFK did. For being ANTI GOVERMENT!!!
centenosparky 1 year ago
@centenosparky While I doubt we could pull enough of the voters heads out of their asses long enough to get a government that actually gave a crap and were not out for themselves, I do agree with the fear that the powers that be would help Mr Paul join Kennedy/Lincoln in the history books.
Shargrailar 1 year ago
School is free in America
ScottKyle 1 year ago
@ScottKyle Just because you don't buy a ticket or write out a check every time your kid heads to a public school doesn't make it free.
SpiritSpaceMovie 1 year ago
In communist Poland there was this so called "free" health care. And the govt's point of honour was to eradicate tuberculosis. For years they were giving vaccines to people, and finally they announced great victory and that there is no more tuberculosis in Poland....
Now 1 in every 4 people in this country is a carrier of the bactera of tuberculosis. This is how "free" health care works. Oh and if you believe that it is free, then you are just plain stupid. It's of your taxes.
BandytaCzasu 1 year ago 3
americans have got to stop repeat offenders, vote themout of office. DID THIS WE ARE CONSTANTLY TOLD THAT THE EXPERTS ARE ON TOP OF IT, THE EXPERTS? THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT HAVE US IN A $14 TRILLION DEFICIT, CALIF HAS EXPERTS IN SACRAMENTO, WE ARE $45 BILLION IN DEFICIT AND SINKING. l A IS INDEFICIT, HOW ABOUT WE GO IT WITHOUT EXPERTS? WE CAN'T AFFORDE THEM.
nopopconformity 1 year ago
Im not too worried about it. Once the effects of obamacare hits it and the people feel the effects the cry is going to be so big that Washington is going to be forced to repel it.
rowland2110 1 year ago
The only way to stop this is to stop the fuel needed to keep a system that will allways be CORRUPT going. This is the Symptom not the (Bad Guy). Fix the System end this... it just tacks you...
Zeitgeist Movemment
Zeitgeist Addendum
(The Venus Project)
vishesfishes 1 year ago
@vishesfishes every system will always be corrupt over time if given power. a one world government will be dangerous.
emcalone 1 year ago
@emcalone its better then Globalization witch is were we r going & no1 is in power in this system
vishesfishes 1 year ago
@vishesfishes someone is always in power
emcalone 1 year ago
Ron Paul is a very smart man...
gregvancuren 1 year ago
Obamacare = epic fail
nov284 1 year ago
Obama is a black, baby-Bush.
2242bzo 1 year ago
Ron Paul telling it how it is.
MirageScience 1 year ago
@MirageScience
I'm glad Obama set up death panels to thin out the old people.
GOPeconomyROCKZ 1 year ago
@GOPeconomyROCKZ You can't thin what's too fat to make it to the panel meeting.
ayethereztherub 1 year ago
I don't agree with Paul on everything, but with this, he is spot on.
oyp567567 1 year ago
The government/Obama is spending our country into debt that we will never be able to get out of. Wake up people, that is why our economy is in the toilet right now, because the American people spent beyond their means, buying housing they could not afford, etc. Please take a basic economics class. The people fund the government through taxes, therefore, when they overspend by trillions of dollars and pile up more and more debt, WE THE TAX PAYERS WILL BE PAYING OFF THE GOVERNMENTS DEBT.
adamfans1 1 year ago
1 , 2 , 3 , 4
1. 9/11 was a Demolition done by Israel & Zionist Traitors
2. Al Qaeda = Jew Mass Media Conspiracy Theory (eg. FOX, MSNBC, CNN, All of Hollywood)
3. Illuminati = Jew Alternative Media Conspiracy Theory (eg. Alex Jones, 911 Truth etc..)
4. NWO/Globalization = the new name for International Jew Communism/Marxism
parasitesarefunny 1 year ago
@RageAgainstNWO - You are correct...
megadrummer2 1 year ago
I hope Mr. Ron Paul Runs for Pres. in 2012 and doesn't plan on dropping out like he did before I was disappointed when he did so last election and we the people were forced to let the system win - even if their is no chance of him winning because of pre-chosen president before public has chance of even seeing him cause of Bilderburg group choosings....Ron Paul 2012!!
Bearkiller777 1 year ago
Which are the differences? There are many but one of them is monetary policy. While Bundesbank (and now ECB) mandate is "stability", the Federal Reserve mandate is promoting growth, which means orchestrate massive credit expansion. German have a vivid memory of hyperinflation in the 1920s
xaviqaz 1 year ago
During late 90s and 2000s, US GDP was growing at 4 o 5 % rate. While german growth was close to 0 to 1%. Many americans mocked Germany then. What did really happen in those years? Germany reduced labor costs and wages, citizens sacrified part of their living standards and households and business reduced debt. They became the world biggest exporter nation. On the other hand, americans grew under mountains of private debt, rising prices, cheap labor, hyper-consumption and larger trade deficits.
xaviqaz 1 year ago
But privileges end, sooner or later
xaviqaz 1 year ago
Ron Paul isn't president because he wants to return control of our country to the people and the people who really run the show will never let that happen...money men control our economy through the Federal Reserve and the opinions of average Americans with the media...Glenn Beck and John Stewart are two sides of the same rotten coin...the media keeps us so polarized that we wind up fighting each other instead of addressing the real issues
davecutillo 1 year ago 2
Why isn't this guy president yet?
gvprinceof06 1 year ago 2
2010 would deliver a Republican congress.
2012 would deliver a Republican senate and Republican president.
2014 would likely increase the Republican majority in the senate.
Litigation can stay Obamacare and strike down large portions of the bill. States can demand that the law become null and void under the ninth and tenth amendment. The insurance mandate is unconstitutional under the 5th, 9th, and 10th. Congress can defund the bill. And within five years, this monstrosity will be repealed.
herbs814 1 year ago
Castro hailed Obamacare as a miracle and an important battle and a success of (Obamas) government. Castro stated Obamas health care is like the one enacted in Cuba a half century ago. Last year Castro said his countrys spending on health care was simply unsustainable.
dkkght46 1 year ago
the system is messed up
wodahsking 1 year ago
@optionqb: Yes, we do have the best healthcare in the world, but you DONT GET THE POINT. If you aren't lucky enough to have a job that offers insurance, or you don't have the means to pay $1000 a month, THEN YOU DONT HAVE ACCESS TO IT, SO WHAT GOOD IS IT? @Madoculus, what do you mean, it's a privilege? Should the Fire Department or the Police be a privilege too? Why should healthcare be any different from other aspects of our infranstructure? Healthcare couldn't get much WORSE for the poor.
noman2001 1 year ago
liberalism is a mental disorder - one of the symptoms is obliviousness to the national debt and our looming bankruptcy.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
Our national debt is at 90% of our GDP. We are fighting two wars and have been for eight years. We are in the middle of an economic crisis almost as bad as the Great depression. During the great depression, our national debt was 120% of the GDP. The debt was paid off n 20 years (within the lifetime of the people who voted for the spending). I agree that 90% of our GDP is a little scary, but If you look at the facts we are much better off now than we were then. Health care reform is one step.
peoplepowered1 1 year ago
peoplepower, what brought us out of the great depression? i'll tell u - people couldn't buy stuff during ww2, so they saved, they had no choice, and when the war ended, that pent up savings fueled the flying 40s - our situation is quite different now, we are mired in debt, and have incredibly bad trade treaties, we're doomed and there's no reason to have any optimism.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 I think that almost every economist would disagree with you. The three main factors were FDR's social policies, BORROWING money to fund a war, and time(it heals all wounds). It is more than likely a combination of all three to one degree or another. Also, our debt is less than what we had going into WWII(when adjusted for inflation). As far as trade agreements are concerned, there needs to be reform but good luck convincing Americans to give up walmart and Mickey D's.
peoplepowered1 1 year ago
people kenesian economists would disagree with me, but austrian economists would agree with me, and common sense would also. most americans are in debt, and most obviously the govt is, $12,4 trillion national debt plus all the trillions of unfunded entitlements plus all the tens of billions in debt all the states are, most especially california arizona and new york
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 As for Austrian economics agreeing with you or not, that is debatable. History tells us that during the great depression, 28% of the country was unemployed. How are you going to save money if your unemployed? Likewise, how are you going to start a business if you don't borrow money? Whether from a bank, or a relative or investors? I agree the debt is crazy right now, but the fix isn't to freeze all spending. The fix is to reform healthcare and the financial markets.
peoplepowered1 1 year ago
peoplepower part of the problem is our trade agreements, nafta cafta wto, we can't compete with countries that pay workers a dollar a day - we must produce wealth if we hope to get rid of our debt. health care is irrelevant in that struggle.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 Yes, part of the problem is our trade deficit. But so is financial reform and, yes health care reform. There is plenty of information out there on how reforming health care will help reduce our national debt and grow the GDP. This healthcare bill is not perfect by any means, but it is a start. The problem is it doesn't do enough. Obama needs to crack heads and get this done and ignore all the "the sky is falling" crap being flung around.
peoplepowered1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 I'm not saying that you are flinging crap around. I''m just saying that there is a lot of henny penny talk going around and I don't see to many people trying to have an intelligent conversation about the issues.
peoplepowered1 1 year ago
During the Great Depression America was not the biggest debtor in the world, and there was not a huge trade deficit. Japan public debt is around 200% of GDP but they are still one the biggest net creditors, with Germany and China. It means they are very productive, exporters and don´t need others to get into debt. US budget deficit this year is 2/3 of overall german, french or italian State debt. While so many countries are struggling with deficits, you have a privilege: you print the "gold".
xaviqaz 1 year ago
Secondly, and please forgive the appeal to authority, the overwhelming majority of economists have said that there is no advantage to not having a national debt and in fact not borrowing money when you need to can be detrimental. Take a chill pill. No one reformed the lending market before the crash. That's our big problem. Reforming the banks and insurance is the only way to fix the crisis and reduce debt. They're not going to do it themselves, they never have. Their job is to make money.
peoplepowered1 1 year ago
peoplepower, u are saying debt is good? rediculous. even more rediculous is the idea that megatrillions in debt is ok.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 I"M saying that from what I have read most economists say that there is no advantage to not having a debt. Should scientific advancement be put on hold until you save up the money to fund the research? Should people go without a levy in New Orleans until they have enough pennies in their piggy banks to pay for it? Would that help or hinder economic growth? I agree that the debt is high right now. Health care reform, like financial reform is how we get back on track.
peoplepowered1 1 year ago
Ron's a jackass who has been predicting collapse since the 1980's
NoLibertarian 1 year ago
@NoLibertarian Our foot HAS been on the ledge since the 1980's. Well, the wind is blowing now.
Zematus737 1 year ago
Fox has british anchors now?
Why?
IFknHateUTube 1 year ago
I cannot loose power over my own life unless I agree to relinquish it. I do not consent to anyone or any government making my life choices for me. If you have a social program to sell, give me your pitch and maybe I'll buy it. But I will always reserve the power of final consent for my life, liberty and justly acquired property.
Isbadd 1 year ago
fuck off and so what if i didnt spell right go cry to your mom your all crazy republicans sick in the head all you care about is what you want and if any one gets in your way you cry about it get over it you lost power
skycash02 1 year ago
There's really one solution to all this mess, quite clear, quite simple, will make all the difference in the world. No, not Gold, not Silver; that's silly talk. Make the Federal Reserve a public bank with each taxpayer a share holder. In this way the money will stop draining out to foreigners and instead come back to the people who work honestly hard for it. Its exactly the only fix that will work. The foreigners have taken too much and deserve no more. Let's create the Amero today!
webfulfill 1 year ago
one thing that i have learned is, don't believe everything the government tells you, check out the controlled media, off shore corps, outsourcing , overtaxing, ex orders. you say F.E.M.A. can't use u.n. troops on u.s.streets? if it comes down to tea parties getting loud don't you think wash. would use anyone for anything? naci de noche pero no anoche.
nopopconformity 1 year ago
Let's not forget that the problems Obama/Pelosi/Reid were trying to address (well, in their sick and twisted point of view) were created by government intervention in the health care and insurance industry in the mid 20th century. Their predecessors in the democrat party caused it and are now using it as an excuse to further government intervention. Real reform, just like Ron Paul's "Revolution", would be to strip out the heavy bureaucracies and let the people take care of themselves.
phillipstr07 1 year ago
lol @ "cycle path"
MosulRapist 1 year ago
BOO HOO FUCK OFF RON PAUL GET OVER IT YOU LOST POWR SO STOP CRYING YOU CRAZY CYCLE PATH REPUBLICANS open your eyes people dont lisen to this bull shit . wow how the republicans love to complicate minds. like i sed cycle paths
skycash02 1 year ago
its psycho path you moron!! no wonder your a freakin liberal!! Go back to school and quit supporting that socialist verge on communist so called leader of ours!
luiscbailon 1 year ago 3
@skycash02
Wow, dumb ass. I bet your a Obama supporter. To blinded by the media to see he is the first black puppet president, a CEO of the corperation "U.S.A". Sorry to burst your bubble, but he's controlled by the same people that controlled Bush. Ron Paul's the only republican who ran, that was not controlled by elite bankers.
RageAgainstNWO 1 year ago
I'm glad I have Ron Paul representing Texas: We Texans need someone to counterbalance that child Gohmert.
Josephbm91 1 year ago
Good luck repealing the regulations like those that now prevent insurance companies from dropping or denying you or your children over pre-existing conditions. Not going to happen.
Faith7No7More7 1 year ago
ron paul for 2012
sos60joker 1 year ago
o no the national debt will increase by 2 trillion. help the deficit help the deficit. i wonder who created that deficit and financial destruction of the u.s...riiight the republican ex president.
nitemarestlk 1 year ago
@nitemarestlk you are very simple minded. america has been over spending for the last 45 years. repubs and dems have destroyed this country, obama has just stepped on the gas and is heading for the cliff at 90 miles an hour, not 55.
ethanm3 1 year ago
talking about bnkrpcy man i filed 2007 could not pay my mrgdg too hi man -man if u think u need medicare call those those dumb ass senator/officials from your state and tell them u need it .but if u dont shut the fk up. and i have about 4000 dollar emmergency bill for my dad when he had a heart surgery u know what i will get a lawyer and couple median go to my senitor and ask him to pay the fkng bill / make it 1/4 .5 i can pay for it and the pay the rest .
mzika12 1 year ago
Something Needs To Be Done About It. Get The Fuck Over It.
Over 35 Million People In America Dont Have Healthcare.
My Familly Included.
People Are Dieing Because Of It And Nobody Gave A Shit About Us Until Now
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fuckaroni77 1 year ago
Ronpaul Pron Haul 2008. Google Ron Paul. He will promise you glory.
JDorsey2001 1 year ago
Ron Paul is a fool who knows nothing about economics.
Richardgwm 1 year ago
Yes the fool who's always right when it comes to the economy.
Radwar99 1 year ago
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@Radwar99 Ron Paul has never been right about anything having to do with the economy. for thirty years Ron Paul has been predicting the imminent collapse of the dollar and hyperinflation. For thirty years Ron Paul has been DEAD WRONG. Face facts. The man does not know what he is talking about.
Richardgwm 1 year ago
@Richardgwm He hasn't been predicting the "imminent" collapse of the economy for 30 years. That's a mischaracterization of his career. He has been warning for years that unsound monetary and fiscal policies will eventually lead to economic ruin, and he was right. Furthermore, most of the few who foresaw this housing bubble and the "Great Recession" (soon to be renamed the "Greater Depression") were libertarians and Austrian School economists.
hpd707 1 year ago 29
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@hpd707 Ron Paul has been DEAD WRONG for 30 years. There is no interpretation of reality under which Ron Paul's predictions have actually come true. For thirty years, Ron Paul has been predicting the imminent collapse of the US dollar and hyperinflation. That is not a mischaracterization. That is what the man has been predicting. The US dollar has NOT collapsed. The US has NOT experienced hyperinflation. Ron Paul is a fool who knows nothing about economics.
Richardgwm 1 year ago
@hpd707 dude who cares, fuck obama
he has no experience and for a "smart guy" (so everyone said) hes quite stupid, trying to act for everyone's good but in the end hes fking everything up
obama is still president cuz hes got the black community backing him man hes black and for the black community, a black president seems to be a god more important than the country they live in
i say ron paul is the man fuck the republicans and fuck the democrates, ron paul and ron paul alone
TheAceofOcea 1 year ago
Its will not fail over night but give it time....what he is saying is slowly coming true. Look at what is going on around you right now. Stop watching CNN and MSNBC and Fox and do your own research.
boxeranders 1 year ago
The inflation in America has been far higher than in central European countries for the last 30-35 years. Your monetary poilicies, under the mandate of promoting growth (a.k.a. artificial expansions of credit), are reckless and much less conservative than in Europe. Always abusing the privilege of dollar standard. But that privilege will abruptly end.
xaviqaz 1 year ago
@Richardgwm
Your a fool, he predicted the ression, and was laughed at, and now says we're going bankrupt, plenty of people agree with him, including news anchors who used to mock him, and YOU probably wont belive it, untill the U.S.A collapses JUST like the soviet union did.
RageAgainstNWO 1 year ago 16
From our Declaration of Independence
(Do these actions seem at all familiar lately?)
"He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures."
"He has erected a multitude of new offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people ..."
KarmicOmen 1 year ago 2
In his first inaugural Address, Thomas Jefferson stated that STATE governments are "the surest bulwarks against anti-republican tendencies" -- meaning federal (central) government in conflict with American republic form of government, ... and that such violation can be brought about by use of force, or by inducement through SUBSIDY by government, which is inescapably accompanied by control.
KarmicOmen 1 year ago 2
@KarmicOmen Sate governments are even more corrupt than the federal government (I would know, I'm from IL), so I have no problem with the fed. gov't telling the states what to do.
smp22287 1 year ago
I'm from Massachusetts, so I hear ya, but you never want the feds in your face -- they don't stop at just your face. They get on your ass and underfoot too.
KarmicOmen 1 year ago 2
So Bush making SEVERAL executive orders was ok? Hmm?
inserthere1234 1 year ago
Well, he obviously doesn't care about healthcare because he's already at the end of his life.
Fischerspoonraff 1 year ago
Ron Paul= the first republican to object to the health care bill other than the reason of "ZOMG SOCIALISM. ZOMB ABORTIONZ"
teddygramz2008 1 year ago 3
The issue isn't whether healthcare is an issue. The point is that in a country as rich as America once was you would have thought that healthcare would have been affordable for everyone. Not the case! So the issue is will the healthcare bill make healthcare affordable for everyone? Absolutely not and at the same time it will cast our deficit further into the economic pit we find ourselves in. The US is rearing its ugly socialistic head that is heading towards all out communism.
lefrebure 1 year ago
Yeah, but national healthcare works in other countries pretty well? I mean, I don't see anything immoral about providing public care while leaving an opt out option for those who can afford it. Horrible, horrible things have happened to people I know because of our healthcare system. Things that wouldn't happen four feet into Canada. How is it OK?
skib1234 1 year ago
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Looks like A Quack, walks like a
Quack, talks like a Quack.
Ron Paul is a Quack!!
NewOrleansWins 1 year ago
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NewOrleansWins 1 year ago
a jtallensk: I didn't mention anything about Ron Paul and the patriot act. I said REPUBLICANS. And sure, some dems voted for the patriot act, that doesn't make them right either. My point here is that the Republicans branded anybody who didn't support this act a TRAITOR, and took away our freedom of privacy in the name of HOMELAND SECURITY. Don't say they didn't, I remember this quite clearly.
noman2001 1 year ago 2
The patriot act was wrong but Obama is just as wrong for extending it... That said, The patriot act wont bankrupt America like this health care disaster.
Bush also spent money worse than most democrats so please use the term republican loosely when referring to him
ragincaucasian319 1 year ago
@fathead: Absolutely right, they're scared. They are desperately trying to save their party by spreading wildly inaccurate lies about what this reform means. This is the same tactic that they have used throughout history whenever Democrats tried to do something good for the common man....
noman2001 1 year ago
>implying democrats are considerate for the common man
TehDawgzor 1 year ago
@ bigbad: So by your logic, it's ok for US to pay for these hordes of people to get free healthcare because they can't be denied? Because that's exactly what is happening. And why do people fly to places like Costa Rica to get cheap state of the art health care? Answer me that!!
noman2001 1 year ago 4
Had the Republicans proposed a healthcare solution, then we wouldn't need the Democrats to come up with something. History always shows that Democrats are for the common man, Republicans are for protecting their own greedy interests....PERIOD. Their refusal to embrace change will come back to haunt them.
noman2001 1 year ago
@ longstreet: are you kidding me? Nobody is in the gutter without healthcare? Only if you can rely on the kindness of STRANGERS buddy, because unless you're bleeding or with a gunshot, you will most likely be given painkillers and sent home with no treatment. And the FREE care people are getting is being payed for by YOU, through your sky high premiums.
noman2001 1 year ago
@noman2001 you won't even be given pain killers these days. They try to push anti-depressants onto people that don't need them so they can get the kick-backs from the pharmacrutical companies!
rev66blessu 1 year ago
hey but you have to remember canada doesnt have trillion dollar empire around the world. WE american die more because of heart disase, auto accidents and gun violence, drug abuse
trueconservatie33 1 year ago
We are screwed........
ChazzyNazzy45 1 year ago
Worldwide economic collapse = World War III
WhereDidItAllGo7 1 year ago
Central planning will hurt the poor, keep them poor, and make more people poor.
Nationalized healthcare is not compassionate. History has shown us this. The Coburn-Ryan healthcare bill is the way to go.
WhereDidItAllGo7 1 year ago 2
Interesting that other countries where healthcare is not a "privilege", but a given right, don't seem to face bankruptcies.
an0nim0uz 1 year ago
ughhhh...
Ron's own party doesn't listen to him.
treid100182 1 year ago
Bad economic policy? Does Ron Paul even listen to the lies that come out of his mouth?
Here are the facts.
We spend 15.3% GDP on health care, which the highest of any nation. The second highest is Canada which spends 10.0% GDP on health care, AND Canada has universal coverage. They also live almost 3 years longer. The CBO said the health care bill will LOWER the national debt by 130 billion dollars.
So Ron Paul, are you an ignorant fool, or just a blatant liar?
fathead8489 1 year ago
All this BS is going to cause a Civil War.
DruDaSk8er 1 year ago 2
@norman2001 Most countries with universal healthcare are homogeneous societies with a very low number of illegal aliens
dire8straits 1 year ago 4
As a doctor I would rather see you for free than to deal with the de facto government now in power in Washington. We MUST recover our faith in each other and STOP looking for someone else to save us!
Isbadd 1 year ago
lol nobody is in the gutter without health care. Secondly, because another country doesn't like our system doesn't mean we need to change it.
Longstreet7 1 year ago
You people befuddle me, how in a civilised nation can you say healthcare is a PRIVILEGE? Other countries LAUGH at this statement....What, we discard our have-nots to the gutter, while a rich family enjoys modern health care? What a shame...
noman2001 1 year ago
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Longstreet7 1 year ago
Actually, it still will be a privilege for the most part as people will get what the government deems. A right to health care would not require them to put in a rule that says people must have it.
Stormcris 1 year ago
every1 that can get to a hospital gets modern health care. In the USA if you are put in an ambulance you cannot be denied care for any reason. That's why Border emergency rooms and hospitals in locations with many illegals are overcrowded. In NYC if you go to an emergency room or hospital clinic you will get all the health care you need on the taxpayers dime. The have-nots simply don't get to go to their own doctors, they have to use what the hospital and emergency rooms and clinics offer.
bigbad169 1 year ago
RON believes healthcare is not a Human Right...
...which is what seperates him from 70% of the country.
treid100182 1 year ago
@noman2001
Even retarded Republicans won't give up health reform once it's actually in affect. Even suggesting the get rid of medicare or social security is a death sentence in their own party. Once this and future bills are in effect, the American people will wake up and realize that maybe the rest of the world is on to something.
fathead8489 1 year ago
hey dont worry just wail till the healthcare take effect and wait till the dollar collapse, lets chant yes we can then
trueconservatie33 1 year ago
@trueconservatie33
How will the exchange rate of the dollar, which is 100% relative to the health of other nations, be remotely effected by the health reform, when other nations ALREADY have universal health care? The exchange is effect by relative debt (which will go down $150 billion) and the relative GDP growth (of which everyone's is terrible). What you said is inane and literally impossible. Health care will have no large effect on the dollar. Quote me on that.
fathead8489 1 year ago
health care for all at the expense of others isnt right...if you were told...not asked...to pay for someone else's bills you would say NO
KazGar941 1 year ago
You have no idea what your saying. No body goes without healthcare in America! It is against the law to turn a patient away!
jtallensk 1 year ago
@noman2001 Health care is a privilege. People have rights up to where they infringe on someone else's rights. In order to secure health care on a central scale, you would have to infringe on several rights. He said people have a right to life which is true. He doesn't believe in throwing people away, like you seem to think he does. What he said is that this heath care bill would ensure that health care will be a little worse for everybody.
Madoculos 1 year ago
You already have access to immediate life-saving care. No nation laughs at us. Nations are jealous of us. No nation is a rich as us nor is any nation as powerful as us. Full stop. We have the best health care in the world...bar none. No nation has better health care, despite the phony studies generated by supposed "non-partisan" institutes. I have no problem partially subsidizing people who want to purchase health insurance, but no one should be forced to purchase it by the Federal government.
optionqb 1 year ago
You wanna talk about the CONSTITUTIONALITY of this? What about the PATRIOT ACT? Remember THAT little gem? I don't wanna hear ANYTHING about constitutionality, after what we were subjected to during the previous administration.
noman2001 1 year ago
In case you didn't know democrats voted for the Patriot Act.
Longstreet7 1 year ago 5
false, apparently you don't even know what the Patriot Act is.
dire8straits 1 year ago
Ron Paul was also apposed to The Patriot Act. Check your facts.
jtallensk 1 year ago
@noman2001
Ron Paul supporters don't like the Patriot Act either. If you think that the health care plan will get class A health care to all Americans - again you are mistaken or blinded by naivete. Unfortunately - money has to come from somwehere to pay for this health care, money even the "rich white men" in our country can even afford to spend right now. How does the government make up for this? By rationing care - tell me again how we're all going to get health care?
TehSmellulare 1 year ago
Please enlighten us as to the unconstitutionality of the Patriot Act. Oh and tell us why Obama, a Constitutional Law expert, allowed the Patriot Act to be extended.
optionqb 1 year ago
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Brak2002 1 year ago
Can you please explain a little better than merely quoting the 4th Amendment? What aspect of the 4th Amendment do you think has been violated? Why?
optionqb 1 year ago
@optionqb Well it's a violation of the 4th amendment. Thats quite obvious. Obama kept it around because its more power to the government.
Towmotorseth 1 year ago
I'll ask you a similar question that I asked an earleir poster: What aspect of the 4th Amendment is violated? Why do you think it is violated?
optionqb 1 year ago
@optionqb The federal government can now search citizens without a warrant. There is virtually no privacy now with basically anything electronic being accessible again without any type of warrant. The problem is that not everybody is morally sound, and people will abuse this power.
Towmotorseth 1 year ago
@Towmotorseth I hate to tell you this, but the government has always been able to search people without warrants. In fact, most cases of search and siezure occur without warrants. Probable cause, reasonable suspicion, or just obvious overt illegal behavior cause most searches. The 4th Amendment does not require a warrant for a search. It merely tells you what - in cases where a warrant is necessary- must be provided as evidence for the said warrant.
optionqb 1 year ago
Habeas corpus and Posse Comitatus are suspended under Patriot Act. Obama cares less about the constitution.
cossatotfalls 1 year ago
@cossatotfalls I beg to differ. They are not suspended naturally under the Patriot Act. Posse Comitatus was only briefly bypassed during Hurricane Katrina. It was effectively restored later....either late in 2007 or early 2008.
optionqb 1 year ago
@optionqb Exactly!...It just proves his evil intentions because if he cared then repealing the Patriot Act would have been priority.
rev66blessu 1 year ago
Posse Comitatus and Habeas Corpus are easily suspended w/ the Patriot Act. Obama cares less about the constitution.
cossatotfalls 1 year ago
President can't use signing statements to draft laws/interpretations. We're supposed to lead world example, beacon of hope,liberty,justice/truth. No checks and balances, indefinite suspension of right to trial/fair hearing, can be held indefinitely in prison no trial. Without probable cause/court order wiretap,break into apartment make look like robbery, etc. No longer innocent until proven guilty. In conjunction with fear mongering spirit for president to war without congressional deceleration.
ElectricSparks2425 1 year ago
@FiendsInRedSatin1: Obama said, it's gonna take a LONG TIME, maybe even TWO TERMS to fix the mess that was left. Rationing, lengthy periods, etc...that ALREADY HAPPENS NOW. Insurance companies ALREADY RATION your healthcare, all those things you say are already occurring. AND, we're ALREADY paying for the 35 million people who have no insurance, and you wanna just leave things the way they ARE? You don't think the system we have in place NOW is leading to bankruptcy?
noman2001 1 year ago
2 terms to fix the mess that was left. hahaha. Now thats a joke. If by "the mess that was left" you mean Bush then its an even bigger mess. When Bush left office the deficit was only about 500 billion. In the little over a year that Obama has been in office Obama QUADRUPLED that deficit. Its estimated that by the time Obama(hopefully) leaves office in 2012 the deficit will be 9.4 trillion. Is there even that much money in the world? LOL.
br00ks19O2 1 year ago
we pay about 6 bill a year to pay for those who dont have HC...now we will pay 10-30 bill a yar for those who dont have HC...which will BankRupt the country first
KazGar941 1 year ago
@noman2001 CAPITAL LETTERS
mrhyde1888 1 year ago
But we are only paying for immediate, life-saving care. We were not (past-tense) having to pay for the prolonged, chronic care of every other citizen in the country. But hey Obama is working on those unemplyment statistics, the IRS is gonna need lots of new employees. Of course, what do you care? And no, the current system isn't leading to bankruptcy. Good grief how economically illiterate are you.
optionqb 1 year ago
@optionqb Do you know how much we have in deficits and how free handouts cause an incentive for laziness?
partymartyrocks 1 year ago
Is this a rhetorical question? I'm not sure what you're getting at.
optionqb 1 year ago