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  • I think if Ret massed zerglings at the very end he would of stood a chance.

  • great game

  • terran noobest race in SC2 universe T_T

  • i think terran's range its ridiculous, vikings,thors,tanks....psss...­..

  • Zerg can't just sit back like terran can. Woulda liked to see those roaches dropped in the main. Terran gets really easy against Zerg when the zerg doesn't harass.

  • As a Zerg fan this was painful to watch. Ret's macro in every sense was phenomenal, but his engagement and unit decision making left A LOT to be desired.

  • terran op

  • seriously....it kills me when "pro" players play like shit....how the fuck with almost maxed roach do you lets the terran take a third...starve the bastard out. The instant he basically conceded a 3rd base to the terran, i knew the game for the zerg was done.

  • @GTO19020 gtfo you would not beat any of them, not even a single game, out of a 100

  • @the300and1 Masters league bitch, I could easily hold my own. douche.

  • @GTO19020 masters league? i am also in master league in the US server and i still would not be able to beat them ahahahaha dont show off

  • @the300and1 didnt say id win everygame, but i dont care what u say, based on what i saw right here. I could hold my own against him.

  • @GTO19020 you think you could hold against MLG level players?

  • FFS husky u missed the game breaking battle

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  • volume too low

  • @EcoDimension turn ur speaker up it usually works :)

  • @borredenhaarde1 my headphone's maxed bro.

  • imbalances are present yet minor. but at a high level of play. every advantage counts.

  • The argument is over. blizzard already concluded which race is OP n they are fixing it. lets move on and concentrate on something else.

  • I love this mech vs. zerg strategy just because of the terrifying power of the death ball. It'll be interesting to see if this gains any traction in the future. Mobility will punish it hard, and it also may be possible for a different composition to straight-up kill it.

  • A TERRAN WHO MADE A TOTAL OF THREE MARINES IN A GAME

    *claps enthusiastically*

  • Very good game. Enjoyed it thoroughly.

  • It's really ridiculous whenever there's a video of two skilled players going at it and in the comments I just see people bashing the winning race. There's a lot more to it than balance, sometimes players get lucky. More importantly, sometimes they're just more skilled than the other. It's not like this is a Terran thing, because if you look at all of Husky's videos, at some point you will see someone calling one of the three races imba. If there's really a huge balance issue, it will be obvious.

  • @TehTyg13 I think the only reason people say OP or imbalanced is because of the different abilities each race has. Each ability is ridiculously imbalanced but not overpowered. And because each race has these ridiculously imbalanced abilities you can't say one race is Op. All races are Op.

  • @jerryfor2012 thats excactly what my friends and i say about our favorite fighting game naruto clash of ninja (dont judge me you whore) each character is op that the whole game balences itself out.

  • @jerryfor2012

    Metalocalypse logic.

    "Therefore, we are bleach."

  • @Karmoon7 ehh.... what?

  • @jerryfor2012

    Right facts, wrong conclusion.

    Search for 'bleach logic' on youtube. Regardless of whether you agree with this point, you should defo watch Metalocalypse. It's awesome.

  • @Karmoon7 You should've explained what you were talking about first before we all got confused.

  • @jerryfor2012

    Ravens are a bit broken....

  • @Slixys a bit imbalanced but not overpowered :).

  • @Slixys haha, seriously? After Reapers and BC's Raven's are perhaps the most under-used unit in the game. Sure abilities like PDD and SM are ridiculously good and powerful, but the investment required for them makes up for this. If they were truly broken I'm sure you'd see them a lot more.

  • @jerryfor2012 "ridiculously imbalanced but not overpowered" boom there goes my tiny brain.

  • @mingzl81065 Yes, abilities are imbalanced a bit. But I have to say, that comment does not truly express what I mean. I like to proofread my comments, and I facepalm myself everyday.

  • @TehTyg13 Agreed. Any race is OP if you let a good player go unchecked. In this case, Ret let Demuslim turtle too long instead of causing damage by sacking roaches to free up supply. Once in combat, Ret let his units clump up and be subject to seeker missile hits (which were possible because he let Demuslim build up energy while turtling). In contrast, Ret's only effective fungal was too late at 21:10. Ret didn't play poorly, but a couple mistakes can make a big difference.

  • He should have just committed to killing as many tanks as possible and followed with AA. That combined with better micro would have won. Being aggressive and trading evenly with mech is always a good idea.

  • and now i stop playing coz i suck at it

  • when huskey sed "simcity" i paused the video and started playing simcity!

  • @mechablastoise - warning: that kind of thinking could make you bonjwa ^^

  • This game is a practice game I saw it on Demuslims stream

  • I love ravens so much.

  • i think this is more of a fun game rather than competitive game, they are just having fun

  • terran imba

  • didn't play starcraft 2 but why are zerg never building ultralisks?? i mean brood lord agains air superiority terran with thors backing up... does not look smart at least...

  • @enueck In pro matches zerg don't build ultralisks because they are easily taken down by ghosts and immortals. Also, zerg air is way stronger than terran air, that's why terrans always need another unit to support it in zvt.

  • @jerryfor2012 I see... ty!

  • @enueck If you have any more questions you'd like to ask, feel free.

  • TERRAN OP

  • Ret played better the whole game, such a shame terren is so OP.

  • i didn't know it's exist...thesourcedotcom...but it does!

  • @JonnyOfDread Well thats a good idea except the nydus unloads units 1 at a time so it would take a while for an entire army to get out and defend

  • @thereisnocoolname thanks thats a good point. i realize now that now matter how cool the concept of the strategy is it really isn't worth it.

  • wtf?

  • Not microing like a true zerg.

  • @nakke i dont believe you to be better?

  • 12:04 the marine having a chat with that robot

  • ret nat so good zerg player :(

  • @MsScarfase

    Kidding right? Ret just didn't played his best game.

  • wow, a Terran player beating a Zerg recently without the use of ghosts????!!!!!!

  • lol, listening to husky babble about creep spread whilst Demuslim builds 2 starports at the 7 minute mark. Still love u husky

  • Why did Husky make it seem like these players are any good? Especially Ret, he didn't know how to micro or make a team comp. But, I did love seeing them (especially DeMuslim) research all the weird upgrades, especially all that Terran junk.

  • Spread out brood lords... Yeah Husky nice one, try and spread out the slowest units in the game so an OP army can destroy you.

  • mech terran is kinda disgusting to watch.

  • Got so confused between red and ret :P

  • your intro was a rhyme. good job

  • Husky, i loved your vids leading up to and directly after the release of SC2.

    This is the first one i've seen in many many months, and damn it you still got the flow =)

  • jeez terran is so imba, he just neded to use auto attack to melt down that zerg army

  • husky is awesome

  • apart from mirror matches, the chances of us seeing a PvZ is not 1 out of 3 but more like 1 out of 20.....what does this tell u guys...

  • i hate it when red=blue

  • nice to see a mech game for a change

  • Livin in malaysia and it cost 200 buck for starcraft II =(

  • OMG the seeker missiles just dropped Rat supply from 200 to 149

    that is amazing

  • %)

  • Pft this game just shows how incredible op T is. Ret had 3 more bases but could not engage early because the turtling tanks terran had, could not break him later and just lost. Blizzard are all terran players or what?

  • @santeenl if ret harrassed, did drops, did nydus he could have slowed down the ball building up immensely. He also let every single broodlord he had die for free so that sure helped out demuslim

  • @leftandrightnut nythus doesnt help out, gets spotted and also dropping roaches had done some dmg, but not much. Besides he would loose 100 supply almost instantly and before he could make more broods demuslim would counter and would die. Maybe it works in low leagues, but not and their lvl. What ret did was good, slowly sacking the roach army and make infestor brood and corrupter party.

  • @santeenl Only thing that went wrong was loosing like 8 broods to those seeking misscles but yeah, zerg has no such things, only fungle with no range at all vs those ravens or he needed sick corrupter spread, so situation was way to ez for T player.

  • @santeenl the time has come where zerg learns that a move isnt enough to win... is it soo hard to split ur units, terran pros can handle that easily + zerg is supposed to have more bases. Go watch some of leenocks games, it all comes down to how one plays. Usually only noobs have problem with balance...

  • why is everytime terran wins a match they are automatically an easy race to play. Ret why no go ultraling with some corrupters

  • @theslayer445 because thors tank shrew ultra's up hardcore.

  • haha that seeker missile was disgusting.

  • This is another great video. Though everyone talks about it, I've never actually seen a pro level Terran do a successful, hardcore marcro mech play with lots of tech. The Ravens w Seeker Missile play against mass Broodlords was rad, well demonstrated alternative to mass Ghosts.

  • Bane burst!

  • i play plat level z, and find it increasinly difficult to beat terran mech, suggestions?

  • @CheckMyDubstep build lings... thats all i do and i have like 85% win rate vs terran XD

  • @CheckMyDubstep

    build immortals. 

    Oh wait.

  • @CheckMyDubstep Never build lings against mech. Mass roach with mutas can work well in plat. especially with burrow movement for the roaches to pop up on the tanks.

  • ive never played a game of starcraft2 but ive been watching competitive casts for a long time. recently ive wondered whether it would be a viable strategy to long distance mine using nydus networks, basicly building all the hatcheries in the main and building a nydus in their place at each esxpansion. so in the case of pressure at an expansion it would be a simple matter to bring units to the location and evacuate drones to safety.

  • @mechablastoise It's an interesting idea, you should message SlayersDragon to have fun with/test it in a lower league match.

  • @mechablastoise Basically, no. Controlling all the drones individually would be just impossible. When you're going 3-4 bases, you will have 50-90 drones and they mine in a cycle, not all at once.

  • @mechablastoise husky test it out and show us in a video whether this works or not =D

  • @Shyturhellout oh gosh i wish he would try something with this, it seems that in every other episode he talks about how nydus is underutilized.

  • @mechablastoise won't work without mouseclicks...

  • @mechablastoise there's actually a video where someone does exactly that, can't remember whose video tho. look around.

  • @mechablastoise

    It is possible, it was done in the beta, but it isn't easy to do because you have to queue up your drones continuously to keep going into the nydus worms, otherwise they will "walk" back to your base the long way. So your APM needs to be insane to keep that up and still be doing anything else.

  • @pongsifu666 thanks for the info. its too bad blizzard doesn't change the drone pathing to work in such a way to make this strat possible. because i think a lot of people are interested in the way that nydus mining would affect the game ( that is just based upon the amount of attention that my first comment received). Also while i am thinking about this which zerg units cannot fit into a nydus?

  • @mechablastoise

    Any ground unit can use a nydus network.

  • @pongsifu666 thanks no one else has answered that part as far as i can see.

  • @mechablastoise been tested before on hd's channel. problem is, you either have crazy good micro to control the drones to unload and load up.

  • @mechablastoise there was a strat about that way back but it was really really micro intensive.. even for a progamer!

  • @mechablastoise You need to manually unload from the nydus so you would be wasting a lot of your attention microing out drones from the worms.

  • @mechablastoise Love your thought process, I personally think the micro would have to be intense.

  • @mechablastoise unfortunately  it is not, because you have to constantly press D to unload drones from the nydus to mine. it would take an inhuman amount of APM to pull that off and still macro and micro.

  • @mechablastoise it is possible, but not reccomended as you have to queue up the mining commands, and overall is just not worth the effort you have to put into it to make it work. I think HDstarcraft has a video on it.

  • @mechablastoise Unfortunately that wouldn't work because you would have to manually load/unload each drone from the network. It would cost more APM than it would be worth.

  • @mechablastoise If you had NO other choice, yes it is actually possible -- I have actually tried it myself for fun.

    But for what your talking about, no it would not be viable what so ever. The APM you need to pull this off would have to be outrageous and it wold likely completely overwhelm your normal routine. Additionally, nydus worms can only send units and receive units one at a time. And they can only be sent in one direction at a time.

  • @mechablastoise watch this video i hope your questions will be answered. Search for "nydus mining" in Youtube and watch the first video.

  • @mechablastoise it be expensive and impractical. Plus the fact that you would spend alot of supply on drones and it is easily stoppable

  • @mechablastoise its extremely apm intensive but at pro level sure i guess it'd be a viable strat

  • @mechablastoise

    This assumes extremly good scouting since

    A: Nydus worms is the weakest building in the game.

    B: Nydus worms cost gas.

    C: You still need to wait for extractors to build.

    While re-expanding is faster, and could be used to ninja expand in late-game, all players gets a warning that a Nydus worm pops out, therefore, it can't really be used in this fashion.

    Unless mining a gold expansion, I wouldn't recommend it.

  • @Laganum all are good points, i never thought about building the extractors, which is probably because, as i said i haven't played the game. and ya mining a high yield seems like the only way to even come close to making this worth it.

  • @mechablastoise no way....you have to manually unload the nydus worms every round the workers do. To build a nydus worm at some ninja expo that is very far and cut away from the rest of your bases....it would be a good idea. But not for mining

  • @mechablastoise I think that would require a ton of apm.

  • @mechablastoise yea im gonna agree with everyone else it would take too much effort to mine like that

  • @mechablastoise haha if you haven't played it, don't try to tell us what a viable strategy might be.

  • @jerryfor2012 ha ha. relax i haven't told anyone what to do. i was genuinely asking a question, and thanks to the awesome responses so far, it has been answeared which is more than i expected.

  • @mechablastoise heh you should play the game first though.

  • @mechablastoise If your initial base is mined out, you're fully saturated everywhere else, and your opponent is blocking an expansion...maybe. It's hard to see how it would make more sense than building units to clear the way to expand - especially considering how fragile the network would be.

    Now if there were maps about 3-5 times the size of the current huge maps, it would be much more feasible.

  • Im getting sick of these stupid political ads in every freaking video!

  • I don't get it. If you are a capped Zerg why wouldn't you try for drops or nydus? It sounds more effective than poking and prodding the front lines. Especially if the Terran has a slow mech army. Once he returns to defend his main or natural then that gives you time to get your broods and maybe even get them into position on some expos. I believe nydus is the most under used technique of the Zerg arsenal. At least with a slow army and using nydus it gives you a good amount of time to retreat.

  • Does anyone know what map this is? It looks kind of like The Cloud Kingdom but has some differences.

  • Aren't ALL of the players husky casts his favorite players? You can pretty much assume that if husky doesn't say that you're his favorite player in a video, he hates you.

  • im so sick of these political commercials...

  • With the amount of resources spent on blords and roaches he could have gotten sooo many banes, especially when demuslim doesn't siege up...

  • Wohoo go DeMuslim! Flying the flag for the UK.

  • im using DeMuslim on game ranger!

  • Terran about to loose the game: gg

    Zerg about to loose the game: Shitloads of zerglings spawning.

    Protoss about to loose the game: Dark templar shrine being built and praying opponent doesnt have detection.

    Conclusion: Terran op :D

  • @Havocdk terran about to loose the game: siege up in the base with raised bunkers so that no units can come doesn't matter how big the army is and drop everywhere in the map.

    if you don't think that terran is op, ask any sc2 players, most of them will say it is.

  • seeker missiles rule!

  • Wait, tanks can't shoot AIR !?

  • LINING EM UP!

  • roaches: gettin high on your own supply

  • 400 lings for the lulz

  • This so proves that Protoss needs to be nerfed....

  • RED WON WITH MASS RAVENS

  • @JesusTwoThousand Spoilers, dude. Spoilers.

  • He should have changling bombed at 13:05.

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  • genius way to deal with mech biggest problem by using ravens to take out brood lords

  • Lmao - only the Roaches could've won the game.. At least destroyed the 3rd and 4th expoes..

    Zergs need to start play it a little bit more risky.. Some Nyduses, some BaneDrops over expoes, something like that.. Especially when Terran is going for mech play and moves out quite a distance some time after

  • @VArsovski10 It probably would have helped if ret had prepared to transition into mass zergling/baneling given that there were so few hellions on the field. (getting those attack ups would have helped the brood lords too). That being said I would agree that he lost that game by not killing either planetary when he had the opportunity.

  • wow seeker missiles are so fucking overpowered

  • @xxAlexLoves182xx lol funny joke

  • The one time ultras may actually have been useful lol.

  • Need ghost, and the composition of the terran army are perfect

  • DeMusliM is terran? Well. You learn something new.

  • Good game! I'm impressed by the terran player, and his use of ravens.

  • @WeaselWJ I'm impressed by how easy terran is to use, compared to zerg.

  • @Zalwio I'm unimpressed by your ignorance. The classic argument, "It is hard for me to beat ingame so it must be easy for my opponent," stopped holding weight when you passed middle school age. DeMuslim played very well and Ret played incorrectly in response, ergo DeMuslims' strategy came out on top. If mech was overpowered vs Zerg and was so easy to use and execute it would be all over the Korean ladder and likely emerging a top strategy TvZ. P.s. 4sdddddddddddddddddd seems hard yo

  • @cinnabun117 I think Goody kinda proved that terran is more about desicion making, than actual micro. Especially if you go mech. And the way that zerg nearly ALWAYS has to flank, makes it a much more micro intense race. But hopefully when SC2: Heart of the Swarm comes out, the new unit with the Dark Swarm alike magic, will hopefully change that.

  • @cinnabun117 as terran player, you simply have less to worry about. no need to worry about the defense because you have tanks and are able to repair. no need to worry about the air because turrets are the best anti air tower in the game not to mention the cheap marines. unless you make some really stupid mistakes, like sending your entire army into the enemy territory without looking them, you are likely to win.

  • @cinnabun117 Best to leave these sort of people alone. They usually have their heads stuck so far up their behinds that any form of objective analysis is beyond their reach. Just take solace that with their attitude, they will forever be complainers languishing in scrubland.

  • i mean sure, ret could have played better. but the fact is there's much less leeway for zerg players to mess up than there is for terran.

  • @cmgreen4 Heard of macro? Yeah....

  • seriously...protoss and zerg do not have an equivalent to ghosts and ravens. are you serious...even if ret had more corruptors, the ravens still would have had time to seeker missile the brood lords, and the brood lords are just too dang slow. and ghosts can snipe detection easily, so there goes ultras, infestors and also brood lords again. :/ mass ling might have worked, but why does zerg have to rely on making tier one units and like 100+ of them to win? not to mention SCVs; extreme repair...

  • Mech play <3

  • Ur mic is again low :(

  • This game is from the EG training sessions, so i'm guessing Ret is playing a little bit in the dark here. Also, Incontrol and other EG team mates are talking to demuslim during the game. Husky, i would love if you cast some of the other games they are throwing, just keep an eye on incontrol's twitter:D

  • Boy it feels GOOOOOOD to finally see a terran take out a broodlord/corruptor zerg in this way! I better get training my raven control! :D

  • @babthooka ther is a challenge witch u can use to train raven control :)

  • Ret Played really shitty this Game! Dont do a Shit with 200 Supply Roaches omg. Cant even kill a Planetary, its so easy....

  • @Skidd75 hahahhah plz stop commenting here if u don't know a shit.

  • @Frreyz Troll. You comment "omomom" ...you know the way it rolls fuck you.