Actually,with lethal injection the sodium pentathol is often not given enough time to set in. Without the the presence of sodium pentathol, the victim goes into extreme pain upon death. The Supreme Court is debating whether it is torture, actually. I'm against the death penalty too. Murder is murder no matter who the person being murdered is or has done; it does not fix anything and is never the answer. I'd recommend Change of Heart by Jodi Picoult for anyone who is pro death penalty.
@bookcreator Funny... I thought the electric chair and the gas chamber, for sure, constituted torture. But yeah, I'm against the death penalty, too. Like I said, it doesn't deter crime, it's a LOT more expensive than LWOP, it really doesn't help victim's families (contrary to popular belief), it's not applied fairly (it's used against the poorest of the poor, not the "worst of the worst"), and it results in the death of innocent people (which ultimately means NO ONE should be executed, PERIOD).
@Headhunter004 - You obviously are not speaking from the position of loving a loved one to a piece of human slime. The death penalty may not be a deterrent, but it helps to rid the earth of murderers.
You wouldn't be worried about the cost if one of your loved ones was murdered by a repeat offender who should have been zapped.
I think that if one of your family or friends were murdered needlessly by a repeat offender, you might think differently. If this has not happened, you cannot speak for people who have had this happen. You don't have to execute all offenders, but some don't deserve to live.
I say have mercy !
Have mercy on the murderer's next innocent victim !!!
@genesislover - Is the murderer allowed to say who lives or dies ?? I am just saying - have mercy on the next innocent victim of the murderer !!! Why do we have laws that say it's OK to kill unborn babies, and protect those who murder innocent people ?!?!?
FYI, capital cases only make it HARDER on families of murder victims, not the other way around! Their family members have to go through all the lengthy appeals processes, which re-traumatize them constantly for 15-20+ years. And you're right, please DO protect law abiding citizens, because the death penalty is often applied unfairly against those with low income, poor legal counsel and racial minorities, which will inevitably result in the execution of innocents. Do your research.
@Headhunter004 - oh and you have done your research - you wouldn't say this if one of your family members was murdered by an escaped convicted murder. The death penalty should be applicable in cases where it is completely, 100% apparent and repeat offenders of which there are many. Why are murderers more protected by our laws than unborn children???
FYI, I would NOT want to sit through 15-20+ years of hearings and appeals (which would NOT be the case if given LWOP), so yes, I would. Also, the DP is NOT given to those who are "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt," it's given unfairly and capriciously to racial minorities and the poor regardless of innocence or guilt. Lastly, did you know that many prisoners are released due to budget constraints, in which case, the DP is to blame with all the excruciating costs associated with it?
Typical Ad Hominem attack. Also, straight from the DPIC's main website...
NEW VOICES: "Death penalty hurts not helps families of murder victims"
"Make no mistake I am a conservative, a victims advocate and a death penalty supporter. But my real life experience has taught me that as long as the death penalty is on the books in any form, it will continue to harm survivors. For that reason alone, it must be ended." Which shows you haven't done your research-no surprise, but...
@Headhunter004 - And I am saying protect the next innocent victim. There is a high percentage of murders who are released from prison that kill again and there seems to be a movement to save dollars that release prisoners early.
How does the death penalty hurt survivors?...and how can a person with the screen name "Headhunter004" take this position?
@DONGOE And you won't get that with the DP, quite the contrary. Lots of convicted killers are actually let out of jail early BECAUSE of the DP and its high costs, read here:
deathpenaltyinfo(dot)org/node/599
BTW, it hurts survivors because they have to sit through DECADES of appeals while they wait for their execution to be carried out, learn how the system works. Also, INNOCENT people have been executed, too; therefore, it is inherently wrong whether victim's families want it or not.
I disagree with you on this. I believe the current form of criminal punishment isnt severe enough! I believe that we need to make the death penaltie more intense. Bring back the more tourtureous forms and the crime rate would fall. Bring back hangings, Drawing and quartering, beheadings. If they were, there wouldnt be as many people willing to commit a crime.
@evil1337 FYI... back in the 1930's, we had gas chambers, electric chairs, hangings, etc, all different forms of execution, and not only that, but back then, we were executing a LOT more than today, and executions were carried out fairly quickly then, too (they took a few months to a year) and it STILL wasn't a deterrent, the crime rate was even higher then than it is now! Also, states with the DP have MUCH higher murder rates than states that DON'T use the DP, so much for it being a deterrent.
What about the Nazi's hanged after WWII for perpetrating the Holocaust? I think execution should only be the punishment for the most serious crimes of all (mass murder, genocide, treason, terrorism etc.) because the vile scum who commit such crimes do not deserve the right to live.
Sweetie you obliviously live a sheltered life. There are people that are pure evil that need to be killed. If you saw police crime scene photo of a 13 year old that had her underwear pulled up to her neck with her legs still spread open and about 50 stab wounds in her chest neck and face would make you think different,especially if it happened to your sister or mother.why study a sociopath? you think it hasn't been done? Your just another amateur. intellectual
Hey Krissie, I like your rant on capital punishment, though personally, the reason I am against it is not so much the emotional vengeance part, per se, but because of all the innocent people who have been put on death row. Since 1973, a total of 123 innocent people have been put on death row in error, now that's WAY too many. Anybody FOR capital punishment, take a minute and be in the shoes of an innocent person on death-row capital punishment aint so good for you now, is it?
I agree with you completely, but you should know that death by lethal injection is often very painful. That drug they give they use to knock them out? Well, it doesn't always work.
Additionally, the procedure is usually done by someone with little to no medical training. The "nurse" often messes up - inserting the IV incorrectly, causing time and suffering to correct.
And the electric chair is even worse. I don't remember everything I'm trying to convey here, but you should consider lookingitup
but but depending on their crime for example if they murdered someone deliberatly it should be lifelong sentence, so they live out the rest of their lives in jail, cuz otherwize the guy will just wait till he gets out and do it again, (just a question does the US STill have the death penalty? I know we Canadians don't anymore) but we have a very lousy justice system
i think injection's are to expensive so to save money, and time lets put a bullet in there head. i think who ever did a should be punished. now depending the crime like rapest or child rapest should get there ass beat, probally alot worse than that. murders were probally inspired the horror movies we see today. please post back, i would love to what have to about my opion
Murders don't belong in an institute...They deserve a shotgun blast to the head. I personally think that the government should go into every prison in the US and kill all the murders, rapists, and child molesters. Hell, if I had it my way I'd prefer to be the one going in and killing them. They don't deserve to live. I don't give to shits about it being immoral, they didn't think about what they were doing was wrong when they did the crime. They knew what they were doing. And should die.
that they should be given a lethal injection. Gosh thats really the EASY way out compaired to what they do to some of their victims. Many people go through some very tough things in life but that don't give them the right to murder someone else in cold blood. The thing that goes wrong with the system today is that people sit on death row with appeal after appeal year after year when they are clearly GUILTY. If guilty, put them to death!
You spend a lot of time defending these people who torture innocent victims. People are hurt by others they trust all the time, it does not give a killer the right to go take someones life because they were abused themselves. It's called take responsibility for your actions. With all the DNA evidence that exists today, cases are cut and dry as to weither a person is a killer or not. I don't feel they should be tortured as it lowers others to the level of the killer mindset. I do feel
do they deserve the death penalty? yes... but what right do we have to make that decision? and far as justification for the victims,i understand how people would feel that way. its called anger. im sure if someone murdered my family my intial thought would be to kill that M*F* however i would later realize it would not make the situation better... the damage has been done so why stoop to their level?
I dont care what you are......Try to harm me and you will have a big problem on your hands,I dont take Threats too Lightly..You SOund like a BUSHITE anyway,So i wont waste anymore time On People Like You,,,,,,,
you have to imagine you are the little boy's mother or father.. go on.. imagine it. .. your life as you know it is over too...condemmned to a living hell of sadness and tormented by the thoughts of what your child must have gone through, he wanted you but you were not there. but it was not your fault. whose fault was it? Those bastards knew what they were doing. They deserve to die. Simple. The death penalty is about JUSTICE, nothing else.
No, that's about revenge. It's about lowering your moral responsibilities to appease a few. The point of civilisation is to raise humanity above it's base instincts and reach for a higher moral responsibilty.
If government is the servant of the people, it has no right to take the lives of the people under it's protection, no matter what they do
It's understandable that Helen Newlove and Denise Bulger want the want the death of the people who killed their loved ones Doesn't make them right.
ok try this... imagine you are the mother or father of Jamie Bulger. He was a much loved 6-year old boy who two young thugs led away from a shopping mall when his mother was not looking. They tortured him by cutting off his fingers and pushing batteries up his anus amongst other things. He died crying for his mummy. Now, these youths were 'under the age of criminal responsibility' so they were given a new identitity and shipped off to another country to live out their lives.
What frightens me is how many innocent people have ended up on death row and have then been found to be innocent. How many innocent people have died because they couldn't afford good legal representation? The poor do not have equal access to the justice system.
"He questioned himself if human society could have the right alike to crush its members, in the one case by its unreasonable carelessness, and in the other by its pitiless care; and to keep a poor man for ever between a lack and an excess, a lack of work, an excess of punishment." From Les Miserables which I strongly suggest you read. It is quite long so if you can't find the time read 7th chapter of the 2nd book entitled 'The Depths Of Despair' this is when books were still life changing. xXx
I truly respect your understanding of the criminal life. I personally believe that nothing is the responsibility of one man. Not even his own actions. Kahlil Gibran made this clear to me through analogy in 'The Prophet' - If hikers walk in a line and one more surefooted man avoids a loose rock whilst the next falls. It is both the fault of those in front of the fallen, and the fallen have helped those behind warning them. Much more eloquent in the book but that's the premise. xXx
The police should have that spray and light to tell if someone has fired a gun and matched with the finger prints on the gun would be good enough for me or a knife attack on video with the murderer caught at the seen,The psychologist should examine the women that fall in love with convicts,but not with tax payer money,this would be a lot safer Clarice
I really hope reality does not test your belief one day. Its easy to say all this stuff when you have never really went through anything related to it. Your life is very sheltered. As for your last comment, it doesn't make any sense. You said Homicidal people , like suicidal people do what they do to remove something toxic from society. Is that suppose to be an excuse for murder? That WE are toxic? Gimme a break!
I agree. You don't know what goes on inside a person's head. If we research them, then maybe we can get people who exhibit the same symptoms or pathologies help before they begin murdering people. Besides I believe being locked up inside a cage for the rest of your life, with crappy food, having to use the bathroom in public, is way worse than any death we could come up with. Just the humiliation would be unbearable.
I am for capital punishment. I think you might have missed what was meant by tax dollars. I think the argument is that a death penalty shouldn't take 20 years to carry out. I agree that it shouldn't be a pain thing. They should just be put to death. Death penalties are supposed to be a deterrent, but we have a weak system. If everyone, regardless of crime, served their full penalty there would be a real deterrent to all crimes. Just look at Bermuda. You steal you lose a hand. That is deterrence.
One more comment to your last... look, if someone wants to off themselves they are only hurting themselves. If someone wants to off other people I have a problem with that. I have the same problem here as I did with your smoking video. You feel that people should be able to do what they want. I feel that people should be able to do what they want as long as they aren't effecting other people. You can smoke as long as it doesn't bother a non-smoker. You can kill yourself, just not other people.
I am against capital punishment, but not for most of the same reasons you and other liberals are against it. I think that murderers and rapists and child molesters deserve death. But I believe life in prison is worse. Which is why they should be left to rot there. Also, the death penalty costs more money than it does to keep them in prison for life.
So taxpayers save money when they live, which is a win win. We save money, they get punished worse than death. But the main reason is that the system can make mistakes, and it's easier to let them out than it is to bring them back to life.
Also, how does making somebody a science project for the rest of their life reign higher on the moral scale then putting then ending their life. To add, my father is a schizophrenic and I can honestly say that I believe he would kill himself before hurting some innocent person. We don't kill ppl who kill ppl to show that killing is wrong. We end the lives of murderers to save the lives of future victims.
I believe that in some cases there are some people that should not be allowed to pollute this world. It's not about money and its not about emotional vengeance its about safety.Being sick doesn't make these people stupid. Putting them in a mental health facility to "study" just puts them closer to the general public.
it has not solved any thing in the past and only tightens peoples resolve you appear to be a middle class pagan with a brain perhaps a political carrear beckens but thats out because of the pagan way. but follow your heart you are not a follower but a leader.
I support capital punishment.Its VERY disturbing that you justify Bundys actions by claiming victimization by women. So-his fiancee broke up w/him. So-the women in his life betrayed him. Not every man who's had the same in life has killed dozens of INNOCENTS. All of these men told why they killed. They took lives, by way of NO illness they couldnt control. These men may have been victims at one time-but would YOU want to STUDY the pervert who killed YOUR little boy/girl? Eye for an eye...
Its real hard for me to decide on this issue, sometimes I think some people deserve to die for what they have done, on the other hand if we kill them i think we may become as bad as them. Showing kindness to criminals dosen't make someone weak, it shows your humanity, so all in all I suppose I agree with you Krissie on this issue though i think some people deserve to die I don't think we should really be the exectutioner, if you're religious like me then that's for God to judge.
The medieval executions involved half-hanging, drawing the limbs from the joints with wagon horses, disembowelment and burning of the intestines in the sight of the victim, castration and finally beheading.
Another form of execution was turning the victim upside down and slowly sawing the victim in half from the crotch to the neck. The victim remained alive because gravity supplied blood to the brain.
I agree that the criminally insane should be institutionalized instead of imprisoned; executing the insane for murder is almost on the same lines of killing someone for introducing an infectious disease to a community (of course, the disease in this case would be one of the mind, not the body). We should be studying the causes and symptoms of the disease to treat future victims instead of all this slash and burn nonsense. Great video!
im studying the death penalty in my religious studies class. could you tell me all the names of the people you mentioned like Ted Bundy. Thanks. You would be helping me a lot. =) great points by the way. =D
Way too liberal viewpoint on crime. And the appeals process is insane. Society is more important the the individual criminal.
I will say this - should someone commit a major crime against me they would be well served to be in prison because I would devote all of my time to getting him or her into a woodchipper and the remains thrown into the ocean.
Well, I kinda beleive in the whole "eye for an eye" rule and I kinda don't. The example they're trying to set is flawed and makes no sense. This is a very confusing subject because yes it's wrong to kill but yet we do have overflowing prisons and what can we do with them? Therapy? Some people will never change...
Wow . . . I thought I was the only person who felt that a homocidal person is a resource to be studied, not to be thrown out with the garbage. I think it makes more sense to learn what we can from them, and use that knowledge to *prevent* the next Jeffery Dahlmer or Kip Kinkel.
wow, u r an awesome speaker... i was always about capital punishment, solely on the emotion vengence... but what u say, it all makes sense... makes me think, maybe it is wrong...
The prisons are overflowing with lifers - what is immoral? The criminal's behavior or taking out the criminal and solving the problem? Capital punishment is good for society. Society should be more important than the individual. That is why America is in decline.
I believe right is right and wrong is wrong. My friend was murdered last year in michigan and we have the life sentence. I thought of this logically and with emotion and I believe this man should have to get the death penalty. This girl, my friend has never tried to hurt anyone or cause people pain, and this black man decided he wanted the truck she was in so bad that he had to kill her to get it.
all he had to do was pull her out of the truck and take off; but no he had to kill her.
For future reference, please comment on capital punishment in regards to our society as a whole not just specific individuals or group of people. Just a thought.
I am generally opposed to the death penalty, but I admit there are times where I have thought that the punishment did fit the crime. That being said, there are valid concerns where capitol punishment is concerned, and speeding up the appeal process may not alleviate those concerns, rather it actually adds to them, largely due to the alarming number of people who are being released after decades of wrongful imprisonment, as I recall one case was resolved more than 20 years later. Just a thought.
you argue your point very effectively. I still believe capital punishment (killing people) has its place, but I don't feel like its a black and white issue.
I love you, i seriously do! your points are so...i dont know the word...amazing maybe? and just Wow to your courage to stand up and say the things you do! I'd love to put my points across like you do! your an amazing person Krissie! Keep it up!
I luv ur videos...i agree with u totally on the issues of gay marriage/rights, capital punishment and animal testing. None of these issues are really relavent to me cos i live in europe (where we have laws as if you've created them!)....but its really interesting seeing these issues discussed from an American point of view
I enjoy a lot of your videos, for the fact that you're not some ignorant douchebag going around blabbing about some topic you know nothing about, it's good to see that some people still have a brain these days. Your insight on different topics has inspired me to learn more about what exactly I'm talking about in order to get a full view of what something is about.
Keep doing videos, they're quite entertaining to watch :)
Krissie, you have it all wrong. There are some heinous murders that can only be remedied by capital punishment to assure no repetition and closure for the victim's family. How about showing some of that overflowing empathy for the victim. I think its great that your interested in the criminal mind, but your rationalizing what these sick thugs have done as if the reason for their behavior justifies it. Society is obligated to eliminate murderous behavior permanently when appropriate.
Blaaaahhhhhh...It's a form of punishment. And people who willing make the choice to go out and kill an innocent person, well you know what there are consequences for your actions. SOOOO maybe people shouldn't stupid and kill innocent people in the first Place!!
You can prevent the threat, or after it's created, get rid of it. Since society as a whole can't change, we need to change our forms punishment. Seems confusing I know, but it's hard to make it make sense, and keep it short.
I don't believe in killing people. However, I feel the punishment should fit the crime. The softer we've gotten on crimminals, the more people become crimminals. I don't believe these people should be re-released into society. Speaking of society, we need to be better parents so our children don't become mentally ill to the point that they want to kill. We should be nicer to each other and stop hurting each other. Some people get hurt, or broken to the point of no repair and become a threat.
I agree with you and Penn and Teller!This was the first discussion my class had for debate,and I'm surprised some were for it.For the "eye for and eye" arguement and to save tax money,all of which P&T said was BS.but in some,but small occasions for lethal injections,some did not get enough sodium theopenthal,and low enough levels to have been away the whole time.Those where did,may have suffered from extreme pain and suffication.
However they're psychopaths just like murderers are, they are for the most part hopeless, and they are a threat to society. And so I take it upon my own ideas and my reasonings to kill off rapists. But naturally people would call me horrible or a monster because I am not authority, and I do not make the laws. Therefor I would not be on any level listened to. But what do you want a bet that people wouldn't even care if an authority figure decided it's okay? This is what I'm talking about here.
Many would call you a monster but not all. People tend to think with their hearts rather than their heads. Just as those who would support you would mostly do it for emotional reasons. Laws should be based on reason and naturally mostly are.
For example many are against stem cell research, again for emotional reasons, even though it will be an invaluable remedy.
Further adding to that, what if I suddenly decided that it's best if I kill off all rapists I know of to clean up society, instead of simply turning them into an asylum? Sure, I am not authority, but authority is human as well, and they can make mistakes, and do wrong. Is authority any more right then I am in choosing whether someone lives or dies based on authorities ideas of what is best for the country as a whole? Naturally people would call me a monster for doing it.
Even if we are saving money, that doesn't mean it's justified. Those who are wrongfully accused in a sense are being sacrifice for the countries overall financial situation, and they aren't even getting a say in the matter.
Yeah but no matter how you play it, the money you put into something is always away from everything else. For example if we spend a lot of money saving someone here, with the same amount of money we could have saved many more in a poor country. Resources are scarce so we can never save everyone.
The problem with that argument is that who exactly are you saving? If your lobbying for death for each and every one of these individuals, then it's impossible to use it for that purpose, because these individuals you are speaking of will already be dead.
And, if as you say they are beyond reasonable hope, then there is no need to spend money on trying to save them. And again, the problem still lies in that there have been several people wrongfully accused.
I think you were responding to my comment so here goes. I´m not sure what you´re trying to say with that first bit.
By saying "beyond reasonable hope" I mean those that anyone can tell are clearly f***ed up and there isn´t a shadow of a doubt whether or not they are guilty. So no, those wrongfully accused aren´t getting the axe. But again, if those people will spend the rest of their lives in jail we will effectively have taken their lives regardless.
Good points, but I can´t say I agree completely. I think the part about saving money is meant so that the money can be used to save people who we can still save, though in the real world the money wouldn´t all go to that purpose obviously.
Getting rid of those who are beyond reasonable hope is just common sense to me. Killing people isn´t the only way to take their lives away, imprisonment pretty much does the same thing. I don´t think a crappy life is really worth living.
True, paying for the in-prisonment of criminals is not good for society, but neither is the fact that there are also falsly accused people being sent to their deaths due to Captial Punishment. What do you say to their families? "Well, we wanted to save money."
My personal thoughts are that Capital Punishment doesn't exist, and also that life in prison sentences should only be for the individuals whose insanity is un-relenting. But of course, I am also for those individuals to be put in asylums
Well done. I am against capital punishment, too. I don't see how sticking a needle in someone's arm is going to bring a victim back. Yes, that person might be guilty of whatever crime they committed, but I would rather lock them up and throw away the key instead of puting them on death row.
Sure. When someone kills someone else they lose all of their rights. They have taken away the now dead person's rights and thus they should not have any. At this point in time, money IS indeed more important and pressing than that piece of pond scum murderer. I don't want to feed murderers.
Following criminals should only be able to receive the death sentence, murderers, pedophiles, rapists, mobsters, drug dealers, corrupt politicians, violent repeat-offenders, corrupt corporate scumbags, corrupt police officers, corrupt lawyers & dishonest high-profile journalists. Death through hanging as well, with sentences carried out within 72 hours. Repeat offenders of lesser crimes should be sterilized.
Aside from the typical punishment and rehabilitation that comes with a prison sentence, I think that capital pushiment has a 100% success rate: those criminals who are executed never go out and commit any more crime. Can't get any more effective than that.
i think it was vary informative and befor i watch this video i wasnt sure where i stud with the death peantlty now i agrea with (you srry about any misspelings)
i'm sorry.. but when a deviant individual takes the life of an innocent individual they do not deserve to live... yes it sounds harsh.. but I really don't see how jail-time can be looked at as a fair/justified form of punishment.
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Not really. I understand everything you said-however, I think your point of view is off. I have heard almost all of the anti-capital punishment arguments and ALL of them can be countered with intelligent statements. I have heard everything from deterrence to the death penalty actually increasing murder rates (HUH?). The entire argument is based on a person's point of view.
It is you that misses the point, Entirely. Statements such as "why do we kill people who kill" is cliche and shows no original thought (I've heard that little sound bite before from people who oppose the death penalty). What is the alternative? Lock up the killers in a nice coochie
How about bump them off so we no longer need to have them as a burden to anyone? The cliche, "why should we kill people to show that killing is wrong?" is inaccurate, because CP is not to SHOW anything, but to punish FOR a crime. Also, it is to punish for a certain type of killing, murder.
Having emotional problems is not an excuse for murdering innocent people. Would you like to be murdered just because somebody hates women? If somebody attacks me, I would not be interested in who his mother or girlfriend was. It is not a difference for me. I don't mind suidicers. Let them do what they will.
It's killing other people (unless they are criminals), not killing oneself that I have a problem with.
Indeed, I find it very disturbing that people like Krissie are seeking justifications for the murderer's actions. When a maniac kills innocent women, abolitionists will say, "Ah, he had a traumatic childhood". When a robber murders a store clerk, abolitionists will say, "Ah, he is a poor guy exploited by greedy capitalists". Having a "bad childhood" and being poor are not excuses for committing a murder. If someone is mentally sick, get some help. If someone is poor, get a damn job!
Essentially, you are trying to say that murderers are not in control of their actions. It might be true for mentally disturbed people (e.g. Jeffrey Dahmer). However, there are murders that are not motivated by mental disorders. People can murder for malicious purposes (e.g., robbery). What kind of excuses would you come up to justify their actions?
What about child molestors? Do you think that scum that FORCE SEX ON HELPLESS CHILDREN should be preserved? We are talking taboo here! What about murder or rape of a senior citizen?
You have a lot of valid points...and for the most part, I agree with you...but sometimes, some people just deserve to die. Like Sadaam and Osama, and Hitler...I think THOSE people deserve to not live anymore...but other than that, I agree.
Hi Im stuart from Scotland I have just watched your video and completely agree with everything you speak of the terminoligy "hit the nail on the head" springs to mind I just hope that society can start to see the bigger picture.
p.s the lethal ingection procedure is quite often not done correctly when the victem is sussposed to be unconcious they are often merly unable to move but can feel everything aloth dont display any physical sings of pain .
Oh no! That is so horrible. The idea is not to worry whether or not they feel pain because they are dying. It is an execution; not an operation. Let's use the guillotine, since that ends it within a 70th of a second!
I agree. If we could research why people are homicidal, we could find a cure or a way to reduce it. If we don't do that soon enough, then later it might be too late.
Krissie, I've enjoyed your videos, and I think you're very smart. It's great to see someone posting videos with informed opinions, whether I agree with them or not. ;) Go edumacation!
I am sick of people using their faith to manipulate politics and criminal law. Religious people need to keep their beliefs to themselves!! They are violating my civil liberties of freedom and protection. The founding fathers clearly stated in the consitution that religion and government should be separate. The direction this country is heading is into self destruction.
You don't have clue what you are talking about. Appeals don't cost tax payers a fraction of the dollar amount of supporting these shit heads for life. Not to mention the new prisons that have to be built, the medical care they need and the higher education they are eligible to pursue. Were talking billions of dollars not the thousands for appeals you preach. Go get and education please.
Don't sugar coat it, tell me how you really feel. Seriously, you have a different opinion than I do, and I am educated. Maybe I don't have a little piece of paper saying that I'm worth it intellectually, but I speak of the facts I have learned. At least I know what tact is.
Girl you are so full of shit my computer screen reaks. It costs 60,000 a year to support these scum bags in prison. Several million for a life sentence. Fuck the appeal process...these guys were found guilty and sentenced to die...thus should be put to death immediately. These guys to give a damm about you or society and will kill again without remorse. You are nothing but an ingorant stupid child. Get your head out of your ass!!
Although appeals are part of the justice system, the process needs to be restricted and sped up. Give them 2 to 3 appeals, which may take about 3-4 years at the most and juice them. BTW, lethal injection costs $86.
I THINK ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY IS WORTH SOMEBODY'S LIFE!! all criminal's life by the way! their lifes have no value for me, oh, acctually they have a negative value! In a poor country, as most of the world r, a guy in jail costs the non-going to school of many children, whose parent's payed taxes r spent with a criminal who wouldn't think twice to kill a whole family to get a glass of water.
First, no right minded person murders. Something is off kilter. Two, despite that fact if the animal is rabid you MUST put it down. Such is the case with people. It's harsh I don't like to fathom the idea of killing a criminal. It may however be necessary.
If they kill,rape or torture my family then who gives a flying flip what they feel when they get the death penalty.
If its proven 100% that they were the person that did it,then they deserve what they get.If its not proven 100%(with DNA proof) then give em solitary confinement for life,with no option to get out for any reason.Unless its proven they were convicted falsely.
Life in prison with its daily exposure to rape, brutality and confinement is not only truly cruel, but it is also very unusual punishment. The gentle, sterile injection of lethal drugs is the merciful, easy way out.
Great words, Great stuff
bigjimy669 1 year ago
Capital punishment? Never met an inncocent young girl yet that was for it.
Boring, same old silly liberal arguments on behalf of murderers. Very lame.
FaganRoberts 1 year ago
I don't know the laws of usa but here in Greece we have a procedural rule.
We are not criminalizes the criminal thought. there is no "thought crime".
We criminalize only the ACT.
So i thing the phrase "criminal mind" is a little dangerous for the civil rights
AcheronCoven 1 year ago
Actually,with lethal injection the sodium pentathol is often not given enough time to set in. Without the the presence of sodium pentathol, the victim goes into extreme pain upon death. The Supreme Court is debating whether it is torture, actually. I'm against the death penalty too. Murder is murder no matter who the person being murdered is or has done; it does not fix anything and is never the answer. I'd recommend Change of Heart by Jodi Picoult for anyone who is pro death penalty.
bookcreator 1 year ago
@bookcreator Funny... I thought the electric chair and the gas chamber, for sure, constituted torture. But yeah, I'm against the death penalty, too. Like I said, it doesn't deter crime, it's a LOT more expensive than LWOP, it really doesn't help victim's families (contrary to popular belief), it's not applied fairly (it's used against the poorest of the poor, not the "worst of the worst"), and it results in the death of innocent people (which ultimately means NO ONE should be executed, PERIOD).
Headhunter004 1 year ago
@Headhunter004 - You obviously are not speaking from the position of loving a loved one to a piece of human slime. The death penalty may not be a deterrent, but it helps to rid the earth of murderers.
You wouldn't be worried about the cost if one of your loved ones was murdered by a repeat offender who should have been zapped.
DONGOE 1 year ago
If you're not against capital punishment then pay for criminals to live a comfortable prison life out of your own fucking pocket.
Jeffrey Dahmer eat your heart out which is an
interesting thought in and of itself!
UnsatiableEloquence 1 year ago
Ask yourself one question - How would you feel if your child was brutally killed by a serial murderer?
Would you like it on your conscience - a child murdered by a repeat offender who escaped or freed from prison ?
Again, HAVE MERCY...on the next innocent victim !!!
DONGOE 2 years ago
Your opinion is very dignified, but naive.
I think that if one of your family or friends were murdered needlessly by a repeat offender, you might think differently. If this has not happened, you cannot speak for people who have had this happen. You don't have to execute all offenders, but some don't deserve to live.
I say have mercy !
Have mercy on the murderer's next innocent victim !!!
Protect law abiding citizens.
DONGOE 2 years ago
@DONGOE So another person isn't allowed to decide who deserves to live, but you are?
genesislover 1 year ago
@genesislover - Is the murderer allowed to say who lives or dies ?? I am just saying - have mercy on the next innocent victim of the murderer !!! Why do we have laws that say it's OK to kill unborn babies, and protect those who murder innocent people ?!?!?
DONGOE 1 year ago
@DONGOE
FYI, capital cases only make it HARDER on families of murder victims, not the other way around! Their family members have to go through all the lengthy appeals processes, which re-traumatize them constantly for 15-20+ years. And you're right, please DO protect law abiding citizens, because the death penalty is often applied unfairly against those with low income, poor legal counsel and racial minorities, which will inevitably result in the execution of innocents. Do your research.
Headhunter004 1 year ago
@Headhunter004 - oh and you have done your research - you wouldn't say this if one of your family members was murdered by an escaped convicted murder. The death penalty should be applicable in cases where it is completely, 100% apparent and repeat offenders of which there are many. Why are murderers more protected by our laws than unborn children???
DONGOE 1 year ago
@DONGOE
FYI, I would NOT want to sit through 15-20+ years of hearings and appeals (which would NOT be the case if given LWOP), so yes, I would. Also, the DP is NOT given to those who are "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt," it's given unfairly and capriciously to racial minorities and the poor regardless of innocence or guilt. Lastly, did you know that many prisoners are released due to budget constraints, in which case, the DP is to blame with all the excruciating costs associated with it?
Headhunter004 1 year ago
@Headhunter004 - Interesting attitude from a person with the name "Headhunter"
DONGOE 1 year ago
@DONGOE
Typical Ad Hominem attack. Also, straight from the DPIC's main website...
NEW VOICES: "Death penalty hurts not helps families of murder victims"
"Make no mistake I am a conservative, a victims advocate and a death penalty supporter. But my real life experience has taught me that as long as the death penalty is on the books in any form, it will continue to harm survivors. For that reason alone, it must be ended." Which shows you haven't done your research-no surprise, but...
Headhunter004 1 year ago
@Headhunter004 - And I am saying protect the next innocent victim. There is a high percentage of murders who are released from prison that kill again and there seems to be a movement to save dollars that release prisoners early.
How does the death penalty hurt survivors?...and how can a person with the screen name "Headhunter004" take this position?
This doesn't sound very credible.
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@DONGOE And you won't get that with the DP, quite the contrary. Lots of convicted killers are actually let out of jail early BECAUSE of the DP and its high costs, read here:
deathpenaltyinfo(dot)org/node/599
BTW, it hurts survivors because they have to sit through DECADES of appeals while they wait for their execution to be carried out, learn how the system works. Also, INNOCENT people have been executed, too; therefore, it is inherently wrong whether victim's families want it or not.
Headhunter004 1 year ago
I disagree with you on this. I believe the current form of criminal punishment isnt severe enough! I believe that we need to make the death penaltie more intense. Bring back the more tourtureous forms and the crime rate would fall. Bring back hangings, Drawing and quartering, beheadings. If they were, there wouldnt be as many people willing to commit a crime.
evil1337 2 years ago 2
@evil1337 FYI... back in the 1930's, we had gas chambers, electric chairs, hangings, etc, all different forms of execution, and not only that, but back then, we were executing a LOT more than today, and executions were carried out fairly quickly then, too (they took a few months to a year) and it STILL wasn't a deterrent, the crime rate was even higher then than it is now! Also, states with the DP have MUCH higher murder rates than states that DON'T use the DP, so much for it being a deterrent.
Headhunter004 1 year ago
@evil1337 Yeah but you need to remember the 8th amendment.
mikeyrobins022585 1 month ago
I am 100% with Krissie on this one.
SummerSunshine1988 2 years ago
What about the Nazi's hanged after WWII for perpetrating the Holocaust? I think execution should only be the punishment for the most serious crimes of all (mass murder, genocide, treason, terrorism etc.) because the vile scum who commit such crimes do not deserve the right to live.
TashkentFox 2 years ago 2
How can you put genocide and treason in the same bucket? Yes, treason is bad, very bad indeed, but comparing it to genocide and mass murder?!
@ Krissie
I agree with 110% of what you said. And this goes for all of your videos I've watched so far.
Smishonak 2 years ago
@TashkentFox
treason doesnt belong in that list.
SamuelllSabotage 2 years ago
@TashkentFox That was the whole problem with the Nazis. They thought that they knew who deserved the right to live and who didn't.
genesislover 1 year ago
Yes they did something wrong?
Sweetie you obliviously live a sheltered life. There are people that are pure evil that need to be killed. If you saw police crime scene photo of a 13 year old that had her underwear pulled up to her neck with her legs still spread open and about 50 stab wounds in her chest neck and face would make you think different,especially if it happened to your sister or mother.why study a sociopath? you think it hasn't been done? Your just another amateur. intellectual
flatpat1 2 years ago
Reforming criminals would be much better for our society in theory. You have very good points in this vid. Equal rights... Ha.What a fallacy
You speak the truth, I'd like to know as well.
You can't generalize like that at the end of the video.
Not everyone fits into the category. I'm not sure who you were speaking to.
Also, I'm not sure what you mean by the homicidal mind. Killers minds, or homicidal minds?
In any eventuality, be careful when doing so if you turn it into a career. Obviously
whywillyounotdie 2 years ago
Hey Krissie, I like your rant on capital punishment, though personally, the reason I am against it is not so much the emotional vengeance part, per se, but because of all the innocent people who have been put on death row. Since 1973, a total of 123 innocent people have been put on death row in error, now that's WAY too many. Anybody FOR capital punishment, take a minute and be in the shoes of an innocent person on death-row capital punishment aint so good for you now, is it?
Headhunter004 2 years ago
Where did you get 123 from?
Goofus5453 2 years ago
Death punishment isnt punishment its only warning for others, so we can call it sacrifice.
Eagle21trueGabriel 2 years ago
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Shut up, retard.
Orion1232 2 years ago
I agree with you completely, but you should know that death by lethal injection is often very painful. That drug they give they use to knock them out? Well, it doesn't always work.
Additionally, the procedure is usually done by someone with little to no medical training. The "nurse" often messes up - inserting the IV incorrectly, causing time and suffering to correct.
And the electric chair is even worse. I don't remember everything I'm trying to convey here, but you should consider lookingitup
ssnakeggirl 2 years ago
Which is why long drop hanging is the best method of capital punishment, death normally occurs a fraction of a second after the trap door opens.
TashkentFox 2 years ago
MY KITTY LIKES TO WATCH THIS... I thought it was funny she calmed down and is watching this like crazy...
WishfulStarz 2 years ago
I absolutely agree with you. Murder is based on a vengeance mentality, and is bad for everyone no matter what the reason.
BoydAdams27 2 years ago
i think leathl injection is to humman we should go back to the electric chair, and gas chamber so they will feel the pain of their victoms
jsweet83 2 years ago
i agree wth you
but but depending on their crime for example if they murdered someone deliberatly it should be lifelong sentence, so they live out the rest of their lives in jail, cuz otherwize the guy will just wait till he gets out and do it again, (just a question does the US STill have the death penalty? I know we Canadians don't anymore) but we have a very lousy justice system
sh9683 2 years ago
Great video, krissie!
daganliberal 2 years ago
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. I completely agree with you. I love all you points.
TheWiccanGoddessEcho 2 years ago
i think injection's are to expensive so to save money, and time lets put a bullet in there head. i think who ever did a should be punished. now depending the crime like rapest or child rapest should get there ass beat, probally alot worse than that. murders were probally inspired the horror movies we see today. please post back, i would love to what have to about my opion
bigmancomputer 2 years ago
Murders don't belong in an institute...They deserve a shotgun blast to the head. I personally think that the government should go into every prison in the US and kill all the murders, rapists, and child molesters. Hell, if I had it my way I'd prefer to be the one going in and killing them. They don't deserve to live. I don't give to shits about it being immoral, they didn't think about what they were doing was wrong when they did the crime. They knew what they were doing. And should die.
Woodsman154 2 years ago
that they should be given a lethal injection. Gosh thats really the EASY way out compaired to what they do to some of their victims. Many people go through some very tough things in life but that don't give them the right to murder someone else in cold blood. The thing that goes wrong with the system today is that people sit on death row with appeal after appeal year after year when they are clearly GUILTY. If guilty, put them to death!
ZombieIsHungry 2 years ago
You spend a lot of time defending these people who torture innocent victims. People are hurt by others they trust all the time, it does not give a killer the right to go take someones life because they were abused themselves. It's called take responsibility for your actions. With all the DNA evidence that exists today, cases are cut and dry as to weither a person is a killer or not. I don't feel they should be tortured as it lowers others to the level of the killer mindset. I do feel
ZombieIsHungry 2 years ago
they should kill them faster,so it waste less $
subwiredesire 2 years ago 2
do they deserve the death penalty? yes... but what right do we have to make that decision? and far as justification for the victims,i understand how people would feel that way. its called anger. im sure if someone murdered my family my intial thought would be to kill that M*F* however i would later realize it would not make the situation better... the damage has been done so why stoop to their level?
ashtyn18 2 years ago
excecution and murder are NOT the same thing.
exactly, they're asleep, so their excecution is not as brutal as their act. so really they're getting off more lightly.
excecution is a completely proportionate punishment. it is completely logical
danjames56 2 years ago
They are supposed to be INCARCERATED for thr REST of their LIFE..Not EXECUTED....Your Right Krissy
Nostraden63 2 years ago
freddymagick:
I dont care what you are......Try to harm me and you will have a big problem on your hands,I dont take Threats too Lightly..You SOund like a BUSHITE anyway,So i wont waste anymore time On People Like You,,,,,,,
Nostraden63 2 years ago
Krissie,You Forgot to mention this
"For You who are without SIN,Let him cast the first Stone"
Nostraden63 2 years ago
i think shes wiccan, lol.....
Inuyashafreak9494 2 years ago
there are some people in this world that are so evil that there is nothing else you can do with them. You use capital punishment to protect society
freddymagick 3 years ago
You And I are NOT GOD.........You Order the Kill You Tpp WIll be Judged Accordingly..."Let he who is without sin,Cast the First STONE"
Nostraden63 2 years ago
That does not work on me I am a Pagan. Some people do need to die just like if you find a Dog with rabies you need to kill it to protect others
freddymagick 2 years ago
you have to imagine you are the little boy's mother or father.. go on.. imagine it. .. your life as you know it is over too...condemmned to a living hell of sadness and tormented by the thoughts of what your child must have gone through, he wanted you but you were not there. but it was not your fault. whose fault was it? Those bastards knew what they were doing. They deserve to die. Simple. The death penalty is about JUSTICE, nothing else.
jegspillerpiano 3 years ago
No, that's about revenge. It's about lowering your moral responsibilities to appease a few. The point of civilisation is to raise humanity above it's base instincts and reach for a higher moral responsibilty.
If government is the servant of the people, it has no right to take the lives of the people under it's protection, no matter what they do
It's understandable that Helen Newlove and Denise Bulger want the want the death of the people who killed their loved ones Doesn't make them right.
Beelzeboogie 3 years ago
ok try this... imagine you are the mother or father of Jamie Bulger. He was a much loved 6-year old boy who two young thugs led away from a shopping mall when his mother was not looking. They tortured him by cutting off his fingers and pushing batteries up his anus amongst other things. He died crying for his mummy. Now, these youths were 'under the age of criminal responsibility' so they were given a new identitity and shipped off to another country to live out their lives.
jegspillerpiano 3 years ago
Which would be an argument for a longer (or indeed life long) sentence not the death penalty.
ywrtywto09 2 years ago
What frightens me is how many innocent people have ended up on death row and have then been found to be innocent. How many innocent people have died because they couldn't afford good legal representation? The poor do not have equal access to the justice system.
spiritofwicca 3 years ago
Killing people that kill, is like fucking for virginity!
TarotLadyLissa 3 years ago
"He questioned himself if human society could have the right alike to crush its members, in the one case by its unreasonable carelessness, and in the other by its pitiless care; and to keep a poor man for ever between a lack and an excess, a lack of work, an excess of punishment." From Les Miserables which I strongly suggest you read. It is quite long so if you can't find the time read 7th chapter of the 2nd book entitled 'The Depths Of Despair' this is when books were still life changing. xXx
curzmg 3 years ago
I truly respect your understanding of the criminal life. I personally believe that nothing is the responsibility of one man. Not even his own actions. Kahlil Gibran made this clear to me through analogy in 'The Prophet' - If hikers walk in a line and one more surefooted man avoids a loose rock whilst the next falls. It is both the fault of those in front of the fallen, and the fallen have helped those behind warning them. Much more eloquent in the book but that's the premise. xXx
curzmg 3 years ago
The police should have that spray and light to tell if someone has fired a gun and matched with the finger prints on the gun would be good enough for me or a knife attack on video with the murderer caught at the seen,The psychologist should examine the women that fall in love with convicts,but not with tax payer money,this would be a lot safer Clarice
mike71470 3 years ago
What pain is in the death penalty?
Its called waiting - waiting to die, imagining what it will be like.
"The sense of things is in the anticipation"
-Shakespeare
Imagine
edydon 3 years ago
I really hope reality does not test your belief one day. Its easy to say all this stuff when you have never really went through anything related to it. Your life is very sheltered. As for your last comment, it doesn't make any sense. You said Homicidal people , like suicidal people do what they do to remove something toxic from society. Is that suppose to be an excuse for murder? That WE are toxic? Gimme a break!
L0C85 3 years ago
you are so smart I hate math 2 but why the hell didnt you get through high school? I really hope you do good with the ged
spadeyomoma 3 years ago
Why do these people get to have a Decent death. Obviously they didn't give there victims that option... They sure as hell don't deserve that!
leishman1984 3 years ago
I agree. You don't know what goes on inside a person's head. If we research them, then maybe we can get people who exhibit the same symptoms or pathologies help before they begin murdering people. Besides I believe being locked up inside a cage for the rest of your life, with crappy food, having to use the bathroom in public, is way worse than any death we could come up with. Just the humiliation would be unbearable.
Hatesfury08 3 years ago
I agree.
travisrashawn216 3 years ago
I swear, you should be the prez.
Aram45 3 years ago
i agree krissie would make a great prez
lolitachan13 3 years ago
I am for capital punishment. I think you might have missed what was meant by tax dollars. I think the argument is that a death penalty shouldn't take 20 years to carry out. I agree that it shouldn't be a pain thing. They should just be put to death. Death penalties are supposed to be a deterrent, but we have a weak system. If everyone, regardless of crime, served their full penalty there would be a real deterrent to all crimes. Just look at Bermuda. You steal you lose a hand. That is deterrence.
honolulugold 3 years ago
One more comment to your last... look, if someone wants to off themselves they are only hurting themselves. If someone wants to off other people I have a problem with that. I have the same problem here as I did with your smoking video. You feel that people should be able to do what they want. I feel that people should be able to do what they want as long as they aren't effecting other people. You can smoke as long as it doesn't bother a non-smoker. You can kill yourself, just not other people.
honolulugold 3 years ago
I am against capital punishment, but not for most of the same reasons you and other liberals are against it. I think that murderers and rapists and child molesters deserve death. But I believe life in prison is worse. Which is why they should be left to rot there. Also, the death penalty costs more money than it does to keep them in prison for life.
AnonymousSlayer 3 years ago
So taxpayers save money when they live, which is a win win. We save money, they get punished worse than death. But the main reason is that the system can make mistakes, and it's easier to let them out than it is to bring them back to life.
AnonymousSlayer 3 years ago
Also, how does making somebody a science project for the rest of their life reign higher on the moral scale then putting then ending their life. To add, my father is a schizophrenic and I can honestly say that I believe he would kill himself before hurting some innocent person. We don't kill ppl who kill ppl to show that killing is wrong. We end the lives of murderers to save the lives of future victims.
EFrosty17 3 years ago
I believe that in some cases there are some people that should not be allowed to pollute this world. It's not about money and its not about emotional vengeance its about safety.Being sick doesn't make these people stupid. Putting them in a mental health facility to "study" just puts them closer to the general public.
EFrosty17 3 years ago
sin and punishment is a game for n64 this isnt the game
druha10304 3 years ago
it has not solved any thing in the past and only tightens peoples resolve you appear to be a middle class pagan with a brain perhaps a political carrear beckens but thats out because of the pagan way. but follow your heart you are not a follower but a leader.
moonuni 3 years ago
an eye for and eye
jerrylee76 3 years ago
I support capital punishment.Its VERY disturbing that you justify Bundys actions by claiming victimization by women. So-his fiancee broke up w/him. So-the women in his life betrayed him. Not every man who's had the same in life has killed dozens of INNOCENTS. All of these men told why they killed. They took lives, by way of NO illness they couldnt control. These men may have been victims at one time-but would YOU want to STUDY the pervert who killed YOUR little boy/girl? Eye for an eye...
calikaren71 3 years ago
Its real hard for me to decide on this issue, sometimes I think some people deserve to die for what they have done, on the other hand if we kill them i think we may become as bad as them. Showing kindness to criminals dosen't make someone weak, it shows your humanity, so all in all I suppose I agree with you Krissie on this issue though i think some people deserve to die I don't think we should really be the exectutioner, if you're religious like me then that's for God to judge.
Necromopea 3 years ago
Wow sexy girl
ddddd2731 3 years ago
Capital punishment should be cruel and unusual.
The medieval executions involved half-hanging, drawing the limbs from the joints with wagon horses, disembowelment and burning of the intestines in the sight of the victim, castration and finally beheading.
Another form of execution was turning the victim upside down and slowly sawing the victim in half from the crotch to the neck. The victim remained alive because gravity supplied blood to the brain.
That's a quick fix.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
I agree that the criminally insane should be institutionalized instead of imprisoned; executing the insane for murder is almost on the same lines of killing someone for introducing an infectious disease to a community (of course, the disease in this case would be one of the mind, not the body). We should be studying the causes and symptoms of the disease to treat future victims instead of all this slash and burn nonsense. Great video!
Inverdigris 3 years ago
What if it was your relative who was murdered?
Society recognises the instinct for payback among normal people. They need to see justice done and the person responsible to suffer.
We now know people who carried infectious disases did not do it maliciously and were not witches and did not deserve burning at the stake.
But we do know that people with a genetic predisposition to violence are not insane and consciously decide to commit their crimes.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
im studying the death penalty in my religious studies class. could you tell me all the names of the people you mentioned like Ted Bundy. Thanks. You would be helping me a lot. =) great points by the way. =D
AinsleyMwahxx 3 years ago
just go to a crime library site and look up serial killers
jerrylee76 3 years ago
I like u girl:) you really look into things and give great arguments...
runi8 3 years ago
OMG this not a politkal tv
dariosmit 3 years ago
Way too liberal viewpoint on crime. And the appeals process is insane. Society is more important the the individual criminal.
I will say this - should someone commit a major crime against me they would be well served to be in prison because I would devote all of my time to getting him or her into a woodchipper and the remains thrown into the ocean.
DetroitSux1 3 years ago
Well, I kinda beleive in the whole "eye for an eye" rule and I kinda don't. The example they're trying to set is flawed and makes no sense. This is a very confusing subject because yes it's wrong to kill but yet we do have overflowing prisons and what can we do with them? Therapy? Some people will never change...
scorpionsphynx 3 years ago
if they are going to kill them, why not do it in a way that allows their body parts and blood to be usable instead of filling it with poison!
tubofbologna 3 years ago
Wow . . . I thought I was the only person who felt that a homocidal person is a resource to be studied, not to be thrown out with the garbage. I think it makes more sense to learn what we can from them, and use that knowledge to *prevent* the next Jeffery Dahlmer or Kip Kinkel.
Very well spoken, my kudos. (Subscribing)
DionysusVoice 3 years ago
wow, u r an awesome speaker... i was always about capital punishment, solely on the emotion vengence... but what u say, it all makes sense... makes me think, maybe it is wrong...
cmetatud 3 years ago
The prisons are overflowing with lifers - what is immoral? The criminal's behavior or taking out the criminal and solving the problem? Capital punishment is good for society. Society should be more important than the individual. That is why America is in decline.
DetroitSux1 3 years ago
I believe right is right and wrong is wrong. My friend was murdered last year in michigan and we have the life sentence. I thought of this logically and with emotion and I believe this man should have to get the death penalty. This girl, my friend has never tried to hurt anyone or cause people pain, and this black man decided he wanted the truck she was in so bad that he had to kill her to get it.
all he had to do was pull her out of the truck and take off; but no he had to kill her.
tspraga 3 years ago
For future reference, please comment on capital punishment in regards to our society as a whole not just specific individuals or group of people. Just a thought.
jsdecena 3 years ago
I am generally opposed to the death penalty, but I admit there are times where I have thought that the punishment did fit the crime. That being said, there are valid concerns where capitol punishment is concerned, and speeding up the appeal process may not alleviate those concerns, rather it actually adds to them, largely due to the alarming number of people who are being released after decades of wrongful imprisonment, as I recall one case was resolved more than 20 years later. Just a thought.
dsly4425 3 years ago
you argue your point very effectively. I still believe capital punishment (killing people) has its place, but I don't feel like its a black and white issue.
jbirkey7 3 years ago
you are soo good at making a point
you should make a video on your life story. i'd be interesting.
jamisun1234 3 years ago 2
I love you, i seriously do! your points are so...i dont know the word...amazing maybe? and just Wow to your courage to stand up and say the things you do! I'd love to put my points across like you do! your an amazing person Krissie! Keep it up!
chissar 3 years ago
marry me!
sectryan 3 years ago
I luv ur videos...i agree with u totally on the issues of gay marriage/rights, capital punishment and animal testing. None of these issues are really relavent to me cos i live in europe (where we have laws as if you've created them!)....but its really interesting seeing these issues discussed from an American point of view
5LJ3A2 3 years ago
I enjoy a lot of your videos, for the fact that you're not some ignorant douchebag going around blabbing about some topic you know nothing about, it's good to see that some people still have a brain these days. Your insight on different topics has inspired me to learn more about what exactly I'm talking about in order to get a full view of what something is about.
Keep doing videos, they're quite entertaining to watch :)
xxkillxbarbie1xx 3 years ago
Krissie, you have it all wrong. There are some heinous murders that can only be remedied by capital punishment to assure no repetition and closure for the victim's family. How about showing some of that overflowing empathy for the victim. I think its great that your interested in the criminal mind, but your rationalizing what these sick thugs have done as if the reason for their behavior justifies it. Society is obligated to eliminate murderous behavior permanently when appropriate.
AgouraMo 3 years ago
Blaaaahhhhhh...It's a form of punishment. And people who willing make the choice to go out and kill an innocent person, well you know what there are consequences for your actions. SOOOO maybe people shouldn't stupid and kill innocent people in the first Place!!
Janaya14440 3 years ago
You can prevent the threat, or after it's created, get rid of it. Since society as a whole can't change, we need to change our forms punishment. Seems confusing I know, but it's hard to make it make sense, and keep it short.
teri83 3 years ago
I don't believe in killing people. However, I feel the punishment should fit the crime. The softer we've gotten on crimminals, the more people become crimminals. I don't believe these people should be re-released into society. Speaking of society, we need to be better parents so our children don't become mentally ill to the point that they want to kill. We should be nicer to each other and stop hurting each other. Some people get hurt, or broken to the point of no repair and become a threat.
teri83 3 years ago
I agree with you and Penn and Teller!This was the first discussion my class had for debate,and I'm surprised some were for it.For the "eye for and eye" arguement and to save tax money,all of which P&T said was BS.but in some,but small occasions for lethal injections,some did not get enough sodium theopenthal,and low enough levels to have been away the whole time.Those where did,may have suffered from extreme pain and suffication.
MonkeyOctober 3 years ago
However they're psychopaths just like murderers are, they are for the most part hopeless, and they are a threat to society. And so I take it upon my own ideas and my reasonings to kill off rapists. But naturally people would call me horrible or a monster because I am not authority, and I do not make the laws. Therefor I would not be on any level listened to. But what do you want a bet that people wouldn't even care if an authority figure decided it's okay? This is what I'm talking about here.
HyperBuu 3 years ago
Many would call you a monster but not all. People tend to think with their hearts rather than their heads. Just as those who would support you would mostly do it for emotional reasons. Laws should be based on reason and naturally mostly are.
For example many are against stem cell research, again for emotional reasons, even though it will be an invaluable remedy.
Itslvle 3 years ago
Further adding to that, what if I suddenly decided that it's best if I kill off all rapists I know of to clean up society, instead of simply turning them into an asylum? Sure, I am not authority, but authority is human as well, and they can make mistakes, and do wrong. Is authority any more right then I am in choosing whether someone lives or dies based on authorities ideas of what is best for the country as a whole? Naturally people would call me a monster for doing it.
HyperBuu 3 years ago
Even if we are saving money, that doesn't mean it's justified. Those who are wrongfully accused in a sense are being sacrifice for the countries overall financial situation, and they aren't even getting a say in the matter.
HyperBuu 3 years ago
Yeah but no matter how you play it, the money you put into something is always away from everything else. For example if we spend a lot of money saving someone here, with the same amount of money we could have saved many more in a poor country. Resources are scarce so we can never save everyone.
Itslvle 3 years ago
The problem with that argument is that who exactly are you saving? If your lobbying for death for each and every one of these individuals, then it's impossible to use it for that purpose, because these individuals you are speaking of will already be dead.
And, if as you say they are beyond reasonable hope, then there is no need to spend money on trying to save them. And again, the problem still lies in that there have been several people wrongfully accused.
HyperBuu 3 years ago
I think you were responding to my comment so here goes. I´m not sure what you´re trying to say with that first bit.
By saying "beyond reasonable hope" I mean those that anyone can tell are clearly f***ed up and there isn´t a shadow of a doubt whether or not they are guilty. So no, those wrongfully accused aren´t getting the axe. But again, if those people will spend the rest of their lives in jail we will effectively have taken their lives regardless.
Itslvle 3 years ago
Good points, but I can´t say I agree completely. I think the part about saving money is meant so that the money can be used to save people who we can still save, though in the real world the money wouldn´t all go to that purpose obviously.
Getting rid of those who are beyond reasonable hope is just common sense to me. Killing people isn´t the only way to take their lives away, imprisonment pretty much does the same thing. I don´t think a crappy life is really worth living.
Itslvle 3 years ago
True, paying for the in-prisonment of criminals is not good for society, but neither is the fact that there are also falsly accused people being sent to their deaths due to Captial Punishment. What do you say to their families? "Well, we wanted to save money."
My personal thoughts are that Capital Punishment doesn't exist, and also that life in prison sentences should only be for the individuals whose insanity is un-relenting. But of course, I am also for those individuals to be put in asylums
HyperBuu 3 years ago
Well done. I am against capital punishment, too. I don't see how sticking a needle in someone's arm is going to bring a victim back. Yes, that person might be guilty of whatever crime they committed, but I would rather lock them up and throw away the key instead of puting them on death row.
luminess1987 3 years ago
An Eye for an Eye, leaves everyone blind
Twightwee 3 years ago 3
Well spoken sister. You go girl.
fingustis 3 years ago
I think you need to get into the real world missy...
Northgrant 3 years ago
Can you elaborate on that please?
krissiespeaks 3 years ago
Sure. When someone kills someone else they lose all of their rights. They have taken away the now dead person's rights and thus they should not have any. At this point in time, money IS indeed more important and pressing than that piece of pond scum murderer. I don't want to feed murderers.
Northgrant 3 years ago
agree
travisoffbjh 3 years ago
Following criminals should only be able to receive the death sentence, murderers, pedophiles, rapists, mobsters, drug dealers, corrupt politicians, violent repeat-offenders, corrupt corporate scumbags, corrupt police officers, corrupt lawyers & dishonest high-profile journalists. Death through hanging as well, with sentences carried out within 72 hours. Repeat offenders of lesser crimes should be sterilized.
CSV1 3 years ago 2
Aside from the typical punishment and rehabilitation that comes with a prison sentence, I think that capital pushiment has a 100% success rate: those criminals who are executed never go out and commit any more crime. Can't get any more effective than that.
MottullMaelstrom 3 years ago
i think it was vary informative and befor i watch this video i wasnt sure where i stud with the death peantlty now i agrea with (you srry about any misspelings)
liveingtoletlive 3 years ago
This is overly simplistic
kegs666 3 years ago
i'm sorry.. but when a deviant individual takes the life of an innocent individual they do not deserve to live... yes it sounds harsh.. but I really don't see how jail-time can be looked at as a fair/justified form of punishment.
jamezzzzz 3 years ago
It's typical how the liberals are more upset about a scumball murderer getting what he/she deserves than they are about the loss of the victim.
noliberals123 4 years ago
Wow. You missed my entire point.
krissiespeaks 4 years ago
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Not really. I understand everything you said-however, I think your point of view is off. I have heard almost all of the anti-capital punishment arguments and ALL of them can be countered with intelligent statements. I have heard everything from deterrence to the death penalty actually increasing murder rates (HUH?). The entire argument is based on a person's point of view.
noliberals123 4 years ago
It is you that misses the point, Entirely. Statements such as "why do we kill people who kill" is cliche and shows no original thought (I've heard that little sound bite before from people who oppose the death penalty). What is the alternative? Lock up the killers in a nice coochie
overthehilltowin 4 years ago
How about bump them off so we no longer need to have them as a burden to anyone? The cliche, "why should we kill people to show that killing is wrong?" is inaccurate, because CP is not to SHOW anything, but to punish FOR a crime. Also, it is to punish for a certain type of killing, murder.
ma7799 3 years ago
Having emotional problems is not an excuse for murdering innocent people. Would you like to be murdered just because somebody hates women? If somebody attacks me, I would not be interested in who his mother or girlfriend was. It is not a difference for me. I don't mind suidicers. Let them do what they will.
It's killing other people (unless they are criminals), not killing oneself that I have a problem with.
syrop26 4 years ago
Indeed, I find it very disturbing that people like Krissie are seeking justifications for the murderer's actions. When a maniac kills innocent women, abolitionists will say, "Ah, he had a traumatic childhood". When a robber murders a store clerk, abolitionists will say, "Ah, he is a poor guy exploited by greedy capitalists". Having a "bad childhood" and being poor are not excuses for committing a murder. If someone is mentally sick, get some help. If someone is poor, get a damn job!
alisher1984 4 years ago
Essentially, you are trying to say that murderers are not in control of their actions. It might be true for mentally disturbed people (e.g. Jeffrey Dahmer). However, there are murders that are not motivated by mental disorders. People can murder for malicious purposes (e.g., robbery). What kind of excuses would you come up to justify their actions?
alisher1984 4 years ago 2
ma7799 well lock them up give them medical attention realise dem if they offend agen lock them up for a life sentence
twiki2099 4 years ago
What about child molestors? Do you think that scum that FORCE SEX ON HELPLESS CHILDREN should be preserved? We are talking taboo here! What about murder or rape of a senior citizen?
ma7799 4 years ago
ahh, ur so right again.
CarbonTuon 4 years ago
You have a lot of valid points...and for the most part, I agree with you...but sometimes, some people just deserve to die. Like Sadaam and Osama, and Hitler...I think THOSE people deserve to not live anymore...but other than that, I agree.
fruitikay 4 years ago
Hi Im stuart from Scotland I have just watched your video and completely agree with everything you speak of the terminoligy "hit the nail on the head" springs to mind I just hope that society can start to see the bigger picture.
p.s the lethal ingection procedure is quite often not done correctly when the victem is sussposed to be unconcious they are often merly unable to move but can feel everything aloth dont display any physical sings of pain .
bigstu265 4 years ago
Oh no! That is so horrible. The idea is not to worry whether or not they feel pain because they are dying. It is an execution; not an operation. Let's use the guillotine, since that ends it within a 70th of a second!
ma7799 4 years ago
yes, yes, yes,yes,yes.
CarbonTuon 4 years ago
Very good Video =)
shuhanmiah 4 years ago
I agree. If we could research why people are homicidal, we could find a cure or a way to reduce it. If we don't do that soon enough, then later it might be too late.
midnightlightthevamp 4 years ago
you are SO clever :)
LEVELLERGRL 4 years ago
Krissie, I've enjoyed your videos, and I think you're very smart. It's great to see someone posting videos with informed opinions, whether I agree with them or not. ;) Go edumacation!
vladsilvacce 4 years ago
I am sick of people using their faith to manipulate politics and criminal law. Religious people need to keep their beliefs to themselves!! They are violating my civil liberties of freedom and protection. The founding fathers clearly stated in the consitution that religion and government should be separate. The direction this country is heading is into self destruction.
Nimbostratus1111 4 years ago
You don't have clue what you are talking about. Appeals don't cost tax payers a fraction of the dollar amount of supporting these shit heads for life. Not to mention the new prisons that have to be built, the medical care they need and the higher education they are eligible to pursue. Were talking billions of dollars not the thousands for appeals you preach. Go get and education please.
Nimbostratus1111 4 years ago
Don't sugar coat it, tell me how you really feel. Seriously, you have a different opinion than I do, and I am educated. Maybe I don't have a little piece of paper saying that I'm worth it intellectually, but I speak of the facts I have learned. At least I know what tact is.
krissiespeaks 4 years ago
Girl you are so full of shit my computer screen reaks. It costs 60,000 a year to support these scum bags in prison. Several million for a life sentence. Fuck the appeal process...these guys were found guilty and sentenced to die...thus should be put to death immediately. These guys to give a damm about you or society and will kill again without remorse. You are nothing but an ingorant stupid child. Get your head out of your ass!!
Nimbostratus1111 4 years ago
Although appeals are part of the justice system, the process needs to be restricted and sped up. Give them 2 to 3 appeals, which may take about 3-4 years at the most and juice them. BTW, lethal injection costs $86.
ma7799 4 years ago
shut up girl!
I THINK ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY IS WORTH SOMEBODY'S LIFE!! all criminal's life by the way! their lifes have no value for me, oh, acctually they have a negative value! In a poor country, as most of the world r, a guy in jail costs the non-going to school of many children, whose parent's payed taxes r spent with a criminal who wouldn't think twice to kill a whole family to get a glass of water.
u said why u r againt n i said why i'm for it!
whilliamwithh 4 years ago
First, no right minded person murders. Something is off kilter. Two, despite that fact if the animal is rabid you MUST put it down. Such is the case with people. It's harsh I don't like to fathom the idea of killing a criminal. It may however be necessary.
Homie0static 4 years ago
i agree with you
genduy 4 years ago
If they kill,rape or torture my family then who gives a flying flip what they feel when they get the death penalty.
If its proven 100% that they were the person that did it,then they deserve what they get.If its not proven 100%(with DNA proof) then give em solitary confinement for life,with no option to get out for any reason.Unless its proven they were convicted falsely.
KernAshraven 4 years ago 2
My Gods... I think I´m in love
Fnertz 4 years ago
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Life in prison with its daily exposure to rape, brutality and confinement is not only truly cruel, but it is also very unusual punishment. The gentle, sterile injection of lethal drugs is the merciful, easy way out.
planetfall 4 years ago
dont for get ed gean dont know if that is spelled right
kharn1000 4 years ago
anyone claiming to be a true christian is not if they support the dp thou shalt not kill
sarasf78 4 years ago