Jessye was once trapped in swing doors and reportedly said (she didn't) when asked to slide sideways: "Honey, I ain't got no sideways." She sued CD Magazine for 3 million $ for reporting the story. She lost her trial in 1994. The judge concluded: "I could have wished that Miss Norman had told the hoary old joke as it would have shown that, in addition to possessing remarkable vocal and dramatic talents, she had an engaging sense of humour."
A great voice??? maybe but for me her personality gets in the way, it's just so damn false, her false english accent and her posing all the time in interviews is sickening, she really needs to go to a good shrink just to see if there is a real person within that body
@jamesjmertins: have you heard her Brahms lieder with Barenboim? They are lovely, rich, and subtle. Don't confuse the person with the singer...we all have various personae, and perhaps even you have one that is more likable than what we see here. Keep in mind she is used to being experienced from fifty rows (or five balconies) away, singing in any number of languages...of course her one-on-one projection will be a bit off.
@jamesjmertins Do you actually know her personally? And why should that matter? She is an extraordinary artist. What shows are you watching? I'd really like to see them if they are concerning her artistry because I like her. Otherwise I never watch any news news programs or read any magazines dealing with celebrities and their private lives.
@jamesjmertins Now listen here!!! You have NO GROUNDS to judge the lady! She speaks so many languages and, as an opera singer myself, that DOES affect one's approach to one's native tongue! So, unless you are an opera singer yourself, I do not expect you to understand that!
It is not Sorry wrong number - but scene from opera La Voix Humaine by novel of Jean Cocteau. Dear Operasine, you are not so big to ridicule Jessey Norman...and bee happy with 17639 wiev.sorry.
Conclusion of Juliette Buch's review of Norman's "Erwartung" and "Voix humaine" (2002):
"(...)force est de constater que sa prestation peu émouvante dans La Voix de Cocteau/Poulenc contribue à donner d'elle l'image d'une diva un peu inhumaine. "
"We must conclude that her less than moving performance in Poulenc/Cocteau's The Human Voice contributes to her image as a somewhat inhuman diva."
"If one were to quibble, the delicate nature, which the composer had in mind for the woman on the telephone in La Voix humaine, is not Miss Normans style. The original recording of this work, with soprano Denise Duval, and a new recording with Dame Felicity Lott, adheres to this idea."
... The review goes on to say her rendition is "big-boned" (code word for "pulled a boner").
"Jessye Norman est vêtue d'un grand kimono noir doublé de rouge et d'une robe noire soyeuse ; elle est belle, noble, hiératique, une fois de plus, et il est clair qu'elle n'a rien d'une victime, d'une femme défaite. Elle est trop royale, trop "diva", et d'emblée, le processus ne fonctionne pas (...). En un mot, sa santé vocale rend le personnage peu crédible."
Let me rephrase that in a simpler way even the unilingual snobbish chubby-chasers among you can understand:
It's not THAT she sings like a hyper-thyroidal walrus, it's WHAT she sings like a hyperthyroidal walrus. This piece of musical theatre was not written for her type of voice or personality (for lack of a better word).
I will simply repost the first intelligent comment that was censored by the ignorant fanqueens (by FABRIZIO82):
"This is ridiculous. Go and watch Denise Duval. Jessye is overacting. And overarticulating French too. I'm French and this is just kitsch. "
When Ms. Norman sings, it's not about the music or the words or the composer's intent. it's all about which his bigger: her ass or her ego. That is the only debate possible.
i dont think she is over-acting at all. in real life, most people act and look ridiculous when they are extremely emotional going through a breakup, and she looked pretty accurate to me of how most people feel and look when their emotions take control of them.
I actually like it, but agree with Jessye that phonesex is fundamentally frustrating and futile - especially when one of you speaks french, and the other speaks japanese. Try the chat rooms, gurl
wrong number indeed. i love jessye as much as the next queen but i'll take denise on this one, thanks.
i like above poster's: "remember people, its opera. by its very nature its overly dramatic." this is cocteau. poulenc. one woman on a phone on stage for forty minutes. come on. it's not overly dramatic and that's the point. it's real.
i'll have to check out that duval's video thing--is it actually video? cause i have the recording w/ prêtre...
The whole Denise Duval performance is available on the Internet by installing the VeohTV player (it's free) and searching for the "La Voix humaines" 40 minute video on veoh d ot c om .
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THIS is what Denise Duval sounds like in that aria: rcxPcDAh5Uw at 2:20. She is a middle-aged Parisian woman who has just broken up with a younger man. It calls for a certain physical type, a certain set of mannerisms, a certain accent, a certain refinement, a certain elegance, a certain modest exuberance. I will grant you, however, that Ms. Norman had the exuberance part down pat.
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And to think that another French-speaking poster was ostracized on this forum (1) for saying the same thing, (2) for being French-speaking and (3) for referring to Denise Duval's performance, makes me especially angry. You guys remind me of a faux-snob opera fan I knew who pronounced Puccinis's opera "Gianni Chichi", which happens to be a drag queen's name.
Seriously, folks. Norman is miles removed from the type of singer Poulenc - and Cocteau - had in mind for this part. She underlines everything and is incapable of understatement and subtlety. She is a Teutonic cow who sounds like a Spanish cow. If I was at the other end of that line, I'd cut my balls off after hanging up. She is scary. She is wrong. She is a freak show. She is a diva gone bad because no one in her posse dares tell her she is making a big mistake. And all her mistakes are BIG.
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Jessye, is that you? If it is, take it like a man, girl: You just did for contemporary French opera what the female hippopotamus ballerina did for classical ballet in Walt Disney's "Fantasia". And that ain't good.
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This is SO wrong on so many levels. Jessye Norman assassine toujours la langue française même quand elle est en forme et qu'elle ne chante pas trop lentement pour épuiser ses partenaires, alors imaginez quand elle chante seule et qu'elle décortique un texte de Cocteau tout en alourdissant Poulenc. Jessye Norman IS "la proverbiale vache espagnole".
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I don't think anyone who addresses another opera lover as "dude" knows enough about French opera or Poulenc to make an informed judgement. That was not a good performance. That was an elephant falling off a stage. The circus owner should be sued for cruelty to animals.
LOL, you know what, I'm going to let you live with that comment, but I got to confess, that was a kinda funny. I am actually a violinist, and recently started to listen to opera music. No, I mean recently as in a couple weeks ago. I wouldn't know if she was saying, go F*** your self somewhere. But I respect your opinion, but you didn't have to go that far with it.
remember people, its opera. by its very nature its overly dramatic. have you read the scripts or libretto. also they are usually playing to huge opera houses so what looks overly dramatic close up is actually just right. lastly with a voice like that, who cares.
OF COURSE che is overacting, that's why she is so loved: the larger-than-life-effect (which in this case can be taken quite literally)! i think it's great! and how she's made up with the afro-wig. wow. that's the great old tradition when opera divas used to look like drag queens or vice versa. who cares for plausibility and "realism" if this is so much more fun??
she is the most beautiful voice and te most perfect singer, she can make all that she want. She is the reason of my life of singer, because of her i'm singer thank's Jessye, long life!!!! I love you Jessye with all my sould and heart!!!! I love youuuuu!!!!!!
she's allways like this, it's her... it seems to be overacting beacuse other singers don't do it this way, so, it happens that if you're used to some way, and you see another way, you don't like the new one, at list, that happens to me...
yes I would totally agree its mos def and older style of acting which modern audiences dont really get much a taste for in post-stanislavky/meisner/adler acting world that we reside. People are looking for "appropriate" "realistic" responses to situations. But the idea of bursting into song for sometimes 4 hours straight or longer is implausible anyway! Suspension of disbelief. Theater is not real! Its inherently imaginary anyway so whats the deal? Brava Jessye!
Je suis moi-même français et je n'ai jamais eu de problème avec des chanteurs non-français ayant une prononciation imparfaite. Écoutez des français chanter en allemand ou en italien: leur prononciation est aussi parfois (souvent) exagérée. Faut tout de même faire preuve d'un peu d'ouverture d'esprit avant de juger... Pour ma part, J'ADORE JESSYE ! and I don't care si elle ne parle pas Vaugelas!
THANK YOU TRAZOM! Let's not forget that the singing voice when given the correct space and support in the body for this level of resonance will inevitably lead to acoustical modification of the vowels ANYHOW, regardless of how good their diction or technique is. Would you rather a person with great diction and a small, uninteresting voice? HELLO???
I'm French, too, and Jessye is the greatest!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately we no longer have good french singers.. All the words have to be understood from the heights of the theater. That's why Jessye is articulating the words.
Where did you get this from??? Miss Norman is amazing, as usual! If you have more of this performance or anything featuring Miss Norman, please upload!!
True story:
Jessye was once trapped in swing doors and reportedly said (she didn't) when asked to slide sideways: "Honey, I ain't got no sideways." She sued CD Magazine for 3 million $ for reporting the story. She lost her trial in 1994. The judge concluded: "I could have wished that Miss Norman had told the hoary old joke as it would have shown that, in addition to possessing remarkable vocal and dramatic talents, she had an engaging sense of humour."
Which, obviously, she doesn't.
baracine 1 year ago
What are the lyrics to this scene?
joshuathemusician 1 year ago
lmfao
selenagirl14 1 year ago
A great voice??? maybe but for me her personality gets in the way, it's just so damn false, her false english accent and her posing all the time in interviews is sickening, she really needs to go to a good shrink just to see if there is a real person within that body
jamesjmertins 1 year ago
@jamesjmertins: have you heard her Brahms lieder with Barenboim? They are lovely, rich, and subtle. Don't confuse the person with the singer...we all have various personae, and perhaps even you have one that is more likable than what we see here. Keep in mind she is used to being experienced from fifty rows (or five balconies) away, singing in any number of languages...of course her one-on-one projection will be a bit off.
xgianpatrick 1 year ago
@jamesjmertins Do you actually know her personally? And why should that matter? She is an extraordinary artist. What shows are you watching? I'd really like to see them if they are concerning her artistry because I like her. Otherwise I never watch any news news programs or read any magazines dealing with celebrities and their private lives.
eyesk8er 1 year ago
@jamesjmertins Now listen here!!! You have NO GROUNDS to judge the lady! She speaks so many languages and, as an opera singer myself, that DOES affect one's approach to one's native tongue! So, unless you are an opera singer yourself, I do not expect you to understand that!
godivapaw 7 months ago
Can this video please be renamed, just for the art's sake....
darkblue940 1 year ago 2
bravaaaaaaaaaaaaaa the best actress singer in the world
cantanteporsiempre 2 years ago
La Cieca, darling, wherever did you unearth this? Is the entire performance available anywhere?
tervito 2 years ago
Please let such triteness recede. Ms Norman is an extraordinary artist. Keep it simple and appreciate....your life will be that much better for it.
douglasjperry 2 years ago
bravo
teatrumuzical 2 years ago
It is not Sorry wrong number - but scene from opera La Voix Humaine by novel of Jean Cocteau. Dear Operasine, you are not so big to ridicule Jessey Norman...and bee happy with 17639 wiev.sorry.
M.
maldoror26 2 years ago
I must say I think all of the comments on Jessye's videos are rude. She has a unique voice and a fantastic one and has great characters.
However... I did almost lose my lungs laughing at "Hyper Thyroidal Walrus." Who even comes up with something like that?
At any rate... she really isn't that large. I don't think at all.
princeblondie 2 years ago 2
shut up baracine you sound like a racist so stop talking shit
maril193 2 years ago 2
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Top Ten Reasons why Jessye Norman should not sing that role:
3. It's called the "human" voice for a reason.
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baracine 2 years ago
You are an emotionally unstable soul, no wonder everyone on youtube tells you to shove off.
You rant and rave like a lunatic.
Speegs23 2 years ago
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Conclusion of Juliette Buch's review of Norman's "Erwartung" and "Voix humaine" (2002):
"(...)force est de constater que sa prestation peu émouvante dans La Voix de Cocteau/Poulenc contribue à donner d'elle l'image d'une diva un peu inhumaine. "
"We must conclude that her less than moving performance in Poulenc/Cocteau's The Human Voice contributes to her image as a somewhat inhuman diva."
For once, Norman didn't sue the author.
baracine 2 years ago
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Top Ten Reasons why Jessye Norman should not sing that role:
2. You don't inflate a party balloon with an H Bomb.
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baracine 2 years ago
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Top Ten Reasons why Jessye Norman should not sing that role:
1. When Cocteau wrote "La Voix Humaine", he wasn't exactly thinking of a trailer park shut-in.
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baracine 2 years ago
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From MusicWeb International's review:
"If one were to quibble, the delicate nature, which the composer had in mind for the woman on the telephone in La Voix humaine, is not Miss Normans style. The original recording of this work, with soprano Denise Duval, and a new recording with Dame Felicity Lott, adheres to this idea."
... The review goes on to say her rendition is "big-boned" (code word for "pulled a boner").
baracine 2 years ago
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From ForumOpera's review (by Juliette Buch):
"Jessye Norman est vêtue d'un grand kimono noir doublé de rouge et d'une robe noire soyeuse ; elle est belle, noble, hiératique, une fois de plus, et il est clair qu'elle n'a rien d'une victime, d'une femme défaite. Elle est trop royale, trop "diva", et d'emblée, le processus ne fonctionne pas (...). En un mot, sa santé vocale rend le personnage peu crédible."
Translation on demand.
baracine 2 years ago
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Let me rephrase that in a simpler way even the unilingual snobbish chubby-chasers among you can understand:
It's not THAT she sings like a hyper-thyroidal walrus, it's WHAT she sings like a hyperthyroidal walrus. This piece of musical theatre was not written for her type of voice or personality (for lack of a better word).
baracine 2 years ago
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"Oh, Ms. Norman, while you were on the phone, the Acme Awning Company called. They want the mumu back."
baracine 2 years ago
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Alternate title:
"Funeral March for a Circus Elephant"
Thank you for not posting the rest.
baracine 2 years ago
I will simply repost the first intelligent comment that was censored by the ignorant fanqueens (by FABRIZIO82):
"This is ridiculous. Go and watch Denise Duval. Jessye is overacting. And overarticulating French too. I'm French and this is just kitsch. "
When Ms. Norman sings, it's not about the music or the words or the composer's intent. it's all about which his bigger: her ass or her ego. That is the only debate possible.
bracine1 2 years ago
i dont think she is over-acting at all. in real life, most people act and look ridiculous when they are extremely emotional going through a breakup, and she looked pretty accurate to me of how most people feel and look when their emotions take control of them.
Puppyizzy 2 years ago 2
I actually like it, but agree with Jessye that phonesex is fundamentally frustrating and futile - especially when one of you speaks french, and the other speaks japanese. Try the chat rooms, gurl
NYCOF 2 years ago
u all r so cruel
jaibright 2 years ago
wrong number indeed. i love jessye as much as the next queen but i'll take denise on this one, thanks.
i like above poster's: "remember people, its opera. by its very nature its overly dramatic." this is cocteau. poulenc. one woman on a phone on stage for forty minutes. come on. it's not overly dramatic and that's the point. it's real.
i'll have to check out that duval's video thing--is it actually video? cause i have the recording w/ prêtre...
minirausch 3 years ago 2
The whole Denise Duval performance is available on the Internet by installing the VeohTV player (it's free) and searching for the "La Voix humaines" 40 minute video on veoh d ot c om .
baracine 3 years ago
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THIS is what Denise Duval sounds like in that aria: rcxPcDAh5Uw at 2:20. She is a middle-aged Parisian woman who has just broken up with a younger man. It calls for a certain physical type, a certain set of mannerisms, a certain accent, a certain refinement, a certain elegance, a certain modest exuberance. I will grant you, however, that Ms. Norman had the exuberance part down pat.
baracine 3 years ago
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And to think that another French-speaking poster was ostracized on this forum (1) for saying the same thing, (2) for being French-speaking and (3) for referring to Denise Duval's performance, makes me especially angry. You guys remind me of a faux-snob opera fan I knew who pronounced Puccinis's opera "Gianni Chichi", which happens to be a drag queen's name.
baracine 3 years ago
Ok its great and she acts well - but I dont get it (probably coz I dont speak french) LOL
MissLimLam 3 years ago
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There are lots of things you are missing by not understanding French, like how horrible and despicable this performance is.
baracine 3 years ago
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Just because Jessye Norman loves Poulenc, the reverse is not necessarily true.
baracine 3 years ago
OMG Just like Von Gluck Loves Handel!!!!!!!!
MissLimLam 3 years ago
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This is on the same camp level as Divine coming back from the grave to do "The Human Voice". Somebody have pity... Somebody remove this... Please!
baracine 3 years ago
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Seriously, folks. Norman is miles removed from the type of singer Poulenc - and Cocteau - had in mind for this part. She underlines everything and is incapable of understatement and subtlety. She is a Teutonic cow who sounds like a Spanish cow. If I was at the other end of that line, I'd cut my balls off after hanging up. She is scary. She is wrong. She is a freak show. She is a diva gone bad because no one in her posse dares tell her she is making a big mistake. And all her mistakes are BIG.
baracine 3 years ago
Oh, baracine, time to cut your balls..Bring me someting sharp.
cek1111 3 years ago
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Jessye, is that you? If it is, take it like a man, girl: You just did for contemporary French opera what the female hippopotamus ballerina did for classical ballet in Walt Disney's "Fantasia". And that ain't good.
baracine 3 years ago
OK I dont think she did do that badly but OMG go the hippopotamus!!!!!!!!!
LOL
MissLimLam 3 years ago
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This is SO wrong on so many levels. Jessye Norman assassine toujours la langue française même quand elle est en forme et qu'elle ne chante pas trop lentement pour épuiser ses partenaires, alors imaginez quand elle chante seule et qu'elle décortique un texte de Cocteau tout en alourdissant Poulenc. Jessye Norman IS "la proverbiale vache espagnole".
baracine 3 years ago
Dude, why are you so low, That was a good performance and if you dont think so, you certainly dont know what real voice music is.
Violinboyhere 3 years ago
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I don't think anyone who addresses another opera lover as "dude" knows enough about French opera or Poulenc to make an informed judgement. That was not a good performance. That was an elephant falling off a stage. The circus owner should be sued for cruelty to animals.
baracine 3 years ago
LOL, you know what, I'm going to let you live with that comment, but I got to confess, that was a kinda funny. I am actually a violinist, and recently started to listen to opera music. No, I mean recently as in a couple weeks ago. I wouldn't know if she was saying, go F*** your self somewhere. But I respect your opinion, but you didn't have to go that far with it.
Violinboyhere 3 years ago
I mean, girl, you got the wrong number! I'm dying laughing.
Nivri80 3 years ago
OMG.....I was told to study Jesse Norman...and I found this....Oh My sweet God...This is soul stirring......
Platynumlove 3 years ago 3
remember people, its opera. by its very nature its overly dramatic. have you read the scripts or libretto. also they are usually playing to huge opera houses so what looks overly dramatic close up is actually just right. lastly with a voice like that, who cares.
bigassbob1 3 years ago
OF COURSE che is overacting, that's why she is so loved: the larger-than-life-effect (which in this case can be taken quite literally)! i think it's great! and how she's made up with the afro-wig. wow. that's the great old tradition when opera divas used to look like drag queens or vice versa. who cares for plausibility and "realism" if this is so much more fun??
wwwoyzeck 4 years ago
she is the most beautiful voice and te most perfect singer, she can make all that she want. She is the reason of my life of singer, because of her i'm singer thank's Jessye, long life!!!! I love you Jessye with all my sould and heart!!!! I love youuuuu!!!!!!
demiurgoechevarria 4 years ago 4
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This is ridiculous. Go and watch Denise Duval.Jessye is overacting.And overarticulating french too. I'm french and this is just kitsch.
FABRIZIO82 4 years ago
that's because you're French... try Italy the next incarnation maybe you'll have some fun :P
venahemi 4 years ago
hahahahaha! LOL
141407078989 4 years ago
Well smell you, Miss Frenchie thang!
wotanman 4 years ago
she's allways like this, it's her... it seems to be overacting beacuse other singers don't do it this way, so, it happens that if you're used to some way, and you see another way, you don't like the new one, at list, that happens to me...
141407078989 4 years ago
yes I would totally agree its mos def and older style of acting which modern audiences dont really get much a taste for in post-stanislavky/meisner/adler acting world that we reside. People are looking for "appropriate" "realistic" responses to situations. But the idea of bursting into song for sometimes 4 hours straight or longer is implausible anyway! Suspension of disbelief. Theater is not real! Its inherently imaginary anyway so whats the deal? Brava Jessye!
Babs22h 3 years ago
Je suis moi-même français et je n'ai jamais eu de problème avec des chanteurs non-français ayant une prononciation imparfaite. Écoutez des français chanter en allemand ou en italien: leur prononciation est aussi parfois (souvent) exagérée. Faut tout de même faire preuve d'un peu d'ouverture d'esprit avant de juger... Pour ma part, J'ADORE JESSYE ! and I don't care si elle ne parle pas Vaugelas!
trazom69 4 years ago
THANK YOU TRAZOM! Let's not forget that the singing voice when given the correct space and support in the body for this level of resonance will inevitably lead to acoustical modification of the vowels ANYHOW, regardless of how good their diction or technique is. Would you rather a person with great diction and a small, uninteresting voice? HELLO???
wotanman 3 years ago 2
I TOTALLY agree. And seeing how well you speak of the art of singing, no doubts you are a musician!
trazom69 3 years ago
I'm French, too, and Jessye is the greatest!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately we no longer have good french singers.. All the words have to be understood from the heights of the theater. That's why Jessye is articulating the words.
ledormant 3 years ago
All I did was ask her if that hair was realle hers. No need to overreact, sheeesh!
wotanman 4 years ago
LOL
Liwah 4 years ago
Fantastic!!!!! Perfectly done.
lty2k84 4 years ago
HAAH!!!!
godivapaw 4 years ago
Jesus Christ I thought she was an angel... 666 stars ;)
venahemi 4 years ago
:-)))))))))))
anaminalwafdi 4 years ago
"Sorry, wrong number" LOL! That is funny! I could not stop laughing. 5 stars!
Nivri80 4 years ago
Where did you get this from??? Miss Norman is amazing, as usual! If you have more of this performance or anything featuring Miss Norman, please upload!!
primobasso 4 years ago 2
Thank you for posting that wonderful video, you have a lovely set of videos.
cashmerequeen 4 years ago