StarCraft 2 - SC582 - Root CatZ (Z) vs EG Axslav (P) on Metalopolis

[pklong88]

Man, this guy's skill is so sickkkk :D

Gotta find more of his replays now, so awesome!

And thanks for casting Crota <3

[murgurbo123]

axslav is abeast with those barriars

[SyzygyTT]

i love how you always say metal-OPolis :D

[Dronk1717]

a massive unit can destroy a ff :p

[Fiarzen]

there is no viable counter to forcefield :(

[TheCrazyAZNRedneck]

Zerg are plenty strong in the mid-late game, their problem is the first 8:00 of a game, as they're super vulnerable to various cheese and marine scv all-ins.

[Fiarzen]

@TheCrazyAZNRedneck protoss death balls of colossus sentry stalker own zerg in pretty much every way

[gregjs81]

Does anyone remember what #cast on Crota's channel the Axslav carrier madness happened? Saw it when it came out but want to see it again :)

[pepsi89]

axslav sounds like some condom brand

[lthnnpwr]

I got a boner off these forcefields.

[RodrigoSidney]

Axslav is a Protoss beast! My favorite Protoss player and, currently, SCII player!

[Dustsc2]

Incredible force field play. Very scary.

[lilbryce2006]

terran is op.

[frozenimran]

TERRAN IS NOT OP!!!! Im a toss player... TOSS ANd TERAN r perfect... zerg sucks period they need major buffs to queens, hydras and infestors

[GraveUypo]

@frozenimran tbh i think zerg need nothing short of a new unit to better counter siege units (colossus and siege tanks). those rape zerg too hard, sooooooo hard dealing with them...

[frozenimran]

@GraveUypo YOUR FUKIN RIGHT and good points. Collosus and siege tank counter for zerg would be nice. Ultras r to expensive and take to long to get out... REALLY listen to my idea. Infestors are suppose to be the counter to collosus and siege tanks... i think if infestors abilities used less mana and if neural parasite can be permanent would greatly help Zerg. I would like to see a new zerg unit though

[WinninGuy]

@GraveUypo Corruptors are excellent against corruptors and just don't engage tanks in seige mode. I do hate seiged tanks though.

[GraveUypo]

@WinninGuy they're great, but once the colossus are dead you have a 1500 min 1000 gas ball of uselessness and your ground army is much smaller than it could be. also they're not so great when they have to go over 20 stalkers to get to the colossi

[GraveUypo]

@GraveUypo also vikings are MUCH better and cheaper, and can land if needed in the ground. THEY are the ones who are great against colossus

[Mihomiti]

Forcefield macro? Hehe

[divineoblivion1]

@CaptFwiffo But that doesn't mean that the Terran is unbalanced, that is player error. I play Terran, and have lost a DT rush because I clicked on the wrong thing in one instant. That doesn't mean protoss is OPed.

[sor3999]

Owned!

[samnelso]

LOL and people say Terran is OP versus Zerg...

[divineoblivion1]

@samnelso amen!

[GW33DZ]

axlav didn't completely dominate Catz, Catz went for an extremely early gold expo which he knew would be tough to defend if scouted. He put a lot minerals into that expo and into droning, it was a very risky move that didn't pay off because he got scouted and axlav reacted accordingly (by pushing and taking out the expo, crippling catz). I expect to see games that seem more even between these two, i don't think axlav will always dominate.

[herodragon33]

bless you

[leksious]

withf ff´s toss can run over a zerg army twice as big. Sentry should be a support unit but it also has decent dps so no complaints about it being weak of 1v1.. it should never be alone. Using ff´s doesnt really take apm or micro much.. been there done that. Teching up ultras just to mow down them takes too long time and minerals now.

[17arkrage]

Terran aint OP, ppl r just sick of MMM

[TwinBladeFury]

When I saw this I got excited that it might be the finals to the Machinima Realm invitational... How long ago did it happen? Seems like I missed it completely.

[Chzrm3]

Some people are saying that Axslav just dominated his opponent - I think that's kind of an unfair assessment. Don't forget, catz invested a lot into that gold expansion, and he lost it in about two minutes. Because of his power droning, he didn't have a strong standing army, and when all those drones were wiped out he had nothing to show for it.

That said, axslav's micro is INSANE and really impressive, and I'm looking forward to seeing more of him.

[realwxr]

wow I want to see a game that Axslav gets owned so bad

[xsteal]

complete domination. some players are just advancing to a whole new level.

[ripley999]

catz should be doing his queen build - day9 ftw

[gassnake]

Protoss may be OP/imbalanced vs zerg, but in this case, axslav truly outplayed catz.

[NeoLearner]

Hydra's off creep are really sitting ducks...

Was surprised to see excess chrono boost energy on Axlav's nexus... He won in a pretty dominating fashion, even without chrono'ing his void rays or collosi. gg wp

[NeoLearner]

Hydra's without creep are really sitting ducks...

Was surprised to see a surplus of chrono boost energy on Axlav's nexus...

[stretch90]

If you wanna talk about being OP I'd say PvZ is definitely screwed up. Sentry's ff just mess up zerg armies so easily

[SuperHeroR]

Are Banelings even cost-effective versus Protoss? Zerg players, please explain if they do.

[PenCrisis]

@SuperHeroR

They're good only against the sentries and zealots. Which is a significant portion of a toss army. I believe Artosis mentioning that zergs in Korea love to carpet bomb tosses.

[fanathym]

CatZ wasn't as good as usually in this game. He lost way too many overlords and didn't move back when forcefields were up/ the battle was already lost before it began two times..

[DevilsTreasure]

Wow.. that was some impressive play from Axslav... there were several fights he should have lost but FF saved the day

[ProVODs]

Wait protoss can get Hydras?? Awesome xD

[blackshilen]

Wow, I've never realize before watching Crota's cast that Axslav is so damn good. O_o

[doctacular]

Crota you are doing an awesome job bro keep it up! 

[bygone44]

forcefield is seriously a joke, completely nullifies anything that is on the ground, makes weak armies strong and strong armies unstoppable

[mcspikesky]

@bygone44 w/o forcefield protss gets steam rolled. I think theres should be some way to take them down other than massive units though. also, they are limited. once there are no more forcefields sentries get roflstomped by anything.

[Essohress]

i hate forcefields^^ as zergs and a bit with terran, but i love them with protoss!^^

[kruuemmel]

crota you got the perfect caster voice :)

[fsto89]

T isnt op, they just have the most viable paths and thus build options...

[addiktion13]

@fsto89 Yeah I'd say they certainly have the most effective harassment units in the game. They also work extremely well in small numbers or larger numbers. Mules are also pimp equally 25-30 probes on minerals in the late game. Plus the remaining flying command center can certainly win some games.

[TheBlackiwid]

really good protos player, but if you have such good player with op protos units zerg can do nothing against it. Its impossible to win, you build 3-4 sentrys and you can through thausends of forcefields, so I guess the energy gain should be half that fast, that zerg has some change to get some male attack off. why does protos at all become a such cheap tier 1 energie based unit, the zealots that kill zerglings like hell and op stalkers are not good enough?

[MikaTamni]

Crota T vs Z are the most interesting games, don't worry about shoutcasting too many of them.

[kristiadi7]

still waiting for another axslav's fleet of carriers :D

[ShadowDatsas]

Hey crota is this Axslav the one from warcraft 3? The guy that always picked random and made some crazy strategys?

[Cyrus1932]

@ShadowDatsas yes he is!

[77Karolis77]

haha cats :D

[Wasserleiche88]

why would you get banelings against toss with sentries? just a complete waste...

[Drvelasco45]

@Wasserleiche88 yeah... roach/hydra made more sense to me

[bygone44]

@Wasserleiche88 you realize the toss ground force was zealot sentry, banelings happen to be good vs both. all it takes is 1 mis placed forcefield and all ur sentries are gone

[Kayokak]

This man... HE'S A BEAST

[chocomaro]

people shouldn't make comments about OP matchups from a mere few games when thousands and thousands played by top players constantly prove there's much more than that.

about forcefields, if you played protoss then you know how crucial it is to defend the sentries from being mowed down in close range

[KnightOfAmarCostume]

"Balanced" - This is the answer of Kiwikaki that he gave to a zerg that asked to mr.Kiwi : " What do you think about force fields?"

I agree with Kiwikaki :D

[WarrenEdwardBuffet]

Guys, I found this by chance and I have no idea if this is his real account but you can go to livestream [dot] com / jinro

[A4moondoggy]

good ff's but games like this are really starting to make me question the balance of zvp

[Necromas]

Force fields make me :(

[kb27787]

that was some sick sentry usage! (srsly shielding themselves in pockets against lingling) that was brilliant. If he attacked that high yield 2 mins later he would've lost...

[lifeofasalesman01]

sentries are just ridiculous... i mean, i dont wanna cry imba, but when a move like force field makes you (no matter your skill level) completely depend on the skill level of your OPPONENTS force fields, it gets a little ridiculous...its like you're at the mercy of the skill level of the sentry user, and thats not right.

[YodSamechLamed]

I don't think terran are OP, I think that tey have the easiest to execute builds.

Banshhes (amazing with skill, without can still do damage)

MMM (Skill? NO!)

And then there are the random 4v4 builds like mass BC or Vikes, which I just laugh at and darken the skies with spire units...

[2uneek]

axslav forcefield is beyond jaw dropping :O

[pieroog]

zerg underpowered? first of all zerg was too greedy - 3 bases vs 1 at 4min mark? too much econ, too little army - a simple thing

[CurtisSpiers]

lol, only a noob would say banshees are too strong, there's lots of counters to them and they're a big investment in tech considering they're pretty much useless if the opponent has detection.

[mbeck1986]

Show Crota love hit the like button!! Crota <3

[SasukeNathan]

Ya I hate banshees

[GoodStarfish]

I seriously hate sentries. soooooo OP

[CurtisSpiers]

@GoodStarfish Axslav is OP you mean

[TVJ3W]

6th



[Dez88Bryant]

Zerg is not underpowred

[ParkKingLot]

I don't think T or P is OP. I think zerg is UP

[StrayVice]

terran is a little over powered they just have so many options plus banshees are ridiculouslystrong. love you crota

[XBLschannel]

Love you Crota! Keep casting but try to Get some PvT in the GSL maps (: