May Berkeley continue to hire quality bombing math professors ... sadly the only liberal news-worthy one-man act of violence I can think of is affiliated with Berkeley. Sorry.
I'm offended by pompous stuffed suits tearing down all religions because a FEW are currently misbehaving. And because it is a hot button topic I'm guessing his books sell well and I'm guessing he has never donated to support an end to the problems in foreign countries he describes while Christians continue to go on missions to heal the sick in said dangerous parts of the world. Dumb Christians, risking lives (that's how crazy they are) when Dawkins could donate or make a speech and solve all.
I'd have to take issue with Dawkins' comments near the end of the clip that there was no logical path for atheists leading to such atrocious acts. How then does he explain all of the atrocities that have been committed by atheist communists at times over the past century? I think that Dawkins needs to rethink that comment a bit.
@crucisnh I understand your point, and I may be wrong about this, but I think that the communists you mentioned did not perpetrate their crimes in the name of atheism, but in the name of communism
@bloodynoise666 I suggest listening to about the final 30 seconds of this clip. Dawkins doesn't exactly say that it's necessarily in the name of the faith. I'd also counter that Hitler, supposedly a Catholic, hardly committed his atrocities in the name of Catholicism either.
@crucisnh you're right. I will also say that is not very clear what point does Dawkins really want to emphasize, and that weakens his whole speech. I generally agree with him. But he made things over complicated in this one, talking about how religious people sometimes do things because of this and sometimes because of that, and that "there is no such logical pathway leading from atheism to any such atrocius act" (which does not imply that atheist people perform such acts anyway)
Friend animal does not adopt behavior but they have all the distinguish information in their Jean. For example if you take an egg of eagle and take away from her in laboratory. The born Chick away from her mother in laboratory would never adopt human behavior but still it would be complete eagle and would hunt like eagle, would fly like eagle and would behave like eagle. Because not by natural selection or surrounding influence but by information and Knowledge which they have in their Jean or D
Problem is that they Atheist deny God because of an experience of evil by religious people, suffering, natural disasters etc. But does such painful situation in human life disproof God ? I don't think so. Religious people can be wrong, you can complain or angry with God because of suffering in this world. But it does not mean He is not there, not exist and not created this world. I don't have answer why suffering are in this world. But I know there is a hope after this suffering. Just like a pr
@realtyofislam Okay, why would this all-loving "god" create suffering , in the first place?
Why would God build the "perfect place" for life, only for it to die and go to the "perfect place"? What's the point in living, if you're religious? All you have to do is off yourself and go to Heaven, right? Oh wait, that's in, right? So, really God isn't giving you ANY signs that this place even EXISTS. That's all faith is: believing in something that's not there.
Yes, exactly I am asking this from all Atheists. Why Elephant knows to care for it's young ? Information and Knowledge which all creatures have in their DNA, how and where they came in them ? Who taught little ant to march in line, build their mound, knows their queen, store food before monsoon etc. Information in creation it self proofs that some one designed the wonderful creation. By seeing a car or computer you can not say they exist without cause and without designer.
@realtyofislam All life has the innate responsibility to uphold their SURVIVAL. Remember "survival of the fittest?" Animals adapt to certain behaviors true INSTINCT. You will flinch when something lashes at you.
ID theorists are always giving the misnomer 'information' to 'instinct'
It's in our genes to be a certain way. And asking such a question is pointless, otherwise, life wouldn't exist. Even a predator doesn't ALWAYS hunt the prey. We, life, know how to live. We don't need strings.
Turn over a US Dollar Bill. See that "all seeing eye" as the capstone on the Pyramid? That is the all seeing eye of Horus/Lucifer and at the base of that Pyramid are Latin words that translate to a New World Order. The Illuminati are so heavily documented a 5th grader writing their first research paper could easily write a factual report. Illuminati have a name for the mind-controlled brain dead, sheeple. Laugh it up funny boy cause your ass is on their menu with mint jelly.
DNA does not think, does not care, does not love, does not hope, does not intellectual response. DNA just exist in human body and by study of DNA you can get some information about that particular creature. But what about care, love, guilt, morality, Knowledge, dream, imagination, words, languages ? Who such things came in existence in human life ?
@realtyofislam Is that a rhetorical question? Wouldn't you rather be curious, than make something up like a God? What religion is an elephant that cares for its young, or even another elephant in its group? Have you read enough of the quar'an to know if your natural morals agree with what you read. Science is slowly answering questions, while religion has made assertions. The natural world is a wonderful thing, you should come inside and try it out.
@doctorpurple Thank god your okay, implies the person thought I was a goner, and that it wasn't my ingenuity that saved me, because I'm to dumb for that, it had to be a supernatural power
(i dont actually get insulted, i just wanted to bring the point up :L)
On the US dollar, can you locate an "all seeing eye" represented as a pyramid capstone? At the base of the pyramid, can you find Latin words which translate to a New World Order? Illuminati symbolism, so easily documented a 5th grade elementary student writing first research paper, could easily write a factual report. Illuminati have a special label for mind-controlled brain dead, sheeple. Laugh it up class, your ass is featured on their menu with mint jelly.
Fact - Adam Smith, deliberately used the metaphor "Invisible Hand" as synonymous with God.
If Adam Smith, had used the word God instead of the metaphor "Invisble Hand", we'd be asking who was Adam Smith, but the Principle of Self Interest, Laws of Supply & Demand and the "Invisible Hand"/God would all still exist.
An Inability To Understand, A Sworn Oath to God & Country, Does Not Disarm Or Deter The Lethal Duty To Defend God's US Constitution. You Who Attack God, Who Attack Countries & Who Attack Humanity, You Are The Enemy. Enemies Of God, Are Enemies Of Those Sworn To Protect God, Country, Constitution & Humanity.
All Men Are Created Equal, With Certain Inalienable Rights, Endowed By Our Creator. As Goes God, So Goes Freedom, Liberty & Justice For All.
Turn over a US Dollar Bill. See that "all seeing eye" as the capstone on the Pyramid? That is the all seeing eye of Horus/Lucifer and at the base of that Pyramid are Latin words that translate to a New World Order. The Illuminati are so easily documented a 5th grader writing their first research paper could easily write a factual report. Illuminati have a name for the mind-controlled brain dead, sheeple. Laugh it up funny boys because your ass is on their menu with mint jelly.
Fundamental Logic 101. A commitment to the truth (only sane choice), inherently expands to include all possibilities. Arbitrary dismissal of a possibility, breaches that commitment as a fatal logic error, proving themselves fundamentally insane liars & frauds. When Atheist/Satanists dismiss God as a possibility, they breach their commitment to the truth, resulting in the mindfucked insanity to argue justifying a lie, is rational behavior.
You are making a mistake. You can not argue with a religious person. Religion is a mental illness. The religious deal with anxiety by believing in a giant all powerful father in the sky who protects them. They obsess over behaviors like having to wear special hats, or say certain words in order to appease this ever-watchful disciplinarian. That is simply a cross between OCD, delusion and paranoia. For example try defining delusion, now try and distinguish between that and the belief in God.
Thank you very much for calling me an "Idiot". You have proofed by your word that man need God for morality. Without God you can not be a good person. I am moral and loving nature person. But you have already exposed your anger and hatred heart. I was not God believing person but after increasing immorality in this world specially after increasing number of Atheist. I started to think, there must be some connection between good heart and God. Thanks for helping in my Faith.
@realtyofislam I'm sorry you're so butthurt over a simple word. There's nothing immoral about pointing out when someone is spreading lies and misinformation and being ignorant. This is a typical behaviour of an IDIOT.
@realtyofislam Mankind absolutely does not need god for morality. What do you consider morality based on god, stoning people to death for adultery, death for apostasy. Any god who supports this is and in his name would allow genocide and slavery is not good or moral. There is no good reason or in fact any evidence to support the existence of a god so why on earth would you believe in one?
Foolish man ever lived on this planet. By the way, FOOL says in his heart, there is no God. If Following Christ is delusion then believing that man ancestors are monkey are much bigger delusion because evolutionist don't have scientific evidence except "hope and belief" which is also no different as believing in unseen, unproofed God. At least believing in God is much better delusion than believing man belong from monkey.
@realtyofislam There is so much evidence to support the theory of evolution, just read basic biology text book or go to a museum and you will see it. The existence of a god on the other hand is completely and utterly unsupported by any evidence. Why is it a better delusion to believe in god, your stuck in a totalitarian regime in which you simply deny any piece of evidence that supports evolution. The rising number of atheists is the best thing that could happen to the human race.
I want to put Dawkins inside a bullet proof glass box, i get so worried about him...there are crazies *ahemMuslimsahem* out there who would try to harm him for his views
I'm offended by the unemployment. It all started when someone finally believed in something, did something and the rest became unemployed. Lets all stop working, because unemployment is wrong! Hawkins do something about unemployment. Believe - action - result. Lets all stop believing in something.
With Dawkings his motivation all entrepreneurship should be forbidden. Because you have unemployment and that all started when someone finally believed in something. Believes - action - result. Than you care for something and want to protect that something. Now.. the Bible says "thou shal not kill". While the quran contains Jihadist writings, elements of violence. When Dawkins says religion causes war, he's generalising. Second most war are faught because of oil. Does Dawkings use transport??
@Brulluhman The Christian doctrine was spread on rivers of blood; the Qur'an isn't half as violent as the Bible; which condones slavery, murder, genocide, and even sanctions rape. When Dawkins said 'religion causes war' he should have been more specific; monotheistic religions of the Abrahamic tradition cause war. Don't fool yourself into thinking the mass media drivel of 'war for oil' and this infantile notion of single causality.
@RebelWrestler45 The Christian religion has not been spread on rivers of blood. One of the reasons, is that Christians celebrate Christmas. Christians never celebrated the birth of Christ. With the introduction of Christianity, it was easier to celebrate solstice with the pegan religious. Christianity took over the old European culture. The Catholic church their influance didn't end because of Atheism, by Protestants. Luther and Calvijn.
@Brulluhman The Holy Roman Empire spread Christianity across Europe through slaughter; don't even make me reference the crusades. Christmas is nothing more than the Christian plagiarization of the heathen festival of Saturnalia, interlaced with Germanic traditions of the winter solstice. Christianity was spread by the sword even more expansively than Islam.
@Brulluhman The Holy Roman Empire spread Christianity across Europe through slaughter; don't even make me reference the crusades. Christmas is nothing more than the Christian plagiarization of the heathen festival of Saturnalia, interlaced with Germanic traditions of the winter solstice. Christianity was spread by the sword even more expansively than Islam.
@Brulluhman The Holy Roman Empire spread Christianity across Europe through slaughter; don't even make me reference the crusades. Christmas is nothing more than the Christian plagiarization of the heathen festival of Saturnalia, interlaced with Germanic traditions of the winter solstice. Christianity was spread by the sword even more expansively than Islam was.
@Brulluhman You do understand the logical fallacy you are committing here, right? Not only is this an attribution error but it is a pathetic appeal to authority. Secular humanism and even Empiricism were instantiated by religious people............during a scientifically ignorant and incredibly superstitious time.
@RebelWrestler45 I believe our western culture is based on Judaism/Christianity (North European part Protestant/ South European part Catholic)/Modern Humanism (invented by a raised Catholic with Christian vision) and old Greek philosophical norms and values. Atheism on the other hand believes in nothing. Believe - action - result. They harp a lot (nothing to offer), while other cultures are taking over.
@Brulluhman Our western culture is intertwined with Christian tradition, but it certainly is not based on the Judeo Christian heritage. Here is where you are going wrong; unlike religion, Atheism is not an ideology, it is not a belief system, it is the singular rejection of the claim that a deity exists. That is all. Furthermore, only the ignorant derive their beliefs from bronze age mythology; the wise seek out truth through empirical examination of the evidence.
@Brulluhman Atheism is the rejection of the claim that a god exists, based on insufficient (or non existent) evidence. The burden of proof lies with YOU. It is impossible to prove that god does not exist; because the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. In the same manner, it is impossible to prove that leprechauns, alien manned UFO's, unicorns, and the flying purple penis monster from Mars don't exist. What proof and evidence do you have to say don't have a 12 inch penis?
@RebelWrestler45 I'm not going to show you. For the rest that's the same motivation you can use against every entrepreneur in the world. Believe - action - result. For Christians God is Love. When we want a lovely world, people should start believe in God.
@Brulluhman Yes, beliefs inform action, DUH. Every individual has beliefs, ALL Atheists have beliefs. The difference is that religious individuals have unjustified, irrational beliefs based on mythology whilst atheists inform their beliefs through empiricism. When we want a lovely world, we will honor religion as a part of our culture and heritage, yet recognize it as the mythology and ignorant ramblings of our backwards, superstitious, uninformed ancestors.
@RebelWrestler45 "The difference is that religious individuals have unjustified, irrational beliefs based on mythology.."
Where's the proof and evidence of Atheism is accurate and correct? At least the Bible shows prophecies that have been fulfilled. Seems like you giving yourself some big applause to early. Atheism is something like... thinking everythings comes out of a shadow. When you find the end of it.. let me know.
@Brulluhman what? that question makes no sense. there is no doctrine or dogma to be considered accurate or correct...atheism isnt a belief system to prove...what is your question exactly?
@doctorpurple Atheism means you don't believe in a God or more gods. Theism means you do. Atheism is a believe, because there's no proof or evidence that Atheism is accurate and correct. You say there's not, I say.. I feel otherwise and believe there is, but non of us can proof it. But.. when you want proof, you need to believe first, while Atheists like to see the proof first. I see Love as something that is abstract.
@Brulluhman "Atheism is a believe" Bullshit. Theists make positive claims towards the existence of X. They failed to provide evidence, but still claim X to exist. That's why faith is a delusion.
Atheism cuts though all this crap. That's why atheism is the default position.
@TomFynn I rather call it an abstract truth within the reach of mankind. When Atheism cuts though all this "crap" as you call it, where's the proof and evidence of that? Would you claim that there's nothing and everything exists out of there?
@TomFynn When someone talkes about origin and claims that everything comes out of nothing, it's simply not possible. There can't be 'something' without 'nothing'. Like when you've got white, you've also got black. Employment and unemployment. Before someone finally started to do something. The word 'employment' didn't exist and also the word 'unemployment' didn't exist. After someone did something, the words employed and unemployed started to exist. Both exist and not at the same time
@TomFynn I prefer particle - other or nonparticle. Because the existing of one, does excludes something else, but does not per definition has to be anti.
And this point you clearly want to stress SO badly, as evidence for your particular god. But then ... when somebody says to you : "That must then apply to your god as well, because, as you claim, something cannot be without nothing", you backtrack : "Nonononono, MY god is exempt, he's BEYOND the universe". In other words, the very rule you set down as evidence, you immediately break for your own explanation. Fallacy argument, nothing more, heard and debunked over and over
@Brulluhman absolutely incorrect. i dont "believe in" a god, whatever that means. if you ask "is there a god?" or "does god exist?", then my answer would simply be "i have no idea." if your question is "do you think an arbitrarily decided-upon god cares about humankind?" my answer, with evidence to back it up, would be "no".
now, ill ask again, what "belief" in atheism do i think is accurate or correct? considering that there is no structure, dogma or scripture btw,
@doctorpurple Than your not an Atheïst but you do know that your life is sacret. With you, so does everyone else think thatway. What makes the difference? That's believe.
@Brulluhman no, youre twisting my words, while failing to spell yours. I am an atheist as i dont believe in god, i dont have faith, and i have no reason to believe god exists. that does not mean i have a positive belief that there is NO god. the two are not the same. also, i do not belief my life is "sacret", which i can only assume should have been "sacred".
so, once more, i ask you what "beliefs" do atheists share? if you fail to address, i can only assume youre trolling.
@doctorpurple Atheists believe that there is no God. That's the believe they share. You wrote that you would say "I have no idea". That means your an Agnost.
@Brulluhman I disagree. I am "without god". I do not believe there is one. But I will never make the positive claim, because I am not a moron. Please, focus on one point; namely, what exactly do Atheists have to prove?
@TheMajorpickle01 I don't know why you'd find it insulting. I do find it to be the height of intellectual laziness to have blind faith, and find it worse when people lie about there being "evidence" to support the existence of god...so maybe I can agree that it'd be insulting to your intelligence. But there's no reason to be personally insulted by bronze-age traditions.
@Brulluhman "Atheists believe that there is no God." Bullshit. Atheists state that the evidence necessary to even consider that the idea of the existence of God is to be given any merit is zip, zilch, zero, nada.
Therefore the only logical statement is "God does not exist".
@Brulluhman That doesn't even make grammatical sense, and you once again are committing yet another red herring fallacy; and the ideals of the Kim regime in North Korea are the antithesis of Atheism. The Kim family is thought to be supernatural; there is a reason that Kim Il Sung is the eternal leader of North Korea; North Korea has a de jure state religion. Ignorance is not a virtue my friend, think for yourself, do some better research.
@RebelWrestler45 That's the result of Atheism, North Korea culture. Most people are spiritual. There are 500 million Atheists on earth. Next thing is look at human itself. When you look in the mirror you might see some canine teeth. What sort is human. Preditor. Strong hang for hierarchy. What does that tell about political movements. People chose a leader. When religion is forbidden and most people are spiritual, what's the next thing?? North Korea.
@Brulluhman No, it isn't. There is no such thing as 'spiritual' because nobody can substantiate the existence of a 'spirit'. When religion is subverted by science and empiricism we get Japan, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway; which according to the Global Peace Index are the safest places to live. Across the board, without exception, when economic health is equal and a country is more secular, it is more peaceful. Again, North Korean ideology is the antithesis of Atheism.
@RebelWrestler45 By the way, Atheists never ended the power of the catholic church. Protestants did. Luther and Calvijn. Calvinism also made capitalism work, not Atheism. Atheism never caused anything, but.. some other cultures getting involved in Europe.
@Brulluhman Now we break out the straw man fallacy, you are beyond stupid. Anyways, capitalism made capitalism work. Once again, I repeat, I repeat, Atheism is not an ideology or belief system; it can prevent irrational action and beliefs, but it cannot cause action or form an individual's ideology or moral compass; that is where empiricism comes in.
I really didnt like the way he only pointed out female circumcision as though male circumcision is ok. Both are downright disgusting, immoral and evil!
Panic now permeates the incessant squawk of these Satanic Nazi Buzzards. Gone are the days of preening, standing a preponderance of bullshit. Smirking Satanic Shills, scheduled to squawk 24/7. Part of a highly organized gaggle engaged in a criminal attack against God, Country, Constitution, and Humanity. As goes God, so goes Freedom, Liberty & Justice For All. Replaced by a Nazi New World Order, envisioned as a Supreme Satanic Buzzard, with dictatorial authority over brain dead sheeple.
Fact - Adam Smith, deliberately used the metaphor "Invisible Hand" as synonymous with God.
If Adam Smith, had used the word God instead of the metaphor "Invisble Hand", we'd be asking who was Adam Smith, but the Principle of Self Interest, Laws of Supply & Demand and the "Invisible Hand" who created it all, would still exist.
In spite of not being able to see or touch the human mind, most everyone would vehemently argue the human mind does exist & that they have one. Followed by, imbeciles who use their invisible mind, to argue God does not exist, because they can not see or touch Him. We are a created being with several senses. We were granted free will to choose subject to the Principle of Self Interest, which is the engine of life for all living things. Safe to assume, God expected we would use our mind to think.
@ShawnSwander atheists don't give up their money? Besides the millions of regular people who give to charity (did you see the Reddit r/atheism during the holiday season?), the perfect example to prove you wrong would be Bill Gates, who has already donated almost half of his net worth and has saved an estimated 58 million lives, 7.2 million of those being children under the age of 5. Why? Because he believes in humanity, nothing more, nothing less.
@raulsnchez There are plenty of atheists who do incredible things for people, completely altruistically. Please do your research before assuming that atheists are bad people. All over the world, people use religion as an excuse for atrocities, in "the name of God"
I assume that most of the 472 dislikes on this video are from religious people. Why did you thumb down this video? Everything he said in here was truth, outside of the few opinions he listed at the beginning of the video. Will you turn a blind eye to truth if it bashes on or clashes against your religion?
Anyone who believes in God should be offended when someone acts evangelist for unproven scientific theories that don't even meet the scientific criteria for a theory (fallibility). Evolution is full of misleading terms and is taught incorrectly and incompletely from a very young age. Please don't take my word for it but do your own unbiased research and be thorough.
It certainly has more to back it up than "An imaginary man in the sky got creative one day and decided to create all of this from nothing very quickly. A couple thousand years later when it was clear that his beloved humans were dying all over the world from starvation before their second birthdays while others were rolling along in their Bentleys, he just turned a blind eye."
@ShawnSwander How is Evolution full of misleading terms? Read a proper book on evolution, it will be full of scientific terms.
Actually, first, get a basic understanding of science and its terminology, then read a proper book. Most books are dumbed down because the vast majority of humankind are morons who need everything to be spoonfed to them, such as you.
@ShawnSwander How is Evolution full of misleading terms? Read a proper book on evolution, it will be full of scientific terms.
Actually, first, get a basic understanding of science and its terminology, then read a proper book. Most books are dumbed down because the vast majority of humankind are morons who need everything to be spoonfed to them, such as you.
@ShawnSwander How is Evolution full of misleading terms? Read a proper book on evolution, it will be full of scientific terms.
Actually, first, get a basic understanding of science and its terminology, then read a proper book. Most books are dumbed down because the vast majority of humankind are morons who need everything to be spoonfed to them, such as you.
Wow abusing children and stoning people sure is wrong and its caused by religion and Absolutely Doesn't Have Anything To Do With Extreme Economic Inequality That Definitely Isn't Fueled AT ALL By The Way People Use Technology To Create Huge Imbalanced Power Structures That Leave Imaginable Numbers Of Human Beings Deprived Of Meaningful Existence. Just Tell Those Poor Starving Sand Niggers That Their Beliefs Are Illogical So We Can Get Back To The Value Neutral Act Of Doing Science
@version191 Wow Capitalizing Every Single Word In My Run-On Sentence As Well As Wrongly Using Higher Leveled Vocabulary To Give The Illusion Of Appearing Intelligent Does Quite The Opposite And Makes Me Look Like An Uneducated Tool To The "Imaginable Numbers" Of People On YouTube Who Are Watching Me Make An Ass Out Of Myself.
@Trogdor00 Pathetic pedantry. Try responding to the content of the message Please. I'm trying to have a serious discussion here on this youtube page of a Faggot Richard Dawkins Video. It was clear that I intended to make the word "Unimaginable". Other mistakes were stylistic choices that you intentionally misinterpreted for the purposes of a pathetic ad hominem attack; a common logical fallacy. I Used The Word Niggers And You Accused Me Of Trying To Appear Intelligent
@version191 So let me get this straight. You purposely write like an idiot and then claim you're trying to have a "serious discussion"? It's clear to nobody but yourself if you decide to act like an idiot; using a text-based medium to convey your poor attempt at sarcasm doesn't do ANY discussion justice.
@version191 You wrote like a fool, so I treated you as one. If you want to share your opinions on the video, so be it. But if you can't even string a single coherent thought into text, then you're wasting everyone's time with your childishness. It's not cute, and it's not funny.
If a Christian (or someone of another religious affiliation) gives up their life to save another's, they know they are being rewarded on the other side.
If an atheist gives up their life to save another's, it is a completely selfless act, with no hope of reward.
@midnightmuse01 Christians give up their lives before they die true Christians are called to give up everything they have and do to serve God to help others find salvation. True Christians know they don't deserve a reward at the end of life but that with God's grace we have a hope. I don't see atheists sacrificing their money(which they worship) let alone their lives.
@ShawnSwander there is also absolutely no credibility behind the statement "...their money (which they worship)..." I am not sure where you got these misconstrued opinions from, but it's simply false. Atheists don't 'worship' their money anymore than any kind of believers. In fact, atheists don't go around asking for money every Sunday, last time I checked. Not to mention many of the very wealthy and corrupted American politicians are extremely 'religious'.
@midnightmuse01 "theists don't 'worship' their money anymore than any kind of believers" bullshit.
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. MAT 6:24
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
Americans who make 30k/year or more are in the top 1% in world wide wealth.
@ShawnSwander you are confusing believers with posers. Believers give their money to righteous causes is copious percentages. Compared to that you probably worship money.
@midnightmuse01 I'd sacrifice my life knowing that I'm saving a human being, which I believe are the most valuable things to exist. Knowing that I made a change for someone else and that I saved a life is by far the greatest reward I could get. I think even a christian would think this, I really doubt that while saving someones life, they think about the reward that they are going to get when they are in heaven.
@midnightmuse01 That's why I don't see any atheists giving up their life for anyone. By the way if a religious person kills rapes steals he knows he has to answer for his crimes. But if an atheist kills rapes or steals he has nothing to fear making it that much easier to repeat it again. And before you say anything man made law only gives justice to a few out of many.
@midnightmuse01 It isn't fair to assume that all Christians perform good acts solely for a reward in heaven and not by some form of altruism, nor to assume that they only do good things because of a reward or a "moral law". Furthermore, arguing that an atheist always does good acts without any ulterior motivation is false dichotomy. Altruism does not exist in the way that you describe; humans always have a self-motivated reason to do good, even if it seems superficially selfless.
@midnightmuse01 Actually, this is untrue but is basic for the self-preservation of the atheist faith.
You need only switch out the word 'atheism' with 'christian' in your second sentence to display the correct point of view of Christianity.
Your first sentence is entirely misplaced. Yet, if you have found some claiming to be Christian and telling you the first sentence, he or she is by no means Christian; they have their reward already and you can be pleased by that fact.
And why in hell would someone save another's life for a reward... a prize? So if your mother was dying, you wouldn't save her, because you know that you'd get no award?
Atheists most certainly have morals. Never in my life, as a child or an adult, have I thought to do something kind for someone because a higher being says that it is right, or because it will benefit me. I uphold my morals because (most) humans are born with sympathy and empathy, that is, emotions that cause them to feel for other humans. I care for others and I oppose the oppression and harm of others because it is the human thing to do.
@midnightmuse01 Exactly this. When I see apes and chimps displaying empathy and intense human like emotions towards one another (for example when another one of their clan dies) I just want to ask "who is their god"? After all, the religious say that without religion we have no morals. Complete and utter crap. That is what offends me.
@smithad1982 I don't see it as a big deal, it was done to me, and it doesn't define or ruin my life. By resorting to personal attacks you make your argument sound weak and based on emotion, rather then any sort of logic or discourse.
@VentusAetherius Were you circumcised when you were a child? You cannot rightfully say whether or not circumcision has left you sexually diminished if you have not had sex both before and after.
@plilgeberg I can rightfully say whether or not my sexual experience is diminished or not. I'm the one having sex in this anecdotal argument, and never in all of my many times doing the horizontal mambo w/ my SO has either of us gone: "gee, if only I never got a circumcision, I could have enjoyed sex, oh well". I've never not enjoyed sex, and I've never understood this weird obsession with telling people who are circumcised that they're not experiencing sex.
@FMNikoyo all arguments in this conversation could be considered arguments from ignorance because they assume that circumcision leads to a decreased sexual satisfaction, I'm stating that my anecdotal experience runs contrary to that.
@VentusAetherius I don't believe that you can. You have not experienced sex with your foreskin intact. I might have been better. I'm circumscribed as well, and I've never had problems with it, but it might be better with foreskin. I'll never really know. I have however heard a lot of people who got circumcised in their teenage years, and how much the regretted it.
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1 American Flag, minimum of 6 Atheists hanging near the top, 2-3 Corrupt Elected Officials strung throughout middle and 6 Satanic Traitors or World Terrorist Bankers swinging from lower branches.
Every person on earth has his/her own religion (what determines right and wrong). We will all die! Some of us believe that something will happen (result of what happens during one's lifetime) after death and some don't. If nothing happens . . . . , but if the former happens to be the case . . . .
@controlledemotions "but if the former happens to be the case . . . . " => lol do I sense a pascal wager here? I hope you don't suggest a dichotomy! The situation is just dividied between God vs no God. You also have to consider which God? Deistic God? One of the many of Hindu? Or something from shintosim? Even certain sects of Buddhism believe in deities too. When you get down to it, the probability for a God that you pick to be true against all religions is very slim.
@Casshyr You are quite correct my friend. Sth like pascal wager: Whether I see religious "myths" as unconfirmed theories, does not mean they are "all" what I think they are. Trying to have atleast a working definition from the perspectives of those "religions" whose perception of God seems to be the force behind what mr. Dawkins called "intelligent design". Thanks for your nice input!
1. Are human beings created by something or by someone? Lets also look around us, are the things we see created by someone or something?
2. May be human beings are created by the "Intelligent Designer". Do the creation of man by the "intelligent designer" has any purpose?
3. is it sensible to think that human actions (open and hidden) will be judged one day so that offenders and victims get what they both deserve? ......
Probably because male circumcision provides a real medical benefit. It reduces the risk of infection and other medical conditions in the nether regions.
@TheBrownSys UTI's are less frequent in the male infant than the female infant due to the longer urethra. Antibiotics can easily cure such rare UTI's. Name "other medical conditions".
Male circ removes healthy erogenous tissue. Most importantly 20 000 Meissner's corpuscles (tactile). The foreskin is naturally evolved for the pleasure of both partners and its removal leaves the male sexually diminished for life.
Education yourself before you spout ignorance based pro-circ rhetoric.
its funny because he made reference to morality when, in atheism, there is no morality so while he is right in saying, atheist are not being "good" or "righteous" by killing people or flying planes into building (hypothetically), there is absolutely no moral code to stop them. If an atheist did indeed kill hundreds of people in a bombing or something of the like, it has absolutely no repercussions. There is self-worship in atheism and if it feels good, do it
Well said my friend, the evil atheist does have absolutely no moral code...Except maybe deontology or cultural moral relativism. but thats all bullshit because there cannot be morality without appeasing an authority or the fear of repercussions but the atheist will have you believe that morality comes from empathy, that its an instinct!!Theyll even say social norms like morality evolved because it is beneficial for survival!
@wasabiwilliams so i guess you supressed instincts for your moral code ee? what do you do when someone hit you in the face? you turn the other cheek? bullshit!, you hit him in the face right away, irrational moral codes out of fear are useless and do not work, education based on evidence and reasoning is what bring morals to be developed properly in a society
@wasabiwilliams i completely agree if I understood you correctly. In no way would giving of yourself and extending your own efforts to benefit others help with your own survival. Survival of the fittest and natural selection is the driving force behind evolution. When we examine the people in the world that are upholding morality, following cultural laws, and helping people less fortunate than them, we do not see the fittest. These people tend to be the most unfit for survival in our time.
Survival of the fittest is true. But it applies to groups not individuals. back in the days in forests and such a group where the members helped each survived better than any individual just watching out for themselves.
@TheShaft Christianity convinces weak-minded people that immorality, unjust behavior, and escaping repercussions for evil action, is morality, justice and taking responsibility, by sugarcoating sadistic non-sense with a few verses about love.
Theistic religions are, by and large, evil claiming to be good.
@TheHigherVoltage If you feel it necessary to elaborate and not just make unwarranted and unsupported claims, I would love to have a conversation with you and try to iron things out. Until then, please make your arguments concise, well supported, and clear and don't just throw out accusations with no thought behind them
@TheShaft245 I am Atheist and have a Morals. I hate when people say that atheist don't. There are laws and punishments for people when they do something wrong. And blaming someone who commits a crime based on "no morality" is silly. Moral are built within people with or without religion. Saying all atheists have no moral code is like saying all creationists can't think for themselves.
@Arandomhero1117, That's fair. I understand you have morals and I wasn't saying atheists don't. I'm saying there is no point in morals if you are an atheist. To be frank, not any offense meant, life on earth for an atheist is futile. You are a meaningless body made up of material that will perish when you die and will never re-animate. If this is the case for you and everyone else, why would you need morality or want it? If I knew that everyone would cease to exist after death...
@Arandomhero1117...I would have no problem with doing whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted. Humans are driven by selfishness and that is transcendent over all religions. We have desires and needs but are, as atheists put it, suppressed by societies laws and regulations. If I was an atheist I'd say screw society, I'm doing what makes me feel good. There are no consequences. I'm not saying atheists don't have morals, I'm saying that they don't have to. It doesn't profit them in any way.
@Arandomhero1117 If anything, I'd encourage you to evaluate the presence of morals that seem circumstantially written on your heart and evaluate just where those specific sets of morals come from. You can say that it is from society and morals evolve just like species do but that has never made sense to me. If we are intrinsically selfish, then why were these laws that forbid us from such put in order in the first place. Thanks for your time. Sincerely, Matt
Of course we should be offended on such things, but offended because christians warn people of a eternal judgement, doesn t make sense because, there is no possible way to force a person to believe in Jesus Christ, christian people have the right to believe on such things, like Richard Dawkins was talking about respecting the opinion of others! There no possible link from the teachings of Jesus Christ to mass murderers.
@eeam1 "There no possible link from the teachings of Jesus Christ to mass murderers."
And yet the churches, crusaders, inquisitors, and individual Christian nutjobs routinely find them, by simply taking Jesus at his word in his 'if you eye causes you to sin cut it out' sadistic rant, and of course the 'if they will not bow to me, bring them forth and slay them in front of me' parable.
JESUS CHRIST, HIS CATHOLIC-UNIVERSAL-APOSTOLIC CHURCH, SACRAMENTS, THE BIBLE, MIRACLES, HEALINGS, ST. MARY APPARITIONS, MESSAGES FROM HEAVEN, SIGNS IN 2011 ARE NOT A MYTHOLOGY BUT THE REALITY !!!
this man is so blinded by his own bias that it is incredible... he takes very small facts and publically portrays them as if they are immoral. he does not explain the meaning behind them, however, which is not how an argument should be. this ignorant audience is completely uneducated. and speaking of education, what do we learn nowadays? gym? how to play basketball? not world history but our country's specific history? why bullying is bad? like wtf dont talk about "proper education"
First of all, I don't think you understand what a quotation is. A quotation is a quotation of the exact words of the person you are quoting, not your personal interpretation of what you think it is they mean.
Second, if you really think that's what he means, you must be either dishonest or stupid, I'm not sure which. He says that atheism does not MOTIVATE murder. Not that no atheists ever commit murder. There's a difference.
If you are a truth seeker, search "Truth Contest" in Google and click on the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says. Everyone needs to see this. The Present will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people. You will see what I mean when you read the first page.
@YawnGod I have heard Professor Dawkins comment negatively on male mutilation in other clips. There is a difference between having half an inch of skin cut off as an infant(which is when its usually done) and a pre-teen girl being held or strapped down while some one uses a sharpened spoon to dig the clitoris out of her and/or scrapes the labium minora raw so that when it heals(if it heals) the vaginal opening is sealed off with scar tissue.
@kingpharaohtsar I have a problem with the term "evil", Professor Dawkins has been labeled "evil" by many. I have been called evil when I state that yahveh( the god of Abraham) is a serial filicidial mass murder. The question comes down to weather the surgery is if benefit to the child or not. If it does not, than I have a problem with it.
@larrys92120 its rare such a thing is in the benefit of the childs heath an evil is mankind so ya ur evil im evil muslams jews that yhwy thay made up humans as a hole are sickining but i dont think this coz a book told me to my people have no hollybooks i know it by looking at
@FFreeThinker hello, do you have the link to the complete speech? would really love to watch this in full. thanks a lot :)
Jinglepify 1 day ago
May Berkeley continue to hire quality bombing math professors ... sadly the only liberal news-worthy one-man act of violence I can think of is affiliated with Berkeley. Sorry.
misterbrianchen 1 day ago
I'm offended by pompous stuffed suits tearing down all religions because a FEW are currently misbehaving. And because it is a hot button topic I'm guessing his books sell well and I'm guessing he has never donated to support an end to the problems in foreign countries he describes while Christians continue to go on missions to heal the sick in said dangerous parts of the world. Dumb Christians, risking lives (that's how crazy they are) when Dawkins could donate or make a speech and solve all.
misterbrianchen 1 day ago
I'd have to take issue with Dawkins' comments near the end of the clip that there was no logical path for atheists leading to such atrocious acts. How then does he explain all of the atrocities that have been committed by atheist communists at times over the past century? I think that Dawkins needs to rethink that comment a bit.
crucisnh 2 days ago
@crucisnh I understand your point, and I may be wrong about this, but I think that the communists you mentioned did not perpetrate their crimes in the name of atheism, but in the name of communism
bloodynoise666 2 days ago
@bloodynoise666 I suggest listening to about the final 30 seconds of this clip. Dawkins doesn't exactly say that it's necessarily in the name of the faith. I'd also counter that Hitler, supposedly a Catholic, hardly committed his atrocities in the name of Catholicism either.
crucisnh 1 day ago
@crucisnh you're right. I will also say that is not very clear what point does Dawkins really want to emphasize, and that weakens his whole speech. I generally agree with him. But he made things over complicated in this one, talking about how religious people sometimes do things because of this and sometimes because of that, and that "there is no such logical pathway leading from atheism to any such atrocius act" (which does not imply that atheist people perform such acts anyway)
bloodynoise666 1 day ago
@crucisnh
well hitler went on record as saying tha the did it because he was directed by god to do it so...
SuckMikeHunt 19 hours ago
Friend animal does not adopt behavior but they have all the distinguish information in their Jean. For example if you take an egg of eagle and take away from her in laboratory. The born Chick away from her mother in laboratory would never adopt human behavior but still it would be complete eagle and would hunt like eagle, would fly like eagle and would behave like eagle. Because not by natural selection or surrounding influence but by information and Knowledge which they have in their Jean or D
realtyofislam 2 days ago
Problem is that they Atheist deny God because of an experience of evil by religious people, suffering, natural disasters etc. But does such painful situation in human life disproof God ? I don't think so. Religious people can be wrong, you can complain or angry with God because of suffering in this world. But it does not mean He is not there, not exist and not created this world. I don't have answer why suffering are in this world. But I know there is a hope after this suffering. Just like a pr
realtyofislam 2 days ago
@realtyofislam Okay, why would this all-loving "god" create suffering , in the first place?
Why would God build the "perfect place" for life, only for it to die and go to the "perfect place"? What's the point in living, if you're religious? All you have to do is off yourself and go to Heaven, right? Oh wait, that's in, right? So, really God isn't giving you ANY signs that this place even EXISTS. That's all faith is: believing in something that's not there.
TheOkami1113 2 days ago
Yes, exactly I am asking this from all Atheists. Why Elephant knows to care for it's young ? Information and Knowledge which all creatures have in their DNA, how and where they came in them ? Who taught little ant to march in line, build their mound, knows their queen, store food before monsoon etc. Information in creation it self proofs that some one designed the wonderful creation. By seeing a car or computer you can not say they exist without cause and without designer.
realtyofislam 2 days ago
@realtyofislam All life has the innate responsibility to uphold their SURVIVAL. Remember "survival of the fittest?" Animals adapt to certain behaviors true INSTINCT. You will flinch when something lashes at you.
ID theorists are always giving the misnomer 'information' to 'instinct'
It's in our genes to be a certain way. And asking such a question is pointless, otherwise, life wouldn't exist. Even a predator doesn't ALWAYS hunt the prey. We, life, know how to live. We don't need strings.
TheOkami1113 2 days ago
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Turn over a US Dollar Bill. See that "all seeing eye" as the capstone on the Pyramid? That is the all seeing eye of Horus/Lucifer and at the base of that Pyramid are Latin words that translate to a New World Order. The Illuminati are so heavily documented a 5th grader writing their first research paper could easily write a factual report. Illuminati have a name for the mind-controlled brain dead, sheeple. Laugh it up funny boy cause your ass is on their menu with mint jelly.
waketheoblivious 3 days ago
DNA does not think, does not care, does not love, does not hope, does not intellectual response. DNA just exist in human body and by study of DNA you can get some information about that particular creature. But what about care, love, guilt, morality, Knowledge, dream, imagination, words, languages ? Who such things came in existence in human life ?
realtyofislam 3 days ago
@realtyofislam Is that a rhetorical question? Wouldn't you rather be curious, than make something up like a God? What religion is an elephant that cares for its young, or even another elephant in its group? Have you read enough of the quar'an to know if your natural morals agree with what you read. Science is slowly answering questions, while religion has made assertions. The natural world is a wonderful thing, you should come inside and try it out.
cvanunen 2 days ago
@realtyofislam what a stupid comment
dave6001 2 days ago
@doctorpurple Thank god your okay, implies the person thought I was a goner, and that it wasn't my ingenuity that saved me, because I'm to dumb for that, it had to be a supernatural power
(i dont actually get insulted, i just wanted to bring the point up :L)
TheMajorpickle01 3 days ago
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American Intelligence Exam -
On the US dollar, can you locate an "all seeing eye" represented as a pyramid capstone? At the base of the pyramid, can you find Latin words which translate to a New World Order? Illuminati symbolism, so easily documented a 5th grade elementary student writing first research paper, could easily write a factual report. Illuminati have a special label for mind-controlled brain dead, sheeple. Laugh it up class, your ass is featured on their menu with mint jelly.
waketheoblivious 3 days ago
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Fact - Economics is a Social Science, College of Liberal Arts.
Fact - Adam Smith's Classical Economic Theory, was Scientificly proven true & correct 250+ yrs ago.
Fact - Adam Smith, deliberately used the metaphor "Invisible Hand" as synonymous with God.
If Adam Smith, had used the word God instead of the metaphor "Invisble Hand", we'd be asking who was Adam Smith, but the Principle of Self Interest, Laws of Supply & Demand and the "Invisible Hand"/God would all still exist.
waketheoblivious 3 days ago
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An Inability To Understand, A Sworn Oath to God & Country, Does Not Disarm Or Deter The Lethal Duty To Defend God's US Constitution. You Who Attack God, Who Attack Countries & Who Attack Humanity, You Are The Enemy. Enemies Of God, Are Enemies Of Those Sworn To Protect God, Country, Constitution & Humanity.
All Men Are Created Equal, With Certain Inalienable Rights, Endowed By Our Creator. As Goes God, So Goes Freedom, Liberty & Justice For All.
Atheist/Satanist = EVIL ENEMY TERRORIST
waketheoblivious 3 days ago
Hitler was not veg.
avaizhashmi 4 days ago
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Turn over a US Dollar Bill. See that "all seeing eye" as the capstone on the Pyramid? That is the all seeing eye of Horus/Lucifer and at the base of that Pyramid are Latin words that translate to a New World Order. The Illuminati are so easily documented a 5th grader writing their first research paper could easily write a factual report. Illuminati have a name for the mind-controlled brain dead, sheeple. Laugh it up funny boys because your ass is on their menu with mint jelly.
waketheoblivious 4 days ago
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Fundamental Logic 101. A commitment to the truth (only sane choice), inherently expands to include all possibilities. Arbitrary dismissal of a possibility, breaches that commitment as a fatal logic error, proving themselves fundamentally insane liars & frauds. When Atheist/Satanists dismiss God as a possibility, they breach their commitment to the truth, resulting in the mindfucked insanity to argue justifying a lie, is rational behavior.
Atheist/Satanists = Godforsaken Nazis
waketheoblivious 4 days ago
THis guy's a joke
DoctorYuro 4 days ago
You are making a mistake. You can not argue with a religious person. Religion is a mental illness. The religious deal with anxiety by believing in a giant all powerful father in the sky who protects them. They obsess over behaviors like having to wear special hats, or say certain words in order to appease this ever-watchful disciplinarian. That is simply a cross between OCD, delusion and paranoia. For example try defining delusion, now try and distinguish between that and the belief in God.
zazen108 4 days ago 2
Thank you very much for calling me an "Idiot". You have proofed by your word that man need God for morality. Without God you can not be a good person. I am moral and loving nature person. But you have already exposed your anger and hatred heart. I was not God believing person but after increasing immorality in this world specially after increasing number of Atheist. I started to think, there must be some connection between good heart and God. Thanks for helping in my Faith.
realtyofislam 4 days ago
@realtyofislam I'm sorry you're so butthurt over a simple word. There's nothing immoral about pointing out when someone is spreading lies and misinformation and being ignorant. This is a typical behaviour of an IDIOT.
JackeShanTwo 4 days ago
@realtyofislam Mankind absolutely does not need god for morality. What do you consider morality based on god, stoning people to death for adultery, death for apostasy. Any god who supports this is and in his name would allow genocide and slavery is not good or moral. There is no good reason or in fact any evidence to support the existence of a god so why on earth would you believe in one?
ToewangJones 4 days ago
Foolish man ever lived on this planet. By the way, FOOL says in his heart, there is no God. If Following Christ is delusion then believing that man ancestors are monkey are much bigger delusion because evolutionist don't have scientific evidence except "hope and belief" which is also no different as believing in unseen, unproofed God. At least believing in God is much better delusion than believing man belong from monkey.
realtyofislam 4 days ago
@realtyofislam You're an idiot.
JackeShanTwo 4 days ago
@realtyofislam There is so much evidence to support the theory of evolution, just read basic biology text book or go to a museum and you will see it. The existence of a god on the other hand is completely and utterly unsupported by any evidence. Why is it a better delusion to believe in god, your stuck in a totalitarian regime in which you simply deny any piece of evidence that supports evolution. The rising number of atheists is the best thing that could happen to the human race.
ToewangJones 4 days ago
vegetarians are evil
that's a fact
al3699 6 days ago
The audience is annoying. Why can't they let him speak
Q8379 6 days ago
I want to put Dawkins inside a bullet proof glass box, i get so worried about him...there are crazies *ahemMuslimsahem* out there who would try to harm him for his views
kingkonghitme 6 days ago
I'm offended by the unemployment. It all started when someone finally believed in something, did something and the rest became unemployed. Lets all stop working, because unemployment is wrong! Hawkins do something about unemployment. Believe - action - result. Lets all stop believing in something.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
WHAT A BRILLIANT MAN HE IS.
alzibub60 1 week ago
vegetarians are the root of all evil!
MrGidderz 1 week ago
Religion - For people with no self respect.
NICH0LASM 1 week ago
With Dawkings his motivation all entrepreneurship should be forbidden. Because you have unemployment and that all started when someone finally believed in something. Believes - action - result. Than you care for something and want to protect that something. Now.. the Bible says "thou shal not kill". While the quran contains Jihadist writings, elements of violence. When Dawkins says religion causes war, he's generalising. Second most war are faught because of oil. Does Dawkings use transport??
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman The Christian doctrine was spread on rivers of blood; the Qur'an isn't half as violent as the Bible; which condones slavery, murder, genocide, and even sanctions rape. When Dawkins said 'religion causes war' he should have been more specific; monotheistic religions of the Abrahamic tradition cause war. Don't fool yourself into thinking the mass media drivel of 'war for oil' and this infantile notion of single causality.
RebelWrestler45 1 week ago
@RebelWrestler45 The Christian religion has not been spread on rivers of blood. One of the reasons, is that Christians celebrate Christmas. Christians never celebrated the birth of Christ. With the introduction of Christianity, it was easier to celebrate solstice with the pegan religious. Christianity took over the old European culture. The Catholic church their influance didn't end because of Atheism, by Protestants. Luther and Calvijn.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman The Holy Roman Empire spread Christianity across Europe through slaughter; don't even make me reference the crusades. Christmas is nothing more than the Christian plagiarization of the heathen festival of Saturnalia, interlaced with Germanic traditions of the winter solstice. Christianity was spread by the sword even more expansively than Islam.
RebelWrestler45 1 week ago
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@Brulluhman The Holy Roman Empire spread Christianity across Europe through slaughter; don't even make me reference the crusades. Christmas is nothing more than the Christian plagiarization of the heathen festival of Saturnalia, interlaced with Germanic traditions of the winter solstice. Christianity was spread by the sword even more expansively than Islam.
RebelWrestler45 1 week ago
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@Brulluhman The Holy Roman Empire spread Christianity across Europe through slaughter; don't even make me reference the crusades. Christmas is nothing more than the Christian plagiarization of the heathen festival of Saturnalia, interlaced with Germanic traditions of the winter solstice. Christianity was spread by the sword even more expansively than Islam was.
RebelWrestler45 1 week ago
@RebelWrestler45 Even modern Humanism was invented by an ex-catholic. Someone with vision based on Christianity. Believe - action - result.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman You do understand the logical fallacy you are committing here, right? Not only is this an attribution error but it is a pathetic appeal to authority. Secular humanism and even Empiricism were instantiated by religious people............during a scientifically ignorant and incredibly superstitious time.
RebelWrestler45 1 week ago
@RebelWrestler45 I believe our western culture is based on Judaism/Christianity (North European part Protestant/ South European part Catholic)/Modern Humanism (invented by a raised Catholic with Christian vision) and old Greek philosophical norms and values. Atheism on the other hand believes in nothing. Believe - action - result. They harp a lot (nothing to offer), while other cultures are taking over.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman Our western culture is intertwined with Christian tradition, but it certainly is not based on the Judeo Christian heritage. Here is where you are going wrong; unlike religion, Atheism is not an ideology, it is not a belief system, it is the singular rejection of the claim that a deity exists. That is all. Furthermore, only the ignorant derive their beliefs from bronze age mythology; the wise seek out truth through empirical examination of the evidence.
RebelWrestler45 1 week ago
@RebelWrestler45 That's what I'm telling. Because Atheism is nothing, it can do no harm. If that's the claim. Go kill yourself.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@RebelWrestler45 Where's the proof and evidence of Atheism is accurate and correct?
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman Atheism is the rejection of the claim that a god exists, based on insufficient (or non existent) evidence. The burden of proof lies with YOU. It is impossible to prove that god does not exist; because the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. In the same manner, it is impossible to prove that leprechauns, alien manned UFO's, unicorns, and the flying purple penis monster from Mars don't exist. What proof and evidence do you have to say don't have a 12 inch penis?
RebelWrestler45 1 week ago
@RebelWrestler45 I'm not going to show you. For the rest that's the same motivation you can use against every entrepreneur in the world. Believe - action - result. For Christians God is Love. When we want a lovely world, people should start believe in God.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman Yes, beliefs inform action, DUH. Every individual has beliefs, ALL Atheists have beliefs. The difference is that religious individuals have unjustified, irrational beliefs based on mythology whilst atheists inform their beliefs through empiricism. When we want a lovely world, we will honor religion as a part of our culture and heritage, yet recognize it as the mythology and ignorant ramblings of our backwards, superstitious, uninformed ancestors.
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@RebelWrestler45 "The difference is that religious individuals have unjustified, irrational beliefs based on mythology.."
Where's the proof and evidence of Atheism is accurate and correct? At least the Bible shows prophecies that have been fulfilled. Seems like you giving yourself some big applause to early. Atheism is something like... thinking everythings comes out of a shadow. When you find the end of it.. let me know.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman what? that question makes no sense. there is no doctrine or dogma to be considered accurate or correct...atheism isnt a belief system to prove...what is your question exactly?
doctorpurple 1 week ago
@doctorpurple Atheism means you don't believe in a God or more gods. Theism means you do. Atheism is a believe, because there's no proof or evidence that Atheism is accurate and correct. You say there's not, I say.. I feel otherwise and believe there is, but non of us can proof it. But.. when you want proof, you need to believe first, while Atheists like to see the proof first. I see Love as something that is abstract.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman "Atheism is a believe" Bullshit. Theists make positive claims towards the existence of X. They failed to provide evidence, but still claim X to exist. That's why faith is a delusion.
Atheism cuts though all this crap. That's why atheism is the default position.
TomFynn 1 week ago
@TomFynn I rather call it an abstract truth within the reach of mankind. When Atheism cuts though all this "crap" as you call it, where's the proof and evidence of that? Would you claim that there's nothing and everything exists out of there?
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman Abstract truth? Ah, so now it's abstract. God is pi? Whatever, its still humbug.
As for the universe, inform yourself on the latest finding of cosmology: watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
TomFynn 1 week ago
@TomFynn When someone talkes about origin and claims that everything comes out of nothing, it's simply not possible. There can't be 'something' without 'nothing'. Like when you've got white, you've also got black. Employment and unemployment. Before someone finally started to do something. The word 'employment' didn't exist and also the word 'unemployment' didn't exist. After someone did something, the words employed and unemployed started to exist. Both exist and not at the same time
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman Three words: particle-antiparticle generation. End of story.
TomFynn 1 week ago
@TomFynn I prefer particle - other or nonparticle. Because the existing of one, does excludes something else, but does not per definition has to be anti.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman You want some syrup with that waffle?
TomFynn 1 week ago
@Brulluhman
And this point you clearly want to stress SO badly, as evidence for your particular god. But then ... when somebody says to you : "That must then apply to your god as well, because, as you claim, something cannot be without nothing", you backtrack : "Nonononono, MY god is exempt, he's BEYOND the universe". In other words, the very rule you set down as evidence, you immediately break for your own explanation. Fallacy argument, nothing more, heard and debunked over and over
tdjdk 6 days ago
@tdjdk Here's the answer on that one. "When somebody says to you.. blablabla".
Maybe that something is God.
Brulluhman 6 days ago
@Brulluhman absolutely incorrect. i dont "believe in" a god, whatever that means. if you ask "is there a god?" or "does god exist?", then my answer would simply be "i have no idea." if your question is "do you think an arbitrarily decided-upon god cares about humankind?" my answer, with evidence to back it up, would be "no".
now, ill ask again, what "belief" in atheism do i think is accurate or correct? considering that there is no structure, dogma or scripture btw,
doctorpurple 1 week ago
@doctorpurple Than your not an Atheïst but you do know that your life is sacret. With you, so does everyone else think thatway. What makes the difference? That's believe.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman no, youre twisting my words, while failing to spell yours. I am an atheist as i dont believe in god, i dont have faith, and i have no reason to believe god exists. that does not mean i have a positive belief that there is NO god. the two are not the same. also, i do not belief my life is "sacret", which i can only assume should have been "sacred".
so, once more, i ask you what "beliefs" do atheists share? if you fail to address, i can only assume youre trolling.
doctorpurple 6 days ago
@doctorpurple Atheists believe that there is no God. That's the believe they share. You wrote that you would say "I have no idea". That means your an Agnost.
Brulluhman 6 days ago
@Brulluhman I disagree. I am "without god". I do not believe there is one. But I will never make the positive claim, because I am not a moron. Please, focus on one point; namely, what exactly do Atheists have to prove?
doctorpurple 4 days ago
@doctorpurple Atheist like me find it extreme ignorance and I personally find the idea of god as insulting
TheMajorpickle01 4 days ago
@TheMajorpickle01 I don't know why you'd find it insulting. I do find it to be the height of intellectual laziness to have blind faith, and find it worse when people lie about there being "evidence" to support the existence of god...so maybe I can agree that it'd be insulting to your intelligence. But there's no reason to be personally insulted by bronze-age traditions.
doctorpurple 4 days ago
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@doctorpurple
The existence of God was scientifically proven over 250+ years ago you illiterate ignoramus.
waketheoblivious 3 days ago
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@Brulluhman "Atheists believe that there is no God." Bullshit. Atheists state that the evidence necessary to even consider that the idea of the existence of God is to be given any merit is zip, zilch, zero, nada.
Therefore the only logical statement is "God does not exist".
If you think otherwise: Bring evidence.
TomFynn 4 days ago
@RebelWrestler45 Closest thing to Atheism, is something we call North Korea.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman That doesn't even make grammatical sense, and you once again are committing yet another red herring fallacy; and the ideals of the Kim regime in North Korea are the antithesis of Atheism. The Kim family is thought to be supernatural; there is a reason that Kim Il Sung is the eternal leader of North Korea; North Korea has a de jure state religion. Ignorance is not a virtue my friend, think for yourself, do some better research.
RebelWrestler45 1 week ago
@RebelWrestler45 That's the result of Atheism, North Korea culture. Most people are spiritual. There are 500 million Atheists on earth. Next thing is look at human itself. When you look in the mirror you might see some canine teeth. What sort is human. Preditor. Strong hang for hierarchy. What does that tell about political movements. People chose a leader. When religion is forbidden and most people are spiritual, what's the next thing?? North Korea.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman No, it isn't. There is no such thing as 'spiritual' because nobody can substantiate the existence of a 'spirit'. When religion is subverted by science and empiricism we get Japan, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway; which according to the Global Peace Index are the safest places to live. Across the board, without exception, when economic health is equal and a country is more secular, it is more peaceful. Again, North Korean ideology is the antithesis of Atheism.
RebelWrestler45 1 week ago
@RebelWrestler45 By the way, Atheists never ended the power of the catholic church. Protestants did. Luther and Calvijn. Calvinism also made capitalism work, not Atheism. Atheism never caused anything, but.. some other cultures getting involved in Europe.
Brulluhman 1 week ago
@Brulluhman Now we break out the straw man fallacy, you are beyond stupid. Anyways, capitalism made capitalism work. Once again, I repeat, I repeat, Atheism is not an ideology or belief system; it can prevent irrational action and beliefs, but it cannot cause action or form an individual's ideology or moral compass; that is where empiricism comes in.
RebelWrestler45 1 week ago
I really didnt like the way he only pointed out female circumcision as though male circumcision is ok. Both are downright disgusting, immoral and evil!
Brushles83 1 week ago
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Panic now permeates the incessant squawk of these Satanic Nazi Buzzards. Gone are the days of preening, standing a preponderance of bullshit. Smirking Satanic Shills, scheduled to squawk 24/7. Part of a highly organized gaggle engaged in a criminal attack against God, Country, Constitution, and Humanity. As goes God, so goes Freedom, Liberty & Justice For All. Replaced by a Nazi New World Order, envisioned as a Supreme Satanic Buzzard, with dictatorial authority over brain dead sheeple.
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Fact - Economics is a Social Science, College of Liberal Arts.
Fact - Adam Smith's Classical Economic Theory, was Scientificly proven true & correct 250+ yrs ago.
Fact - Adam Smith, deliberately used the metaphor "Invisible Hand" as synonymous with God.
If Adam Smith, had used the word God instead of the metaphor "Invisble Hand", we'd be asking who was Adam Smith, but the Principle of Self Interest, Laws of Supply & Demand and the "Invisible Hand" who created it all, would still exist.
waketheoblivious 1 week ago
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In spite of not being able to see or touch the human mind, most everyone would vehemently argue the human mind does exist & that they have one. Followed by, imbeciles who use their invisible mind, to argue God does not exist, because they can not see or touch Him. We are a created being with several senses. We were granted free will to choose subject to the Principle of Self Interest, which is the engine of life for all living things. Safe to assume, God expected we would use our mind to think.
waketheoblivious 1 week ago
@ShawnSwander atheists don't give up their money? Besides the millions of regular people who give to charity (did you see the Reddit r/atheism during the holiday season?), the perfect example to prove you wrong would be Bill Gates, who has already donated almost half of his net worth and has saved an estimated 58 million lives, 7.2 million of those being children under the age of 5. Why? Because he believes in humanity, nothing more, nothing less.
midnightmuse01 1 week ago
@raulsnchez There are plenty of atheists who do incredible things for people, completely altruistically. Please do your research before assuming that atheists are bad people. All over the world, people use religion as an excuse for atrocities, in "the name of God"
midnightmuse01 1 week ago
I assume that most of the 472 dislikes on this video are from religious people. Why did you thumb down this video? Everything he said in here was truth, outside of the few opinions he listed at the beginning of the video. Will you turn a blind eye to truth if it bashes on or clashes against your religion?
Ravalexand 2 weeks ago
Anyone who believes in God should be offended when someone acts evangelist for unproven scientific theories that don't even meet the scientific criteria for a theory (fallibility). Evolution is full of misleading terms and is taught incorrectly and incompletely from a very young age. Please don't take my word for it but do your own unbiased research and be thorough.
ShawnSwander 2 weeks ago
It certainly has more to back it up than "An imaginary man in the sky got creative one day and decided to create all of this from nothing very quickly. A couple thousand years later when it was clear that his beloved humans were dying all over the world from starvation before their second birthdays while others were rolling along in their Bentleys, he just turned a blind eye."
midnightmuse01 1 week ago
@ShawnSwander How is Evolution full of misleading terms? Read a proper book on evolution, it will be full of scientific terms.
Actually, first, get a basic understanding of science and its terminology, then read a proper book. Most books are dumbed down because the vast majority of humankind are morons who need everything to be spoonfed to them, such as you.
Helge129 1 week ago
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@ShawnSwander How is Evolution full of misleading terms? Read a proper book on evolution, it will be full of scientific terms.
Actually, first, get a basic understanding of science and its terminology, then read a proper book. Most books are dumbed down because the vast majority of humankind are morons who need everything to be spoonfed to them, such as you.
Helge129 1 week ago
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@ShawnSwander How is Evolution full of misleading terms? Read a proper book on evolution, it will be full of scientific terms.
Actually, first, get a basic understanding of science and its terminology, then read a proper book. Most books are dumbed down because the vast majority of humankind are morons who need everything to be spoonfed to them, such as you.
Helge129 1 week ago
Wow abusing children and stoning people sure is wrong and its caused by religion and Absolutely Doesn't Have Anything To Do With Extreme Economic Inequality That Definitely Isn't Fueled AT ALL By The Way People Use Technology To Create Huge Imbalanced Power Structures That Leave Imaginable Numbers Of Human Beings Deprived Of Meaningful Existence. Just Tell Those Poor Starving Sand Niggers That Their Beliefs Are Illogical So We Can Get Back To The Value Neutral Act Of Doing Science
version191 2 weeks ago
@version191 Wow Capitalizing Every Single Word In My Run-On Sentence As Well As Wrongly Using Higher Leveled Vocabulary To Give The Illusion Of Appearing Intelligent Does Quite The Opposite And Makes Me Look Like An Uneducated Tool To The "Imaginable Numbers" Of People On YouTube Who Are Watching Me Make An Ass Out Of Myself.
Trogdor00 2 weeks ago
@Trogdor00 Pathetic pedantry. Try responding to the content of the message Please. I'm trying to have a serious discussion here on this youtube page of a Faggot Richard Dawkins Video. It was clear that I intended to make the word "Unimaginable". Other mistakes were stylistic choices that you intentionally misinterpreted for the purposes of a pathetic ad hominem attack; a common logical fallacy. I Used The Word Niggers And You Accused Me Of Trying To Appear Intelligent
version191 2 weeks ago
@version191 So let me get this straight. You purposely write like an idiot and then claim you're trying to have a "serious discussion"? It's clear to nobody but yourself if you decide to act like an idiot; using a text-based medium to convey your poor attempt at sarcasm doesn't do ANY discussion justice.
Trogdor00 2 weeks ago
@version191 You wrote like a fool, so I treated you as one. If you want to share your opinions on the video, so be it. But if you can't even string a single coherent thought into text, then you're wasting everyone's time with your childishness. It's not cute, and it's not funny.
Trogdor00 2 weeks ago
Richard Dawkins talks quietly truely about things that offend. Killing is wrong. Child abuse is wrong.
fulfilled123 2 weeks ago
Also consider this:
If a Christian (or someone of another religious affiliation) gives up their life to save another's, they know they are being rewarded on the other side.
If an atheist gives up their life to save another's, it is a completely selfless act, with no hope of reward.
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midnightmuse01 2 weeks ago 102
@midnightmuse01 Christians give up their lives before they die true Christians are called to give up everything they have and do to serve God to help others find salvation. True Christians know they don't deserve a reward at the end of life but that with God's grace we have a hope. I don't see atheists sacrificing their money(which they worship) let alone their lives.
ShawnSwander 2 weeks ago
@ShawnSwander there is also absolutely no credibility behind the statement "...their money (which they worship)..." I am not sure where you got these misconstrued opinions from, but it's simply false. Atheists don't 'worship' their money anymore than any kind of believers. In fact, atheists don't go around asking for money every Sunday, last time I checked. Not to mention many of the very wealthy and corrupted American politicians are extremely 'religious'.
midnightmuse01 1 week ago
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@midnightmuse01 "theists don't 'worship' their money anymore than any kind of believers" bullshit.
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. MAT 6:24
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)
Americans who make 30k/year or more are in the top 1% in world wide wealth.
ShawnSwander 1 week ago
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@ShawnSwander you are confusing believers with posers. Believers give their money to righteous causes is copious percentages. Compared to that you probably worship money.
ShawnSwander 1 week ago
@midnightmuse01 I'd sacrifice my life knowing that I'm saving a human being, which I believe are the most valuable things to exist. Knowing that I made a change for someone else and that I saved a life is by far the greatest reward I could get. I think even a christian would think this, I really doubt that while saving someones life, they think about the reward that they are going to get when they are in heaven.
freetrader0000 2 weeks ago
@midnightmuse01 That's why I don't see any atheists giving up their life for anyone. By the way if a religious person kills rapes steals he knows he has to answer for his crimes. But if an atheist kills rapes or steals he has nothing to fear making it that much easier to repeat it again. And before you say anything man made law only gives justice to a few out of many.
raulsnchez 2 weeks ago
@midnightmuse01 It isn't fair to assume that all Christians perform good acts solely for a reward in heaven and not by some form of altruism, nor to assume that they only do good things because of a reward or a "moral law". Furthermore, arguing that an atheist always does good acts without any ulterior motivation is false dichotomy. Altruism does not exist in the way that you describe; humans always have a self-motivated reason to do good, even if it seems superficially selfless.
Vulcapyro 1 week ago 2
@midnightmuse01 Actually, this is untrue but is basic for the self-preservation of the atheist faith.
You need only switch out the word 'atheism' with 'christian' in your second sentence to display the correct point of view of Christianity.
Your first sentence is entirely misplaced. Yet, if you have found some claiming to be Christian and telling you the first sentence, he or she is by no means Christian; they have their reward already and you can be pleased by that fact.
cliffandy 1 week ago
@midnightmuse01
There's no reward after death. Death = gone.
And why in hell would someone save another's life for a reward... a prize? So if your mother was dying, you wouldn't save her, because you know that you'd get no award?
Lmao. Strong logic Sir.
Ignorancus 6 days ago
@Ignorancus Trollololol
brandeninbc 6 days ago
Atheists most certainly have morals. Never in my life, as a child or an adult, have I thought to do something kind for someone because a higher being says that it is right, or because it will benefit me. I uphold my morals because (most) humans are born with sympathy and empathy, that is, emotions that cause them to feel for other humans. I care for others and I oppose the oppression and harm of others because it is the human thing to do.
midnightmuse01 2 weeks ago 11
@midnightmuse01 Exactly this. When I see apes and chimps displaying empathy and intense human like emotions towards one another (for example when another one of their clan dies) I just want to ask "who is their god"? After all, the religious say that without religion we have no morals. Complete and utter crap. That is what offends me.
0andrewsmith0 2 weeks ago 2
Why is there even an argument involving sexual fulfillment? The plain fact is that circumcision is CUTTING OF A PART OF A BABY'S BODY!
If you can't see that basic fact, you are retarded.
smithad1982 2 weeks ago 33
@smithad1982 I don't see it as a big deal, it was done to me, and it doesn't define or ruin my life. By resorting to personal attacks you make your argument sound weak and based on emotion, rather then any sort of logic or discourse.
VentusAetherius 2 weeks ago
@EliteDoomer: I was circumcised, and neither me nor my partner have felt sexually diminished.
VentusAetherius 2 weeks ago
@VentusAetherius
I'm assuming you are male?
Proxyincognito 2 weeks ago
@VentusAetherius Were you circumcised when you were a child? You cannot rightfully say whether or not circumcision has left you sexually diminished if you have not had sex both before and after.
plilgeberg 2 weeks ago
@plilgeberg I can rightfully say whether or not my sexual experience is diminished or not. I'm the one having sex in this anecdotal argument, and never in all of my many times doing the horizontal mambo w/ my SO has either of us gone: "gee, if only I never got a circumcision, I could have enjoyed sex, oh well". I've never not enjoyed sex, and I've never understood this weird obsession with telling people who are circumcised that they're not experiencing sex.
VentusAetherius 2 weeks ago
@VentusAetherius If you weren't circumcised, you can't know and this is therefore an argument from ignorance, and not worth anyone's time.
FMNikoyo 2 weeks ago
@FMNikoyo all arguments in this conversation could be considered arguments from ignorance because they assume that circumcision leads to a decreased sexual satisfaction, I'm stating that my anecdotal experience runs contrary to that.
VentusAetherius 2 weeks ago
@VentusAetherius I don't believe that you can. You have not experienced sex with your foreskin intact. I might have been better. I'm circumscribed as well, and I've never had problems with it, but it might be better with foreskin. I'll never really know. I have however heard a lot of people who got circumcised in their teenage years, and how much the regretted it.
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There are twice as many atheists in prison as you would expect.
Source Scottish prison figures.
These are verifiable figures, you can look them up on government official sites, unlike the fake and ridiculous claims made on atheist sites.
Atheism is the religion of criminals.
ufewl 2 weeks ago
Every person on earth has his/her own religion (what determines right and wrong). We will all die! Some of us believe that something will happen (result of what happens during one's lifetime) after death and some don't. If nothing happens . . . . , but if the former happens to be the case . . . .
controlledemotions 2 weeks ago
@controlledemotions "but if the former happens to be the case . . . . " => lol do I sense a pascal wager here? I hope you don't suggest a dichotomy! The situation is just dividied between God vs no God. You also have to consider which God? Deistic God? One of the many of Hindu? Or something from shintosim? Even certain sects of Buddhism believe in deities too. When you get down to it, the probability for a God that you pick to be true against all religions is very slim.
Casshyr 2 weeks ago
@Casshyr You are quite correct my friend. Sth like pascal wager: Whether I see religious "myths" as unconfirmed theories, does not mean they are "all" what I think they are. Trying to have atleast a working definition from the perspectives of those "religions" whose perception of God seems to be the force behind what mr. Dawkins called "intelligent design". Thanks for your nice input!
controlledemotions 2 weeks ago
Let's ask ourselves these questions:
1. Are human beings created by something or by someone? Lets also look around us, are the things we see created by someone or something?
2. May be human beings are created by the "Intelligent Designer". Do the creation of man by the "intelligent designer" has any purpose?
3. is it sensible to think that human actions (open and hidden) will be judged one day so that offenders and victims get what they both deserve? ......
controlledemotions 2 weeks ago
Why leave out male genital mutilation Dawkins? Our pain and sexual diminishing was and is real too.
EliteDoomer 2 weeks ago
@EliteDoomer
Probably because male circumcision provides a real medical benefit. It reduces the risk of infection and other medical conditions in the nether regions.
TheBrownSys 2 weeks ago
@TheBrownSys UTI's are less frequent in the male infant than the female infant due to the longer urethra. Antibiotics can easily cure such rare UTI's. Name "other medical conditions".
Male circ removes healthy erogenous tissue. Most importantly 20 000 Meissner's corpuscles (tactile). The foreskin is naturally evolved for the pleasure of both partners and its removal leaves the male sexually diminished for life.
Education yourself before you spout ignorance based pro-circ rhetoric.
EliteDoomer 2 weeks ago
@TheBrownSys
There is currently not a single doctors' organisation that recommends routine circumcision for medical reasons.
MrPeberrod 2 weeks ago
Since when do puppets get offended?
xiq7777 3 weeks ago
its funny because he made reference to morality when, in atheism, there is no morality so while he is right in saying, atheist are not being "good" or "righteous" by killing people or flying planes into building (hypothetically), there is absolutely no moral code to stop them. If an atheist did indeed kill hundreds of people in a bombing or something of the like, it has absolutely no repercussions. There is self-worship in atheism and if it feels good, do it
TheShaft245 3 weeks ago
@TheShaft245 Good people will do good things and bad people will do bad things, but for a good person to do a bad thing, that takes religion.
StigmatiX 3 weeks ago
@TheShaft245
Well said my friend, the evil atheist does have absolutely no moral code...Except maybe deontology or cultural moral relativism. but thats all bullshit because there cannot be morality without appeasing an authority or the fear of repercussions but the atheist will have you believe that morality comes from empathy, that its an instinct!!Theyll even say social norms like morality evolved because it is beneficial for survival!
wasabiwilliams 3 weeks ago
@wasabiwilliams so i guess you supressed instincts for your moral code ee? what do you do when someone hit you in the face? you turn the other cheek? bullshit!, you hit him in the face right away, irrational moral codes out of fear are useless and do not work, education based on evidence and reasoning is what bring morals to be developed properly in a society
1984serpiente 3 weeks ago
@1984serpiente
poes law
wasabiwilliams 3 weeks ago
@wasabiwilliams i completely agree if I understood you correctly. In no way would giving of yourself and extending your own efforts to benefit others help with your own survival. Survival of the fittest and natural selection is the driving force behind evolution. When we examine the people in the world that are upholding morality, following cultural laws, and helping people less fortunate than them, we do not see the fittest. These people tend to be the most unfit for survival in our time.
TheShaft245 2 weeks ago
@TheShaft245
Survival of the fittest is true. But it applies to groups not individuals. back in the days in forests and such a group where the members helped each survived better than any individual just watching out for themselves.
wasabiwilliams 2 weeks ago
@TheShaft Christianity convinces weak-minded people that immorality, unjust behavior, and escaping repercussions for evil action, is morality, justice and taking responsibility, by sugarcoating sadistic non-sense with a few verses about love.
Theistic religions are, by and large, evil claiming to be good.
TheHigherVoltage 3 weeks ago
@TheHigherVoltage If you feel it necessary to elaborate and not just make unwarranted and unsupported claims, I would love to have a conversation with you and try to iron things out. Until then, please make your arguments concise, well supported, and clear and don't just throw out accusations with no thought behind them
TheShaft245 2 weeks ago
@TheShaft245
i am atheist and i have a moral code
ThePoorShogun 3 weeks ago
@TheShaft245 I am Atheist and have a Morals. I hate when people say that atheist don't. There are laws and punishments for people when they do something wrong. And blaming someone who commits a crime based on "no morality" is silly. Moral are built within people with or without religion. Saying all atheists have no moral code is like saying all creationists can't think for themselves.
Arandomhero1117 3 weeks ago
@Arandomhero1117, That's fair. I understand you have morals and I wasn't saying atheists don't. I'm saying there is no point in morals if you are an atheist. To be frank, not any offense meant, life on earth for an atheist is futile. You are a meaningless body made up of material that will perish when you die and will never re-animate. If this is the case for you and everyone else, why would you need morality or want it? If I knew that everyone would cease to exist after death...
TheShaft245 3 weeks ago
@Arandomhero1117...I would have no problem with doing whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted. Humans are driven by selfishness and that is transcendent over all religions. We have desires and needs but are, as atheists put it, suppressed by societies laws and regulations. If I was an atheist I'd say screw society, I'm doing what makes me feel good. There are no consequences. I'm not saying atheists don't have morals, I'm saying that they don't have to. It doesn't profit them in any way.
TheShaft245 3 weeks ago
@Arandomhero1117 If anything, I'd encourage you to evaluate the presence of morals that seem circumstantially written on your heart and evaluate just where those specific sets of morals come from. You can say that it is from society and morals evolve just like species do but that has never made sense to me. If we are intrinsically selfish, then why were these laws that forbid us from such put in order in the first place. Thanks for your time. Sincerely, Matt
TheShaft245 3 weeks ago
@TheShaft245
You really think that your moral code comes from your fairy tale "god". Ignorant twit.
TheBrownSys 2 weeks ago
@TomFynn
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eeam1 3 weeks ago
Of course we should be offended on such things, but offended because christians warn people of a eternal judgement, doesn t make sense because, there is no possible way to force a person to believe in Jesus Christ, christian people have the right to believe on such things, like Richard Dawkins was talking about respecting the opinion of others! There no possible link from the teachings of Jesus Christ to mass murderers.
eeam1 3 weeks ago
@eeam1 "There no possible link from the teachings of Jesus Christ to mass murderers." Three words: Gott mit uns.
TomFynn 3 weeks ago
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@eeam1 "There no possible link from the teachings of Jesus Christ to mass murderers."
And yet the churches, crusaders, inquisitors, and individual Christian nutjobs routinely find them, by simply taking Jesus at his word in his 'if you eye causes you to sin cut it out' sadistic rant, and of course the 'if they will not bow to me, bring them forth and slay them in front of me' parable.
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JezusSlave 3 weeks ago
this man is so blinded by his own bias that it is incredible... he takes very small facts and publically portrays them as if they are immoral. he does not explain the meaning behind them, however, which is not how an argument should be. this ignorant audience is completely uneducated. and speaking of education, what do we learn nowadays? gym? how to play basketball? not world history but our country's specific history? why bullying is bad? like wtf dont talk about "proper education"
Lodii23 3 weeks ago
@Lodii23 You're hilarious. Good one.
SilentEcho8 3 weeks ago
There are zero atheists in this world who've commited murder-Dawkins
Ipostle 4 weeks ago
@Ipostle
I doubt Dawkins ever said that. Please cite the video, article, or book from which you got that quotation.
colourfulwithaU 4 weeks ago
@colourfulwithaU If you watched this video you saw him blame everyone BUT non-religious people for murder.You did watch this video-Right?
Ipostle 4 weeks ago
@Ipostle
First of all, I don't think you understand what a quotation is. A quotation is a quotation of the exact words of the person you are quoting, not your personal interpretation of what you think it is they mean.
Second, if you really think that's what he means, you must be either dishonest or stupid, I'm not sure which. He says that atheism does not MOTIVATE murder. Not that no atheists ever commit murder. There's a difference.
colourfulwithaU 4 weeks ago
If you are a truth seeker, search "Truth Contest" in Google and click on the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says. Everyone needs to see this. The Present will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people. You will see what I mean when you read the first page.
23rock3 1 month ago
Did Dawkins forget male genital mutilation? Or has the thousands of years that has been in caucasian culture made it "ok"?
YawnGod 1 month ago 2
@YawnGod I have heard Professor Dawkins comment negatively on male mutilation in other clips. There is a difference between having half an inch of skin cut off as an infant(which is when its usually done) and a pre-teen girl being held or strapped down while some one uses a sharpened spoon to dig the clitoris out of her and/or scrapes the labium minora raw so that when it heals(if it heals) the vaginal opening is sealed off with scar tissue.
larrys92120 3 weeks ago
@larrys92120 The way you put it makes it sound absolutely delicious.
I'd use a spork.
YawnGod 3 weeks ago
@larrys92120 the lesser of to evils is still evil never cut children unless medicaly needed its unnatural
kingpharaohtsar 3 weeks ago 2
@kingpharaohtsar I have a problem with the term "evil", Professor Dawkins has been labeled "evil" by many. I have been called evil when I state that yahveh( the god of Abraham) is a serial filicidial mass murder. The question comes down to weather the surgery is if benefit to the child or not. If it does not, than I have a problem with it.
larrys92120 3 weeks ago
@larrys92120 its rare such a thing is in the benefit of the childs heath an evil is mankind so ya ur evil im evil muslams jews that yhwy thay made up humans as a hole are sickining but i dont think this coz a book told me to my people have no hollybooks i know it by looking at