I shoud add this has been like this since day one, run time of the burner to heat the water in the boiler, (boiler holds 14 gallons not including 100' 0f 1" pex pipe) 20 to 30 min. run time, witch i am sure is way to long, fire is not burning hot enought at all....see bottom post an work your way up
side of pump say set psi to 140, I do not know what the nozzle psi is, and the wholesaler don't know ether, said never been asked that, and nothing on the nozzle other then 1.00 60deg.. now after haveing 3 so called pro's here telling me all is good when I know my self it is not,, i have worked as a welder in the bush, heavy eqipment repairs, marine and auto repair, as well fixed mayny oil units in my 50 + years so it is not like I am an office worker.... any help msg me,, thanks, never find thi
smoke, and i have to open up the top of th boiler at lest 3 times a winter and pull all 30 rodes out of all the 1-3/4" tube that go though the water and out the vent. they are pluged up sold all the time, i take the burnned out, change the nozzle to same as from factory suck out 5 galllons of black damp sut. not to mention all the oil o go though, i know it is putting out 140psi as i put a gage on it my self when I installed it, and many times since,
i installed a new nyt boiler with a Beckett burner, punp set from factory 149psi, the boiler can use a nozzle up to 2gpm, but it came from the factory with burner installled, with a 1 gpm nozzle 60deg, I have had 3 aervice tects here since I installed it in 2006, and they all put there testing prob in the small hole on the direct vent stack and say all is good, I has a air intake hooked into the wall vent as this is direct vented. i have tried etting the air many times but, it keeps blowing
just as it is unlikely that you have a 1960's auto in the drive way , so should it be that your oil fired burner isn't of that vintage. technology has improved significantly on residential burners and for that reason plus the improvement in fuel economy and electrical consumption ,one would do themselves a favour upgrading to a burner made in this century. Very few if any that use less than 140 PSI oil pressure for atomization.
get the nozzle for the oil pressure and boiler vessel. the change in the oil pressure is not quite like people might think. doubling the oil pressure does not double the out put of a nozzle , as newer burners come on line that operate in the 300 to 900 PSI a person would be doing well to investigate that a little further. Older oil burners , burned an oil fuel with considerably more BTU's per gallon , this allowed 100 psi atomization of the fuel ....however ,
You can increase pump pressure but keep in mind you will have to reduce nozzle size and change the spray angle in a lot of cases. Nozzles are rated at 100 psi so if your furnace is rated for a 1.00 gph and you feel you need to increase pump psi to inprove burner performance don't forget to check the chart to see what nozzle will produce 1.00 per hour at that psi. You will also want to chose a spray angel that will fill the chamber without impinging. Experience is the best teacher on this call.
Beckett burners, the newer ones that come through with the big ole blue box on Burnham boilers and the "L" heads, i usually convert the burner back to the "F" head style when buying a package boiler setup.
8184 primaries worked fine, but now we have the pre purge - post purge stuff. i like the lock out feature though, people like to push the reset button a million times, but with the newer primaries, that solved flooding the chamber with oil problem.
I would agree with that-80psi is abit low-the nozzels are rated to give there through put at 100 psi and most burners expecially flame retention type burners run at 10 bar or around 150psi-Those nozzel removers are choice-I like the way the outer just pulls off which gives you a bare socket-not that you showed that.
I miss coming home from work, saturated with fuel oil. That's the worst stench of all. REALLY good video. The only thing I didn't catch was the mention of hollow or solid spray patterns for the nozzles. Beckett burners and Sundstrand oil pumps... those were the days!
@MagicPatrick1 The thing is you never exceed the maximum firing rate. If a unit max firing rate is 1.00gph @ 100psi and you increase it 140psi using the 1.00gph nozzle, you have now over fired the unit. Never do this ever. Always match the nozzle at a given psi to produce the correct firing rate. All nozzle manufacturers print such a chart showing the firing rate of nozzles at different pressures.Forget the 80psi stuff. No debate on increasing pump psi without taking in account the nozzle
you took my comments down clown? propaganda machine. say something for your self genius.
TheWillygood 1 month ago
I shoud add this has been like this since day one, run time of the burner to heat the water in the boiler, (boiler holds 14 gallons not including 100' 0f 1" pex pipe) 20 to 30 min. run time, witch i am sure is way to long, fire is not burning hot enought at all....see bottom post an work your way up
arnoldcustom 1 month ago
@arnoldcustom What's the flue size?
You may have a drafting issue and they downfired the unit?
MagicPatrick1 1 month ago
side of pump say set psi to 140, I do not know what the nozzle psi is, and the wholesaler don't know ether, said never been asked that, and nothing on the nozzle other then 1.00 60deg.. now after haveing 3 so called pro's here telling me all is good when I know my self it is not,, i have worked as a welder in the bush, heavy eqipment repairs, marine and auto repair, as well fixed mayny oil units in my 50 + years so it is not like I am an office worker.... any help msg me,, thanks, never find thi
arnoldcustom 1 month ago
smoke, and i have to open up the top of th boiler at lest 3 times a winter and pull all 30 rodes out of all the 1-3/4" tube that go though the water and out the vent. they are pluged up sold all the time, i take the burnned out, change the nozzle to same as from factory suck out 5 galllons of black damp sut. not to mention all the oil o go though, i know it is putting out 140psi as i put a gage on it my self when I installed it, and many times since,
arnoldcustom 1 month ago
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i installed a new nyt boiler with a Beckett burner, punp set from factory 149psi, the boiler can use a nozzle up to 2gpm, but it came from the factory with burner installled, with a 1 gpm nozzle 60deg, I have had 3 aervice tects here since I installed it in 2006, and they all put there testing prob in the small hole on the direct vent stack and say all is good, I has a air intake hooked into the wall vent as this is direct vented. i have tried etting the air many times but, it keeps blowing
arnoldcustom 1 month ago
just as it is unlikely that you have a 1960's auto in the drive way , so should it be that your oil fired burner isn't of that vintage. technology has improved significantly on residential burners and for that reason plus the improvement in fuel economy and electrical consumption ,one would do themselves a favour upgrading to a burner made in this century. Very few if any that use less than 140 PSI oil pressure for atomization.
1WaySafe 7 months ago
get the nozzle for the oil pressure and boiler vessel. the change in the oil pressure is not quite like people might think. doubling the oil pressure does not double the out put of a nozzle , as newer burners come on line that operate in the 300 to 900 PSI a person would be doing well to investigate that a little further. Older oil burners , burned an oil fuel with considerably more BTU's per gallon , this allowed 100 psi atomization of the fuel ....however ,
1WaySafe 7 months ago
You can increase pump pressure but keep in mind you will have to reduce nozzle size and change the spray angle in a lot of cases. Nozzles are rated at 100 psi so if your furnace is rated for a 1.00 gph and you feel you need to increase pump psi to inprove burner performance don't forget to check the chart to see what nozzle will produce 1.00 per hour at that psi. You will also want to chose a spray angel that will fill the chamber without impinging. Experience is the best teacher on this call.
yrtuag 7 months ago
very good video
freonfreak65 1 year ago
@freonfreak65 Thanks)
MagicPatrick1 1 year ago
HAHAHAHA "Weasle piss"
abcfuckind 1 year ago
Beckett burners, the newer ones that come through with the big ole blue box on Burnham boilers and the "L" heads, i usually convert the burner back to the "F" head style when buying a package boiler setup.
8184 primaries worked fine, but now we have the pre purge - post purge stuff. i like the lock out feature though, people like to push the reset button a million times, but with the newer primaries, that solved flooding the chamber with oil problem.
Joop5000 1 year ago
@Joop5000 Plus after you hold it down and 'tap' it, seems to be much easier bleeding the pump.
MagicPatrick1 1 year ago
I would agree with that-80psi is abit low-the nozzels are rated to give there through put at 100 psi and most burners expecially flame retention type burners run at 10 bar or around 150psi-Those nozzel removers are choice-I like the way the outer just pulls off which gives you a bare socket-not that you showed that.
cddisme123 1 year ago
Ive never seen Hand Shield but Magic Gloves works well and can be found at Ace Hardware
johnnyrotten52 2 years ago
I miss coming home from work, saturated with fuel oil. That's the worst stench of all. REALLY good video. The only thing I didn't catch was the mention of hollow or solid spray patterns for the nozzles. Beckett burners and Sundstrand oil pumps... those were the days!
PutSome5tankOnIt 2 years ago
Remember 'Hand Shield'? I can't find that stuff anymore. It came in a bottle and you
squirted it on your hands. Then when you were done servicing, everything would just wash right off!!!
I didn't do the nozzels because I want to get a few more exaples, which I dont have yet, like Steinen's.
MagicPatrick1 2 years ago
That are alot of tools ... cool to have all that ... 5*
MagicCadillac 2 years ago
Thanks for watching!
MagicPatrick1 2 years ago
Thanks for the tip.
mechanicwarrior20 2 years ago
Nono, Thank you!
If it wasn't guys like you and Dr_Zarkloff probably wouldn't even be interested in doing these videos.
Though I must admit, oil isn't quite my specialty. But i'll be happy to share a bit of what I do know.
I'd love to spark a debate on here about pump pressure. Manufacturers stand by not exceeding the 'designed operating pressure'.
But I've heard different from several other contractors.
MagicPatrick1 2 years ago
@MagicPatrick1 The thing is you never exceed the maximum firing rate. If a unit max firing rate is 1.00gph @ 100psi and you increase it 140psi using the 1.00gph nozzle, you have now over fired the unit. Never do this ever. Always match the nozzle at a given psi to produce the correct firing rate. All nozzle manufacturers print such a chart showing the firing rate of nozzles at different pressures.Forget the 80psi stuff. No debate on increasing pump psi without taking in account the nozzle
yrtuag 7 months ago