Yes people. The government has more of a right to your money that you worked for than You do. In the middle of a recession, your hard work will be punished. You will pay for the medical bill of strangers in taxes.. or be taken to jail like a violent offender, federal jail, for tax evasion. Enjoy.
Obama's butt has been kicked on his plan for socialized medicine. Don't need to look any further than the senate race in Massachusetts for proof of that.
If the public option is dropped, then Healthcare reform is a sham. There is NO WAY to contain costs without it. Without it, reform is the Insurance Company Profit Assurance Act.
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Is western Europe socialist or communist? Well, we all have a National Health Care Service which provides health care to everyone who needs it. Noone here can understand how it is possible that USA, a country that has money to go to the moon doesn't have money to treat poor people with terrible diseases like cancer. 45 million without health care in the US??? Many people I know simply don't believe it. What? In the US??? Unbelievable!!!
Do you really know what you're getting? Do you know the Standard Benefits package? Of course not. You can't. This is why (from the Act):
"(b) ADOPTION OF STANDARDS.—
1) INITIAL STANDARDS.—Not later than 18
months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall, through the rulemaking process consistent with subsection (a), adopt an initial set of benefit standards."
See. You have no idea what you're buying. Read. It's only 1018 pages long.
One of the first thing the US needs to do is to stop calling it "socialised medicine" since it does seem to be a ploy to stigmatise the idea by making it sound like communism. It's NATIONALISED medicine! You love your military so much, and that's a nationalised service.
Also what most Americans don't seem to think about, is that, like Britain, they can still keep some privatised hospitals for people that can't bear the idea of waiting in line with us normal people.
This is a positiv thing. Believe me. I am from a small country called Norway. We have an absolutely briliant healthcare system. Not without flaws of course. But a system that takes care of everyone. Our hospitals are among the best in the world. Our health care system is not perfekt but it is a hell of allot better that insurance based health systems. Michal moore did a story on it. search for moore an norway.
moore is an idiot! He portrays himself as a documentary writer. In actuality, mr moore is a writer of docudramas. You are right about one thing, though,, moore does write stories, fairy tales.
Today you go to the doctor, if you're diagnosed with a serious illness you discuss treatment with your doctor and you decide how to move forward. Under the Obama plan you stand in front of a Board that will tell YOU how to be treated. On this board will be bureaucrats like a labor union rep (SEIU thug) why would you want to give your life away? You are still free! Snap out of it.
Private Health Insurance Co.s (HIC) and their Rethugliban puppets are doing everything to maintain their POWER over the American People. HIC want to continue SCAMMING us out of our money and DENYING us CARE! Standing BETWEEN YOU and YOUR Doctor, they deny the doctor's prescription if it is expensive, making sure you get the CHEAPEST pill, NOT the MOST EFFECTIVE! HIC executives have ONLY ONE concern: Pay minimum, maximize profit, get HUGE BONUSES!
"Stephen Hemsley, CEO and president of UnitedHealth Group Inc., earned $3.2 million in 2008, a decline of almost $10 million from what he received a year ago"
"In 2007, Hemsley received $8.1 million in options and $3.6 million in incentive pay." - The Minneapolis St Paul Business Journal
To Dems and Obama: Fix Medicare and Medicaid (what you are responsible for today) and then maybe we can trust you with the entire system. It is arrogance beyond belief that you believe you can change something so important, so complex, and so huge all at once. Take this in steps, steps that we can understand.
"A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money."
President Barack Obama said his grandmothers hip-replacement surgery during the final weeks of her life made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a sustainable model for health care. Obama said you just get into some very difficult moral issues when considering whether to give my grandmother, or everybody elses aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when theyre terminally ill.
Death Panel will stop the spending on elderly by rationing care
hell - Remember, in his speech, oblama said, "... I mean, The Chronically Ill & those toward The End of Their Lives..." Are costing tooooooo much money.
If you think a 47yr old President wants to install Death Panels that would force him to commit suicide when he becomes 80yrs old, then I fear for your Common Sense!
sick - He was giving a speech & talking about his grand mother who had fallen and broken her hip. Here's mr olbama's exact quote. He did indicate that he could have paid for her medical bills, but then said the following,,,,"So that's where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that's also a huge driver of costs, Right? I mean the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for, Potentially, 80% of the total health care bill out there"
It is kind of amazing some "people" think health costs are like buying a car or any other commercial proposition (eg: all the insurance co-sponsored posts on Youtube by varying "people"). You can plan to buy a car or a house: it's your own responsibility and your money allocation--but you can't plan a medical affliction. Not the same. I simply note one anti-health plan person on Ytube had her two fave videos as a) a revolver shooting into a tank, and b) a clip of Milton F'man on "Greed". True!!
United Health CEO, Stephen Hemsley, makes $3.2 million/yr. MORE than $100,000/hr. This is NOT about an Entrepreneur who came up with a brilliant, productive idea! Just a Corporate Mafia Boss that buys politicians (esp. RethugliKKKans) and brainwashes people to defend their THEFT, calling it Capitalism! False! NOT Capitalism! This is THEFT! The Entrepreneur I mentioned, is a deserving capitalist. I am ALL for Bill Gates! These CEOs are MURDEROUS BANDITS who DENY us CARE, sending MANY to death!
sick,Your math is a little off.. If he does make 3.2 Million/yr, Then 100,000/hr does not equal 3.2 million/yr. In fact it doesn't equal 3.2 Million per week.
100,000/hr X 40 hr/wk = $ 4,000,000 in a week.
Since you wanted to know,,,,
$3,200,000 per year equals $266,667 per month
$3,200,000 per year equals $ 61,538 per week
$3,200,000 per year equals $ 12,308 per day
And finally,,, $3,200,000 per year equals $1,538 per hour
But DOES HE work 8hrs a day, 5 days a week, like me (and like you have assumed in your calculation)??? I did NOT conjure those figures. Go Google him!
sick - That is a good question. I would say that the answer to your question is NO. No, he probably doesn't work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, like you.
Having been a CEO, I can tell you we never get to work a standard 40 hour week, like you. It would be more like 60 - 75 hours.
Look at this News Headline: "Conservative Activist Gets In Fight At Town Hall, Now Asking For Medical Donations...He Doesn't Have Health Care"
This is the KIND of people we are dealing with here. Sore losers from Nov. 4th, manipulated by Corporate Mafia and G"No!"P into fighting ferociously against THEIR OWN interest just because they hate Obama!
I fear President Obama is misleading the American people down the path to Socialism. Americans are not up to speed about what's at stake, they just hear "free lunch" and say why not? The Administration is compiling an enemies list, Obama does not care about the economy, just the issues he has waited to have; A Democratic House, Senate & Executive Branch of Gov. Don't get on the MOBama hit list. Achtung Citizen. Your mind is the enemy. Knowledge is destructive. Obedience is power
Walk into any US Hospital, you will be treated. You spend your life depending upon lies, disinformation, misrepresentations, false hopes, expectations of the Mother of all "Free Lunches", and last of all, a "Utopia" that exists exclusively somewhere in the dusty corners of your mind and the minds of all who think as you do. Good luck with that. Grab your socks dude, you're gonna' get screwed!
Linda Douglas can take her place in the Dan Rather Hall of Fame.
I do no want!! Obama's version of healthcare reform. I strongly oppose any plan that includes a "Public Option"
Obama has already told several lies like proclaiming no new taxes on people making less than $250,000.00 per year & then he promptly signed a bill into law increasing the tobacco tax. A tax increase for approximately 20 million Americans whose median income is $38,000 per year. He promised no pork & then signed a budget that contained $8.5 billion in pure indisputable pork.
I have the bill on PDF (aval. on internet from the house of rep.) Page 425 does in fact require anAdvance Care Planning Consultation every 5 yrs. It includes living wills and durable
powers of attorney, and their uses. (E) An explanation by the practitioner of the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice, and benefits for such services and supports that are available under this title.
Palliative care (pronounced pal-lee-uh-tiv) is the medical specialty focused on relief of the pain, stress and other debilitating symptoms of serious illness.
Palliative care is not dependent on prognosis and can be delivered at the same time as treatment that is meant to cure you. The goal is to relieve suffering and provide the best possible quality of life for patients and their families.
This America will make your country much much richer and with a much lower diversity between the mid- and low class societies in your country, and even without making the upper high class poorer, so it's a win win situation, whether you denies it or not! The end.
There is ONE reason, ONE reason why A country as Denmark is so rich, well educated and healthy, and that my friends is because of the Danish Welfare! It has proven to be cheaper to get education and Healthcare through welfare and taxes than through private insurance's. This is why Obama is doing the RIGHT THING!
Search on Google and you will find more. What Wendell Potter saw as a PR executive appalled him. "In one recently publicised example, a retired nurse from Texas discovered she had breast cancer. Yet her policy was cancelled because her insurers found she had previously had treatment for acne, which the dermatologist had mistakenly noted as pre-cancerous. They decreed she had misinformed them about her medical history and her double mastectomy was cancelled just three days before the operation."
Socialism: You have two cows. The government takes one of your cows and gives it to your neighbor. You're both forced to join a cooperative where you have to teach your neighbor how to take care of his cow.
enough to make health care reform work. The problem is that Pharmaceutical and Insurance companies are spending millions in ads and misinformation to stop it. These guys don't want their huge profits to be messed with. Couple that with all the lobbyists from those companies trying to influence things and you get the picture.
Obama is breaking Americans with reckless Government growth, spending and takovers of all our precious freedoms. Healthcare needs a tune-up but it's not broke.
On page 425 of the proposed bill, it says that everyone on social security (will include all senior citizens & SSI people) will go to MANDATORY counseling every 5 yrs to learn & to choose from ways to end your suffering (and your life). Yes, they are going to push SUICIDE to cut Medicare spending! Health care will be denied based on age. $500 bil will be cut from seniors healthcare. The only way for that to happen is to drastically cut health care, the oldest and sickest will be cut first.
Hey timmunst, It's creeping death for seniors. What has happened to common sense in this country? Washington is basking in a culture of corruption. Why do Americans lay back and let this happen? For all the blood American Soldiers have spilled to keep this country free, it is us that are letting this happen. There is not enough outrage, they want a handout and they are giving away our freedom for it.
The government that governs least governs best"...right?
dxbomber this country needs health reform to make it affordable for all Americans, but the way this administration is going about it as rushing to pass this government controlled health legislation without anyone knowing the details is totally wrong. If Obama really cared about the uninsured why (1) if/when this health bill is signed, will not take effect to 2013 (2) the $700 billion stimulus bill signed earlier this winter could have had $29 billion set aside to cover the uninsured for a year.
Read the actually bill that the house Dems has drafted up for Obama care. You be shocked. One provision in the bill making it illegal to have your own private insurance. The Dems will never address tort reform because majority of the blood sucking lawyers are liberal Dems themselves.
Health care reform in Washington today isn't about health, or reform. It's about mandating monopoly-priced western medicine for the masses. It's about fining people who wisely opt out of the criminally-operated health insurance industry, and it's designed to keep the American people sick and diseased while emptying their pockets of any remaining earnings they might have somehow squirreled away during the ongoing financial / real estate crash.
You're foolish if you think this plan will be paid for on the backs of the wealthiest Americans. We will ALL be paying our share of this plan. The rich hire teams of accountants to protect their money, so don't be sucked in by this Obama/Pelosi rhetoric.
Not sure where you get your stats or who they're produced by, but I don't hear too many people complaining about their care. I certainly wouldn't want to get sick outside the US.
Talk to your Dems about Tort reform to bring costs back in line.
Obama care folks is really rationalized care. If this is such a great plan how come the clowns in Congress won't drop their plan for this one if it is the best thing for the country. They won't because they know the quality of care will be a joke.
Bigtex501 look what NAFTA has done to the manufacturing in this country and all the jobs that shipped overseas. Obama will, for a fact, send a million more jobs overseas, if the 'Cap and Tax, and health reform get passed. Small businesses (for each I own) will effect me and others by added more cost to our overhead in an already competitive market and a historical recession.Why this bozo (Obama) does not understand it is beyond me.
obamer's obsession is gaining control over us & he'll do anything it takes even if it cost YOU your business!
You may want to study up on companies & small businesses during the Great Depression and find out what they did to servive!
We may ALL need to pull assets as well and have liquid currency just in case of what this clown might do to the economy. The possibility of a full blown depression is near should obamer and the Democrats get their way and drive unemployment beyond 13%!
Too true! Perhaps why there's such a fear of Sarah Palin since she's leaving Alaska? Will Palin be the new Ronald Reagan and blow out the Democrats just as he did with Jimmy Carter?
Needless-to-say, obamer's far worse a disaster than Ole Jimmy Boy! lol
The most scariest thing is Obama will possibly appoint
at least another supreme court judge in the next 3.5 years besides Sotomayor. When this happens the US Constitution Amendment and Bill of Rights can be challenged. Like he said 'Change is coming"! (for the worst for us).
Well, not so fast! In the 2010 mid-term elections... should the GOP take control of The House, they can effectively stop the obamer selections if they stick to their conservative principals!
If not... then obamer might put in another racist judge and we are indeed doomed!!!!!
To put it in simple perspective for the morons that voted for Obama that are for government controlled health care. Take the US Postal Service, pretty simple to deliver mail from one point to another and is run by the government. Yet it is totally mismanaged and continues to lose money every year even with the increase in stamps! And you want them to run the health care system too!
Joeslick65, The US Postal Service is believed to be one of the reasons why the United States became the economic leader of the world early in history. Before there was internet, or even telephones, the US Postal service was the communications infrastructure of the US. Today, UPS and FedEx complement the USPS very well; if you have the chance to ask a FedEx executive what business FedEx is in, he/she will tell you the business of procrastination, not transportation.
The Postal Service may be a factor in the USA's economic growth, but only because they did it, not because they did it well. There are zero examples of government stepping in to make a program more efficient, streamlined and more cost effective. The private sector always builds a better mouse trap because there is incentive. When the gov't is the only provider, where will the competition come from?
If the final reform proposal is controversial enough that it will not receive the necessary 60 votes in the Senate, Democrats have left open the possibility of using a procedural move to pass it with only 51 votes. Do you believe massive changes to such a vital area of American life should be pushed through in this manner with only 51 votes?
Is that giving the people what THEY want, or giving them what YOU want?
If, as you claim, a government-run option is essential to maintaining honest competition in the health insurance market, why is it not also true that we need a government-run competitor in the fast food industry, neighborhood babysitting, or Major League Baseball?
klim8hokes, food industry, major league baseball, and even babysitting are more competitive than the health care industry is. The health care industry (health insurance companies AND hospitals) needs a fundamental shakeup to come back to reality and stop their horrible practices: collusion, rescission, AND predatory collections.
Sorry, when you apply logic and rational thinking, your argument falls apart. Currently, there are over 1500 Health Insurance providers in the US. Adding one more (Obama-care) will not make them more competitive. Health Care isn't competitive because we can't cross state lines to purchase competitive plans and we're stuck with our employer's provider. Give me a tax break to purchase my own anywhere in the country and you'll have true competition. And it won't cost taxpayers a dime.
klim8hokes, there are huge anti-competitive factors in the way insurance companies and hospitals deal. Do you know that as an individual, you get charged 3x (yes, 3 times) as much as a health insurance company gets charged? The only way you can access the discount is through a premium paid to the insurance company. The risk rate you pay however, is based on the full price. This has lead to huge consolidation. This type of price discrimination is illegal under the 1914 Clayton antitrust act.
You tell him freightshaker007! Obama's massive spending policies will cripple the already fragile US economy. 'Cap and Tax' will be the largest tax increase as well as the biggest con in US history (look at the 2 power brokers to makeout GE and Goldman Sach). Energy (especially if you live in a coal generating region), food, goods and service will greatly increase. The 'chosen one' said it himself. Read the bill that passed the House and see how badly everyone will get SCREWED.
hey johnnycash08, at least bush didnt put this country into a socialistic nose dive. the democratic congress started the ride when they took control of the congress in 06. and now that this idiot who calls himself president is in charge, we are screwed in a major way. so get off the bush derangement syndrome. so gimme your next talking point.
the constitution never authorized congress to intervene with healthcare. if this bill passes, there will be people gaining a so called right, and then there will be people who will be responsible for paying for it. these libs gotta be stopped!
You are absolutely correct. The federal government has no say so to intervene with health care, its totally regulated by state to state. The majority of the sheep better start reading the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights because for the first time you have a US President who is going to challenging them and possibly change them.
R.E.F.O.R.M. = "Overconfident British Adopted Model Administration Seeks Here, Except Angry Lines That Health Care Assures Receive Endless Rationing -Even For Ones Refilling Medicines!"
If you think you see long lines now, just wait until Obama Care!
Were screwed. Obama is consolidating power to the Executive Branch. He will turn this country into a Communist Regime. He is destroying the dollar to speed his desire for unprcedented power.
O.B.A.M.A.= "Births All Receive A Certificate Kept; However, Ultimately Skirting Source Entailing Individual's National Origin Brings America Manchurian Anti-capitalist!"
Sarag Palin is a vicious attack bitch who is getting what she deserves. She attacks people and then whines when she gets her own medicine back. Serves her right.
Might want to look at the taxation that happens there as well.
But let's ignore the health care plan that Massachusetts tried that will be much like what obamer's trying. Problem being... now that it's been implimented, only 26% of the people consider their State's health care reform a success!
Do we need to destroy something to find out later when it's too late that it was a horrible idea?
wtf?dont be dumb...do you know what really happened during the arms race? america and russia went bankrupt...or do you think that was reagan the actor that brought the ussr down?...nope! it was their economy dumbass...you wanna wage war when america has a 10 trillion dollars debt to a russian ally...dude who the fuck is suicidal?...open war is bad for countries like usa that why cia staged coups...but now they want to do it on a financial level...you dumb...obama is the man with the plan
I speak from a spectator point of view, Whether we like or dislike any proposals or policies that Obama put forward, there will definetly be opposition. Thats how deomcracy works right? Fair balance of approval and disapproval.
THE KEY PART OF OBAMAS HEALTH CARE: No longer will sick people, folks in rural communities, low-income Americans or with pre-existing conditions be forced to go without coverage. The PUBLIC health insurance plan will be available to EVERYONE. For those struggling to make ends meet, the premiums will be subsidized by the government.
The key to Obama's takeover of the Healthcare system is control. The Govt. doesnt have to worry about making a profit, which gives them a competitive advantage. They can offer healthcare for $1 a month and just bill our children for it(which is what will happen). Insurance companies wont be able to compete, so they will stop offering healthcare making Govt Plan the only game in town. They are already doing this with the "Chevy Volt" offering Tax Incentives for people to buy Chevy over the Ford.
I missed nothing. You missed when he said "This stimulus bill will prevent unemployment from reaching 8%" before it shot past 9 on it's way over 10. You missed when he said "...the worst economy since the Great Depression" repeatedly in Jan. and Feb?(How can you say that, then say "We underestimated") Another one: "This stimulus will "create or save" 3.5 million jobs" and another:"We will create 600K jobs in the next 90 days". We lost 467K jobs in the month since he said that. He's Lying.
Answer the direct questions I asked you above. This technique he's and you are using is called "Throw enough s#$t at the wall and some of it will stick". Thats why the 1200 page bills voted on with less than 2 hours deliberation(How do you feel about that BTW?) "War and Peace" in legalese bills that wind up giving 7 billion to "Sexing Lobsters" etc... that are "emergencies" and "Top Priority"? Next will be C&T, Then Immigration, ALL By Aug. 7th...Why the rush? "Throw enough s#$t at the wall"...
Well, your smart enough to have a sock profile from which to up vote your stupid comments...I'll give you that. The person who posts beneath this comment is a moron.
Smart, Hey, I remember you! In fact, I still have some of the B.S. you spouted before! Maybe I should put some of it up on this blog to see if it IS the same B.S.!
And I can see you resolve issues put before you by calling people names or childish insults!
But we expect that from those that have a hard time supporting obamer! lo
Go ahead.. I don't mind. I know I am consistent with what I believe.. and yes I have been known to bite those who attack me first... so be sure and mention what it was I was responding to while you are at it.
SmartAss, Yes, I'll admit you were consistant.... in being wrong! lol But you were extremely good at repeating left wing talking points and using left wing supporting groups for your facts. But I do admire you for sticking up for what you believe in. But let's continue to enjoy the debates and agreeing to disagree when we need to! It's always fun, right?
As far as I am concerned you and I have nothing more to talk about. The information I have given people regarding health care are facts. I have not seen you produce one shred of evidence to the contrary from a viable source. It makes no difference to me weather you are for it or against it. The people who are for it appreciate the info I give them. You can ignore it for all I care. This is going to happen with or without your input. It's not like you are the deciding factor or anything. lol
IT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY: A for-profit insurer can close, move out of state, or just kick you off their insurance rolls. The PUBLIC health insurance option will ALWAYS be available to provide you with the health security you need.
WELL ALL SAVE A BUNCH OF MONEY: The PUBLIC health insurance options don't have to spend money on CEO bonuses, shareholder dividends, or excessive advertising, so it'll cost a lot less. Plus, the PRIVATE plans will have to lower their rates & provide better value to compete, so people who keep their current PRIVATE insurance will save, too.
HIGH-QUALITY COVERAGE: With YOUR choice of doctors. Government-run plans have a track record of innovating to improve quality, because they're NOT just focused on short-term profits. And if you choose the PUBLIC plans, you'll still get to choose YOUR doctor and hospital.
CHOICES: Americans will be able to CHOOSE BETWEEN their current PRIVATE insurance OR a High-Quality PUBLIC Government-run plan similar to Medicare. If you like your current plan KEEP IT. If you don't—or don't have any—you can get the PUBLIC Government-run plans that cover all Senators in Congress.
If you people don't want the public health care plan then don't sign up for it when it passes.. surely you are all educated enough to realize this is not something that is being forced upon you...
Those who oppose govt run healthcare, please please please protest. I do not want to grow up paying for every mooching asshole who doesn't give a shit about their health. We need to protest. Get involved. find a local organization or start one. Please. The cheap SOBs who eat fast food every day are going to be the first to line up for free surgery.
A dubious claim to be kind. What govt run program doesnt operate at a loss? Name one. 1.
The Fed cant run Amtrak, The Post Office, or anything else, so why all of a sudden so much faith in govt to run Healthcare? The CBO cost #s were so shockingly bad, that The Obama admin. and congress "had to come up with a new way to calulate the costs". This from the people who bring us 12 and 1400 page bills that get voted on with less than 2 hours deliberation. No talking points just common sense please.
WideAwake, Actually they DO have a way to pay for it, but many have forgotten it by now. It's called "VAT" or the National Sales Tax to the tune of 25% ADDED to existing taxes if the Dems have their way. I use the example of a $30,000.00 car....
Purchase... $30,000.00
Add Sales Tax....$32,375.00
Add VAT Tax.... $40,593.00
If you were thinking of buying a car, might want to do it before the VAT tax hits!!!!!!!
Congress plans to raise taxes on higher income families according to House way and means chair Rangel(Tax cheat). The plan to further tax those who make $350K yr to the tune of 675billion over the next 10 years...theres 1/2 of what they say it will cost right there. Expect more wealth redistribution, and Cap & Trade to pay the rest. All of this will be reamended in 2011 after the midterm elections of course but it is scary right now. Sarah Palin has a higher approval rating than congress(43%).
WideAwake, Why is it that everytime I hear something from the Dems on their policies, it's always massive taxation soon to follow?
All but the National Heath Care issue can be repealed is true, but we'll pay a price getting there for sure!
And Palin's #'rs are why you see so much vile comments on her.... she'll soon be passing obamer on approval ratings and the anger will be that much higher as well! lol
And great info on the facts my friend! Might have to use them if you don't mind!
The #s are out there everywhere...Sadly, most Americans just don't care enough to figure out what it means to them. On Capa and Trade, less than 1/2 of all Americans have ever heard of it, yet it will be the largest tax increase in our history, and it's already passed the House. Fox and Bloomberg are good for real news and #s. Gallop on YT is good for polls. AP is "Newsy-News", Last week they ran 100s of MJ videos, and almost no hard news. Don't rely on AP.
WideAwake, Too true, but the "Cap & Trade" phrase was intentional so the Democrats could sneak it through before anyone knew what happened! Just like the "Single Payer" concept... it's just smoke & mirrors to take as much money out of OUR pockets to line their pockets!
Funny thing though... I think these politicians should 1st drop their doctors and for 1 year show us how this "National Health Care" thing works before they cram it down our throats!
evidently there were some republicans who tried to do just that, proposing an amendment to the bill that would require they all use the government run plan. it was of course shot down.
L'AQUILA, Italy (Reuters) - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev warned the United States Friday that if it did not reach agreement with Russia on plans for missile defense systems, Moscow would deploy rockets in an enclave near Poland.
you here this? Obama is back stabbing our allies.
wtf ...you a bitch?...do you think that america or the world need a cold war again ?does america need a another war with the economy in the red?...shut the fuck up ?...does your ignorant ass know what the bay of pigs incident was?...is the same situation but in reverse...fucking fox news bitch
take it easy...billo riley..wtf...you like fox news wanna label the liberal name to sound like refering a to a terrorist...hahahahah...you dumb i dont trust politicians i dont vote...im a progessive...and obama is the man...
Domestic policy can only defeat us; foreign policy can kill us.
- John F Kennedy ( A real Democrat)
Your right, obama should sell us out to the Russians. He already fucking up domestically, he should just let the russians, Iranian, North Koreans, the Chinese just finish us.
who do you think is paying for the wars you wanna wage...do you wanna a nuclear holocaust?america cant beat a small organization like al qaeda...you want to take military forces like iran russia n.korea?..i think you are the suicidal one..never heard of nuclear holocaust?yous a idiot
well, their is a reason why Russia wants us to cut back. President Obama is naive to think these guys will cut back on their own missiles and defense systems.
Obama is showing weakness. Nobody wants war, but at the same time you don't want to show you are weak.
What kind of ridiculous statement is that. The nuclear arms reduction treaty that Reagan implemented is going to expire this year. If we don't have a new one soon it could lead to another arms race. That's not weakness. Just because you don't like Obama doesn't make everything he does stupid. There are certain any US president would do regardless of party and this is one of them.
The Soviet Union and The United States both had generally the same level of military power at the time and it was in both parties interest to cool down the tension.
Now, Russia is nowhere near our military superiority, but they still overwhelm some of our European allies. We should protect our allies first.
Russia will listen to us, not the other way around. With Europe on our side, Russia won't do nothing.
If that's the case, Europe might as well align themselves with Russia and not the USA.
Now I love that in this country anyone to go from rags to riches with hard work, but not everybody can make it... that is just contraditory man...ppl that make it in america are pro athletes actors entretainers entrepeneurs musicians...but you only see those who made it...but about the untold stories of those who didnt reach their goals...that is the reality ...and reagan didnt implement shit nigga was a actor...
:sighs: barkey barkey barkey. all this talk on healthcare and still once again he never gives true specifics but I'm sure they are working on a really nice legislation for this just like with the climate bill and they will sneak in 300 pages at 3:00 am hours before the bill is going on the floor for proposal. Same thing with the Patriot Act all they do is rename it and add more exemptions for them while binding us to some contract that doesn't mean jack. Subsidized healthcare for elderly :sighs:
My grandparents had a successful business a home and even a condo. Grandma got cancer and after a 2 yr battle she passed away.. They had awesome insurance.. but even so they lost everything! Grandpa now works 2 jobs at the age of 87 just to pay rent. If you don't think it can happen to you.. You are dead wrong. 60% of all bankruptcies filed in the US are due to medical bills. We can do better. See my profile for more information and ways in which you can contact your representatives. Thank you.
My personal Doctor told me today when I was at his office said around 50 of his colleagues he sends people to will retired right away cause it will be a nightmare he says he feels sorry for people wants the OBAMA health care comes in says its going to be very very bad.
I really don't understand your comment. If what you are saying is that he told you he plans to send retired people away then I would suggest you get a different doctor. Many doctors and nurses as well as specialists are for the public option.
Obama is slime of the worst kind. He said that the people that need things that cost money will not be made available because they cost money i.e. the good stuff. What the hell is the good stuff? Other then cutting edge technology to help everyone. But only the few with unlimited dollars will be able to afford that medical care. Obama is a failure at all levels. Not one of this bills he introduced is good for American not One! He is nothing more then a puppet for the NWO and there into Eugenics.
The USA has the ... "BEST SPECIALISTS" ... but our Health Care System stinks and is ranked as the Low 37th on a World Scale !! It's like saying "THE USA WON THE MOST GOLD MEDALS IN THE OLYMPICS ... SO THE ENTIRE AMERICAN POPULATION IS MADE OF TOP ATHLETES !!
When in reality we have an overweight & sick ...(cancer~heart diseases~diabetic)... population, compared to other nations. Don't buy into the Right-Wing propaganda.
Obviously you did not read my entire comment. Are you mental? We do have the best specialists however we over all we have one of the worst health care systems in the world.
no america doesnt have the best specialists thats a fact usa import intellectual talent...the main intellectual producing in the us is the mit...but most doctors surgeons are from asia or asian descendents...and about winning medals too much doping up in that bitch...once again specialists on what?...you must not know the world...
Excuse me... I did not say they came from America now did I? They do work here thought right? Get a grip. So they are in fact specialists in America...
It isnt right wingged propaganda when you see people going overseas to get their second opinions and operations/surgeries that would cost 300,000 dollars here you get done in places like india or europe for like 50,000 dollars. something is wrong with that picture. People sick from all kinds of diseases because all they eat is fastfood and they only eat that because all of the other stuff costs more plain and simple.
you making sound like that most specialists are americans...but what kind of specialists are you talking about?...you say you have the best but that is a lie...it is you that need to get a grip...american propaganda...the bigger ...
Wow dude. You're disagreeing just to disagree. The problem with our system is that those who have the money get the best care. Now I love that in this country anyone to go from rags to riches with hard work, but not everybody can make it. The system won't allow for it. So now what makes a successful entrepreneur more entitled to the best available care than someone who wasn't so successful or who got laid off from a decent paying job? Chance??? It's not right.
Obama said in this speech, "My biggest job is to explain to the American people why this is so important."
as youtube user 'awakened1' said, "they insist on treating "free" people like little children, telling us what we need and what we need to do and what to believe and if we question they say we are wrong....big problem with that indeed.. they are sociopathes, hypocrisy at its best"
Yes people. The government has more of a right to your money that you worked for than You do. In the middle of a recession, your hard work will be punished. You will pay for the medical bill of strangers in taxes.. or be taken to jail like a violent offender, federal jail, for tax evasion. Enjoy.
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WoodyMathias 1 year ago
Barak Obama's Health Care Bill... Will you believe in this gov's policy? Come to my tube profile and See precisely why Y0UR opinons are important !!!
Wilone328 1 year ago
Obama's butt has been kicked on his plan for socialized medicine. Don't need to look any further than the senate race in Massachusetts for proof of that.
roscoe85cj 2 years ago
We pay taxes to make out healthcare free and avaliable for everyone .. And we are rated to be the best place to live.
blakkelure 2 years ago
If the public option is dropped, then Healthcare reform is a sham. There is NO WAY to contain costs without it. Without it, reform is the Insurance Company Profit Assurance Act.
theengagement 2 years ago
THE HEALTH CARE PLAN IS LIKE A WOMEN
HAVING BABIES WITHOUT A DADDY, AND THE
FAMILY FOOTING THE BILL.. THEY GO UNder
Explanation: The women is onepayer system, the family,, the taxpayers....The ship is going to
sink.without another support. Im for change
but, not ,pumping .
4567894321 2 years ago
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The Pledge of Allegiance
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
liveoutstanding 2 years ago
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The Pledge of Allegiance
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
liveoutstanding 2 years ago
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Overhauling the nation's health care system is a bad idea... SAY NO!
liveoutstanding 2 years ago
Is western Europe socialist or communist? Well, we all have a National Health Care Service which provides health care to everyone who needs it. Noone here can understand how it is possible that USA, a country that has money to go to the moon doesn't have money to treat poor people with terrible diseases like cancer. 45 million without health care in the US??? Many people I know simply don't believe it. What? In the US??? Unbelievable!!!
tatiana10 2 years ago
He is clueless. He is a LAWYER !!! he don'[t know nothin' about healhcare....Sell yourself to this lawyer. NOT ME !!!
woosailor 2 years ago
Do you really know what you're getting? Do you know the Standard Benefits package? Of course not. You can't. This is why (from the Act):
"(b) ADOPTION OF STANDARDS.—
1) INITIAL STANDARDS.—Not later than 18
months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall, through the rulemaking process consistent with subsection (a), adopt an initial set of benefit standards."
See. You have no idea what you're buying. Read. It's only 1018 pages long.
SeaspineEdu 2 years ago
One of the first thing the US needs to do is to stop calling it "socialised medicine" since it does seem to be a ploy to stigmatise the idea by making it sound like communism. It's NATIONALISED medicine! You love your military so much, and that's a nationalised service.
Also what most Americans don't seem to think about, is that, like Britain, they can still keep some privatised hospitals for people that can't bear the idea of waiting in line with us normal people.
disquietawe 2 years ago
This is a positiv thing. Believe me. I am from a small country called Norway. We have an absolutely briliant healthcare system. Not without flaws of course. But a system that takes care of everyone. Our hospitals are among the best in the world. Our health care system is not perfekt but it is a hell of allot better that insurance based health systems. Michal moore did a story on it. search for moore an norway.
bjoernaldo 2 years ago
moore is an idiot! He portrays himself as a documentary writer. In actuality, mr moore is a writer of docudramas. You are right about one thing, though,, moore does write stories, fairy tales.
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
Without socialized medicine in the UK, Stephen Hawkins, one of the most brilliant minds of our time, would be dead.
But I guess social-darwinists like unkle would prefer it that way.
essayant2 2 years ago
Do you know what Stephen Hawkin's early diagnosis was? I'll wait.
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
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Today you go to the doctor, if you're diagnosed with a serious illness you discuss treatment with your doctor and you decide how to move forward. Under the Obama plan you stand in front of a Board that will tell YOU how to be treated. On this board will be bureaucrats like a labor union rep (SEIU thug) why would you want to give your life away? You are still free! Snap out of it.
hellotommy 2 years ago
Private Health Insurance Co.s (HIC) and their Rethugliban puppets are doing everything to maintain their POWER over the American People. HIC want to continue SCAMMING us out of our money and DENYING us CARE! Standing BETWEEN YOU and YOUR Doctor, they deny the doctor's prescription if it is expensive, making sure you get the CHEAPEST pill, NOT the MOST EFFECTIVE! HIC executives have ONLY ONE concern: Pay minimum, maximize profit, get HUGE BONUSES!
They DON'T CARE whether we DIE as a result.
SickOfPunditsOnTV 2 years ago
"Stephen Hemsley, CEO and president of UnitedHealth Group Inc., earned $3.2 million in 2008, a decline of almost $10 million from what he received a year ago"
"In 2007, Hemsley received $8.1 million in options and $3.6 million in incentive pay." - The Minneapolis St Paul Business Journal
SickOfPunditsOnTV 2 years ago
sick - However, using your math, mr hemsley would only need to work 32 Hours a year to earn his 3.2 Million Dollar Salary.
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
Health care for the ill,
insurance for the poor.
Good luck Mr Obama!
drtleft 2 years ago
Nicely worded mate!
Thood618 2 years ago
To Dems and Obama: Fix Medicare and Medicaid (what you are responsible for today) and then maybe we can trust you with the entire system. It is arrogance beyond belief that you believe you can change something so important, so complex, and so huge all at once. Take this in steps, steps that we can understand.
"A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money."
hellotommy 2 years ago
President Barack Obama said his grandmothers hip-replacement surgery during the final weeks of her life made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a sustainable model for health care. Obama said you just get into some very difficult moral issues when considering whether to give my grandmother, or everybody elses aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when theyre terminally ill.
Death Panel will stop the spending on elderly by rationing care
hellotommy 2 years ago
hell - Remember, in his speech, oblama said, "... I mean, The Chronically Ill & those toward The End of Their Lives..." Are costing tooooooo much money.
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
Unkleb...
stop SHAMELESSLY misquoting the POTUS!
If you think a 47yr old President wants to install Death Panels that would force him to commit suicide when he becomes 80yrs old, then I fear for your Common Sense!
SickOfPunditsOnTV 2 years ago
sick - He was giving a speech & talking about his grand mother who had fallen and broken her hip. Here's mr olbama's exact quote. He did indicate that he could have paid for her medical bills, but then said the following,,,,"So that's where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that's also a huge driver of costs, Right? I mean the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for, Potentially, 80% of the total health care bill out there"
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
cont - And if you listen to some of his other speeches, he wants to take, the earned health care, away from seniors and give it to younger people.
If you don't believe me, just read his speeches.
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
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It is kind of amazing some "people" think health costs are like buying a car or any other commercial proposition (eg: all the insurance co-sponsored posts on Youtube by varying "people"). You can plan to buy a car or a house: it's your own responsibility and your money allocation--but you can't plan a medical affliction. Not the same. I simply note one anti-health plan person on Ytube had her two fave videos as a) a revolver shooting into a tank, and b) a clip of Milton F'man on "Greed". True!!
seriousnews2 2 years ago
United Health CEO, Stephen Hemsley, makes $3.2 million/yr. MORE than $100,000/hr. This is NOT about an Entrepreneur who came up with a brilliant, productive idea! Just a Corporate Mafia Boss that buys politicians (esp. RethugliKKKans) and brainwashes people to defend their THEFT, calling it Capitalism! False! NOT Capitalism! This is THEFT! The Entrepreneur I mentioned, is a deserving capitalist. I am ALL for Bill Gates! These CEOs are MURDEROUS BANDITS who DENY us CARE, sending MANY to death!
SickOfPunditsOnTV 2 years ago
sick,Your math is a little off.. If he does make 3.2 Million/yr, Then 100,000/hr does not equal 3.2 million/yr. In fact it doesn't equal 3.2 Million per week.
100,000/hr X 40 hr/wk = $ 4,000,000 in a week.
Since you wanted to know,,,,
$3,200,000 per year equals $266,667 per month
$3,200,000 per year equals $ 61,538 per week
$3,200,000 per year equals $ 12,308 per day
And finally,,, $3,200,000 per year equals $1,538 per hour
See... You were only off by $98,461 / Hr
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
Good Try!
But DOES HE work 8hrs a day, 5 days a week, like me (and like you have assumed in your calculation)??? I did NOT conjure those figures. Go Google him!
SickOfPunditsOnTV 2 years ago
sick - That is a good question. I would say that the answer to your question is NO. No, he probably doesn't work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, like you.
Having been a CEO, I can tell you we never get to work a standard 40 hour week, like you. It would be more like 60 - 75 hours.
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
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BWA HA HA HA HAAAA....AAAAA..UUH!
Look at this News Headline: "Conservative Activist Gets In Fight At Town Hall, Now Asking For Medical Donations...He Doesn't Have Health Care"
This is the KIND of people we are dealing with here. Sore losers from Nov. 4th, manipulated by Corporate Mafia and G"No!"P into fighting ferociously against THEIR OWN interest just because they hate Obama!
SickOfPunditsOnTV 2 years ago
Who spammed this man? Cos he speaks the truth?
Richierua 2 years ago
I fear President Obama is misleading the American people down the path to Socialism. Americans are not up to speed about what's at stake, they just hear "free lunch" and say why not? The Administration is compiling an enemies list, Obama does not care about the economy, just the issues he has waited to have; A Democratic House, Senate & Executive Branch of Gov. Don't get on the MOBama hit list. Achtung Citizen. Your mind is the enemy. Knowledge is destructive. Obedience is power
hellotommy 2 years ago
I am not looking for a free lunch and I support the plan.
I also am educated enough to know the difference between propaganda and truth.
stop watching just Fox News and listening to Rush Limbald for your info.
replytodummy 2 years ago
Walk into any US Hospital, you will be treated. You spend your life depending upon lies, disinformation, misrepresentations, false hopes, expectations of the Mother of all "Free Lunches", and last of all, a "Utopia" that exists exclusively somewhere in the dusty corners of your mind and the minds of all who think as you do. Good luck with that. Grab your socks dude, you're gonna' get screwed!
Linda Douglas can take her place in the Dan Rather Hall of Fame.
Change It Back!
hellotommy 2 years ago
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I do no want!! Obama's version of healthcare reform. I strongly oppose any plan that includes a "Public Option"
Obama has already told several lies like proclaiming no new taxes on people making less than $250,000.00 per year & then he promptly signed a bill into law increasing the tobacco tax. A tax increase for approximately 20 million Americans whose median income is $38,000 per year. He promised no pork & then signed a budget that contained $8.5 billion in pure indisputable pork.
crusades0917 2 years ago
To spend billions upon billions killing millions upon millions in Iraq/Afghan
seems to be acceptable.
But try spending the same amount saving lives, alleviating pain and suffering at home and everybody starts shouting "socialist"
America, you had everything, and yet it wasnt enough.
Neilbe1066 2 years ago 2
I have the bill on PDF (aval. on internet from the house of rep.) Page 425 does in fact require anAdvance Care Planning Consultation every 5 yrs. It includes living wills and durable
powers of attorney, and their uses. (E) An explanation by the practitioner of the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice, and benefits for such services and supports that are available under this title.
Rationing creeping death for the elderly.
hellotommy 2 years ago
Palliative care (pronounced pal-lee-uh-tiv) is the medical specialty focused on relief of the pain, stress and other debilitating symptoms of serious illness.
Palliative care is not dependent on prognosis and can be delivered at the same time as treatment that is meant to cure you. The goal is to relieve suffering and provide the best possible quality of life for patients and their families.
replytodummy 2 years ago
This America will make your country much much richer and with a much lower diversity between the mid- and low class societies in your country, and even without making the upper high class poorer, so it's a win win situation, whether you denies it or not! The end.
casperkaels 2 years ago
There is ONE reason, ONE reason why A country as Denmark is so rich, well educated and healthy, and that my friends is because of the Danish Welfare! It has proven to be cheaper to get education and Healthcare through welfare and taxes than through private insurance's. This is why Obama is doing the RIGHT THING!
casperkaels 2 years ago
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Search on Google and you will find more. What Wendell Potter saw as a PR executive appalled him. "In one recently publicised example, a retired nurse from Texas discovered she had breast cancer. Yet her policy was cancelled because her insurers found she had previously had treatment for acne, which the dermatologist had mistakenly noted as pre-cancerous. They decreed she had misinformed them about her medical history and her double mastectomy was cancelled just three days before the operation."
takingcookies1 2 years ago
Socialism: You have two cows. The government takes one of your cows and gives it to your neighbor. You're both forced to join a cooperative where you have to teach your neighbor how to take care of his cow.
hellotommy 2 years ago
A country like the USA is more than resourceful
enough to make health care reform work. The problem is that Pharmaceutical and Insurance companies are spending millions in ads and misinformation to stop it. These guys don't want their huge profits to be messed with. Couple that with all the lobbyists from those companies trying to influence things and you get the picture.
tatlas 2 years ago
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2 Videos on Youtube to watch: 1) The Health Care Bill: What they DON'T want you to know!
2) wethepeopleUSA2012 (see the video posted there)
wethepeopleUSA2012 2 years ago
Please watch this Youtube Video: The Health Care Bill: What they DON'T want you to know!
wethepeopleUSA2012 2 years ago
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Time to call/ write/ email all our Senators to stop their vote on this.
United States Senate - (202) 224-3121
Let's put the pressure on AND KEEP IT ON and not stop until they vote this one down!
To find your senators phone number
w w w ( dot) senate (dot) gov /genera l/resources /pdf/ senators _ phone _l ist. pdf
(Type in without spaces)
timmunst 2 years ago
Obama is breaking Americans with reckless Government growth, spending and takovers of all our precious freedoms. Healthcare needs a tune-up but it's not broke.
hellotommy 2 years ago 2
On page 425 of the proposed bill, it says that everyone on social security (will include all senior citizens & SSI people) will go to MANDATORY counseling every 5 yrs to learn & to choose from ways to end your suffering (and your life). Yes, they are going to push SUICIDE to cut Medicare spending! Health care will be denied based on age. $500 bil will be cut from seniors healthcare. The only way for that to happen is to drastically cut health care, the oldest and sickest will be cut first.
timmunst 2 years ago
Hey timmunst, It's creeping death for seniors. What has happened to common sense in this country? Washington is basking in a culture of corruption. Why do Americans lay back and let this happen? For all the blood American Soldiers have spilled to keep this country free, it is us that are letting this happen. There is not enough outrage, they want a handout and they are giving away our freedom for it.
The government that governs least governs best"...right?
Thats an Americanism TJefferson
hellotommy 2 years ago
another man said when facisim comes to america, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.
Richierua 2 years ago
A government run healthcare system is financially unstable.
ObamaCare is not the solution.
Unfortunately, the national dialogue on this issue is partisan and polarized.
One side is looking at their wallet and the other side is trying to grab the wallet.
This is another example of Obama's massive takeover of the private sector economy.
timmunst 2 years ago
dxbomber this country needs health reform to make it affordable for all Americans, but the way this administration is going about it as rushing to pass this government controlled health legislation without anyone knowing the details is totally wrong. If Obama really cared about the uninsured why (1) if/when this health bill is signed, will not take effect to 2013 (2) the $700 billion stimulus bill signed earlier this winter could have had $29 billion set aside to cover the uninsured for a year.
joeslick65 2 years ago
i'm one of millions of people that don't have health care and this plan will help people like who can't afford it.
dxbomber 2 years ago
Read the actually bill that the house Dems has drafted up for Obama care. You be shocked. One provision in the bill making it illegal to have your own private insurance. The Dems will never address tort reform because majority of the blood sucking lawyers are liberal Dems themselves.
joeslick65 2 years ago
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Health care reform in Washington today isn't about health, or reform. It's about mandating monopoly-priced western medicine for the masses. It's about fining people who wisely opt out of the criminally-operated health insurance industry, and it's designed to keep the American people sick and diseased while emptying their pockets of any remaining earnings they might have somehow squirreled away during the ongoing financial / real estate crash.
wilsonpwt 2 years ago
Yes let's preserve the wealth of the top 1%!
USA #37 (in health care)!
Keep those health care bankruptcies flowing.
I don't know about you, but I sure enjoy paying 16% of our GDP to health care versus Sweden's 8%. Keep the money flowing.
essayant2 2 years ago
You're foolish if you think this plan will be paid for on the backs of the wealthiest Americans. We will ALL be paying our share of this plan. The rich hire teams of accountants to protect their money, so don't be sucked in by this Obama/Pelosi rhetoric.
Not sure where you get your stats or who they're produced by, but I don't hear too many people complaining about their care. I certainly wouldn't want to get sick outside the US.
Talk to your Dems about Tort reform to bring costs back in line.
Smurfy0617 2 years ago
Obama care folks is really rationalized care. If this is such a great plan how come the clowns in Congress won't drop their plan for this one if it is the best thing for the country. They won't because they know the quality of care will be a joke.
joeslick65 2 years ago
Health care is like driving a privilege,if you cant afford it,get a higher paying job,I dont want obamacare.
xj2yzz 2 years ago
we are close to achiving serious healthcare reform! support us! check out the5dollarrevolution-dot-com and sign our petition!
dejalennox 2 years ago
its always BO's priority to tax the rich and increase the debt
7337djm 2 years ago
733,
Too true, but by taxing the rich
The rich will....
Take their business out of the United States
Increase the costs of the goods/services they provide
Lower the quality of goods/services
Avoid creating new businesses & hiring new employees
Lay off workers to adjust for increasing costs
Close their business adding to unemployment
(Or best yet)... lobby & donate to the politicians to get FULL tax breaks or kickbacks for supporting them (ie. G.E., Goldman Sacks, etc.)!
bigtex501 2 years ago
Bigtex501 look what NAFTA has done to the manufacturing in this country and all the jobs that shipped overseas. Obama will, for a fact, send a million more jobs overseas, if the 'Cap and Tax, and health reform get passed. Small businesses (for each I own) will effect me and others by added more cost to our overhead in an already competitive market and a historical recession.Why this bozo (Obama) does not understand it is beyond me.
joeslick65 2 years ago
Joe,
obamer's obsession is gaining control over us & he'll do anything it takes even if it cost YOU your business!
You may want to study up on companies & small businesses during the Great Depression and find out what they did to servive!
We may ALL need to pull assets as well and have liquid currency just in case of what this clown might do to the economy. The possibility of a full blown depression is near should obamer and the Democrats get their way and drive unemployment beyond 13%!
bigtex501 2 years ago
bigtex501 that's if the Republicans get some frenking balls and don't play dead like they are doing now.
joeslick65 2 years ago
Joe,
Too true! Perhaps why there's such a fear of Sarah Palin since she's leaving Alaska? Will Palin be the new Ronald Reagan and blow out the Democrats just as he did with Jimmy Carter?
Needless-to-say, obamer's far worse a disaster than Ole Jimmy Boy! lol
bigtex501 2 years ago
The most scariest thing is Obama will possibly appoint
at least another supreme court judge in the next 3.5 years besides Sotomayor. When this happens the US Constitution Amendment and Bill of Rights can be challenged. Like he said 'Change is coming"! (for the worst for us).
joeslick65 2 years ago
JoeSlick,
Well, not so fast! In the 2010 mid-term elections... should the GOP take control of The House, they can effectively stop the obamer selections if they stick to their conservative principals!
If not... then obamer might put in another racist judge and we are indeed doomed!!!!!
bigtex501 2 years ago
Onlyrey the biggest roadblock Obama will have in forcing government health care is the 10th Amendment of the US Constitution.
joeslick65 2 years ago
To put it in simple perspective for the morons that voted for Obama that are for government controlled health care. Take the US Postal Service, pretty simple to deliver mail from one point to another and is run by the government. Yet it is totally mismanaged and continues to lose money every year even with the increase in stamps! And you want them to run the health care system too!
joeslick65 2 years ago
Joeslick65, The US Postal Service is believed to be one of the reasons why the United States became the economic leader of the world early in history. Before there was internet, or even telephones, the US Postal service was the communications infrastructure of the US. Today, UPS and FedEx complement the USPS very well; if you have the chance to ask a FedEx executive what business FedEx is in, he/she will tell you the business of procrastination, not transportation.
onlyrey 2 years ago
The Postal Service may be a factor in the USA's economic growth, but only because they did it, not because they did it well. There are zero examples of government stepping in to make a program more efficient, streamlined and more cost effective. The private sector always builds a better mouse trap because there is incentive. When the gov't is the only provider, where will the competition come from?
klim8hokes 2 years ago
U.S. health care has and will always be garbage. It's not going to change ever
I don't even know why they waste so much time pretending like they are going to do anything
they need to go back to fixing the economy
I'm sure most of us are accustomed to not having health care by now
TheStoicAgnostic 2 years ago
If the final reform proposal is controversial enough that it will not receive the necessary 60 votes in the Senate, Democrats have left open the possibility of using a procedural move to pass it with only 51 votes. Do you believe massive changes to such a vital area of American life should be pushed through in this manner with only 51 votes?
Is that giving the people what THEY want, or giving them what YOU want?
klim8hokes 2 years ago
If, as you claim, a government-run option is essential to maintaining honest competition in the health insurance market, why is it not also true that we need a government-run competitor in the fast food industry, neighborhood babysitting, or Major League Baseball?
klim8hokes 2 years ago
klim8hokes, food industry, major league baseball, and even babysitting are more competitive than the health care industry is. The health care industry (health insurance companies AND hospitals) needs a fundamental shakeup to come back to reality and stop their horrible practices: collusion, rescission, AND predatory collections.
onlyrey 2 years ago
Sorry, when you apply logic and rational thinking, your argument falls apart. Currently, there are over 1500 Health Insurance providers in the US. Adding one more (Obama-care) will not make them more competitive. Health Care isn't competitive because we can't cross state lines to purchase competitive plans and we're stuck with our employer's provider. Give me a tax break to purchase my own anywhere in the country and you'll have true competition. And it won't cost taxpayers a dime.
klim8hokes 2 years ago
klim8hokes, there are huge anti-competitive factors in the way insurance companies and hospitals deal. Do you know that as an individual, you get charged 3x (yes, 3 times) as much as a health insurance company gets charged? The only way you can access the discount is through a premium paid to the insurance company. The risk rate you pay however, is based on the full price. This has lead to huge consolidation. This type of price discrimination is illegal under the 1914 Clayton antitrust act.
onlyrey 2 years ago
You tell him freightshaker007! Obama's massive spending policies will cripple the already fragile US economy. 'Cap and Tax' will be the largest tax increase as well as the biggest con in US history (look at the 2 power brokers to makeout GE and Goldman Sach). Energy (especially if you live in a coal generating region), food, goods and service will greatly increase. The 'chosen one' said it himself. Read the bill that passed the House and see how badly everyone will get SCREWED.
joeslick65 2 years ago
hey johnnycash08, at least bush didnt put this country into a socialistic nose dive. the democratic congress started the ride when they took control of the congress in 06. and now that this idiot who calls himself president is in charge, we are screwed in a major way. so get off the bush derangement syndrome. so gimme your next talking point.
freightshaker007 2 years ago
Wow take it easy. It's not like Bush was any better.
JohnnyCash08 2 years ago
the constitution never authorized congress to intervene with healthcare. if this bill passes, there will be people gaining a so called right, and then there will be people who will be responsible for paying for it. these libs gotta be stopped!
freightshaker007 2 years ago
You are absolutely correct. The federal government has no say so to intervene with health care, its totally regulated by state to state. The majority of the sheep better start reading the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights because for the first time you have a US President who is going to challenging them and possibly change them.
joeslick65 2 years ago 2
O.B.A.M.A.'S.
H.E.A.L.T.H.
C.A.R.E.
R.E.F.O.R.M. = "Overconfident British Adopted Model Administration Seeks Here, Except Angry Lines That Health Care Assures Receive Endless Rationing -Even For Ones Refilling Medicines!"
If you think you see long lines now, just wait until Obama Care!
Acronym77 2 years ago
(I would like to do my acronymic phrases for a poster/T-shirt company that supports right-wing causes..... If you're out there, let me know.)
Acronym77 2 years ago
LOL I love the phases. The best one out there and says it all
O-ne B-ig A-ss M-istake A-merica
and the morons that voted for him are starting to realize it.
joeslick65 2 years ago
It's unbelievable that this bozo is basically going to destroy America and the rest of the sheep just follow along and kiss his ass.
joeslick65 2 years ago
His highest priority is destroying this country: on this he is very very close to achieving. Wow
sprife142 2 years ago
Were screwed. Obama is consolidating power to the Executive Branch. He will turn this country into a Communist Regime. He is destroying the dollar to speed his desire for unprcedented power.
fortsmith1 2 years ago
D.I.C.T.A.T.O.R.S.H.I.P. = "Democrats Introduce Centralized, Tyrannical Administration's Takeover Obviously Restructuring Societal Hierarchy In Power-grab!"
B.A.R.A.C.K.
H.U.S.S.E.I.N.
O.B.A.M.A.= "Births All Receive A Certificate Kept; However, Ultimately Skirting Source Entailing Individual's National Origin Brings America Manchurian Anti-capitalist!"
O.B.A.M.A.
C.A.R.E. = "Obama's Blind Aficionados 'Missed Appointment'!
'Cancelled Appointment' Regards 'Eyesight'!
Acronym77 2 years ago
Plus she is just plain stupid!!
chinacat22 2 years ago
Sarag Palin is a vicious attack bitch who is getting what she deserves. She attacks people and then whines when she gets her own medicine back. Serves her right.
chinacat22 2 years ago
S.A.R.A.H.
P.A.L.I.N. = "See A Real American Housewife's Patriotism Adored Lately In Nation!"
Acronym77 2 years ago
Every other Western Nation and Japan and Australia all have single payer and it works fine. Single Payer NOW!!
chinacat22 2 years ago
China,
Might want to look at the taxation that happens there as well.
But let's ignore the health care plan that Massachusetts tried that will be much like what obamer's trying. Problem being... now that it's been implimented, only 26% of the people consider their State's health care reform a success!
Do we need to destroy something to find out later when it's too late that it was a horrible idea?
bigtex501 2 years ago
wtf?dont be dumb...do you know what really happened during the arms race? america and russia went bankrupt...or do you think that was reagan the actor that brought the ussr down?...nope! it was their economy dumbass...you wanna wage war when america has a 10 trillion dollars debt to a russian ally...dude who the fuck is suicidal?...open war is bad for countries like usa that why cia staged coups...but now they want to do it on a financial level...you dumb...obama is the man with the plan
buakawkaoklai 2 years ago
NO NO NO, we don't need rationing in this country! Go tu Cuba with your health care fix!
BlueSkies360 2 years ago
I speak from a spectator point of view, Whether we like or dislike any proposals or policies that Obama put forward, there will definetly be opposition. Thats how deomcracy works right? Fair balance of approval and disapproval.
texas224 2 years ago
THE KEY PART OF OBAMAS HEALTH CARE: No longer will sick people, folks in rural communities, low-income Americans or with pre-existing conditions be forced to go without coverage. The PUBLIC health insurance plan will be available to EVERYONE. For those struggling to make ends meet, the premiums will be subsidized by the government.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
The key to Obama's takeover of the Healthcare system is control. The Govt. doesnt have to worry about making a profit, which gives them a competitive advantage. They can offer healthcare for $1 a month and just bill our children for it(which is what will happen). Insurance companies wont be able to compete, so they will stop offering healthcare making Govt Plan the only game in town. They are already doing this with the "Chevy Volt" offering Tax Incentives for people to buy Chevy over the Ford.
wideawake123 2 years ago
Actually I guess you missed the part where he said it has to be deficit free...
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
I missed nothing. You missed when he said "This stimulus bill will prevent unemployment from reaching 8%" before it shot past 9 on it's way over 10. You missed when he said "...the worst economy since the Great Depression" repeatedly in Jan. and Feb?(How can you say that, then say "We underestimated") Another one: "This stimulus will "create or save" 3.5 million jobs" and another:"We will create 600K jobs in the next 90 days". We lost 467K jobs in the month since he said that. He's Lying.
wideawake123 2 years ago
I was focused on health care not the stimulus after all that is what this video is about.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
At which point in this video about health care did he say that?
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
Answer the direct questions I asked you above. This technique he's and you are using is called "Throw enough s#$t at the wall and some of it will stick". Thats why the 1200 page bills voted on with less than 2 hours deliberation(How do you feel about that BTW?) "War and Peace" in legalese bills that wind up giving 7 billion to "Sexing Lobsters" etc... that are "emergencies" and "Top Priority"? Next will be C&T, Then Immigration, ALL By Aug. 7th...Why the rush? "Throw enough s#$t at the wall"...
wideawake123 2 years ago
@ smartassawhip, You aren't smart at all.
wideawake123 2 years ago
And yet I am smarter than you... except for in the subject of dogs mating habits.. you have pretty much cornered that market. lol
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
Well, your smart enough to have a sock profile from which to up vote your stupid comments...I'll give you that. The person who posts beneath this comment is a moron.
wideawake123 2 years ago
Smart, Hey, I remember you! In fact, I still have some of the B.S. you spouted before! Maybe I should put some of it up on this blog to see if it IS the same B.S.!
And I can see you resolve issues put before you by calling people names or childish insults!
But we expect that from those that have a hard time supporting obamer! lo
bigtex501 2 years ago
Go ahead.. I don't mind. I know I am consistent with what I believe.. and yes I have been known to bite those who attack me first... so be sure and mention what it was I was responding to while you are at it.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
SmartAss, Yes, I'll admit you were consistant.... in being wrong! lol But you were extremely good at repeating left wing talking points and using left wing supporting groups for your facts. But I do admire you for sticking up for what you believe in. But let's continue to enjoy the debates and agreeing to disagree when we need to! It's always fun, right?
bigtex501 2 years ago
As far as I am concerned you and I have nothing more to talk about. The information I have given people regarding health care are facts. I have not seen you produce one shred of evidence to the contrary from a viable source. It makes no difference to me weather you are for it or against it. The people who are for it appreciate the info I give them. You can ignore it for all I care. This is going to happen with or without your input. It's not like you are the deciding factor or anything. lol
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
SmartAss, Ahhhhh, did I hit a nerve again with you. Well, I'll be sure to leave you alone since you can't handle it.
But you can also rid yourself of me by not commenting on what I say... thought I'd help ya out there! lol
PS.. and yes, I am a deciding factor! lol
bigtex501 2 years ago
IT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY: A for-profit insurer can close, move out of state, or just kick you off their insurance rolls. The PUBLIC health insurance option will ALWAYS be available to provide you with the health security you need.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
WELL ALL SAVE A BUNCH OF MONEY: The PUBLIC health insurance options don't have to spend money on CEO bonuses, shareholder dividends, or excessive advertising, so it'll cost a lot less. Plus, the PRIVATE plans will have to lower their rates & provide better value to compete, so people who keep their current PRIVATE insurance will save, too.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
HIGH-QUALITY COVERAGE: With YOUR choice of doctors. Government-run plans have a track record of innovating to improve quality, because they're NOT just focused on short-term profits. And if you choose the PUBLIC plans, you'll still get to choose YOUR doctor and hospital.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
CHOICES: Americans will be able to CHOOSE BETWEEN their current PRIVATE insurance OR a High-Quality PUBLIC Government-run plan similar to Medicare. If you like your current plan KEEP IT. If you don't—or don't have any—you can get the PUBLIC Government-run plans that cover all Senators in Congress.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
If you people don't want the public health care plan then don't sign up for it when it passes.. surely you are all educated enough to realize this is not something that is being forced upon you...
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
Those who oppose govt run healthcare, please please please protest. I do not want to grow up paying for every mooching asshole who doesn't give a shit about their health. We need to protest. Get involved. find a local organization or start one. Please. The cheap SOBs who eat fast food every day are going to be the first to line up for free surgery.
JacobRainey08 2 years ago
Have you not heard that this will in no way add to the deficit? You have nothing to worry about.
watch?v=xwd6OTNnrdo
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
A dubious claim to be kind. What govt run program doesnt operate at a loss? Name one. 1.
The Fed cant run Amtrak, The Post Office, or anything else, so why all of a sudden so much faith in govt to run Healthcare? The CBO cost #s were so shockingly bad, that The Obama admin. and congress "had to come up with a new way to calulate the costs". This from the people who bring us 12 and 1400 page bills that get voted on with less than 2 hours deliberation. No talking points just common sense please.
wideawake123 2 years ago
WideAwake, Actually they DO have a way to pay for it, but many have forgotten it by now. It's called "VAT" or the National Sales Tax to the tune of 25% ADDED to existing taxes if the Dems have their way. I use the example of a $30,000.00 car....
Purchase... $30,000.00
Add Sales Tax....$32,375.00
Add VAT Tax.... $40,593.00
If you were thinking of buying a car, might want to do it before the VAT tax hits!!!!!!!
bigtex501 2 years ago
Congress plans to raise taxes on higher income families according to House way and means chair Rangel(Tax cheat). The plan to further tax those who make $350K yr to the tune of 675billion over the next 10 years...theres 1/2 of what they say it will cost right there. Expect more wealth redistribution, and Cap & Trade to pay the rest. All of this will be reamended in 2011 after the midterm elections of course but it is scary right now. Sarah Palin has a higher approval rating than congress(43%).
wideawake123 2 years ago
WideAwake, Why is it that everytime I hear something from the Dems on their policies, it's always massive taxation soon to follow?
All but the National Heath Care issue can be repealed is true, but we'll pay a price getting there for sure!
And Palin's #'rs are why you see so much vile comments on her.... she'll soon be passing obamer on approval ratings and the anger will be that much higher as well! lol
And great info on the facts my friend! Might have to use them if you don't mind!
bigtex501 2 years ago
The #s are out there everywhere...Sadly, most Americans just don't care enough to figure out what it means to them. On Capa and Trade, less than 1/2 of all Americans have ever heard of it, yet it will be the largest tax increase in our history, and it's already passed the House. Fox and Bloomberg are good for real news and #s. Gallop on YT is good for polls. AP is "Newsy-News", Last week they ran 100s of MJ videos, and almost no hard news. Don't rely on AP.
wideawake123 2 years ago
WideAwake, Too true, but the "Cap & Trade" phrase was intentional so the Democrats could sneak it through before anyone knew what happened! Just like the "Single Payer" concept... it's just smoke & mirrors to take as much money out of OUR pockets to line their pockets!
Funny thing though... I think these politicians should 1st drop their doctors and for 1 year show us how this "National Health Care" thing works before they cram it down our throats!
I've got money on obamer NOT doing that!
bigtex501 2 years ago
evidently there were some republicans who tried to do just that, proposing an amendment to the bill that would require they all use the government run plan. it was of course shot down.
P5Y0P 2 years ago
Prove the Gov can run Medicare properly then we can talk about overall health care.
jenisoutofhermind 2 years ago
Obama is a dumb ass.
L'AQUILA, Italy (Reuters) - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev warned the United States Friday that if it did not reach agreement with Russia on plans for missile defense systems, Moscow would deploy rockets in an enclave near Poland.
you here this? Obama is back stabbing our allies.
TheLiberalssuckdick 2 years ago
wtf ...you a bitch?...do you think that america or the world need a cold war again ?does america need a another war with the economy in the red?...shut the fuck up ?...does your ignorant ass know what the bay of pigs incident was?...is the same situation but in reverse...fucking fox news bitch
buakawkaoklai 2 years ago
This is expected from you. Liberals are suicidal.
go watch CNN ( Communist News Network) you fucking little bitch ass.
TheLiberalssuckdick 2 years ago
im not a liberal just a person with common sense motherfucker...
buakawkaoklai 2 years ago
yup... That's what all the liberals say.
TheLiberalssuckdick 2 years ago
take it easy...billo riley..wtf...you like fox news wanna label the liberal name to sound like refering a to a terrorist...hahahahah...you dumb i dont trust politicians i dont vote...im a progessive...and obama is the man...
buakawkaoklai 2 years ago
Domestic policy can only defeat us; foreign policy can kill us.
- John F Kennedy ( A real Democrat)
Your right, obama should sell us out to the Russians. He already fucking up domestically, he should just let the russians, Iranian, North Koreans, the Chinese just finish us.
Your right. Like I said, Liberals are suicidal.
TheLiberalssuckdick 2 years ago
dude what the fuck and who the fuck are you..?
who do you think is paying for the wars you wanna wage...do you wanna a nuclear holocaust?america cant beat a small organization like al qaeda...you want to take military forces like iran russia n.korea?..i think you are the suicidal one..never heard of nuclear holocaust?yous a idiot
buakawkaoklai 2 years ago
well, their is a reason why Russia wants us to cut back. President Obama is naive to think these guys will cut back on their own missiles and defense systems.
Obama is showing weakness. Nobody wants war, but at the same time you don't want to show you are weak.
TheLiberalssuckdick 2 years ago
What kind of ridiculous statement is that. The nuclear arms reduction treaty that Reagan implemented is going to expire this year. If we don't have a new one soon it could lead to another arms race. That's not weakness. Just because you don't like Obama doesn't make everything he does stupid. There are certain any US president would do regardless of party and this is one of them.
davidebx99 2 years ago
The Soviet Union and The United States both had generally the same level of military power at the time and it was in both parties interest to cool down the tension.
Now, Russia is nowhere near our military superiority, but they still overwhelm some of our European allies. We should protect our allies first.
Russia will listen to us, not the other way around. With Europe on our side, Russia won't do nothing.
If that's the case, Europe might as well align themselves with Russia and not the USA.
TheLiberalssuckdick 2 years ago
Now I love that in this country anyone to go from rags to riches with hard work, but not everybody can make it... that is just contraditory man...ppl that make it in america are pro athletes actors entretainers entrepeneurs musicians...but you only see those who made it...but about the untold stories of those who didnt reach their goals...that is the reality ...and reagan didnt implement shit nigga was a actor...
buakawkaoklai 2 years ago
:sighs: barkey barkey barkey. all this talk on healthcare and still once again he never gives true specifics but I'm sure they are working on a really nice legislation for this just like with the climate bill and they will sneak in 300 pages at 3:00 am hours before the bill is going on the floor for proposal. Same thing with the Patriot Act all they do is rename it and add more exemptions for them while binding us to some contract that doesn't mean jack. Subsidized healthcare for elderly :sighs:
shenmueryu 2 years ago
My grandparents had a successful business a home and even a condo. Grandma got cancer and after a 2 yr battle she passed away.. They had awesome insurance.. but even so they lost everything! Grandpa now works 2 jobs at the age of 87 just to pay rent. If you don't think it can happen to you.. You are dead wrong. 60% of all bankruptcies filed in the US are due to medical bills. We can do better. See my profile for more information and ways in which you can contact your representatives. Thank you.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
My personal Doctor told me today when I was at his office said around 50 of his colleagues he sends people to will retired right away cause it will be a nightmare he says he feels sorry for people wants the OBAMA health care comes in says its going to be very very bad.
Docthewrench 2 years ago
I really don't understand your comment. If what you are saying is that he told you he plans to send retired people away then I would suggest you get a different doctor. Many doctors and nurses as well as specialists are for the public option.
watch?v=2UFKuPwIjXM
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
Obama is slime of the worst kind. He said that the people that need things that cost money will not be made available because they cost money i.e. the good stuff. What the hell is the good stuff? Other then cutting edge technology to help everyone. But only the few with unlimited dollars will be able to afford that medical care. Obama is a failure at all levels. Not one of this bills he introduced is good for American not One! He is nothing more then a puppet for the NWO and there into Eugenics.
2xtream 2 years ago
The USA has the ... "BEST SPECIALISTS" ... but our Health Care System stinks and is ranked as the Low 37th on a World Scale !! It's like saying "THE USA WON THE MOST GOLD MEDALS IN THE OLYMPICS ... SO THE ENTIRE AMERICAN POPULATION IS MADE OF TOP ATHLETES !!
When in reality we have an overweight & sick ...(cancer~heart diseases~diabetic)... population, compared to other nations. Don't buy into the Right-Wing propaganda.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
says who, Michael Moore?
You fags, if you think Cuba can do better, I want to see you go next time you get fucking hurt. Go to Mexico and get a quick fix.
Fucking morons. Next time you visit a clinic or hospital in Cuba and leave the rest of us alone. fuckers
informationauth 2 years ago
you a bitch...hope you get your uninsured and see what is like...fucking bitch
buakawkaoklai 2 years ago
the best specialists ..?wtf...are you mental...only if it is the best specialists on eating fast food contest?
buakawkaoklai 2 years ago
Obviously you did not read my entire comment. Are you mental? We do have the best specialists however we over all we have one of the worst health care systems in the world.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
no america doesnt have the best specialists thats a fact usa import intellectual talent...the main intellectual producing in the us is the mit...but most doctors surgeons are from asia or asian descendents...and about winning medals too much doping up in that bitch...once again specialists on what?...you must not know the world...
buakawkaoklai 2 years ago
Excuse me... I did not say they came from America now did I? They do work here thought right? Get a grip. So they are in fact specialists in America...
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
It isnt right wingged propaganda when you see people going overseas to get their second opinions and operations/surgeries that would cost 300,000 dollars here you get done in places like india or europe for like 50,000 dollars. something is wrong with that picture. People sick from all kinds of diseases because all they eat is fastfood and they only eat that because all of the other stuff costs more plain and simple.
shenmueryu 2 years ago
you making sound like that most specialists are americans...but what kind of specialists are you talking about?...you say you have the best but that is a lie...it is you that need to get a grip...american propaganda...the bigger ...
the better...wtf
buakawkaoklai 2 years ago
No.. You came up with that on your own. I am talking about health care specialists duh.. You make no sense.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
Wow dude. You're disagreeing just to disagree. The problem with our system is that those who have the money get the best care. Now I love that in this country anyone to go from rags to riches with hard work, but not everybody can make it. The system won't allow for it. So now what makes a successful entrepreneur more entitled to the best available care than someone who wasn't so successful or who got laid off from a decent paying job? Chance??? It's not right.
davidebx99 2 years ago 2
Obama said in this speech, "My biggest job is to explain to the American people why this is so important."
as youtube user 'awakened1' said, "they insist on treating "free" people like little children, telling us what we need and what we need to do and what to believe and if we question they say we are wrong....big problem with that indeed.. they are sociopathes, hypocrisy at its best"
NoCussingClub 2 years ago
And to the American people who are already in agreement with him, goes a false sense of superiority over those who disagree.
deathbyluxury 2 years ago
I like to get good stuff without paying for it! thank you Mr President!
vilissin 2 years ago
wow I bet he's popular in Italy, seeing as he's so European-minded
ReservedRealist 2 years ago