Health Care Reform Bill Explained As A Summer Picnic

[michp38]

It really looks like a nice picnic but what is the cost? I imagine its quite high. So what about the people that cant afford it? They dont want govt. competition because they cant compete too well. What about pre existing conditions? Health insurances are reluctant to give insurance to someone thats sick. If they do, it will be pricey. Our present health care world wide is 37th. France who is number one has socialized medicine.

[JasonGorr]

how can Americans be so dumb.....

[basspig]

Insurance companies in CT are raising their premiums 18-21% at the end of this year due to the increased burden of having to cover preexisting condition patients and the loss of risk management based premiums. So this is how the new Healthcare system makes insurance more affordable to people.

Imagine if we applied this to wreckless drivers: all drivers pay the same rate, regardless of DUI or clean driving record. Oh wait, Obama might try that next..

[Recovermin]

The public option does not negate the ability to secure treatment at a privatized medical facility. Q.E.D, it is a public OPTION. Derp. One star 4 u :(

[KalimaShaktide]

Source for the claims please.

[DrMu5tCh3at2W1n]

wow this is childish...

[basspig]

The problem with government-paid anything is that it is paid for by extortion (the threat of the initiation of force against individuals). Obama Healthcare, specifically, will drive good doctors out of the business to more lucrative fields. Forcing everyone to buy insurance is immoral. There are so many things wrong with this plan.

The only moral purpose of government is to protect individual rights.

[memama2]

basspig ...any viable insurance companies will SLAM THEIR DOORS! ...if obamacare is about to unfold. They are not about to have every penny they saved go to dying drunks who all will sign up for a new liver ...& every chain smokin old geezer demanding a new set of lungs & the after care that goes with it! All on private companies LAST dimes? Or as "owebummer" sees fit to EDICT to them now! ... the best doctors will just retire and only see a few CA$H patients & not bow to baama robbin em blind

[basspig]

@memama2 The system is ripe for abuse, and, as structured, creates new dependencies on government, a major goal of government officials. After all, if we're all self-responsible, we wouldn't even need a government. So it's a vicious cycle.. new tax laws create more poverty, causing more people to need government healthcare, which leads to more taxes and resulting poverty, which the government rejoicefully declares "we need MORE government!" and the cycle continues until everything crashes.

[Pomme843]

@basspig Excuse me? The last craches I can think of have been creations of the free market. Disregarding the famine in North Korea

[basspig]

@Pomme843 Incorrect. The crash of '29 was the direct result of manipulation of the banking system by the newly-created Federal Reserve. Only a government-triggered crash can be nationwide. Natural market forces limit any damage to small markets and geographically local areas only.

[Pomme843]

@basspig And what of 2008? A global crash, how was that gov't-triggered? Seems to me it was just those banks, Freddie Mac and Fannie May or something like that, which made fools of themselves and dragged the housing/real-estate businesses down with it, was it not so? And all of these were private, 'sfar as I know

[basspig]

@Pomme843 Uh, Freddie and Fannie are GOVERNMENT-run banks. And the lending crisis was caused by government-mandated reduction of lending standards, which caused banks to write many bad loans. Sure, the banks took that and ran with it, but in a world where the government steals, why would anyone in the private sector feel motivated to do any better?

[IrinaNOLA]

I am very happy that the bill finally passed . I am a self- employed artist, I never had any medical insurance, and go to emergency any time I get seriously sick, finally I'll be able to see a doctor before situation becomes an emergency.... SMALL BUSINESSES ARE EXAMPT FROM ANY NEW EXPENSES - so, the only 'loosers" are the very rich people/big corporations - I DO NOT MIND THAT AT ALL! THANKS, DEMOCRATS! Merry Christmas to yall!

[clayguy33]

Garbage. I am 41 years old, I work 60 hours a week, and I cannot afford health care. Your propaganda is hurting America.

[MegaFr33dom]

bkraz333,

It is not an OPTION for me if I work for you and you change my plan and I lose my doctor. If it is cheaper for you as a business owner that is fine. Of course the public options will be cheaper. The government can always undercut the private sector because they can print money. Eventually, every biz will leave the private sector option and only the public option will be left, which is what the Left wing wants, That is not a very good OPTION!

[bkraz333]

It's a public OPTION. You'll still be able to choose to overpay for terrible health care with your current health insurance plan. I am a small business owner, and I really want a public option, which I believe will cost less since I will not be paying the insurance companies' profits. If the public option ends up costing more, then I will stick with private insurance -- no big deal.