S.E.G. 3D REPRESENTATION

[Bullshitfinder1]

Do you know, that if you shove a neodymium magnet up your ass, you will shoot out electrons instead of spinning shit.

[MrAwsome514]

My favorite bit about the SEG is how Searl claims to have made his first one 60 years ago using neodymium magnets and yet... The neodymium iron boron compound that neodymium magnets are made of was not invented untill 1982. Before that Neodymium was only used in making special glass... That was not even remotely magnetic.

[zzytrewq]

I use a SEG device to heat my unicorn pens. Saved me a fortune in electricity bills. I was going to sell copies on eBay but government agents stole all my plans.

[jib1000]

SEG = worn out rusty mess.

FAIL

[danc222]

CERN just held a press conference - they said they feel rather embarrassed about using so many kilometres of space and billions of dollars to smash atoms given the fact the SEG can do it in a few square metres. The SEG can also allow them to do their experiments at any time in history - thus preventing black hole dangers. The spokesman also said the SEG can cure male pattern baldness and increase sex appeal - they were very excited

[sinoalpha]

SEG is just a joke.

[turbovectorz]

S.E.G. may not work as is. However, I firmly believe certain insights like the vortex effects of plasma could be part of a working device. For example, certain superconducting materials causing an energy flux vortical effects to reduce"the affects of gravity are already known published facts Dr. Ning Li and Eugene Podkletnov.

[VoltisArt]

@turbovectorz Oil reduces the effects* of friction...it doesn't, however, make the engine turn over. That's the job of exploding gasoline. Efficiency is awesome and whatever we can do to obtain it is good and well, but efficiency doesn't run machines, energy input does.

* - grammar counts when you're trying to make a point! Effects affect us. Affects do not effect us.

[jnelson983]

OK Flowerbower what C.I.A. directorate do you work for are you in the main building or one of the outter ones, your attack on Mr. Searl and one backed up with good graphics tells me you are well funded. Americans are tired of the shadow Government interfering in the affairs of the people, on Judgement day the books will be open all those who's names are not found in the book of life are thrown into the lake of fire, that includes those who commit false witness for a paycheck.

jnelson

[akinnon2000]

Could everyone cut the crap and EXPLIAN why it would not work ? All I read are childish comments filled with sarcasm, insinuations, insults etc, but no facts.

There is sacha4you that talk about a 2nd thermodynamic law violated.... could someone explain instead of bitching and moaning ?

[flowerbower]

The laws of thermodynamics ARE facts in that they are obeyed at every physical scale (even the quantum mechanical) and have no known exceptions. Therefore, nobody knowledgeable will even begin to engage in sensible conversation with Searl until he offers proof which meets scientific standards of evidence. And he can never do that, because the whole thing is a scam.

[dividebyN]

With pleasure !!! Putting it simply, 1).The mass of an electron= 9.10938188 × 10-31 kilograms, so, IF searl was correct and there was an effect of pulling electrons from the air/dirac sea/aether etc etc, the device would GAIN MASS (IF IT PULLED ELECTRONS FROM ANYWHERE)!!!!!! BANG goes the levitating fly through the roof theory!!! 2) neodymium is a TRI-VALENT atomic structure. The atom is in a nuclearly bound state. There are no unpaired electrons to take on or release others. Hope this helps.

[jnelson983]

Hello

Don't it seem strange that devices that threaten the Military Industial Complex get debunked publicly like this 3D lie about John Searl's device this Lie is designed by phycologists to prevent you from experimenting in your garage with Mr. Searl's motor concepts and possible showing that at least part of what Mr. Searl has said is backed up by truth,

[flowerbower]

And isn't it equally strange, jnelson, that 'experimenters' have been trying to extract boundless energy from magnets for hundreds of years without lasting* success?

* Some HAVE been successful in 'selling' fake machines to suckers (even to a famous scientist in one case) but they always get caught in the end. That will be the inevitable fate of Searl.

[dsjaggers]

Right. So, now we have a free energy generator. That in itself makes it the greatest device ever made by man. And, it heals and flys. Absolutely astounding! I eagerly await the Golden Age upon which we are about to enter. Who wouldn't want to have free power, the ability to fly, and to be healed at the same time, all for around $1000? Please do hurry to production Dr. Searl. The wait is almost unbearably burdensome. Still, you have our undying gratitude for your selfless contribution to humanity

[ableluv]

Very cool graphics but...In 1946 John built this thing with very very limited raw materials and even less understanding of what he was doing. 2009 over 60 years later we still have a concept machine that doesn't work in public of which the working model can only be realized with more of your money for research. Hmmm Should I say any more? Ok I know Albert Einstein visualized a lot of his stuff. But at least he knew what he was day dreaming about. Professor? Hahaha...cough, cough!

[sacha4you]

ableluv, do you have the brass to compare Einstein with Searl, that charlatan and self-proclaimed professor with an pathetic affinity for military organisation?

Einstein delivered a well founded, water-proof and VERIFYABLE theory (SR/GR) while Searl's writings consist of a bunch of utter nonsense anctdotical stories with zero information and wrong interpretations of (well proven) physical laws. Nobody on earth ever saw

the Searl effect, but the guy started to sell books and DVDs.

;-))

[nickle57]

".In 1946 John built this thing with very very limited raw materials and even less understanding of what he was doing"

Uhh no he did not. You say he did. I say he did not. Here we are over 60 years later and he has nothing to show for it. If I said my grandfather built a car that gets 1000mpg you would probably want to know why I know drive a car that gets less than 40mpg. You would have every right to not believe me and everyone has a legitimate reason to not believe you or searl.

[ableluv]

I wish you would read my comments carefully. It seems you missed the slight sarcasm in them. lighten up people this is all bull anyway. I understand that as much as you do. Nothing like a little controversy to bring out the real facts an figures. Thank you for your comments as my comments have done their job ;-)

[nickle57]

Sarcasm is hard to determine in these Searl videos. You would think most of what Searl says about the SEG would be tongue in check, but he is dead serious. BTW my grandfather did build a 1000mpg car. The reason I don't drive it is because he filled up his tank 15 years ago and was never heard from again. lol

[Belanthony2]

I'm confused

What was it?

[sacha4you]

Belanthony2, that's a perpetuum mobile of the second kind [one of the impossible machines, that violates 2nd law of thermodynamics] , that creates two things for sure: Huge amonts of false hopes (maybe 50 m·kg/s) and belief-energy (I guess 100MWh/day or so).

;-))

[Belanthony2]

Thanks

;)

[JEIWILBER]

Does anybody know how many energy it produce ???

Voltage an ampere ???

Is there any aplication of it ???

[knightwhosayni1]

SEG produces a lot of energy. Probably something about 1x10^1500 V and 1x10^1000000 A. Seg is now used in fairytales.

[yegreskin]

The great thing about the imagination is that it can make an SEG produce increasing amounts of energy over time. That is, if "Energy" equals the money in the form of investors' money.

Even a small SEG can produce 3x29^17*25^5/7 energy packets per day per day.

[sacha4you]

yegreskin, I guess, you forgot the belief-energy. I think, every SEG (even in a video) can produce at least 100MWh/day of it. This mindboggling amount is far enough to syphon out the wallets of many, easy believing investors. So magic- and perpatual motion machine 'inventors' (quotes intended) will never die out.

;-))

[MrAwsome514]

@knightwhosayni1 Searl claims the device can put out 1.5 gigawatts... Leaves me wondering why he would need to recruit investors to fund his "research" when he could simply sell the electricity he claims the prototype produces and be making $4,320,000 a day based on the average cost of electricity in the US in april of 2009. Which ofcourse leaves the question of why he has never even tried to sell the electricity. The only answer is that there really is none to sell.

[whoarethebrainpigs]

@JEIWILBER yeah,, voltage =0  current=0 ,,,application=0...bullshit=17­8,234,256,GVe.

[thiswebsiteesux]

You are all idiots, this design isn't intended to be a "generator" (eg. Electrical Generator). It is an unwitting attempt at a vortex generator it's half baked it's, a half a concept for an igv (inverse gravity vehicle) engine, or as you'd call it a ufo. Good luck figuring it out. PS. Google: Physics you might wanna learn it.

[PositiveKinetik]

Do you think our galaxy obeys the 'laws of thermodynamics'? Our solar system? Our universe? Do you think the 'laws of thermodynamics' are a scientific paradigm = to a past paradigm of say, 'the earth is flat', or 'humans can't build machines that fly through the air and carry other humans in them'? Is your mind open? Is your mind closed?

[fizzguts]

Quote "Do you think our galaxy obeys the 'laws of thermodynamics'? Our solar system? Our universe?"

Yes of course and attempt to avoid the 1st 2nd and third in the macro and to the micro leads to impossibilities.

A question for you. Do you have any idea what the 1st 2nd and 3rd laws are and how to derive them?...............Ah thought not

Is you mind open or is it just an empty echoing space?

[fizzguts]

Quote "i dont believe that the laws of thermodynamics are absolute" Then you are a complete idiot. The laws can be derived for any system and cannot be avoided. Any avoidance of the 1st 2nd and 3rd results in unstable systems that will disappear (Even faster than the money is into Searl's scam.)

[nickle57]

Using your time and others people's money building something that physics says will not work, is 1000 worse than using your time making fun of said inventor. Taking money away from actual inventions that work is a crime that should punishable. However with all the Searl goofballs it is hard to kill this moronic blind hunt for free energy.

PS. I laughed at the video. Good work.

[knightwhosayni1]

I have only spent 2 hours on it. If i've spent this time in my job i would have earn only 13$ :( So it isn't a lot of money and i'm happy that this animation made someone laugh :)

[toamaori]

dang $6.50 an hour thats illegal in this country....

[DROINDS]

I bet you haven't even built one of these machines or tried to make something to help mother earth. You are using your free time ridicule somebody else effort to contribute to the human kind and the next generation.

[toamaori]

without references and research showing why it will not work... this video is meaningless

[flowerbower]

toamaori: do you realise that, to list all of the references to published research which proves directly or indirectly that Searl cannot make this work, would take several years and require filling-in the 'comments limit exceeded' code many tens of thousands of times?

In any case, it is Searl's obligation to provide proof, since he is the one claiming to have found an exception to well-established physical laws.

[toamaori]

i dont believe that the laws of thermodynamics are absolute and that there are still things we will discover, with that belief in mind it gives the opportunity to explore the limits and boundaries of our known science, without that direction, such concepts will never be explored materialised through creative imagination. for now the rules of thermodynamics may be bent, but we dont know enough yet to break them. to say that we will never break them is as silly as saying the world is flat

[toamaori]

besides which there have been no updates so we can all drop dr. searl and move on i mean honestly what are you going to gain from talking about something that never worked? you wont learn anything from it will you? its just an opportunity to posture and feel important and right? if people wanna search for free energy, what does it matter to you? use your energy in a positive way...

[flowerbower]

"Those who forget the past are doomed to re-live it". It is important to hammer away at pseudoscience wherever and whenever it is found. Stalin once took up the ideas of a crackpot and ruined Russian agriculture for a generation or more. Don't forget, our 'leaders' are laymen when it comes to science. One American senator has already suggested that extracting energy from water should be made 'part of policy' (see Voodoo Science).

[flowerbower]

That is, of course, true in the philosophical sense. But real exceptions are not going to be found by those who do not understand thermodynamics in the first place, they are not going to be gross enough to be detectable/demonstrable by crude apparatus, and one can be damned sure that their discovery will not be reported on YouTube in preference to Nature!

[Beamshipcaptain]

Why not spend your efforts on solving our energy and propulsion-issues, gentlemen? But that takes intelligence, and I see a complete absence of any here.

[flowerbower]

Yes indeed, let us do everything possible to warn the Thais not to waste their limited resources on Searl's scam. Might I suggest a writing campaign directed at leading Thai scientists?

[knightwhosayni1]

Maybe there is something like "Thai Academy of Sciences" or something?

[flowerbower]

If one takes the name on the front of Searl's Thai headquarters, and Googles it, one finds a real Thai organisation which is involved in space research. I bet that THEY would like to know about activities which are likely to bring their efforts into disrepute.

[Beamshipcaptain]

I mean do some work of your own to help our energy-situation, with new and improved techniques and technologies, but I guess thats like asking a bear to use a toilet. You have not displayed any building or even any science-skills.

[flowerbower]

How do you know that I haven't displayed any building skills? Half of the magnetic free-energy clips could be my hoaxes; posted with the sole intention of exposing the gullible.

As for science skills: spotting pseudoscience is the only one required here.

[Beamshipcaptain]

Fine call out pseudo science. BUT, you can also use your science-knowledge and skills to help solve our energy-problems, and to wean off our addiction to petroleum. There are many solutions you can be working on with your wonderful mind God gave you!

[flowerbower]

Did you know that the only valid definition of an 'ore' is an economic one? That is, the Cornish tin-mines are worked-out. BUT, if other sources fail, there will be new tin mines in Cornwall. It is the same with petroleum: at the moment, it is cheaper to get it out of the ground. Eventually, the Lurgi process will become economically viable. And when the coal runs out as well? Synthesis of fuel from the basic elements will take over. The key factor is energy: nuclear (fission or fusion) energy.

[abmz1970]

by the way jonh searl proyect it really work's I feel sorry about people that don't have a open mind.

[flowerbower]

How do you know that it works? Because he and his pals, shills and mindless followers say so? Sucker. (BTW, I have an old bridge in Brooklyn that I am trying to sell. Interested?)

[knightwhosayni1]

I have: spaceship, time machine, car that runs on water, cloning machine, overbalanced wheel and free energy generator - and guess what? All of this things works perfectly, but i'm not showing them to anyone because of worldwide conspiracy of evil scientist and oil companies. And aliens.

[flowerbower]

You forget to mention the Illuminati; they will be very annoyed at that, and possibly let your tyres down!

[knightwhosayni1]

Yes! Of course, the illuminati. How could i forgot about them :D They are probably now locating my bicycle :)

[flowerbower]

I think that they probably already knew where it was! No detail is too small for such a huge conspiracy. In the UK, anybody who buys anything from W.H.Smith is automatically ... Hang on, there is somebody at my door already, it may be them. I may be gone some time ...

[flowerbower]

No here i is complettly the same an entirely redy to tolk about that nice Mr Searle who id certianly a genus in his oun liffetime.

[tooosweeet]

Well I have all those things and(!) I am developing production versions.

The oil companies might suppress me soon, but my devices are amazing and good for all humanity especially you. Unfortunately, I still need 3.14 billion dollars in order to start full production and save humanity.

To better protect myself against suppressors and ensure the security of investments -- I've decided to move to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

Shocking updates are coming when I'm safely relocated.

[m3sca1]

why did you waste my bandwidth with such a closed minded statement?

[flowerbower]

That's rich: just look at how much you waste with your crackpot demonstrations. Sure, they are mildly interesting, but stop trying to pretend that they portend 'new science'.

[m3sca1]

Its not new-William Nicholson is credited with the discovery of electrolysis around 1795.And the earliest patent of a car running on it 1932.Pretending and doing are 2 different things.

[flowerbower]

Of course one can run a car on water, by electrolysis and exploding the gases, but only with a net loss in energy. So, it would make more sense to use the batteries to propel the car directly, and forget the bogus 'runs on water' claim. What WOULD the lunatic fringe do without 'water power' and 'magnet power'.

[m3sca1]

LMAO-wot would you do without alternators that feed power to your house?These things work on magnetism-Hangon...should i say Lunatic magnet power?BTW HHO gas implodes.

[flowerbower]

You know very well that I was referring to those who think that magnets themselves are sources of infinite energy. And what can you do with a fictitious gas?

[m3sca1]

What fictitious gas would that be?Lunatic GAS?

[flowerbower]

HHO. I can remember being given the student project of calculating the 'energy landscape' of 2 free hydrogen atoms (i.e. 'nascent' hydrogen). This showed that, if nascent hydrogen exists at all, it is unstable (unless perhaps adsorbed on a surface). The presence of oxygen would not change anything. So, yes, lunatic-gas is a good name; it is believed in only by Brown-worshippers and the like.

[dlondon1144]

Magnets are not sources of infinite energy, true. But they are deep, finite reservoirs of energy, nonetheless. What do you think it is that attracts ferrous metal to them? Good looks?

I have a magnet here in my office strong enough to hold a paperback book to my filing cabinet. That requires energy, my friend. What makes you think it cannot be harvested?

Don't be so small minded.

[flowerbower]

There is potential energy in the field of the magnet holding your book. If you removed the book, that potential energy could be converted (with suitable apparatus) into other - usable - forms of energy. Then what? No matter how you move the magnet around, you will never achieve any nett gain in total energy (conservative field). Also, the magnet itself is energetically unstable. Given enough time, it will demagnetise and slowly release the energy which had originally been used to make it.

[flowerbower]

Don't be so small-minded; open it to the possibility that all of those boring physics textbooks might be right and that all of those brave experimenters haunting the internet are complete idiots, with only a 16th century understanding of magnets.

[dlondon1144]

The boring old textbooks were written by people being paid to keep us tied to expensive meter-able energy.

Einstein himself said there is enough energy in the volume of a teacup to boil all the seas. It isn't magic. It isn't even free. But it IS there, waiting to be harvested. We just have to find the right method.

[flowerbower]

What a strange paranoid world you live in. I have written such textbooks, but I am still paying the same utility bills as everyone else, and the only people who paid me were the ones who bought the books. Victorian gentlemen were in awe of the amount of heat-energy said to be in their drawing-rooms. It was unexploitable (no sink, or too low a density). Hermann Bondi calculated ...

[flowerbower]

(continued) calculated that we could have limitless power by gradually shrinking the Earth. But how does one shrink a planet? So, calculating an energy content is not the same as being able to exploit that energy. Funny, isn't it? We scientists were the ones who told you about ZPE in the first place, and yet we would be the last ones to agree with your odd beliefs about it.

[flowerbower]

I see that you are an American 'working for your church' in the UK. I wonder, is that the 'church' of scientology, or possibly that of 'latter-day saints'?

[knightwhosayni1]

Both churches were described in "South park" :) I suspect church of $cientology - being a $cientologist requires level of stupidity typical of free-energy believers.

[flowerbower]

That would be my bet as well.

Er, why has my Youtube screen suddenly gone all Polish?

[dlondon1144]

Were raised to be this rude? What justifies your cheapening this further by casting aspersions and calling my religion into the argumemnt? Do you think you're scoring points? Friend, you've just invalidated everything you've said by tipping your bigotted hand. You aren't interested in scientific truth. You just want to pick fights. Well, I am not interested in your childish games. Go sharpen your crayons, kid and leave the big people alone.

[flowerbower]

Yes, when it comes to scam-artists and their supporters. Are you sure that it is a religion, and not just a cult? you seem to be reluctant to name it. Do do believe in a 'book of gold' or in disembodied alien minds? BTW, the difference between a cult and a religion is simply that a religion is a cult which has grown big enough to influence politicians. You do not seem to exude the confidence which is imbued by the ancient religions. I would guess that you are too used to arguing with hecklers.

[flowerbower]

My apologies. My spies tell me that the Church in Scotland is more of a sect than a cult. Nevertheless, you have to understand that spouting nonsense about magnets, to a physicist, is as offensive as questioning religious tenets. In fact, it is more offensive since the scientist always has proof to support his current beliefs.

[flowerbower]

Hey, this is interesting: all of these comments are being given the thumbs-down. But I wonder how many of those doing the voting actually understand the comments!

[tooosweeet]

Bardzo dokładny :O :O :O może być także źródłem szczęścia (they needed another animation I think).

[knightwhosayni1]

Wietnamczyk mówiący po polsku? Czyżbyś sprzedawał na stadionie dziesięciolecia? :P

[flowerbower]

Olimpijski Londyn 2012 i Beamshipcaptain wciąż będzie czekać na SEG! Ha Ha Ha!

[flowerbower]

Mamy nowa gra. Każdy wyrok niepoczucia (lubią wasz) miał zawierać Beamshipcaptain! Geddit?

[knightwhosayni1]

Jednakowoż BScaptain niewiedzącym wiele o codzienności pseudonaukowcem być się wydaje.

[flowerbower]

Który jest TAK prawda o BS-Captain!

[flowerbower]

Dể làm phiền Beamshipcaptain!

[flowerbower]

To był przypuszczalne być Vietnamese

[tooosweeet]

toi dong y , ban co xem bai gan day nhat cua beamshipcaptain ? ong ta doi` hoi? Searl sang' che ra nhung nam cham dat' hiem' ....ong ta la 1 ke? ngoc :))

[flowerbower]

Tôi hy vọng mà phải là sự vô nghĩa! BS-Captain kaput?

[knightwhosayni1]

It is snowing in Poland :)

[flowerbower]

Mój hydraulik nie jest szczęśliwy!

[flowerbower]

Bardzo zabawny!