So once the land is restored to palestinians and Jews are deprived of statehood so people think there will be peace in the world? Will the world not create the same problem where a multitude of people (jews) will be stateless? I wish the world luck with the notion of multi culturalism- a doomed concept indeed.
why didn't Palestine's created a state for themselves from 1947-1967 when the west bank was in their control , why don't they demand Jordan because it was part of roman Palestine ?
The world is full of nations that have been "settled" (meaning an indigenous population was overrun). It amazes how people seems to pretend that Israel is special in this regard. What!!, Israel is occupying other people’s land??!! How unusual. Cont ...
@JaymoeSays ... I'm Australian, and the reality is if Aboriginals all of a sudden took up arms and rockets and started attacking whites we would fight back. And technically, they would be in the right because we took their land. Right or wrong, we would still defend ourselves and fight back.
@TheLansoprazole - Until Israel is on the Map of the world there will Never be Peace. Remove Israel today and We Will get Peace Tonight in the World.
Israel has to be on the world map so as to keep the muslim united. If Israel is wipe out, the muslim will be divided and starts killing one another. So please allow Israel to be on the world map so as to keep muslims to be in unity. "Guaranteed"
if you really think that Israel is a legitimate state because the great great great- grandfathers of the Jews lived in that land for a period of time, then you would have to knowledge that America, Australia and New Zealand are illegitimate countries, because they have no ancestor in those lands, before they were taken from the natives by force!!!
Most of the westerns are hypocrites for supporting such an illegal occupation, so they better wakeup and straighten their policies
Israel is losing support so rapidly because ppl are seeing beyond its lies....it's desperately funding far-right movements in Europe and the West in a last-ditch attempt to divide christians and muslims. If this attempt fails then its future is absolutely dark. Time to end the occupation
Some idiots here are pointing the finger of blame solely on Israel while saying nothing about the Palestinian terrorists who since 2000 have launched 8600 rockets into Israel.
@MustafaZia4382 The fact that Israeli casualties have been low is certainly not from a lack of trying on Palestinians' behalf. If Hamas and their lowlife supporters could they'd be sending in suicide bombers on a daily basis.
@macnos which is deplorable. but under international law your retalliation must be fairly equal to the attacks. 11 israelis have been killed by 10,ooo rockets. terrorism is wrong, but collective punishment is contrary to geneva conventions. it is a war crime
@maxfedor1 Yes, collective punishment is wrong and illegal whenever Israel uses it but people tend to focus an inordinate amount of time on Israeli wrongdoings but there really isn't that much debate when Hamas or Hizbullah fire rockets from populated areas knowing full well that the IDF will retaliate or when they use human shields.
@macnos terrorism of anykind is wrong.it took the western press over 30 years to start showing both sides of conflict. if any side cause was focused on for an inordinate time it would of been Israels. but the solution is not to argue whose worse but for a strong international contingent to settle the score. and the US is npt part of the solution, their record of rejectionism is deplorable. peace
4:50 - "if you take away the occupation, the problem goes away" - before operation cast lead, Israel evacuated completely from Gaza, including all settlements and all military presence. Moments later, the Hamas began a relentless bombardment of the surrounding Israeli cities which, despite numerous diplomatic approaches by Israel, only ended once Cast Lead began. So no, evacuating does not remove the problem, it only empowers and emboldens the terrorists.
0:50 - "Suicide bombing is a result of the occupation" - this is false. The Palestinian aggression began from the very 1st day Israel was given its independence by England in 1948 when THEY declared war. And none of Israel is occupied because THERE WAS NEVER A PALESTINIAN STATE!! If there is no state, how can it be occupied?? Winston Churchil gave the indigenous Arab people Palestine the entire territory of Jordan. It is the Jordanians who refuse to accept the Palestinian refugees in Israel.
Jews are racist. Israel is a racist state and we should not recognize it as a Jewish state... because that is allowing them to be racists hateful people... they should get back to Europe or the US or somewhere else.
A characteristic of westeners and Jews is to equate the perputrator of crime with its victim. In this scenario the Palestians and Israelis are NOT equal partners in crime. The european Jews of Israel are living on land that has been STOLEN from their rightfull owners i.e. the Palestians. Israeli's are not just racist war criminals, they're also thieves and falsifiers of history.
How do you start toward peace the racist woman asks? stop being a damn racist and stop oppressing an entire people..try that for starts as if you don;t really know why
Too, its disgusting how all christians blindly support Israel and its biased due to their Torah which is written by the Jews..I have no respect for Christians who cover over what Jews do..They view goyems as their servants.. disgusting
So typical of Jews ,..they love to twist things ..lets not call it racism? lol another word? how ridiculous. Judaism is a racist religion simple and true
This issue cannot be solved because both sides believe they are right, to the core. There is no compromise between the two, you seen comments here saying "Death to all Jews" or "Death to Europeans" as well as Zionist comments. If this issue is going to be solved it has to be done peacefully. Fact
@ryanvids1 I think I remember some polls suggesting about 2/3rds or so on both sides support a two state solution. It seems a big part of the problem is that neither side believes the other to be sincere. On the one hand, Israel has from the beginning supported a two state solution, and when for example they offered Arafat the whole of Gaza and 95% of the west bank and Arab neighbourhoods in East Jerusalem they refused and no counter-offer was made. And on the other hand, the Palestinians have..
@VividlyContemporary ..seen the Israelis continue to build more settlements and occupy land. So, quite understandably, both sides are suspicious of the other side, but both also seem to desire a peaceful, two state solution. It seems that groups like Hamas and the hardliners in Israel are both proving to be an obstacle to a solving the problem.
If you have a problem with Jews having a state, which you clearly do.. then you're part of the problem. You wrote "Death to all Jews" or "Death to Europeans" as well as Zionist comments. This conflict will never be resolved purely because the "Palestinians" do not recognise the Jews, and the right of the Jews to a state, that's Zionism. That's what you are against, and they are against. If you're not against it then what are you writing here..
I think that this shouldn't even be discussed. Quite frankly, to find the solution you have to focus on the problem first, but what these people cannot ask is "what can we do to stop this racism?"
Israel can be considered NE Africa, but it is not part of Africa in current geographical boundaries. I understand what you are saying, but I do not think you can just state that Israel is part of Africa, Saudi Arabia and Yemen could also be considered part of Africa but these beliefs are not the excepted view of the boundaries of AFRICA.
The fact is Israeli/Palestinian issue is a colonial issue. Europe hates Jews and tried to extermiate Jews they were not successful so they devised a way to get as many out of Europe as possible. First they offered zionists parts of Kenya and Uganda. European Jews did not like the idea of living in Africa otherwise this problem would have been in Africa. I love Jews but have zionists become the same as their oppressors in Europe in 1945. Righteous Jews must think about this.
The real racism is against the ethiopians. Race is about skin color and not nationality. Just look at the history in which it came about. The white europeans came up with this idea to keep anyone of darker skin tone inferior to them. What they debating about is religious racism at best.
@jrello22 Race is about skin colour? So you're saying a person's race can only be defined by their skin colour? So according to you, albinos are white? lol
Europeans did not invent racism you fool. Discrimination has always existed. Right from the origins of man, when the first tribes met, they killed each other. Arab muslims had been enslaving black africans ONE THOUSAND YEARS before the white man landed in africa.
@studentrevisionist europe boasts racism. They let nazis own racist based businesses, run ramped at soccer games, host racist rallies and even have gigantic control over the right wing. Answer me this. What reason do whites have to yell racism? Your not even a race just a completely shallow entity thats provoking racism. Only reason you can even say jews scream it is because its not an issue for you. Europeans scream fascism every chance they get. Is that not worse?
@TheLagunaSunrise are you seriously calling me racist for calling it like it is? I might be generalizing but xenophobia is very intense in Europe. I don't see it quite the same in Israel. In all actuality I know tons of people who were taken there and treated great, not to mention arabic people as well.They treat their people fine. Whatever racism may occur is just politically stirred up. Do you claim Israeli nationalism to be on the same level of hate as any branch of european nationalism?
@leoothelip I'm calling you racist for this, you little cunt - "What reason do whites have to yell racism? Your not even a race just a completely shallow entity".
Might wanna chuck out every single invention the "shallow white entity" has ever created, such as the ones you're using this very second... the PC, internet & world wide web. That's just three. I could list many, many more. Hypocritical little shit.
@TheLagunaSunrise Because there's been great white people in the past means I should bow before every white person I see in the street?There have been white people that have been murderers as well. I like white people, I am partially white myself but my problem is the ultra whites that believe that all evil is spawned outside of the white community.How am I calling racism by saying most whites dont get discriminated against? Lots of racism in the past led to this did it not? U reap what you sow.
@leoothelip I didn't say you should bow before every white person on the street. Don't put words in my mouth. You made an OBVIOUS racist remark about white people. You're racist because you said whites "are shallow entity, not even a race", and that they have no reason to cry racism. So if a white person is attacked by a group of non-whites, they have no right to cry racism? YOU'RE A RACIST! Yet you try to claim you're anti-racist... well, anti-racist when it comes to racism against you. SCUM.
@TheLagunaSunrise All I meant by that comment is that Whites are of the Caucasoid/ Europoid race and have no right to be racist to Jews or Hindus and some Arabs since they are the same race. Anti racist when it comes to racism against my own ?I am of equally proportionate white heritage as of my Jewish heritage. It just ends up that I get shit for my Jewish genes and not my white. Coincidence there? A certain tribe of the same race should not be treated differently for no reason, thats racism.
@leoothelip Racism has existed all over the world long before whites got in on the act. Arab muslims had been enslaving black african for ONE THOUSAND YEARS before the white man enslaved blacks, and STILL goes on to this day. Funny we never hear about this... no, because that would destroy the view that the white man has only ever oppressed... only the white man, no one else. Ignorant FOOL.
@TheLagunaSunrise I understand racism existed for super long and whatnot. I am not saying the white man is the only racist kind of person, thats ridiculous! My bias is very politically driven, I hate the right wing fascists with a passion. You do understand that there are racist people out there hiding behind politics and getting away with racist crimes right? Israel obviously being one of them. Europe holds the largest amount of fascist rallies than any other continent on earth!
@leoothelip "U reap what you sow"? I never sowed anything. You are justifying current racism against whites, because whites in the past have been racist, and you genuinely see no problem with this. You are absolute scum. RACIST scum.
@TheLagunaSunrise Im not racist against whites, I have explained before that being white is not a race, there are nords, celts, germanic and slavic tribes that believe they are truly "white" due to their pale skin color in comparison to others Caucasoids. If that is truly not racism then I do not know what is. I have more problems with older generation whites who segregate people based on these sub-races (aka pseudo genealogists ). They reaped what they sowed, everything comes full circle.
for goodness sake...save the nursery school apologetics.
muslims are so laughable, apartheid, racism, discrimination, they whine and bleat more than any other group of people period their gaulling victim mentality is astounding.
as their so called religion mandates, all of the above,plus, terrorism, lying, genocide, subjegation etc etc, and they constantly strive bring it too fruition
israel is the one democracy, surrounded by islamists, take the hint they ain t going nowhere, get used :-)
@oldjoe5 Get off your high horse. The fact that there've been no deaths recently from suicide bombers is because Israel has stepped up security, if Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists could they'd be sending dozens of suicide bombers over the border ever single day. Oh, you seem to have excluded the fact that since 2000 Palestinians have launched 8600 rockets into Israel hoping to kill Israelis. I wonder why you left that out.
Arabs still sell Africans as slaves today. African Muslims are called Takrunis in Arabia. These African Muslims came to Arabia seeking a better way of life and are denied schooling and health care as illegal residents. Egypt has killed many Africans because they were illegal.
The woman in the blue hat speaks of 'wa'.. I say to her that 'war' is when 2 sides fight with equal strength.. however, in the ILLEGAL Occupation, the squatters are funded by billions of American & British tax payers money, as well as an endless supply of donations from thousands of Zionist companies & organisations.. when the Palestinians have tanks, aircraft, bombs, laser techonogy and the media (also fighting FOR Israel) then we can call it a war, until then it is pure bullying! Zionists LIE!
big surprise..hindu supporting israel, jewish woman gets most talking time..
just go in israel, you'll see the level of utter racism in their hearts. Jews don't even treat their own good...Ashkenazi vs Sephardim vs Orthodox vs Reforn vs Ethiopian, how on earth a bunch of self righteous 'victim' god chosen people wud be sympathetic to anyone but themselves?
sit down and resolve it? how can you resolve something when u hav 1 group of people who stole your land, made u refugees and continue to deny you your freedom? how? it makes no sense!
> that fat idiot at the end said 'don't we have the right
> to defend ourselves' ............so defending yourself is
> bombing a HOSPITAL!
No, it's wiping out a community, making people stateless refugees for 50 years, blowing up Gaza's only electrical power plant, bulldozing Palestinian homes. dropping bombs on apartment buildings, using white phosphorus.
Israel has 1.5 million Arabs going to schools, serving in parliament, intermarrying, building mosques, controlling villages and towns, living freer than Arabs live in Muslim lands. How many Jews live in Arab lands? How many Christians? Say again: Which society is racist? Which society is free of Jews and Christians?
@batyam1987 they only reason they're there was because of international pressure then when israel was forcing palestinians out of their homes. Arab israelis are among the most discriminated people in israel and towns in israel are staunchly either arab or jewish. Arabs and jews don't interact or socialize everyday life..only if they have to. During the 2009 gaza war politicans even said to rearrange the boarders of israel so that the arab towns in the north would be part of the palestinian state
Btw, who is invading who in palestine? Who are the victims and who are the invaders. Who pocess heavy military power and who pocess a few rockets. Who has a full fledge army? Who has the atomic bomb. What do you think jews should do to stop getting killed? And again, short minded as you are, you are justifying the acts of israel. Why don't you use your own common sense instead of spouting what cnn what you to believe?
Man I told you, you are either a hyppocrit, a liar or an ignoramous. Since you claimed Muslims never enslaved Africans using the Qur'an to justify it..we stopped having a conversation..So go blow your self up or fuck a sheep or whatever sick shit you do...mujee asshole
Fuck yourself man. It's me who is fed up with your nonsense. You don't know anything, you don't have any common sense. And you just spout what cnn want you to believe. With only your logic, I have proved that you are a biassed fucking shit who dont' have a brain. The fact that you justified the use of nuclear weapons. The fact that you find israel as the victime. And I don't know how many bull shit you have swallowed and you are spouting them here. GO AND FUCK YOURSELF STUPID CUNT.
Of course books on world war 2 written by americans to praise americans will certainly not tell the truth Use your common sense. Its mere propaganda. And again, you are spitting propaganda.
I actually disagree with you in a sense, after the dropping of the bomb, a lot of American's including Oppenheimer, the leader of the team, criticized America, not only for the creation, but for the use of the weapon. Not everyone praised American actions.
USA only had to show the firepower that it had. It only had to show that it had the atomic bomb ready. So it just had to drop it on a desert and show japan the firepower. Every people with a little common sense would know that. Its not like USA was so desperate, that it had no choice than to drop 2 atomic bombs on civilians. Use your common sense bitch. Its is certainly not comparable with the desperate situations of palestinians.
Actually jackass they and the french did do that a number of times and let the Japanese high command know what they were going to do. I have never justified what they did, I merely explained that it was the lesser of two evils.
The American's did a test in the middle of the desert of America. The experiment was watched by the team who helped create it and several military leaders, the footage is well known. A week or so before, America approached the Japanese and asked them to surrender, the Japanese refused.
So what happened in Gaza? Btw, who is invading who? Use your common sense man. Stop spouting what cnn wants you to believe. WHO IS INVADIND WHO??. Jews are invading palestinians. Its as simple as that. Even people with a little common sense will figure out that palestinians are defending themselves against invaders. That's what it is. If jews does not want to get killed, so just stop the invasion, and get the hell out of palestine. Its as simple as that.
Who is invading who? The so-called racist Israel has 2 million Arabs while Israel, racist Israel is the only Mid-East State that offered asylum to the blacks of Dafur while Muslim Egypt shoot them. Moreover jackass Egypt closed their boarder during the last incursion...get a clue asshole
> Israel is the only Mid-East State that offered asylum
> to the blacks of Dafur while Muslim Egypt shoot them.
Haha.
google this:
"The policy of returning back anyone who enters Israel illegally will pertain to everyone, including those from Darfur," spokesman David Baker said. Those already in Israel will be allowed to stay, Baker said.
But, the fact that you justify the use of atomic bomb on civilians is truly a proof of insanity, dirty mind, and lack of education. You must have been brainwashed to justify such horrible act. That's what you are.
@CamAtheist So, if we recapitulate. Your leaders perverted christianity to make you consent with their perverted system. Then they made you believe that white are superior, to make you consent with slavery. Then indoctrinated you, to make you support your tyrant kings to support colonizations. Now your leaders are indoctrinating you, to make you support capitalism and globalization. continued..
@CamAtheist Its written in the talmud. Not in the thorah. We muslims believe in the thorah as well, but not in the talmud.
No. There is a difference for muslim. Some muslim believes that their religion is superior. Not themselves. If a muslim considers himself as superior, then he is not a muslim. This is fundamental. If you are going to say something else about that, then its pure bullshit.
btw, its also written in the talmud, that jews have the right to lie and cheat non jews. So.
But in judaism itself, jews asserts that only Jews are human. Other people are like animals that have to work for Jews. On wikipedia itself they claim that they have superior genes. And I have never met a Jew who is not a supremacist. I think Jews are not normal people. They always look down upon others. They don't have any respect to other religions. Look how they talk about Jesus and Mohammed.
one can not call Israel a "racist" state when only a minority is racist, just like I can not call Britain racist because some parties like the BNP want to eject Muslims, jews, and all those that do not have any british origins from Britain.
Even if they won in parliment, does that means the whole COUNTRY is racist?
Saying ISRAEL as a state is Racist is totaly unjustified and irresponsible. Yes, there are some racist people inside, just like anywhere else, but not everyone is.
I think any victim of racism will call the actions of the state racially motivated. So yes they can.
If someone says they believe Israel is a racist state that is not the same as saying all israelis are racist. It just means the actions of there political leaders are racist.
I am? Wow! I feel bad now, I didn't know there was a label. So they claim to have descended from two brothas which I think normally means cousins even in the myths. Moreover they both claim to be semites, You know when you fight for 50 years over some land in the desert on claims that your God gives you the right to be there and unreasonably kill your neighbour over the alleged gift, I should think you are a loon, but thats just me. Maybe you think its rational, I am normal, peace
The only difference between jews and arabs are their religion. Islam treats everybody as equal. A king does not have more power than a peasant in islam. While in judaism, jews consider only jews as human. Other people are animals that should work for jews. This explains why there is no peace there. Simple because jews will never accept an agreement which is equal towards the palestines. For them its like loosing to vulgar animals. This is the mindset of jews. They are supremacists.
Oh really! How about the idea of a dhimmi..that just screams of equality. One might argue that ideal pacifism in any religion seeks equality. BUt both Judaism and Islam make their group the focus of their made up God's love. Didnt Muslims enslave people? Blacks were enslaved in the same Palistine until the establishment of the Jewish state man! Look at our situation in Arab-Islamic north Africa. In fact try Birmingham and see who trumps whitee as the most racists in the Midlands. Get real Mujee
@CamAtheist You must be a real dirt to justify the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. I guess its not your fault, you don't have the brain to distinguish between what is right and what is wrong. I'm sure Hitler himself would not justify an atomic bomb on civilians. btw, even Hitler thought that he would save many more lives by eradicating jews. Does that justify his action? So how come, the horrible attack using nuclear weapons can be justified. Use your brain asshole!! You are being indoctrinated.
@CamAtheist Muslim enslave people. OMG. You suck man. Go and read about the real history. The situation there in north Africa is because of lack of education due to poverty. Not because of islam. And guess because of whom these people are poor today? Because of slavery, colonisation, globalization. Because of the fucking ideas of occidental countries. Not because of islam. Ass hole!!. Why don't you read some books
Are you really saying Muslims never enslaved Africans and justified it using the Qur'an? I am done with you. You are either very dishonest or a blatant liar, either way you are the epitome of indolent stupidity. I was raised Shi'ite and my people enslaved and sold our neighbours as was done in Persia, the area od Modern Iraq, Saudi Arabia and the southern Arabias and every where you all were in majority. You are the epitome of indolent stupidity.
I'm not an arab, and certainly I'm not going to defend an arab. I'm a muslim with indian origin. And what I know and it is fundamental for me that Muhamad asked billal to go on the Kaaba to make the call of prayer. It is privilidge that even the most powerful king could not get. Billal was a black slave. So, this was a powerful message to the world that everybody is equal. Secondly, muslims are asked to respect other religions. Thirdly in the mosque everybody is equal.
If Arabs were performing slave trade, they were not doing it in the name of islam. Its for their own business. And the slave trade started well before the islamic era. What's sure is that islam is fundamentally against slavery. Because islam considers everybody as equal.
Guess who controlled the slave trade as well as almost all trades before the islamic era. Guess who was controlling trade during the time of Jesus?
And asshole there was a significant slave trade to India which was ended by the British in the 1870s. Who was carrying on that trade. the Muslims. Look up Malik Ambar of the Deccan, the blacks of pakistan and also if you wish to learn anything, doubtfull, look at the lady who was married to Shah Jahan..see what was her origin and you will say they were not Islamic but they like all nutty assholes use magic book with their gibberish to justify all their bullshit. Where is your GOD..ignorant cooli
Dubai is an islamic country. But still they sell alcohol, they have night clubs, they eat pig. Does that mean islam allows alcohol and pig? Of course not. Why do they sell alcohol? Purely in an economic perspective. Can you see the analogy. Or should I make a drawing for you to understand?!
@CamAtheist Lets talk about atheism. Don't you think its just an idea spread by leaders to make people consent with an inherently fraudulent and exploitative system like capitalism? See, every people who have a faith undergo a perpetual battle against greed. While greed is the founding stone of capitalism. Meaning, religion is incompatible with capitalism. So to make people consent with capitalism, just put a new idea called atheism. And you are a mere adherent of a new idea by your leaders.
Really? Who is spreading this Atheism..I didnt get it from anyone. I was raised Muslim in a Christian society then I went to school and investigated and realised its all bullshit. Greed is the founding stone of all religion also. Never forget that all these alleged religious leaders, excepting Jesus, were rich and exploited the gullible morons around them. What leaders? Bush and now Obama are declared Christians and we secularist fight their bullshit. You need to get an education man.
lol, You are a moron. You did not go and verify that god cannot exist as well. So you must have got this idea from somebody. Either your media, or your some scientists. What's sure, you did not come with this idea of atheism by yourself. On top of that, it is an idea that is trendy these days. Just like christianity was before.
You are funny Essex girl, I have some friends from there, extreme Liberals, nice people still. But here's what you not getting, as a black man in Britain I have faced more racism from Muslims of all sorts, excluding Kurds, yet not a single Jew has shown me ill will. They may think it but they never express it. If two people continue to war in a self righteous declaration that the man in their myth book is right, I think they are full crazy. Killing people for that reason is nutty by any group.
well seeing as you have atheist in your username i'd say it's fair to say that you've labelled yourself as one.
also, unless you've met all muslims and jews then you you're just generalising. also, why is it relevent that i'm form essex, perhaps you're generalising again...
also, the way you said nutty seemed more derogatory than you actually basing it on fact. all i'm saying is that you think you have something important to say, actually explain yourself as opposed to giving quick statements that appear to have had no thought put into them.
Actually Essex girl, my Essex friend is here with me and she apparently finds it offensive to be called snotty or posh. So in the interest of free speech which may only last a short time more in Islamic UK, Essex girls are snooty and posh. Just wanted to say it because I can presently. Just for argument sake, if you don't think they are nutty, why noot move to a State where they are in the majority? Chose anyone, Muslim or Jew and go live there if you sure "they" are not nutcases. Peace Essex!
that doesn't make any sense though... i wouldn't move somewhere solely because i don't think the people there are crazy. generalisations can be dangerous, 'cause it gives some people an excuse to say that people like stalin did things because of being atheists.
i don't like being defined as a person because of where i come from also, and people from essex are rarely described as snotty/snooty or posh, and please show me a scrap of actual evidence to show the realistic demise of free speech.
jews are barbarians always have,first time they have country and don't know how to act,theres reason jews haven't had a state because they have no honor or morals
And, we in the US need to stop backing these inhumane behaviours and crimes! There truly is NO cease-fire coming out of Israel and Gaza is a true prison-camp. Nothing in or out; NO food, NO water, NO fishing. HOW is this any better than what Hitler did??
Yeah right... Imagine what would Hamas do if they were the 3rd military power in the world, how they would use their weapons... There is a HUGE difference between Israel and primitive Palestine.
If Hamas was the third military power in the word, the jews would get their tail between their legs, and would not dare attack palestinians. Meaning, there would not be any need to use atomic bombs on civilians like USA did on Japan.
On the other hand, if Palestine was fare away from israel, the fucking jews would surely drop a bomb there. Afterall they consider only jews as human. Other people are just animals that have to work and die for jews. That's judaism
Are you seriously saying that Hamas would NOT use nuclear bombs if they had it... Please! Are you that deluded? Of course Hamas will use nuclear wpns to target civilians. And by the way, ALL religions make the same stupid claim about others.
If Hamas was the third military power in the world, the world would be in shit street. Every non-Muslim would be reduced to dhimmis as they have done in Lebanon, lets not forget. Hahahaha The USA used the bombs to save more lives you fool. Have you read anything about world war two. You should read how the grand Mufti of Jerusalem made a pact with Hitler to kill all the Jews. Thats what you should read and see how much blood the righteous have on their hands. You are such a schmuck
Any shit that comes out of a Zionist's mouth to cover-up Apartheid, Racism, Discrimination and Occupation seems okay for them. These videos will shame them for thousands of years.
Israel is a terrorist nation just like Iran. The only difference being is that the USA backs one terrorist nation whole rejecting the other.
MsDimplecheeks 2 weeks ago
The host of this program is resist as well. he gave more chance to those gave speech in support of israel. may be he is a Jew
rakib0099 3 weeks ago
This is the weirdest panel ever. Hindu guy is lame
stanteau 3 weeks ago
BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!!
yoshi090gs 4 weeks ago
dirty jews
MrLeeskee 1 month ago
So once the land is restored to palestinians and Jews are deprived of statehood so people think there will be peace in the world? Will the world not create the same problem where a multitude of people (jews) will be stateless? I wish the world luck with the notion of multi culturalism- a doomed concept indeed.
nxumalosic 3 months ago
The man at 05.19 is intelligent
nxumalosic 3 months ago
why didn't Palestine's created a state for themselves from 1947-1967 when the west bank was in their control , why don't they demand Jordan because it was part of roman Palestine ?
jacoby841 3 months ago
The world is full of nations that have been "settled" (meaning an indigenous population was overrun). It amazes how people seems to pretend that Israel is special in this regard. What!!, Israel is occupying other people’s land??!! How unusual. Cont ...
JaymoeSays 4 months ago
@JaymoeSays ... I'm Australian, and the reality is if Aboriginals all of a sudden took up arms and rockets and started attacking whites we would fight back. And technically, they would be in the right because we took their land. Right or wrong, we would still defend ourselves and fight back.
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America, South Africa, Australia and Israel all have something in common, but can you guess what?
FaithFullMemory 3 months ago
generations of the future will laught at all of this
dantebezze 4 months ago
@TheLansoprazole - So muslims , let's unite against our common enemy. Divided, you will be one of my enemies.
TTTan1 5 months ago
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@TheLansoprazole - Until Israel is on the Map of the world there will Never be Peace. Remove Israel today and We Will get Peace Tonight in the World.
Israel has to be on the world map so as to keep the muslim united. If Israel is wipe out, the muslim will be divided and starts killing one another. So please allow Israel to be on the world map so as to keep muslims to be in unity. "Guaranteed"
TTTan1 5 months ago
Until Israel is on the Map of the world there will Never be Peace
Remove Israel today and We Will get Peace Tonight in the World "Guaranteed"
TheLansoprazole 5 months ago
if you really think that Israel is a legitimate state because the great great great- grandfathers of the Jews lived in that land for a period of time, then you would have to knowledge that America, Australia and New Zealand are illegitimate countries, because they have no ancestor in those lands, before they were taken from the natives by force!!!
Most of the westerns are hypocrites for supporting such an illegal occupation, so they better wakeup and straighten their policies
MrYemenipride 6 months ago
Israel is losing support so rapidly because ppl are seeing beyond its lies....it's desperately funding far-right movements in Europe and the West in a last-ditch attempt to divide christians and muslims. If this attempt fails then its future is absolutely dark. Time to end the occupation
elsblaugranas 7 months ago 2
Both Sides state good arguments to a quesion that is just incapable of a final solution.
DeMatt11370 7 months ago
wat about the irish people
moonknight1985 8 months ago
My answer would be . Yes Israel is Racist Now.
pashtonkhan 8 months ago
Some idiots here are pointing the finger of blame solely on Israel while saying nothing about the Palestinian terrorists who since 2000 have launched 8600 rockets into Israel.
macnos 8 months ago
@macnos exactly...
RobertsDigital 7 months ago
@macnos And since then, how many civilian fatalites have there been on the Palestinian side compared to tha of the Israeli side?
MustafaZia4382 6 months ago
@MustafaZia4382 The fact that Israeli casualties have been low is certainly not from a lack of trying on Palestinians' behalf. If Hamas and their lowlife supporters could they'd be sending in suicide bombers on a daily basis.
macnos 6 months ago
@macnos which is deplorable. but under international law your retalliation must be fairly equal to the attacks. 11 israelis have been killed by 10,ooo rockets. terrorism is wrong, but collective punishment is contrary to geneva conventions. it is a war crime
maxfedor1 6 months ago
@maxfedor1 Yes, collective punishment is wrong and illegal whenever Israel uses it but people tend to focus an inordinate amount of time on Israeli wrongdoings but there really isn't that much debate when Hamas or Hizbullah fire rockets from populated areas knowing full well that the IDF will retaliate or when they use human shields.
macnos 6 months ago
@macnos terrorism of anykind is wrong.it took the western press over 30 years to start showing both sides of conflict. if any side cause was focused on for an inordinate time it would of been Israels. but the solution is not to argue whose worse but for a strong international contingent to settle the score. and the US is npt part of the solution, their record of rejectionism is deplorable. peace
maxfedor1 6 months ago
4:50 - "if you take away the occupation, the problem goes away" - before operation cast lead, Israel evacuated completely from Gaza, including all settlements and all military presence. Moments later, the Hamas began a relentless bombardment of the surrounding Israeli cities which, despite numerous diplomatic approaches by Israel, only ended once Cast Lead began. So no, evacuating does not remove the problem, it only empowers and emboldens the terrorists.
guilty787 8 months ago
0:50 - "Suicide bombing is a result of the occupation" - this is false. The Palestinian aggression began from the very 1st day Israel was given its independence by England in 1948 when THEY declared war. And none of Israel is occupied because THERE WAS NEVER A PALESTINIAN STATE!! If there is no state, how can it be occupied?? Winston Churchil gave the indigenous Arab people Palestine the entire territory of Jordan. It is the Jordanians who refuse to accept the Palestinian refugees in Israel.
guilty787 8 months ago
Lol the lady at 1:45 needs to be hanged.
"Two peoples at war"
Are you fucking kidding me?
How is it war, when one is an occupier and another the victim of said occupation?
GDTravels 8 months ago
Jews are racist. Israel is a racist state and we should not recognize it as a Jewish state... because that is allowing them to be racists hateful people... they should get back to Europe or the US or somewhere else.
2ExistIstoResist 8 months ago
The Aborigines the only unadulterated race? Hmmm. Apart from that, if more people were like the female rabbi the problem might actually get solved.
grmc949 8 months ago
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jews should be killed
r9i9a9p3 8 months ago
A characteristic of westeners and Jews is to equate the perputrator of crime with its victim. In this scenario the Palestians and Israelis are NOT equal partners in crime. The european Jews of Israel are living on land that has been STOLEN from their rightfull owners i.e. the Palestians. Israeli's are not just racist war criminals, they're also thieves and falsifiers of history.
Invesigator 9 months ago
I agree with the southafrican woman! good on her! she speaks the truth... when will the world realise what a nasty racist state isreal is.
TheFabregasHater 9 months ago
How do you start toward peace the racist woman asks? stop being a damn racist and stop oppressing an entire people..try that for starts as if you don;t really know why
232323C 11 months ago
Too, its disgusting how all christians blindly support Israel and its biased due to their Torah which is written by the Jews..I have no respect for Christians who cover over what Jews do..They view goyems as their servants.. disgusting
232323C 11 months ago
So typical of Jews ,..they love to twist things ..lets not call it racism? lol another word? how ridiculous. Judaism is a racist religion simple and true
232323C 11 months ago
why can't we see this debatr in the united states of america so fustrating .
drizza19 1 year ago
Why the hell can't we have debates like this in America. So Damn frustrating
drizza19 1 year ago
This issue cannot be solved because both sides believe they are right, to the core. There is no compromise between the two, you seen comments here saying "Death to all Jews" or "Death to Europeans" as well as Zionist comments. If this issue is going to be solved it has to be done peacefully. Fact
ryanvids1 1 year ago 6
@ryanvids1 Quite right. *nods*
CalicoVall 1 year ago
@ryanvids1 I think I remember some polls suggesting about 2/3rds or so on both sides support a two state solution. It seems a big part of the problem is that neither side believes the other to be sincere. On the one hand, Israel has from the beginning supported a two state solution, and when for example they offered Arafat the whole of Gaza and 95% of the west bank and Arab neighbourhoods in East Jerusalem they refused and no counter-offer was made. And on the other hand, the Palestinians have..
VividlyContemporary 9 months ago
@VividlyContemporary ..seen the Israelis continue to build more settlements and occupy land. So, quite understandably, both sides are suspicious of the other side, but both also seem to desire a peaceful, two state solution. It seems that groups like Hamas and the hardliners in Israel are both proving to be an obstacle to a solving the problem.
VividlyContemporary 9 months ago
@ryanvids1
If you have a problem with Jews having a state, which you clearly do.. then you're part of the problem. You wrote "Death to all Jews" or "Death to Europeans" as well as Zionist comments. This conflict will never be resolved purely because the "Palestinians" do not recognise the Jews, and the right of the Jews to a state, that's Zionism. That's what you are against, and they are against. If you're not against it then what are you writing here..
boliussa 3 months ago
I think that this shouldn't even be discussed. Quite frankly, to find the solution you have to focus on the problem first, but what these people cannot ask is "what can we do to stop this racism?"
rorank 1 year ago
atleast its being debated on british tv. If anyone dares to qouestion israel on american tv they will immediatley be called an anti-semite
TheArabChristian 1 year ago
Israel can be considered NE Africa, but it is not part of Africa in current geographical boundaries. I understand what you are saying, but I do not think you can just state that Israel is part of Africa, Saudi Arabia and Yemen could also be considered part of Africa but these beliefs are not the excepted view of the boundaries of AFRICA.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
The fact is Israeli/Palestinian issue is a colonial issue. Europe hates Jews and tried to extermiate Jews they were not successful so they devised a way to get as many out of Europe as possible. First they offered zionists parts of Kenya and Uganda. European Jews did not like the idea of living in Africa otherwise this problem would have been in Africa. I love Jews but have zionists become the same as their oppressors in Europe in 1945. Righteous Jews must think about this.
EgbesuJuju2010 1 year ago
@EgbesuJuju2010 Israel is in Africa.
tvwatcher35 1 year ago
@tvwatcher35 Israel is in Asia.
rorank 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS WOMAN!!!!
codeplo 1 year ago
The real racism is against the ethiopians. Race is about skin color and not nationality. Just look at the history in which it came about. The white europeans came up with this idea to keep anyone of darker skin tone inferior to them. What they debating about is religious racism at best.
jrello22 1 year ago
@jrello22 Race is about skin colour? So you're saying a person's race can only be defined by their skin colour? So according to you, albinos are white? lol
Europeans did not invent racism you fool. Discrimination has always existed. Right from the origins of man, when the first tribes met, they killed each other. Arab muslims had been enslaving black africans ONE THOUSAND YEARS before the white man landed in africa.
TheLagunaSunrise 1 year ago
the jews on there seem like the IDF internet trolls which defend their actions no matter what
happosai27 1 year ago
jews kicked the arabs out .
slayyyyn 1 year ago
When the racism is against other, is funny, when it is against me, is a crime
culombie 1 year ago
NICE ONE
kingarturblack 1 year ago
@studentrevisionist europe boasts racism. They let nazis own racist based businesses, run ramped at soccer games, host racist rallies and even have gigantic control over the right wing. Answer me this. What reason do whites have to yell racism? Your not even a race just a completely shallow entity thats provoking racism. Only reason you can even say jews scream it is because its not an issue for you. Europeans scream fascism every chance they get. Is that not worse?
leoothelip 1 year ago
@leoothelip You little racist cunt.
TheLagunaSunrise 1 year ago
@TheLagunaSunrise are you seriously calling me racist for calling it like it is? I might be generalizing but xenophobia is very intense in Europe. I don't see it quite the same in Israel. In all actuality I know tons of people who were taken there and treated great, not to mention arabic people as well.They treat their people fine. Whatever racism may occur is just politically stirred up. Do you claim Israeli nationalism to be on the same level of hate as any branch of european nationalism?
leoothelip 1 year ago
@leoothelip I'm calling you racist for this, you little cunt - "What reason do whites have to yell racism? Your not even a race just a completely shallow entity".
Might wanna chuck out every single invention the "shallow white entity" has ever created, such as the ones you're using this very second... the PC, internet & world wide web. That's just three. I could list many, many more. Hypocritical little shit.
TheLagunaSunrise 1 year ago
@TheLagunaSunrise Because there's been great white people in the past means I should bow before every white person I see in the street?There have been white people that have been murderers as well. I like white people, I am partially white myself but my problem is the ultra whites that believe that all evil is spawned outside of the white community.How am I calling racism by saying most whites dont get discriminated against? Lots of racism in the past led to this did it not? U reap what you sow.
leoothelip 1 year ago
@leoothelip I didn't say you should bow before every white person on the street. Don't put words in my mouth. You made an OBVIOUS racist remark about white people. You're racist because you said whites "are shallow entity, not even a race", and that they have no reason to cry racism. So if a white person is attacked by a group of non-whites, they have no right to cry racism? YOU'RE A RACIST! Yet you try to claim you're anti-racist... well, anti-racist when it comes to racism against you. SCUM.
TheLagunaSunrise 1 year ago
@TheLagunaSunrise All I meant by that comment is that Whites are of the Caucasoid/ Europoid race and have no right to be racist to Jews or Hindus and some Arabs since they are the same race. Anti racist when it comes to racism against my own ?I am of equally proportionate white heritage as of my Jewish heritage. It just ends up that I get shit for my Jewish genes and not my white. Coincidence there? A certain tribe of the same race should not be treated differently for no reason, thats racism.
leoothelip 1 year ago
@leoothelip Racism has existed all over the world long before whites got in on the act. Arab muslims had been enslaving black african for ONE THOUSAND YEARS before the white man enslaved blacks, and STILL goes on to this day. Funny we never hear about this... no, because that would destroy the view that the white man has only ever oppressed... only the white man, no one else. Ignorant FOOL.
ALL slavery & racism is WRONG. Including yours.
TheLagunaSunrise 1 year ago
@TheLagunaSunrise I understand racism existed for super long and whatnot. I am not saying the white man is the only racist kind of person, thats ridiculous! My bias is very politically driven, I hate the right wing fascists with a passion. You do understand that there are racist people out there hiding behind politics and getting away with racist crimes right? Israel obviously being one of them. Europe holds the largest amount of fascist rallies than any other continent on earth!
leoothelip 1 year ago
@leoothelip "U reap what you sow"? I never sowed anything. You are justifying current racism against whites, because whites in the past have been racist, and you genuinely see no problem with this. You are absolute scum. RACIST scum.
TheLagunaSunrise 1 year ago
@TheLagunaSunrise Im not racist against whites, I have explained before that being white is not a race, there are nords, celts, germanic and slavic tribes that believe they are truly "white" due to their pale skin color in comparison to others Caucasoids. If that is truly not racism then I do not know what is. I have more problems with older generation whites who segregate people based on these sub-races (aka pseudo genealogists ). They reaped what they sowed, everything comes full circle.
leoothelip 1 year ago
for goodness sake...save the nursery school apologetics.
muslims are so laughable, apartheid, racism, discrimination, they whine and bleat more than any other group of people period their gaulling victim mentality is astounding.
as their so called religion mandates, all of the above,plus, terrorism, lying, genocide, subjegation etc etc, and they constantly strive bring it too fruition
israel is the one democracy, surrounded by islamists, take the hint they ain t going nowhere, get used :-)
secula4eva 1 year ago
Good debate.
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
the hindu guy looks like a zombie man....
keeplarge 1 year ago
We must condemn suicide bombings that killed 4 Israelis in the past four years.
But using the might of the IDF on the civilians of Lebanon and Gaza, killing over 2,500 people -- no condemnation required
oldjoe5 1 year ago 23
@oldjoe5 Get off your high horse. The fact that there've been no deaths recently from suicide bombers is because Israel has stepped up security, if Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists could they'd be sending dozens of suicide bombers over the border ever single day. Oh, you seem to have excluded the fact that since 2000 Palestinians have launched 8600 rockets into Israel hoping to kill Israelis. I wonder why you left that out.
macnos 8 months ago
Is it true that the Palestinians are really of Semitic origin ie the true Semites ?
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has to end. One step towards that is obviously to end the occupation. That simply can't go on.
mebdoc 1 year ago
Israel is one of the most OPEN society in the world it is NOT racist!
batyam1987 1 year ago
THIS MEAN YOU NEVER BEEN IN ISRAEL
kingarturblack 1 year ago
Arabs still sell Africans as slaves today. African Muslims are called Takrunis in Arabia. These African Muslims came to Arabia seeking a better way of life and are denied schooling and health care as illegal residents. Egypt has killed many Africans because they were illegal.
batyam1987 1 year ago
Cry me a river you fucking hypocrites (muslims). All Arab countries are fascists (racist by definition) states
mowgly3000 1 year ago
The Jews cry victimhood as they drop white phosphorous on kids and drive home in their Lexus' to their $2 million houses
oldjoe5 1 year ago
The woman in the blue hat speaks of 'wa'.. I say to her that 'war' is when 2 sides fight with equal strength.. however, in the ILLEGAL Occupation, the squatters are funded by billions of American & British tax payers money, as well as an endless supply of donations from thousands of Zionist companies & organisations.. when the Palestinians have tanks, aircraft, bombs, laser techonogy and the media (also fighting FOR Israel) then we can call it a war, until then it is pure bullying! Zionists LIE!
MissConceptions1 1 year ago
big surprise..hindu supporting israel, jewish woman gets most talking time..
just go in israel, you'll see the level of utter racism in their hearts. Jews don't even treat their own good...Ashkenazi vs Sephardim vs Orthodox vs Reforn vs Ethiopian, how on earth a bunch of self righteous 'victim' god chosen people wud be sympathetic to anyone but themselves?
xplosivelilly 1 year ago
sit down and resolve it? how can you resolve something when u hav 1 group of people who stole your land, made u refugees and continue to deny you your freedom? how? it makes no sense!
xplosivelilly 1 year ago
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> that fat idiot at the end said 'don't we have the right
> to defend ourselves' ............so defending yourself is
> bombing a HOSPITAL!
No, it's wiping out a community, making people stateless refugees for 50 years, blowing up Gaza's only electrical power plant, bulldozing Palestinian homes. dropping bombs on apartment buildings, using white phosphorus.
Well, that's how Israel defines defense anyhow.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
Israel has 1.5 million Arabs going to schools, serving in parliament, intermarrying, building mosques, controlling villages and towns, living freer than Arabs live in Muslim lands. How many Jews live in Arab lands? How many Christians? Say again: Which society is racist? Which society is free of Jews and Christians?
batyam1987 1 year ago
> Israel has 1.5 million Arabs going to schools, serving
> in parliament, intermarrying,
Go to goolge, and type in the following:
Marriage to an Arab is national treason
The first link you will see is from Haartez, an Israeli newspaper. Read it.
Saying Israel isn't racist is like pontificating on whether the Nazi state MIGHT be racist, or Apartheid was racism. It's OBVIOUSLY RACISM.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
@batyam1987 they only reason they're there was because of international pressure then when israel was forcing palestinians out of their homes. Arab israelis are among the most discriminated people in israel and towns in israel are staunchly either arab or jewish. Arabs and jews don't interact or socialize everyday life..only if they have to. During the 2009 gaza war politicans even said to rearrange the boarders of israel so that the arab towns in the north would be part of the palestinian state
xplosivelilly 1 year ago
@batyam1987.. Millions of Christians live in arab nations. Millions of Jews lived in arab lands prior to the creation of the Zionist state
oldjoe5 1 year ago
Just saw news of children born in Israel from immigrant working parents being forced to be deported by the government because they're not Jews.
Oh the hypocrisy. *shakes head*
YuffieDon 2 years ago
There goes the Muslim victim mode again!
view587 2 years ago
Btw, who is invading who in palestine? Who are the victims and who are the invaders. Who pocess heavy military power and who pocess a few rockets. Who has a full fledge army? Who has the atomic bomb. What do you think jews should do to stop getting killed? And again, short minded as you are, you are justifying the acts of israel. Why don't you use your own common sense instead of spouting what cnn what you to believe?
kureem 2 years ago
Man I told you, you are either a hyppocrit, a liar or an ignoramous. Since you claimed Muslims never enslaved Africans using the Qur'an to justify it..we stopped having a conversation..So go blow your self up or fuck a sheep or whatever sick shit you do...mujee asshole
CamAtheist 2 years ago
Fuck yourself man. It's me who is fed up with your nonsense. You don't know anything, you don't have any common sense. And you just spout what cnn want you to believe. With only your logic, I have proved that you are a biassed fucking shit who dont' have a brain. The fact that you justified the use of nuclear weapons. The fact that you find israel as the victime. And I don't know how many bull shit you have swallowed and you are spouting them here. GO AND FUCK YOURSELF STUPID CUNT.
kureem 2 years ago
Of course books on world war 2 written by americans to praise americans will certainly not tell the truth Use your common sense. Its mere propaganda. And again, you are spitting propaganda.
kureem 2 years ago
yes jackass the Japanese have acknowledged that there would have been more deaths had their been an invasion..maybe they are propagandists
CamAtheist 2 years ago
I actually disagree with you in a sense, after the dropping of the bomb, a lot of American's including Oppenheimer, the leader of the team, criticized America, not only for the creation, but for the use of the weapon. Not everyone praised American actions.
Eddersz 2 years ago
USA only had to show the firepower that it had. It only had to show that it had the atomic bomb ready. So it just had to drop it on a desert and show japan the firepower. Every people with a little common sense would know that. Its not like USA was so desperate, that it had no choice than to drop 2 atomic bombs on civilians. Use your common sense bitch. Its is certainly not comparable with the desperate situations of palestinians.
kureem 2 years ago
Actually jackass they and the french did do that a number of times and let the Japanese high command know what they were going to do. I have never justified what they did, I merely explained that it was the lesser of two evils.
CamAtheist 2 years ago
It did do this, your history is flawed.
The American's did a test in the middle of the desert of America. The experiment was watched by the team who helped create it and several military leaders, the footage is well known. A week or so before, America approached the Japanese and asked them to surrender, the Japanese refused.
Eddersz 2 years ago
So what happened in Gaza? Btw, who is invading who? Use your common sense man. Stop spouting what cnn wants you to believe. WHO IS INVADIND WHO??. Jews are invading palestinians. Its as simple as that. Even people with a little common sense will figure out that palestinians are defending themselves against invaders. That's what it is. If jews does not want to get killed, so just stop the invasion, and get the hell out of palestine. Its as simple as that.
kureem 2 years ago 2
Who is invading who? The so-called racist Israel has 2 million Arabs while Israel, racist Israel is the only Mid-East State that offered asylum to the blacks of Dafur while Muslim Egypt shoot them. Moreover jackass Egypt closed their boarder during the last incursion...get a clue asshole
CamAtheist 2 years ago
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> Israel is the only Mid-East State that offered asylum
> to the blacks of Dafur while Muslim Egypt shoot them.
Haha.
google this:
"The policy of returning back anyone who enters Israel illegally will pertain to everyone, including those from Darfur," spokesman David Baker said. Those already in Israel will be allowed to stay, Baker said.
fuzzywzhe 1 year ago
But, the fact that you justify the use of atomic bomb on civilians is truly a proof of insanity, dirty mind, and lack of education. You must have been brainwashed to justify such horrible act. That's what you are.
kureem 2 years ago
@CamAtheist So, if we recapitulate. Your leaders perverted christianity to make you consent with their perverted system. Then they made you believe that white are superior, to make you consent with slavery. Then indoctrinated you, to make you support your tyrant kings to support colonizations. Now your leaders are indoctrinating you, to make you support capitalism and globalization. continued..
kureem 2 years ago
@CamAtheist Its written in the talmud. Not in the thorah. We muslims believe in the thorah as well, but not in the talmud.
No. There is a difference for muslim. Some muslim believes that their religion is superior. Not themselves. If a muslim considers himself as superior, then he is not a muslim. This is fundamental. If you are going to say something else about that, then its pure bullshit.
btw, its also written in the talmud, that jews have the right to lie and cheat non jews. So.
kureem 2 years ago
But in judaism itself, jews asserts that only Jews are human. Other people are like animals that have to work for Jews. On wikipedia itself they claim that they have superior genes. And I have never met a Jew who is not a supremacist. I think Jews are not normal people. They always look down upon others. They don't have any respect to other religions. Look how they talk about Jesus and Mohammed.
kureem 2 years ago
one can not call Israel a "racist" state when only a minority is racist, just like I can not call Britain racist because some parties like the BNP want to eject Muslims, jews, and all those that do not have any british origins from Britain.
Even if they won in parliment, does that means the whole COUNTRY is racist?
Saying ISRAEL as a state is Racist is totaly unjustified and irresponsible. Yes, there are some racist people inside, just like anywhere else, but not everyone is.
upsilone 2 years ago
My friend the israeli state has clear raCist policies inshrined in its laws that prohibit palestinians from returning to there lands
mukhtar66 2 years ago 2
I think any victim of racism will call the actions of the state racially motivated. So yes they can.
If someone says they believe Israel is a racist state that is not the same as saying all israelis are racist. It just means the actions of there political leaders are racist.
Instrumentals4Sale 2 years ago
you're really dragging the atheist label down...
mynameiskatethegreat 2 years ago
I am? Wow! I feel bad now, I didn't know there was a label. So they claim to have descended from two brothas which I think normally means cousins even in the myths. Moreover they both claim to be semites, You know when you fight for 50 years over some land in the desert on claims that your God gives you the right to be there and unreasonably kill your neighbour over the alleged gift, I should think you are a loon, but thats just me. Maybe you think its rational, I am normal, peace
CamAtheist 2 years ago
The only difference between jews and arabs are their religion. Islam treats everybody as equal. A king does not have more power than a peasant in islam. While in judaism, jews consider only jews as human. Other people are animals that should work for jews. This explains why there is no peace there. Simple because jews will never accept an agreement which is equal towards the palestines. For them its like loosing to vulgar animals. This is the mindset of jews. They are supremacists.
kureem 2 years ago
Oh really! How about the idea of a dhimmi..that just screams of equality. One might argue that ideal pacifism in any religion seeks equality. BUt both Judaism and Islam make their group the focus of their made up God's love. Didnt Muslims enslave people? Blacks were enslaved in the same Palistine until the establishment of the Jewish state man! Look at our situation in Arab-Islamic north Africa. In fact try Birmingham and see who trumps whitee as the most racists in the Midlands. Get real Mujee
CamAtheist 2 years ago
@CamAtheist You must be a real dirt to justify the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. I guess its not your fault, you don't have the brain to distinguish between what is right and what is wrong. I'm sure Hitler himself would not justify an atomic bomb on civilians. btw, even Hitler thought that he would save many more lives by eradicating jews. Does that justify his action? So how come, the horrible attack using nuclear weapons can be justified. Use your brain asshole!! You are being indoctrinated.
kureem 2 years ago
@CamAtheist Muslim enslave people. OMG. You suck man. Go and read about the real history. The situation there in north Africa is because of lack of education due to poverty. Not because of islam. And guess because of whom these people are poor today? Because of slavery, colonisation, globalization. Because of the fucking ideas of occidental countries. Not because of islam. Ass hole!!. Why don't you read some books
kureem 2 years ago
Are you really saying Muslims never enslaved Africans and justified it using the Qur'an? I am done with you. You are either very dishonest or a blatant liar, either way you are the epitome of indolent stupidity. I was raised Shi'ite and my people enslaved and sold our neighbours as was done in Persia, the area od Modern Iraq, Saudi Arabia and the southern Arabias and every where you all were in majority. You are the epitome of indolent stupidity.
CamAtheist 2 years ago
I'm not an arab, and certainly I'm not going to defend an arab. I'm a muslim with indian origin. And what I know and it is fundamental for me that Muhamad asked billal to go on the Kaaba to make the call of prayer. It is privilidge that even the most powerful king could not get. Billal was a black slave. So, this was a powerful message to the world that everybody is equal. Secondly, muslims are asked to respect other religions. Thirdly in the mosque everybody is equal.
kureem 2 years ago
If Arabs were performing slave trade, they were not doing it in the name of islam. Its for their own business. And the slave trade started well before the islamic era. What's sure is that islam is fundamentally against slavery. Because islam considers everybody as equal.
Guess who controlled the slave trade as well as almost all trades before the islamic era. Guess who was controlling trade during the time of Jesus?
kureem 2 years ago
And asshole there was a significant slave trade to India which was ended by the British in the 1870s. Who was carrying on that trade. the Muslims. Look up Malik Ambar of the Deccan, the blacks of pakistan and also if you wish to learn anything, doubtfull, look at the lady who was married to Shah Jahan..see what was her origin and you will say they were not Islamic but they like all nutty assholes use magic book with their gibberish to justify all their bullshit. Where is your GOD..ignorant cooli
CamAtheist 2 years ago 2
Dubai is an islamic country. But still they sell alcohol, they have night clubs, they eat pig. Does that mean islam allows alcohol and pig? Of course not. Why do they sell alcohol? Purely in an economic perspective. Can you see the analogy. Or should I make a drawing for you to understand?!
kureem 2 years ago
Go and ask Japs what they think about the atomic bomb on nagasaki and Hiroshima
kureem 2 years ago
@CamAtheist Lets talk about atheism. Don't you think its just an idea spread by leaders to make people consent with an inherently fraudulent and exploitative system like capitalism? See, every people who have a faith undergo a perpetual battle against greed. While greed is the founding stone of capitalism. Meaning, religion is incompatible with capitalism. So to make people consent with capitalism, just put a new idea called atheism. And you are a mere adherent of a new idea by your leaders.
kureem 2 years ago
Really? Who is spreading this Atheism..I didnt get it from anyone. I was raised Muslim in a Christian society then I went to school and investigated and realised its all bullshit. Greed is the founding stone of all religion also. Never forget that all these alleged religious leaders, excepting Jesus, were rich and exploited the gullible morons around them. What leaders? Bush and now Obama are declared Christians and we secularist fight their bullshit. You need to get an education man.
CamAtheist 2 years ago
lol, You are a moron. You did not go and verify that god cannot exist as well. So you must have got this idea from somebody. Either your media, or your some scientists. What's sure, you did not come with this idea of atheism by yourself. On top of that, it is an idea that is trendy these days. Just like christianity was before.
kureem 2 years ago
You are funny Essex girl, I have some friends from there, extreme Liberals, nice people still. But here's what you not getting, as a black man in Britain I have faced more racism from Muslims of all sorts, excluding Kurds, yet not a single Jew has shown me ill will. They may think it but they never express it. If two people continue to war in a self righteous declaration that the man in their myth book is right, I think they are full crazy. Killing people for that reason is nutty by any group.
CamAtheist 2 years ago
well seeing as you have atheist in your username i'd say it's fair to say that you've labelled yourself as one.
also, unless you've met all muslims and jews then you you're just generalising. also, why is it relevent that i'm form essex, perhaps you're generalising again...
mynameiskatethegreat 2 years ago
also, the way you said nutty seemed more derogatory than you actually basing it on fact. all i'm saying is that you think you have something important to say, actually explain yourself as opposed to giving quick statements that appear to have had no thought put into them.
mynameiskatethegreat 2 years ago
*from.
mynameiskatethegreat 2 years ago
Actually Essex girl, my Essex friend is here with me and she apparently finds it offensive to be called snotty or posh. So in the interest of free speech which may only last a short time more in Islamic UK, Essex girls are snooty and posh. Just wanted to say it because I can presently. Just for argument sake, if you don't think they are nutty, why noot move to a State where they are in the majority? Chose anyone, Muslim or Jew and go live there if you sure "they" are not nutcases. Peace Essex!
CamAtheist 2 years ago
that doesn't make any sense though... i wouldn't move somewhere solely because i don't think the people there are crazy. generalisations can be dangerous, 'cause it gives some people an excuse to say that people like stalin did things because of being atheists.
i don't like being defined as a person because of where i come from also, and people from essex are rarely described as snotty/snooty or posh, and please show me a scrap of actual evidence to show the realistic demise of free speech.
mynameiskatethegreat 2 years ago
jews are barbarians always have,first time they have country and don't know how to act,theres reason jews haven't had a state because they have no honor or morals
shervaanmcr84 2 years ago
Yes, Israel IS a racist, apartheid, state.
And, we in the US need to stop backing these inhumane behaviours and crimes! There truly is NO cease-fire coming out of Israel and Gaza is a true prison-camp. Nothing in or out; NO food, NO water, NO fishing. HOW is this any better than what Hitler did??
annebeck58 2 years ago 2
Yeah right... Imagine what would Hamas do if they were the 3rd military power in the world, how they would use their weapons... There is a HUGE difference between Israel and primitive Palestine.
uncypaolo 2 years ago
If Hamas was the third military power in the word, the jews would get their tail between their legs, and would not dare attack palestinians. Meaning, there would not be any need to use atomic bombs on civilians like USA did on Japan.
On the other hand, if Palestine was fare away from israel, the fucking jews would surely drop a bomb there. Afterall they consider only jews as human. Other people are just animals that have to work and die for jews. That's judaism
kureem 2 years ago
Are you seriously saying that Hamas would NOT use nuclear bombs if they had it... Please! Are you that deluded? Of course Hamas will use nuclear wpns to target civilians. And by the way, ALL religions make the same stupid claim about others.
uncypaolo 2 years ago
If Hamas was the third military power in the world, the world would be in shit street. Every non-Muslim would be reduced to dhimmis as they have done in Lebanon, lets not forget. Hahahaha The USA used the bombs to save more lives you fool. Have you read anything about world war two. You should read how the grand Mufti of Jerusalem made a pact with Hitler to kill all the Jews. Thats what you should read and see how much blood the righteous have on their hands. You are such a schmuck
CamAtheist 2 years ago
Well I just want to add
This Racist statement which was developed by Zionist Jews to suppress all the critisizm against themselve can not be used against Arabs
Arabs are Semitic
perazh 2 years ago
Any shit that comes out of a Zionist's mouth to cover-up Apartheid, Racism, Discrimination and Occupation seems okay for them. These videos will shame them for thousands of years.
bigsoundz 2 years ago 13