Karl Marx : the root of the problem is US in Zinn's Marx

[scarletletterman84]

i fucking love this play. so poignant

[ARCM566]

This play makes a great point,China,russia,and cuba follow a perverted version of communism

[kipdec2]

@ARCM566 Because if any attempt at a communist government has any sort of failures within, it is due to the failure of said government rather than the implausibility of Marx's ideas!

[biggerturtle]

@kipdec2 Marx was a cunt who liked to suck on coick ( get the simile??)

[AtlasObjectivist]

It appears only N. Korea and Cuba are still trying to hang on to that communist thing.  I wonder how it is working out for them?

[rimfa123]

It appears the western world is still holding onbto that laissez faire capitalism thing. I wondor how it is working out for them?

[AtlasObjectivist]

Nice grasp of moral equivalence.

[rimfa123]

Why thankyou, that's the most intelligent thing a petty bourgeoise bigot has said to me...well...ever...what next?

[Nothiean]

@AtlasObjectivist, for Cuba, pretty well actually. North Korea is not Communist, and they openly say it. Do some research, you stupid Randist.

[AtlasObjectivist]

@Nothiean I'm sorry, it is evident you were abused as a child, I hope you can find help.

For everyone else - an update on the daily atrocities still being committed in Castro's Cuba, google babalu blog.

[Yereviltwin2]

"Dont ask who deservers it, every human deserves it."

Thats right, everything you desire should be given to you by the governemnt regardless of weather they have earned it or not.

Yeah, that will work.

[wblakews]

the present economy is proving marx right

[nodalboogie]

The meddling of governments is marxist, not capitalistic. Marx has never been proven right.

[Knoss]

I'd say it's proving Mises right or Freidman or all of the others who warned of reckless spending.

[Knoss]

Bullshit. It proves Ludwig Von Mises and Milton Friedman right. The government bailout is coming into effect now that the recession is over.

[wblakews]

I lovefriedman, "opec will never last,oil will be $10/gallon". And Mises,what a nice snotty old bastard he was! :)

[wblakews]

No, MARX RIGHT...capitalism is exposing it's internal contradictions showing that it is built o9n piracy,lies, faulty understanding, the gun.

[wblakews]

Fact is you can't trust the workers with money so the system is arranged to give it to the rich operators. workers buy imports, the rich by overseas factories. Rigged game... national socialism since the gov can always sweep up the rich and put them in the dustbin.

[Knoss]

Only the government is permitted to use force.

[smellincoffee]

And the government permits itself. That works out swell.

[Knoss]

Government must be limited by checks and balances and by constitutional law.

[jch450]

Actually. That is compleely wrong. The triggers of this economic collapse are from the Government controlling things TOO much. The Government FORCED banks to mke bad loans. Fannie Mae and Freddie MAC are GOVERNMENT controlled corporations and THEY tirggered this disaster. Lastly. The Socialist countries are suffereing worse that the US. So, you are wrong and very ignorant.

[wblakews]

"The Federal National Mortgage Association (FNMA) (NYSE: FNM), commonly known as Fannie Mae, is a stockholder-owned corporation chartered by Congress in 1968 as a government-sponsored enterprise (GSE), but founded in 1938 during the Great Depression.

[wblakews]

The corporation's purpose is to purchase and securitize mortgages in order to ensure that funds are consistently available to the institutions that lend money to home buyers.["

kinda like the fed reserve And freddy is now under fed conservatorship, as of sept 2008. Let's dereg the streets, food, junkyards, pollution, prisons, poisons, the army (damn commies!)...

[jch450]

You ar explaining it to quickly. This government RUN corporation that was managed by Clinton cronies went out and created teh mortgage rules that allowed for junk mortgages to be created. It was not private banks. GOVERNMENT screwed things up.

[wblakews]

look at the role banks play in creation of "money", borrowing from the fed, fractional reserving, etc; motivated to create markets for loans/debt and causing inflation all along the way if the loans don't add to capital goods (realistically global heathcare should be a higher priority than bombs and SUCs) . Then consider the extent to which the economy is supported by crime, waste, sociopathic narcissisms while starving millions bleed etc.

[wblakews]

We don't need it; I don't want it, but then I have my pride.....

Then there's marx on the executive committee of the capitalist class, which is a close definition of fascism.

Marx is way underrated

[wblakews]

the whole left right thing is a waste of time. I'm so conservative I don't measure my worth in things and I don't have much good opinion for those who do. There are many points where philosophical left meets philosophical right. Uniions are bad? What's it like where there aren't any? where corporations (private socialism! gangsters, fascisti) rule. f'it

[Knoss]

True the new bureaucracies will make every commercial bank a Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

[Stryker463]

I saw this guy live doing this. He was amazing. Fantastic job.

[USRLA]

Get a job!

[Shnood]

Although a true communist society should be our ultimate goal, at the moment we should be focused on taking the next progressive step which would most likely be a true democratic socialist society.

[baofuv8]

exactly. one step at a time. look at what happened to USSR.

the entire world wanted USSR DEAD, no wonder the country turned into dictatorship =(

[afthefragile]

Not the entire world but USA.

And i don't think USA corresponds to the whole world even though they like to think so!!

[axe863]

No Karl Marx had zero checks and balances for the provisional leader because he was an idiot. He is equally as idiotic in his economic reasoning

[nodalboogie]

I would think a nation based on being an individual's ultimate goal should be the freedom to be an individual, not a ruling body explaining what kind of person you should be.

[ThrillaDaMcColdKilla]

karl marx looks like santa claus.

[NoSurrenderLeftistPr]

because he is, his gives us the gift of Freedom... now we need to act upon it.

[axe863]

Freedom in communism ? .... Were you born, yesterday?

[RedScare90]

communism is the best form of government in the world, and one day it will be the only form.

[littlegreymen]

Tell it to someone who has lived in a Communist dictatorship.

Socialism is as dead as Elvis. Get over it.

[patient0Studios]

Marxism is, not "Communism". Don't support central planning and call yourself a Marxist. If you do you have never read Marx.

[muhjaheed]

Marxism is (a form of) communism. But I agree that Marxism (and neither Communism) advocated central planning a la Soviet Union, Maoism, etc

[AnarchyIsForMe]

Communism denies property and therefore can not logically support a government, otherwise its just capitalism for bureaucrats instead of producers, which is worse than what we have noe.

[CWSmith1982]

@RedScare90 That must be why more innocent people have died under Maoist China, Leninist Russia, and Nazi, yes Nazi (Nationalist Socialist), in a short perioud of time than any other capitalist country in history.

[WorldDebater]

@RedScare90 your right but remember communism is no government when government is useless. So socialism is the best. The road to Communism!!!!

[biggerturtle]

@RedScare90 And I will kill you and your kind since it is the throwup of political ideas

[timetochilli]

@RedScare90 but real communism not state one

[JoshTemple]

Communism is teh gay.

[Solechnaya]

Powerful.

[LeonidasIII300]

Karlito's Way

[ejseabury]

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