Real Art vs Modern Art

[Makyui]

Perfectly rendered portrait of a woman in a fancy dress = realism = good.

Perfectly rendered portrait of a woman in a fancy dress with a gas mask = modern = bad.

I dun get it.

Guess we'd better throw Van Gogh out too, all that "modern" impressionist Starry Night shit's gotta go, can't have any of them fancy brush strokes ruining the flat, stale, badly composed pseudo-photorealism, it's just too ugly and totally just random splatters.

[thomasthetans]

Some of the Modern art paintings were very amazing, but I agree with you. I feel that most modern art have no type of skill or communication with the people. I feel that as an artist and a future animator I think skill should be treasured than splashing paint on a canvas and call that art. At the end of the day people who spend time and money into learning great techniques are just left to starve. It sickens me.

[MsMaggieOC]

We totally agree with you. Thank you for posting this!

[tomoliver12345]

I agree with you so much, I've been looking around universities to see where I want to study next year and everything I see just looks like crap, it has no feeling for me. I like variations of styles, but I just feel that if I go to university now I'm going to end up going downhill and producing crap.

[schmopykins]

not all of the art on your slides was bad, most was, but not all. I do agree modern art for the most part pales in comparison to a more traditional version of art. Now modern sculptures are terrible and a slap in the face to very good work. And fantasy art is incredible.

[s2jtbazns2]

stfu u poffta

[MufasaSays]

reminds me of the news story about the baby doing modern art, the narrator kept saying things like "perhaps she actually has some scheme, or plan to make art this good"

... just lol

[KhagarBalugrak]

@JooJooBnutz, well, your view of modern art is sane. People have to deeply delude themselves or be brainwashed in order to "appreciate" this garbage. The same is true of modern poetry, modern music, and modern dance. Artists, since the start of the 20th century, have decided to produce ugliness to say "fuck you" to ordinary people and to raise themselves in their eyes above the common herd. But they also have deceived themselves into thinking they are producing beauty.

[Micro8Bit]

While I share very similar views with you on modern art, what was wrong with 0:39? The person who made that seemed to possess talent.

[WatchfulVendor]

My god people, stop wasting time arguing on a comments page and lead by example if you think an art style is not worthwhile.

[MrKipW]

Some of it I like, some of it I don't.

It's all art (and you never said it wasn't), but you don't have to like it.

As to "bound to get rich," I think not. A fortunate few can manage that, and many more try but don't find a good shtick or just fail for some reason or another. Certainly, the good ones aren't always rewarded, and the bad ones are around too much. If it was as easy and automatic as you say, though, everybody would be doing it. I know I would be: I like money.

[bxjam85]

The best art is classical art in my opinion. When I say classical art, I don't just mean art that features Greco-Roman customs. I mean art that is formal, restrained, clear, detailed and symmetrical. The degeneration of art began with the romanticist movement.

[stoersignal25]

art is a free way of expression, the most rediculass job are art-criticas (my language) how can you judge art? what a person has done, do get into the flow, to get out of it´s mind, when i was 14 , i was the same critcal, but now i understand, i can ´t judge peoples art, becouse it´s there language to turn there insides out. you talk about "perfekt technike" this is very differnt from expressing any kind of feelings

[animeguy12]

@stoersignal25

Since when is Art about your feelings? Why does everything today have to be about peoples feelings? Who cares about your feelings.

[bxjam85]

@animeguy12 Indeed! I've had it up to here with our decadently sentimental liberal egalitarian culture.

[Muzikman127]

I dislike a lot of modern art don't get me wrong- but if art is purely about realism then what's the point in it- why not just dispense with it and take photograps?

[Chaaarge]

I don't like art that is just romantic, or just realistic. I prefer something called romantic realism. Basically making life more interesting than it actually is

[nerdking731]

What dou you think would look better? The Sistine Chapel or a paint bucket thrown at a wall?

[MateWiggy]

Bring back the renaissance, well put. Let's all boycot this ugliness that is called modern art. We can appreciate a beuatifully created painting. Damn the cretines who splatter paint on canvas and call it art. G damn retards

[MOLSVIN]

Hahah 30? You're art taste is more 75+!

[trilobright]

I'm a critic of a lot of post-WW2 nonrepresentational art myself, but your taste is straight up lowbrow. You seem to think that wolf t-shirts worn by teenagers with assburgers are the pinnacle of artistic expression.

[fablan6]

@Zephyraven 4)... I really really dare you. Or to the movie industry and try to be an actor and act like shit and ask to have a part in a movie! Go on try it. Or maybe a cook (that's art too) and just throw ingredients randomly and say this crap that modern "artists" say about their work. Go on do it!! Let's see how it works. But in visual arts like painting it's so vague that you can pretty much do anything and get away with it, even become known! Give me a break dude...

[fablan6]

@Zephyraven 3).... since everyone told him how good his clothes are, he believed it himself that he's not naked. And that goes on and creates this infinite loop and we have reached this horrid point today. You all want to be something and you chose art since it's the "easier" way. I dare you to go to the music industry and try to play the piano without a single knowledge on how to do it and just hit keys randomly like a retard and tell them "ooh it has deeper meaning that you don't understand"..

[fablan6]

@Zephyraven 2) ...will look at their art and PRETEND like they understand it cause again, nobody can tell them "no you don't understand it, it doesn't mean this but it means that" and they will do it only cause they will want to look very deep and thoughtful. That creates an endless chain where one feeds the other and they both keep on existing. Like the naked king. He was naked but everyone pretended like he was clothed so that he wouldn't put them in jail, leading to him believe that since....

[fablan6]

@Zephyraven 1) Also, the problem is that people understand realism/photorealism while in the other hand abstract art isn't comprehensible and anyone can say anything about it. Taking that into consideration there will be people that will do abstract art and pretend like it has some deeper meaning just cause they will take advantage the fact it's incomprehensible and nobody will be able to tell them otherwise. They can say anything they want about it! Then some other people will look.............

[fablan6]

@Zephyraven That was one of the shallowest arguments I heard. We also have Corel Painter and Adobe Photoshop so why use acrylics and oils? Also we got 3D programs so why use actors in movies? Also we have computer programs that can create entire orchestras so why learn piano and violin and guitar? You modern "artists" are seriously harming art. Take your heads out of your asses and go do something else. You ruined art more than enough.

[fablan6]

@Zephyraven "Realism has limitations and is not creative therefore it's not true art." You probably, no, DEFINITELY haven't seen enough realistic art. Try and look at some fantasy art that is realistic. Google "Magic the Gathering" for starters and look at the plethora of pictures. There are so many board & video games/books etcetera with amazing realistic art who's content is so bizarre I bet my right arm you couldn't even dream of it.

[fablan6]

I am willing to bet that everyone in here that rants about this video and calls realism "not art" while they praise modern "art" are probably really really bad at drawing. They probably wanted to be great artists as kids and then while growing up realised that their skills were crap and they'd never be good so they dreamed of so they decided to look at it from a different view. Or they are just idiots...

[trilobright]

@fablan6

No, I like many artists under 35 (especially in New England and Atlantic Canada) are actually strong proponents of a return to representational art, and view everything after Pollock as a dead horse that was beaten beyond recognition long, long ago. However the stuff this video holds up as "real art" is laughable kitsch, akin to velvet paintings of Dale Earnhardt at the shooting range with Jesus. Video games aren't art, nor are Warhammer figurines, nor is anime or "mawnguh".

[fablan6]

@trilobright 1) I have reasons why I believe video games and warhammer figurines are art. Do you have arguments why they aren't?

Video games for example have scenario, graphics, sound, direction etc etc etc. Why is a book that has only scenario art and a video game with scenario isn't? Why is a painting art and a video game that has so many pictures not art? Why is music art and a video game with so many sound effects and music pieces not art? Not to mention the fact that video games are the....

[fablan6]

@trilobright 2)... the only thing that has interaction? You chose what to do. What path you'll follow etc. In movies, books and other forms of art you just watch. You don't interact, you don't make choices. You can't choose whether the actor will do this thing instead of that no matter how many times you watch that movie.

As for warhammer figurines, they are sculptures. But I guess, if they were incoherent pieces of clay that made no sense you'd be calling them masterpieces now...

[fablan6]

@trilobright 3) As for manga, they are comics. Haven't you heard that comics are art? Some of them have great artwork and amazing stories to tell. Saying that you just don't consider it art, generalizing like that and trying to be "funny" by saying "mawnguh" makes me only to not take you seriously at all. My best guess is that it's probably jealousy that leads you to these thoughts cause you can't draw as good.

Same exactly for anime.

[fablan6]

Ι am so glad I'm not the only one with these beliefs.

[FineHawaiianArt]

all artists on the planet should look to the late Herb Kane as an icon for what they should aim to accomplish in their lifetime in their own way. the man single handedly restored a nearly lost indiginious culture restored the practice of ocean voyaging through celestial navigation with the founding of the polynesian voyaging society and the practice of building a traditional double hulled canoe from detailed sketches he made from careful study and research. fairwell uncle herb.

[1OneChosen2]

1:27 that's probably the only piece of modern art i'd spend money on

[TheKravojed]

modern art, the only thing worse than Justin Biber

[TheKravojed]

modern art = shit

[cpickell1987]

you sir - are a knob.

[adriantepes2112ds]

i love to see these people who post on here and expose there elite attitudes you can tell which camp they come from. "If everything is art than nothing is art" -Fred Ross

[XxxxExclusivexxxX]

modern art cannot be judged, because it resembles nothing. so you cant compare it to anything

[EATshitanddrinkbleac]

modern art cannot be realism.

[tonowicz1]

I admire your willingness to expose yourself as a cretin of the highest order. The so called real art that you exhibit here is the lowliest and simplest of all the arts. It is mechanical, homogenized and lacking in soul. I truly felt nothing while looking at your abhorrent arrangement of kitsch animals and tacky landscapes. I am only sorry for you that you will never truly grasp a greater analysis of the human condition than the poorly rendered, barely competent crap that you parade here.

[fablan6]

@tonowicz1 Your drawing skills must be horrible.

And it's obvious that you are full of shit when you see a bunch of amazingly good drawings that require extreme skill and technique and call them "poorly rendered, barely competent crap"? I mean, even if you do feel that realism is not art and you want to oppose it you still can't use these words! It's like if I don't like Ferraris I'll go and say that they are "slow like hell". It would make no sense!! They are anything BUT slow!!!

[tonowicz1]

@fablan6 Realism is art. Photorealism is art. However, the pictures above are crass, clumsy, devoid of emotive qualities, basic, flat, dull, and uninspired. In the same way that Britney Spears is a great musician, McDonalds is great food, H&M are great clothes designers, Tescos are great purveyors of food, this is great art. There is a degree of technical competence in some of this work and that is all. It is not compelling art in any sense.

[fablan6]

@tonowicz1 So now you turned it around! Nice.. And how do you know that it is uninspired? At least half the stuff he showed at the second half of the video are pictures that require imagination that a modern "artist" couldn't even dream of! Literally!! Not even in his dreams he'd see such pictures and you call them flat, dull and uninspired. Now my guess is that not only you are really bad at drawing/painting but you also have no original ideas and imagination. In other words, jealous and bitter

[tonowicz1]

@fablan6 I haven't turned anything around. Just because this work can be classed as realism doesn't make it interesting to look at. There are some excellent realist and photorealist artists, just that none are shown in this video. This work is merely hobby art, or at best competent illustration. I'm sorry to repeat myself, but this work is mediocre and in the same vein as any pop or mainstream creations. I am no more jealous of this, than I am of the TV show 'the X factor'.

[fablan6]

@tonowicz1 I thought you said it was "poorly rendered, barely competent crap". Unless you don't know the meaning of words in which case you shouldn't use them in the first place, you can't go around now and use different new arguments.

[tonowicz1]

@fablan6 My point remains the same. This work is barely competent. I have said nothing to the contrary.

[PatchworkGirlofOZ]

@tonowicz1

Oh no, don't you see? If it's not phororealistic it doesn't count as art. Symbolism? Emotions? Everyone knows that shit isn't art.

Bowls of fruit are art because it's painting a literal bowl of fruit.

What does it mean? Who cares? Art isn't about what something means, art is about looking pretty and realistic. Being pretty and realistic are the only thing that matters in art.



[Trebledeaf]

someones hating!!.. haha

[ScrapedfromSealings]

Anti-Intellectualism....awesom­e you have the precise opinions of a NAZI now. Read a book.

[KhagarBalugrak]

Some of the real art you showed me here took my breath away. I cannot understand how anyone could be so stupid as to think splattered paint, squiggly lines that look like dyed pubes, or (in the case of one artist) tin cans filled with his shit count as art - and even more infuriatingly - is better than representational art!

[KhagarBalugrak]

It's not just life, but beauty, that real artists attempt to create. Modern art tries, and succeeds, in creating ugliness. Therefore, it's anti-art.

[Rahab111222]

Modern/contemporary art is simply a self aggrandizing fashionable trend to millionaire collectors. They're commercial products that are meant to decorate million dollar lofts and offices, the artists and common folk are merely suckers into thinking there's any more to it than that.

[ConflictedMike]

Your "real" art as you call it is not art at all it's what they did before they had cameras. Also i find if funny that you say you're from a family of artist but are openly ragging on people not conforming to your idea of art.

[Ofbladesfire]

Search - "NEAR RUIN - THE MASTERPEICE" Its a song about modern art.

[thedrumbum1990]

I think you are confusing the terms 'art', which is generic and 'realism', which is just one branch of art. The modern world needs a freer channel of expression than just pretty paintings of animals and nature.

[gushplop]

you don't sound very educated, the realistic examples that you show, except the "hare" of Durer, exposes a very white trash taste.

[philnoll]

@Zephyraven Photo-realism is creative in the technique you use, and what you decide to create. Photography itself is real art. There's also realistic body art, realistic sidewalk art, etc. And I still disagree with you that you are born with creativity or not. I think creativity is acquired. Anyhow, I'm a fan of Chris Van Allsburg. why don't you suggest one of your favorite artists for me to look at.

[philnoll]

@Zephyraven I know what I am doing. Anyway, my point is that realism doesn't exist. To transfer something from object to image, there is a change. i don't understand your point. Representational art is not true art unless it colors outside of the lines?

[philnoll]

@Zephyraven I disagree completely. Drawing is a talent, and some people have a natural aptitude for it, some people don't. Your assessment that everyone has equal potential is an obvious falsehood.

And then, saying realistic art "ISN'T ART"...? Sure, Richard Estes isn't a real artist. Anyone can do that. But Warhol's 32 soup cans, that takes real talent.

[philnoll]

@Zephyraven But that's just not true. All that fantasy realism is not just copying. Plus if you can't draw, realism isn't a realistic goal. Modern art on the other hand is perfect for people who can't draw. All you have to do is express yourself. Express yourself however you want. We were all born with the ability to express ourselves.

We weren't all born with the ability to draw photo-realism.

[philnoll]

@Zephyraven Realism takes a lot of practice. Its not easy.

[DrCurcio94]

i got to a art school if u do modern art u get like picked on

[colfr10]

"trust me I know crap when i see it?" Ok I respect your point of view... Yeah its Pollock you splatter paint on the Canvas, its called Dripping... ummm yeah its modern art but you know what go and take History class courses, art history and influences comme even from de Middle age so you just dont know ANYTHING!

[Hipstersinspace]

Sorry to say this, but a lot of that so-called "good art" you showed, especially the fantasy art, was UNBELIEVABLY tacky.

[Hipstersinspace]

I find a lot of realistic art to be gauche, such as the works of Thomas Kinkade and Walter and Margaret Keane.

And a lot of the modern art you showed looks like it in fact does take a good bit of effort and even technical skill to make, and a lot of the realistic art you showed, I thought was extremely tacky.

You just come off as both an elitist and a philistine. This would sound somewhat reasonable in the 1850s, but not now.

[CaballeroCatalan]

The real question is... what kind of pretentious weirdo buys modern art in the first place?

[AmericanNohbuddy]

@DeityofStuff

an elephant painting or monkey painting looks like splatter paintings of "modern artists". Let's see a monkey do a mona lisa.

[jaknife99]

Some of the modern 'art' you showed was actually nice looking and a few look like they actually took some planning and skill and not some mindless splashing.

But I think your putting a too specific definition on skilled art. And a broad genralization on modern 'art.'

Some of the first ones you showed seemed like they were impressionists in nature.

0:46 I have no idea what its supposed to be but I think they knew what they were doing

1:26 was also nice, these took skill IMO

[OdinCalls14]

Modern art is an oxymoron.

[BobMcCob]

You have bad taste and you have no clue what art is.

[Auricdeath]

Modern art isn't a meritable concept lol, art's art, provocative expressionism to make the viewer question themselves and their world. Every good artist's a reflection of the world they live in. You're not an artist if you don't steal something and make it your own, nothing new exists under the Sun, only new ways to destroy what already exists. I hate abstract art, because it says nothing, it's shit, it's just "prettiness" Art has to be a story, it's SUPPOSED to fuck things up, to rebell.

[Billymaysfan6837]

I like the Impressionists the best when it comes to art (I'm no art expert though), and I agree that modern/contemporary art sucks. I went to MOMA, one of the paintings there was just a black squiggly line on a white canvas. I'm not joking. What. The. Fuck.

[aphilby]

In answer to your question "why can't people just do this?" People do do this. It's right there on the screen. Plenty of people do this. It takes lots of patience and studying but so does being a doctor, so does designing a car, so does anything you aim to do well.

[aphilby]

I love that bunny painting, but what it is is a painting of a bunny and it doesn't need the elevating label of art and I would say nothing does. Anything that can be done can be done well and there's nothing especially holy about creating the illusion of reality.

[aphilby]

That's not art. It's a painting of a squirrel.

[p717]

I taught myself anatomy based upon the work of Albrecht Durer, the "hare" you posted. Modern t is over 100 years old, so it's not new..it's "standard". I'll agree with you regarding the work of Paul Klee, Gauguin or any modern avoidance of effort, but I do think that sometimes, abstract art (like Dali) can be layered with detail and meaning. It's just that "abstract" became an excuse for no talent hacks to be treated as equals to Pre-Raphaelites and other post renaissance high art.

[zackink]

I think you are underestimating the abilities of "modern artists". Pollock, Newman, Kandinsky, Picasso, De Kooning, and all the other artists you think are talentless hacks can actually paint competently in a realistic style... they were just creative enough to create something new to art.

I also think you are confusing "modernist" art (1940s-70s) with contemporary art... contemporary art is extremely diversified and no genre in art is dominant over the other genres anymore

[JAt0m]

@Ozzrya91

youre right man classic art became kinda boring and i really like the pic with the cat

drawing another one, i am doing acrylic on canvas aswell and i cant really understand why he allows himself making me down, maybe im not yet too good, but the paintings took alot of time and you need to create multiple layers to have some real effect of depth

[Chnamanjx]

Impressionist is the best art.

[ddscad2]

Im a painter, and can paitn in both world, let me tell you something i enjoy modern art and realist art, the realistic art is most tecnique the modern art can be very expressive and spontaneous. I love it. Check my website and you can see both worl

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[ddscad2]

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[hotwhire]

fantasy looks brilliant.

[hotwhire]

Modern art is an excuse to frame talentless fools.

[hotwhire]

Abstract is too easy. it's worthless

[AnAbstractFragment]

I have to say, I both agree and disagree with you. If everyone painted an apple realistically, it'd look exactly like an apple every-time. I'm no art prodigy, or even a real big art student but art should be subjective, and change from person to person. Abstract art is making it personal, and thoughtful. Most abstract art I agree, is crap with a fancy name or splattered around paint, but art doesn't need to be realistic looking to be art.

[rspkk0]

modern art, or abstract art is complete pure shit

[DiverseLA]

With all due respect, your argument sucks in this video.

Here's the thing. I can agree with you on that bullshit "Modern Art" that requires little to no skill. The stuff where people fling paint on a canvas. Or grab a bunch of dishrags and staple it to wood. Or fill the inside of a TV with styrofoam.

But a lot of the modern art you posted does take talent. The stuff you like is just boring. Many modern artists can do your "real" art, but got bored & wanted to explore new things creatively.

[ehilado06]

I totally agree with you sir and all so called "MODERN ARTISTS" just freakin die.

[xXEPICSXx92x]

So true man, i cant fucking understand it, traditional art is the best!!!

[Imonlysleeping9]

"Realism" is not the goal of great art. Now, I'm no large fan of modern art, but this saccarine, kitschy crap doesn't cut it either. Art need a soul beneath it, and it needs a level of complexity that works to embody that soul. The 'real' artists you've shown are complex but void of that inner meaning, so they end up embodying emptiness. Real art is Rembrandt.. or El Greco... artists who DO take liberties with the form for the purpose of embodying a personal vision.

[Kurturmis]

@Imonlysleeping9  good point, I agree.

[DeOmegus]

Most modern artists are actually quite skilled in some of their more realistic pieces, this style of art is based on perspective, not lack of talent in replicating what already exists. The genre of Modern Art, an artist creates for oneself, visualizing a complex or subject through less literal representations. Accenting more on emotional state rather than image itself. I enjoy the dynamic energy and color flow behind a piece, even if it doesn't look like the tree its modeled from. -Art is many.

[ermacmk16]

my 2 years old sister can make modern art in five minutes.....this are not artists ....this are guys on drugs who need to be stoped for doing this shit

[TheTomatoberry]

What you're calling 'real art' isn't what I'd define as art at all. To be art, a painting or sculpture needs to be saying something. Looking as real as possible is nice, I'd certainly put some of those you show us on my living room wall. But it's just a pretty picture, not 'art'. But then again I sound like Ruskin.

[DiverseLA]

@TheTomatoberry The guy who made this video seems to have little understanding of art. His idea of art is that it must ALWAYS look as "realistic" and like a trompe l'oeil painting. That's it. Nothing more. But a lot of that "real art" was boring & just generic.

Again, I'm critical of Modern Art too, when it's that garbage of just randomly splattered paint, or an assembly of phone books taped to a tire or something else that anyone can do.

[mrmonkeyisland1]

Modern art is bullshit. Total, complete, utter, bullshit! Anybody can throw a tin of paint at a blank canvas!! It's totally worthless and empty. It requires no skill, no thought, no emotion. Epic fail.

[scalemodellingtips]

go educate yourself , im sorruy for you

[ehilado06]

@scalemodellingtips what educate yourself to be one of these so called "MODERN ARTISTS" that don't do real art by just splattering paint and smearing them. 

[KinGSoverign09]

damn good video my friend

[zxzc77]

when i was 5! i made art that was better then Modern "art".

[Kostya818]

What's the point of realism AFTER the invention of Pictures and Videos. What's the point of trying to replicate reality, when you can just go out and photograph it or film it? Don't you see how the advent of video and photo technology killed the pursuit of realism in art?

[badacyborg]

Because it's fun, duh?

Honestly, art that doesn't show years of discipline is not worth my time. If everyone in society half-assed their work like Modern Artists, then we'd be fucked. Every fucker on this planet has emotions, and you just spilled yours on the canvas. Congratu-fucking-lations.

This guy posted up Fantasy art, which is EASILY better than any modern art I've seen.

Time, skill, imagination. That's what real art is.

Seriously, we need to raise our standards of art.

[DiverseLA]

@Kostya818 That's exactly right. "Realistic" art started to die down in the late 1800's and early 1900's during the advent of cameras & video. And around that time "abstract" art started to pop up. If the guy who made this video studied art history, he'd know that "realistic" art at one time had the functional purpose of recreating a scene, a portrait, or whatever because photographs didn't exist. It will still have its place but I'd rather have art say something than just be pretty or "real".

[Kostya818]

HaHa....what an ignorant video!!!!

[MKDgangster]

the main difference between modern and real art is that anyone can make modern art, but it takes an artist to make real art

[spiffyxpandaxgirl]

i agree alot! i remember when someone said to me "real art is crap" and i was like omg..how can u say that..it takes alot of time and effort to do real art

[closetbeaner]

i agree with you. real art takes REAL talent

[RowanTolley02]

you do know that when you say "modern art" you are referring to a movement that started a hundred and forty years ago with artists like Monet. This movement is still going now. What you might be referring to is a separate faction of "modern" called abstraction.

[scratchmaster101]

you can't know art, because art is as different as the person who makes it. Some of the art is in the modern art section is good, shows perspective, and the qualities that someone who studied art would include. This is just my opinion. but i do agree, most modern art is just total crap. My aunt bought this peice of "art" and I thought it was a rock that she was going to use for something like furniture. some of the art today looks like someone rolled a canvas over a tragic car accident!

[RowanTolley02]

Why can't people just do realism? What kind of a question is that? Realisim becomes boring and cliched really quickly.

[RowanTolley02]

If we are able to make art whatever we want... why the fuck would you make it realistic?

[SuperChrono]

dude we must be on the same wave length cause everything you where going on about it true! i believe that modern art is draining the artist soul from people and they dont even realise it!

[BarrelRacer626]

I TOTALLY AGREE!

I look at modern art in museums and i think even I can do better than them -.-

[DeOmegus]

Post key to early *ehem* Trying to portray. I wonder if a novelist ever gets pissed at a poet? Instead of creating an entire story with plot and climax, the poet scribbles a couple of sentences that sound amusing..."Sham I say.. wheres the main character? What the point? This isn't art, its just senseless babble!"

[scratchmaster101]

personally, that's why i think some poetry, if it doesn't have political or moral satire, is shit. i watch a butterfly fly by in the bustling city like elephants singing of holy hymns. as the women wail their love lost lost lost i sing in rain for those who are fig leaves will never dance with hungry goats that was my poetic representation of the isolation of company.

[DeOmegus]

Seems like a limited viewpoint. Sure as with any form of art there are going to be pieces that look like melted ice cream. To say however modern art is in anyway a negative influence on society, taking away work, warping the market? Is just Blind-sided ego. So what if an image sucks, or its a damn masterpiece....the truth behind any stunning piece is not how much it looks like something already in existance, but the idea that its trying to protry

[whalehunting]

I would agree the modern art you displayed in the video is rather pitiful, but I don't understand your view that art should be realistic. What is realistic? By your definition it would seem that only one sense organ is used in the perception of art. The feeling center in a man or woman is another tool of perception that can be stimulated by a few simple colours. In your view, what is the purpose of art? Also, may I see some of your work?

[xitachix]

@whalehunting one doesn't need to be able to create art to be able to judge it... but that's not the point. it doesnt have to be realistic, but at least have visual quality since art at its very core is visual and emotional when u take away the visual and leave emotional that is incomprehensible to the viewer its pointless. you must complete the project.

[xitachix]

@whalehunting for instance if i crapped on a piece of modern art and recorded myself doing it... no one would enjoy it because they can't know. Now if i video taped it someone would enjoy it... but only because they aren't a pretentious idiot who thinks modern art is good.

[xitachix]

most often modern art is obtuse and you can't relate to it, and if you say you can... your a liar.

[xitachix]

and not all modern art specifically is bad i have seen some nice modern art but only because it abandoned the abstract idea