hey is the. loser truckdriver still lieing...sorry i been busy working 70plus hrs.on the new suv at the chicago plant.O thats rigth the truck drive said we wasnt getting it.lol
National Institute for Labor Relations Research documented 2,193 incidents of union violence between 1991 and 2001, including numerous acts of attempted murder. These figures include only violent acts reported in the media; many acts of violence are not reported out of fear of reprisal. From an interview with Cathy Jones, July 22, 2003.
This video convieniently leaves out the facts like gov't regulations, foreign subsidies, and labor laws that give the advantage to China and Japan, etc. and tries to lay the blame entirely on Labor. And tries to imply the UAW thinks it is better than the average worker. All lies! The UAW doesn't fight for only the UAW's wage but all worker's wages. Keep buying foreign and turn your back on your neighbor and watch the rich get richer and the rest of us work at WalMart.
6.Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8.Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9.Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
Americans against Americans who fight for higher pay for ALL working Americans. I just don't get it. Are you telling me you don't want to earn more for your days work and have some representation? Its a proven fact that when workers earn more they buy more. Your logic to drag everyone to a lower standard is mind boggling...please explain how that betters your country?
@597914 How is socialism that you want better than capitalism? Socialism fails every time it's tried. If people want more money, they earn it. Not extort it like unions do. People can work harder, get a better paying job, work more than one job, work more hours, or start a business. All you want to do is punch a time clock, do as little work as possible and whine about pay. If you care about people having more money, you wouldn't support people who want higher taxes and more gov. regulations.
@43m1garand Everything you claim is possible by working hard was won by the unions. You know nothing about the struggle that workers al over the world have made to get to where we are now. You are a fool to think any Rich CEO gives a damn about you! and without the workers there would be no profits to count idiot!
@597914 You are so stupid and blind. CEOs care about their workers. Workers are what help companies grow. Unions don't care about anyone except themselves. They are in bed with the Democrats to have the Dems to pass laws that they want passed.
@43m1garand yeah really why would you want any laws passed that create more jobs for more americans? that would be terrible! i know lets make it easier to ship American jobs overseas! then big corporations can rake in even MORE profits at the expense of their country! You sir are a m1moron!
@597914 Dems cause jobs to go to other countries. It's called taxes and regulations. But since you are a union hack that just puts your time in, you wouldn't know that. Only the private sector creates jobs, not the government. I know, you hate the rich because you're jealous. You'll never be anything more than a time clock puncher and a cry baby liar.
@597914 Corporations no matter how big and people no matter how rich can raise taxes, take away freedoms, or start wars. they don't have the power. Only a government can do that. It has a monopoly on force. Government does not create jobs or wealth. Rich people create jobs. I never worked for a poor person. You hate the rich because you hate success and want them punished by wealth redistribution which is socialism and communism. It is not your money. They earned it. Not you. You are jealous.
@43m1garand Rich CEOs earned their money off the blood and sweat of the workers. And don't give a damn about them. Bring on the next poor sucker to take advantage of. Ford, Jr. can't build 50 thousand trucks a month by himself! your logic is so stupid! You want to shit on labor AND YOU ARE LABOR...what a m1moron!
@597914 People don't get rich magically, brilliant. They work hard for it and take huge risks. And you want to punish them for being successful. You want to take their money which is stealing. Taxes are legalized theft. If you had any ambition you could start a business too. But all you can do is cry and blame everyone else for your problems. You keep engaging in class warfare which is what socialism and Nazism is about. You hate the rich and are jealous of them.
m1moron...your beloved Toyo, Hondo, Hyndo and VW took 3 BILLION from the tax payers in three southern states and NEVER have to pay it back. I thought you didn't like the gov't giving away your money? That IS A FACT...NOW call me a liar! Did Rush or Beck tell you that? NO! They tell 100% of HALF of the truth 99% of the time! LOL!!! YOu know NOTHING about Labor, labor laws, the economy or the UAW...READ the Toledo Accord! ..oh wait YOU CAN'T READ! You have to have Beck tell you!
@597914 They didn't take money, loony. GM and Chrysler did because they suck and people don't want their crap cars. They also can't run a business. Chrysler is so bad that not only can't they sell cars, no one wants to own the company. Mitsubishi wouldn't buy it in the 1990's, Daimler Benz then Cerberus sold Chrysler after a short ownership. Chrysler had a previous bailout in 1979. GM changed GMAC to a bank to get even more bailout money from bank bailouts. GM didn't pay back it's bailout either
This video convieniently leaves out the facts like gov't regulations, foreign subsidies, and labor laws that give the advantage to China and Japan, etc. and tries to lay the blame entirely on Labor. And tries to imply the UAW thinks it is better than the average worker. All lies! The UAW doesn't fight for only the UAW's wage but all worker's wages. Keep buying foreign and turn your back on your neighbor and watch the rich get richer and the rest of us work at WalMart.
The REAL refusal to face reality is that the same public that opposes any bailout fof the US auto companies ignores the FACT that the US subsidizes the foreign auto companies at the tune of over 3 billion in 3 of our southern states that they were never asked to pay back. Thats your tax dollars to Toyo, Hondo, Hundo and VW. Where is the outrage toward that? Your agenda is clear when all the facts are on the table.
The people who hate the unions so much are the ones who could never stand having themselves for a boss! GM is constantly setting the rules and are the first to break them. without my UAW representation we would still be working in dangerous unsafe factories in a horrible environment. Your mind is made up. I'm not here to change it, but I won't lies be spead about what we really are for and about. We don't force anything from anyone.we negotiate for the better.
@597914 You are such a liar. Unions represent about 7% of US workers. That would mean most work places are dangerous. OSHA makes sure work places are safe. Department of Labor makes sure workers get paid. You never one said one word about all the illegal activities unions are involved in and have done in the past. You think unions are perfect and never do anything wrong. Just like you think the Messiah Barry Obama is perfect. Wall Street had nothing to do with GM building junk cars.
@dancefan2007 give m1garad facts and discussion and all he does is call people liars and names there is no reasoning there. He will take what you say twist it and call you a racist, socialist or nazi. Its like he has a script from Beck in front of him. He gives mostly paranoid rants. And knows knothing about the UAW like that UAW pensions are run through VEBA thus relieving the companies from carrying the liability for their health plans on their accounting books. All he knows is what Beck says
@597914 I give you proof but you ignore it. Let's see what you say about this. UAW was trying to negotiate a contract Sunday at GM in Indianapolis, IN to cut STARTING wages in half to sell the plant. The UAW was ran out of the room by Obama Motors workers. It is report on World Socialist Web Site
@597914 Tax payers are responsible for UAW pensions because TAX PAYER MONEY bailed out GM an Chrysler. Bailout was not paid back by GM either. You kept going on and on about Rush earlier now you blab about Beck. I think you are infatuated with them. You just regurgitate union talking points and get your news from Keith Olbermann - Count Down To No Ratings.
@597914 O he thinks he knows every thing because he drives a parts truck to a plant. like i been to the airport so i should know how to fly a plane.lol i hope ford stops useing non union drivers.then this loser can cry some more
@AJstar9 You can't figure out how to do a little manual labor, Mister Unskilled Labor Union Worker. You sure couldn't fly a plane. But you do have the sitting on your butt for long hours part down though. A druggie like you flying a plane. That's scary.
@43m1garand CALL ME WHAT YOU WANT IF YOU GOT THE BALLS TO Call me a druggie to my face you cock sucking crybaby i will be at f 32 all fucking week see all you can do is call people name when your wrong
@AJstar9 You keep being hostile and threatening. You keep getting your panties in a wad and having a conniption fit like a snot nosed kid. Typical white trash wanting to fight. Grow up.
@AJstar9 He rips on "unskilled labor" yet knows nothing about the hours of training it takes to run a modern factory. Spreads lies about line workers on their phones. Hey m1garand (M1moron, as I call him) Team Leaders are assigned phones for plant communication purposes and are required to talk on them. personal phones are banned for safety reasons except in break areas. m1moron knows nothing about today's factories or unions.
@dancefan2007 I'm sick and tired of morons who say CEOs are overpaid. I want to see your ass run a company and deal with the unions, government regulations, taxes along with doing the other things required to run a company. People who bitch about CEOs are jealous because they don't make that much and use class warfare. These are idiots who want success punished. CEOs work for their money and are paid what they are worth. They are paid a lot to stay with a company and run it and not go elsewhere.
@AJstar9 Ford originally wanted a bailout. So you can yap all you want. Ford is not doing so great. Ford did some "accounting management" that made it look like it made a huge profit. I'll compare Honda any day to Ford. Honda's sales increased 1% while everyone else's dropped by double digits. Ford closed several plants, laid off 1000's, canceled Mercury, and is selling Volvo. Previously Ford sold Jaguar, Land Rover, and Aston Martin.
@AJstar9 Not true. Ford, GM, and Chrysler only sell what they do because they are cheap crap. The manufactures and dealers ALWAYS have sales and incentives to get rid of their crap even when the economy was good. It's funny. Every commercial they say it is the biggest sale ever. Buy now. What a joke. Everyone knows Toyota and Honda are the best. That is why they keep comparing the Detroit 3 junk to Toyota and Honda. So when is Ford going to make a jet? Honda does.
@43m1garand FORD DONT EVEN BUILD THE CARS ARE TAALKING ABOUT ANYMORE.THE FACT IS FORD BUILDS BETTER CARS THAN TOYOTA RIGTH NOW.SELL ALOT MORE THAN HONDA
It will be interesting to watch the UAW negotiate union contracts with itself since the UAW is part owner of GM and Chrysler along with the federal government.
uaw isnt giving anything back!jobs gone overseas because cheap china people make 5 dollars a day.the uaw dont make 3 time more then toyota workers.uaw dont make 70 dollar a hour.your a nut job trying to sell a lame book
@AJstar9 There are two reasons the UAW is still here: sheer numbers, and the threat they pose a company when contract negotiations come around. Answer me this: if you owned a business, and could hire either a union worker (at a higher wage) or a non-union worker to do the same job, and the skill set was the same, what would you do? If you were honest, you would go non-union, as there is no advantage. In this case, the expertise is the same, and labor cheaper. However, the union would picket!
@AJstar9 By picketing a business, union try to extort work and artificially higher wages. It's cra*. In the real world there is competition. Businesses are in business to turn a profit. You maximize profit by lowering cost of production, and selling at a reasonable price. In my example of carpenters: a local business chose to hire non-union carpenters. They got good quality work at a better price. The business saved money. The union has picketed for months. The business has not buckled.
@AJstar9 In such a case, the business wins. This is the way it should be. Auto manufacturers should be able to hire whomever they please. If it were not for the unions being able to shut them down (and in some cases, threaten violence), the auto manufacturers would hire cheaper labor, and get the same quality. It's not rocket science. Unions rape the free market system. Honestly, a lot of Americans would and could do auto manufacturing jobs for 1/2 the wage of a union worker.
@AJstar9 The worker would still earn a good wage (1/2 a union wage is still a good wage, and is way better than minimum wage!), and the business would be able to make the product cheaper, and sell it at a better price. This would make them more competetive, and possibly allow them to undercut and REALLY outsell Toyota by even more. This is simple logic, and a fact. Honestly, you can not argue in favor of a labor union and make sense. It's self protection and selfishness.
@rgeorge9260 Your logic is a race to the bottom. Wages are not the reason GM, etc are not competitive it is MUCH more than that! It is unfair trade laws, high tariffs, and devalued currency by foreign countries. That's a known FACT. Labor to produce steel is about $50/hr to make here yet it cost 2Xs that to buy it from foreign and ship it here. US labor cost is NOT the reason we can't compete. Its why we can! Know the REAL facts.
@AJstar9 Of course you don't want your wage cut. Who would? But the reality is that your wage is not real. It's artificially high due to legal extortion. Yeah, you can gripe about the millions CEO's make and the bonuses paid, but that's a smokescreen and a deflection away from the fact that your wage is not real. It's a justification of your wage, and it's not based in logic. I'm not a 'hater'; I'm honest. Union power has been on the decline for years, and will eventually disappear.
@AJstar9 Unions are not for the middle class. They are for socialism. You need to listen to what former president of SEIU said. rgeorge9260 and I are for companies because they create jobs and help the economy. This is opposite of what unions do. Unions only represent about 7% of American workers because people don't want to belong. They see what unions do.
@AJstar9 Flat Rock is a joint Ford/Mazda plant. Ford owns Mazda. 900 people are laid off from Flat Rock. 700 from Chicago Assembly, Louisville Assembly and St. Thomas Assembly Canada are closing. My company hauls your stuff. Ford is not hiring. People at your plant in Chicago said workers from Louisville and those laid off from Chicago Assembly are being recalled to work in Chicago. Some will come from other plants. I still doubt you work at Ford. Everything you say is a lie.
@43m1garand i dont care what you a fucking dumb ass truck driver thinks.louisville isnt closeing but i guess ford dont tell your dumb ass every plan they do.and guess glen beck didnt tell you.your a fucking crybaby loser thats mad because autoworkers make more money than you.
@AJstar9 What are going to make in Louisville then? Why don't you answer a simple question? All you are doing is ranting and raving worse than a kid. What is Ford going to make in St. Thomas?
@AJstar9 Gee. Took long enough. You must have checked Wikipedia or Googled it. If you worked at Ford you would have known right away. Seems like you got your panties in a wad. Your just mad because I know what is going on with the UAW and I'm not letting you get away with lying.
@43m1garand you are wrong on every thing.and i can see your to much of a dumb ass to know anything ,i guess thats why your boss dont tell you anything
@AJstar9 Congress and the President only put up with unions for political gain. They know that losing the union vote would hose them. However, companies are pretty powerful too. They have lots of money, and now laws have changed again to allow companies to make unlimited contributions. They will try to hose unions, and they will win. You know why? Congress will see reason. Comapnies will say they can higher more workers, creating higher employment, if they can pay non-unio wages.
@AJstar9 Union will be hosed when both parties in power turn on them, and it will happen eventually. Obama's in a reach lurch right now. Unemployment is at an all time high, and he's getting hammered about it. There is going to be a real attraction to finding a way to get more people back to work. And if you want to keep your job, you'll need to accept a pay cut to stay competetive. I agree: the UAW has been hearing their power is diminishing for 20 years. The problem is that it's true!
@AJstar9 Dude, say what you want, but I'm right. I'm highly educated, and work in an industry where I have been forced to keep competetive, or face being out of work. There have been cuts in labor and wages. I compete with Indians everyday, who make a pittance of what I do, yet they have the same (or better) skill set. My company has no union. The are doing very well. Do I like it? No! Do I gripe? I have, but for the most part, I accept the reality. You will too, eventually, like it or not.
@AJstar9 If I were an union worker, and nowhere near retirement, I would be trying to get an education outside the industry. Only those who are thinking ahead and PLAN for what is surely coming will be employed. Times are tough, and will get tougher. Unions have been on the decline for sometime, and will die out like the dinosaurs they are. They serve no purpose other than to artifically inflate wages, and that's wrong. Companies should be free to hire who they want, and at a competetive wage,
@AJstar9 My logic is inescapable and irrefutable. You vote Dem, don't you? And why? Is it because you believe in their ideology in it's entirety, or because they protect the union people who vote for them? Thus, they "buy" your vote, indirectly. "Vote for me, and keep your job". What happens when THEIR job becomes more important to them than yours? They are getting hammered about unemployment. It's tempting to support companies who promise to hire more people if wages are lowered.
@AJstar9 Who will you vote for when neither party offers you an advantage? You will be just like the rest of us. The government has allowed offshoring for years, in the name of competition. Your industry is not immune, my friend. These politicians will eventually turn on you too, and allow the free market to work. They will be heros, putting millions to work, and at a good wage. Think about it. It's coming... I can read the writing on the wall, what about you?
@AJstar9 Dude, you have a Union mentality, and can't see the forest for the trees! You argue a side whose only logic is protecting the dollar amount they make on the job. The company IS what it's all about, really. Without the company, there would be no job. And a company should have the right to hire whoever they want, for whatever wage they want, providing there are people who will fill the job for said wage, and can do the work. What part of this do you have an issue with?
@rgeorge9260 But george without the workers there would be no company. Ford builds 50k trucks a month...Bill Ford Jr couldn't do that by himself. UAW labor is $29.35 / hour at GM which is a little more than $60K a year for 40 hrs. and is comparible to most labor jobs like construction, etc. That isn't too much for a job that breaks your body down. Installing door panels for 8, 10, 12 hrs. on a moving line is not for eveyone.
@AJstar9 It's the American way. Why should a Union be able to FORCE someone to pay a certain amount of benefits and wages? It's legal robbery! Don't you hire non-union people to do some jobs, and pick between competetive bidders for such jobs? The company I work for hires the person with the best qualifications for the job at hand, and pays what the going market rate bears. In some cases, this is 6 figures. If the market is allowed to work like this, wages take care of themselves.
@rgeorge9260 george, the unions do not force anyone anything. Those wages are negotiated and in fact the UAW realizes the economic climate and have negotiated LOWER wages and benefits, yet the public still attacks us. The UAW is fighting for better living for everyone you included and we will continue that fight. When your employer says he's leaving to India you'll wish you had fair representation. You / me have no guarantee he will stay no matter how great of an employee you are.
@AJstar9 I'll bet the auto manufacturer you work for could hire two workers for the price of one Union worker, and the two people hired would be more than happy with their salary and benefits! Wouldn't this benefit more workers, employees and our economy? I also maintain Union workers are NOT always the best candidates for a job, but the Unions protect these people, and keep them from getting let go. That's wrong. Unions survive for one reason: Dems kiss UAW's butt to get their votes.
@rgeorge9260 Those days where a lowlife is protected are gone. There is no room in the team concept used by virtually every auto company to allow someone to take atvantage of the system. The UAW has accepted and ENCOURAGED changes in the contract to take away that protection to those who don't want to work. Your perception of the UAW is outdated. Those workers are gone, repalced by a younger more educated workforce willing to do what it takes. I hope you give us a chance. Thanks.
@AJstar9 You better pray that Congress does not get together (Dems and Repubs) and turn on the Unions to help solve unemployment. If Congress busted the unions, with the promise that companies would use the money saved to hire several employees to replace each union worker, you'd be sunk. I know it's been floated. Who would you vote for then, when neither party protects the outdated ideas of the union? I would say the current workers do not lose their jobs, but accept the wage & benefit changes.
@rgeorge9260 Believe me NO company would ever vote for that promise! Not even the republicans. Don't be fooled GM loves the UAW. They want us just as much as we need them. I know you don't believe me but there is a unique skill level to assembling autos that not everyone can do. All new hires come in at $14 (limited benefits) and that is locked in with a max of $18 depending on shift premiums. NOBODY wants MOREworkers!
@AJstar9 If I were a Union worker, I would be worried, and trying to plan for the future, NOT simply holding onto the belief that Unions will be able to protect your forever. The free market works. MOST companies are not union, and are living proof. Union had their place when laws were not there to protect the workers from company abuse. Now there are laws protecting workers: child labor laws, minimum wage laws, etc. Why do we need unions? To ARTIFICIALLY drive up wages and benfits?
@rgeorge9260 Believe me I / we are worried that is why we have made consessions in wages and benefits and take our job seriously. We know what is at stake. But don't you find it interesting that GM has given themselves back the raise they took away during the bankpruptcy and are lobbying the gov't to allow higher wages for their top level jobs? The UAW would rather see that money spead a little more evenly to everyone - all jobs - for teachers, law enforcement, service jobs, etc.
@AJstar9 If my local store hired a non-union carpenter, and the work was well-done, and they saved $2,5000 doing so, isn't that good for everyone? A carpenter made money and is happy, the store got work done, and saved money. Prices stay low for the consumer. I see no loser here but one: the idiot union guy who will now picket the store, because he did not get the job. He'll stand out there day after day, trying to punish the store for not hiring him, and extort work the next time.
@AJstar9 I say "good for the store", and hope they never buckle. The free market prevailed, and worked as it should. Unions have hurt the auto industry and manufacturing. Companies moved manufacturing overseas because they found people who could do the same jobs CHEAPER. If Americans wer willing to do the same, they would have stayed. These companies have no choice. They compete in a GLOBAL market. Other companies exist in Malaysia and other countries, and compete for business.
@rgeorge9260 unfortunately the global market is not fair. Did you know US built cars are limited in the percentage of the market they can occupy in Japan and Korea, etc. Not here. In china Buick is king. Japan's government protects their market and subsidizes their factories. Unions haven't hurt the industy. Unfair trade and labor agreements that encourage factories to relocate overseas does.
The struggle for civil and human rights never ends and the UAW fights for those rights.
@597914 Unions hurt auto companies along with taxes and regulations. Unions don't care about civil and union rights. If they did they wouldn't beat up people who disagree with them like the black man who was beat up by SEIU members. Also unions wouldn't be extorting money from companies in the form of higher pay and benefits that companies can't afford. Union dues are used to pay Democrats campaign money to push socialists agendas. Democrats are ran by Big Labor.
@rgeorge9260 Labor cost is the highest cost for companies but taxes and government regulations hurt too. The auto industry was already in trouble and Bush got the CAFE standards raised which didn't help with already struggling auto companies. People don't understand all the crap businesses have to go through with the government regarding taxes and regulations. This costs jobs also. My parents own a business and there is a lot of stupid government regulations to deal with.
@AJstar9 Didn't the auto industry have difficulty competing with Japan, because Japan did not need to hire union workers? They used lots of robotics, too. Given the disparity in cost and quality between an American made care and a Japanese care, people chose the better deal. If auto manufacturers were NOT forced by unions to hire people for high wages and benefits, they could have competed more easily. The government slapped taxes on Japanese cars making them raise their prices.
@AJstar9 This put American and Japanese auto makers on a similar financial footing, however, it did nothing to help with quality differrences. People continued to buy Japanese. Their manufacturing costs stayed the same. They took the extra money they made from raising their prices (they took in more than enough to pay for taxes and raise revenues), and re-tooled their factories. Their quality and efficiency became even better. We screwed ourselves, and continue to do so.
@rgeorge9260 Japan artificially deflates their yen to essentially adding $6+K to their cars in profit. That does not seem a similar finacial footing to me. Now that the yen is raisng they are concerned about their profits. Did you know in Japan their factories are union? Their quality and productivity is actually going down. The myth that foreign quality is far superior is a hurdle that we need to battle. In actuallity many US cars exceed the competition. Its a new day check us out again.
@597914 China is deflating its money, not Japan. Japan's government was subsidizing companies in the 1990s. This is what Obama is doing now. Japan's economy was artificially made better by government spending. This does not work. Look at Greece and other European counties that are in financial trouble. They have a lot of union workers and they have low number of hours they can work dictated by their government. Socialism fails every time it is tried. Quit whining about Japan.
@AJstar9 Japan was eventually forced to open factories here, and hire Americans. That was a positive for America. However, they are still able to do the work better, faster and cheaper than their American counterparts, and they do not have to pay for expensive overseas shipping! As for me, I still by Toyotas and Hondas. If I truly felt I was getting a comparable product of quality in an American car that got good gas mileage, and a comparable price, I would buy American. I've yet to see it.
@rgeorge9260 Honda, Toyota, etc. create American jobs and help the US economy. There are 5 Honda plants and two Honda warehouses near where I live. There are also many Honda suppliers in the area that help the economy. Foreign investment in America is a good thing.
@AJstar9 I'm not talking about trucks and such. I'm talking about everyday cars used to get back and forth to work. Toyota was maligned recently for an issue that actually never existed. However, they suffered from bad publicity. Couldn't be the governement, now having a majority ownership in the company, would have had anything to do with dragging Toyota through the mud unnecessarily? I have never had a single issue with ANY of the Toyotas or Hondas I've owned.
@rgeorge9260 I find it ironic that so many people rush to defend toyota, yet want to crush their neighbor. Where is the proof that this was a hoax? they are still reporting it on the news as of today in fact 08112010. They didn't say it was a fake? Am I listening to the wrong guy?
@rgeorge9260 This is true about Toyota. The federal government investigated Toyota cars that had sticking gas pedals. The government reviewed the black boxes in the Toyotas and found that the throttle was being pressed and the brakes were not applied. I told 597914 this already. He just called me names. It seems people did this to get money from Toyota or to help Obama sell more GMs and Chryslers since the government owns them.
@AJstar9 Wrong. It was a shakedown by Obama just like he did to BP. You should be familiar with this tactic. Unions and the mafia shakedown people. Toyota sticking gas pedals was a hoax. The government proved it by reviewing the black boxes in Toyotas. Gas pedals were pushed and the brakes were not applied.
@43m1garand More lies from you! Toyota said it was the peddal sticking NOT the government!! Their cars did speed out of control. They claimed it was the pedal because they couldn't figure it out. They still don't know what it was. Only one car was proven to be a hoax by a liar seeking attention who pressed his gas peddle on purpose. If Toyo is so concerned about safety answer me why every other car manufacturer puts an overide on their systems and they don't? All you do is lie!
@597914 If you and other people knew how to drive, you would know all you have to do to stop a car with a sticking gas pedal is put it in neutral. Every other manufacturer does not have an override. I have a Honda and a Mitsubishi that do not have it. My sister has a Ford. It does not have it. My parents have GMs and a Honda. It 's not on them. My brother has Chryslers and a Ford. It's not on them.
@597914 Wrong. All GMs do not have override in them. You said other manufacturers. Honda, Ford, Chrysler, and Mitsubishi don't have them. You're an idiot. If a throttle was sticking, all anyone has to do is put the car in neutral. For being a car person, you don't know shit about cars. But you think US News is a car expert. Not Motor Trend, Road & Track, Automobile, Car & Driver.
@43m1garand Toyota Motor Corp. officials bragged in late 2007 that they saved more than $100 million by deterring U.S. safety officials from ordering costly repairs to prevent runaway vehicles, e-mails obtained by The Detroit News show. The communications suggest some executives knew of the situation nearly two years earlier than was acknowledged in a July 2009 internal company document that surfaced this year. Hoax huh? You are so full of crap!
@597914 I told you several times. Obviously your slow in the head and can't follow along. The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT investigated Toyota's black boxes. They found that the throttles were pushed and not the brakes. Ford, GM, and Chrysler had recalls for the exact same thing. The same supplier in Indiana that supplied Toyota also supplied GM, Ford, and Chrysler.
@43m1garand Slow mind? Toyo's own executives admitted there was a problem. All the gov't investigation found was that the black boxes didn't record any problem that doen't measn it didn't happen Tell the 93 dead toyo drivers that it didn't happen fool!
@43m1garand NHTSA also stated tha that investigation into sticking Toyo pedals is INCOMPLETE at that NO EVALUATION will be final until NEXT year! Just Like Rush and only telling HALF of the FACTS! Shut up fool! Its not the supplier's fault follower, its in Toyo's electronic design. I'm sure Toyo isn't hiding anything RIGHT? They have about $100 million reasons! LOL!
@597914 You keep changing the subject like you did before. This is about unions not Toyota and Honda. I think that not only are you a socialist, you're a racist who hates orientals. You constantly bash them and have such a hatred for them that every time you comment you cut down orientals.
@AJstar9 IT WAS A SHAKEDOWN!!!!!!!!!!! You have a mental disorder. The government fined Toyota. The government OWNS GM and Chrysler. That is a conflict of interest. The government wants to hurt Toyota because it is a competitor to Obama Motors. Toyota is successful. Unlike GM, Ford, and Chrysler.
@43m1garand your hate union workers so much what happen your wife left you for a uaw worker lol what ever you cant stop us from getting paid.and last month ford sold more cars and made more proft then toyota so how cant you say they are not doing go.O I KNOW YOU DONT GO BY FACTS ONLY WHAT GLEN BECK SAYS
@AJstar9 You have a crush on Glenn Beck and Toyota. Just like your dad 597914. All you do is talk about Glenn Beck and Toyota. I wouldn't be surprised you dream about them. Unskilled labor union worker hates America and anyone not unionized. What a shock. Gee. Who would have guessed? I'm still waiting on the answer to what Louisville Assembly is going to make. I guess it's a secret. Just like UAW pay.
@AJstar9 I've owned 3 since I was 16. My whole family, except for my Dad, have drive Toyotas and Hondas. My Dad drove Fords and Lincoln Mercury products. I should let him tell you how many times HIS cars were in the shop! The quality sucked! I remember once jumpstarting my Dad's Lincoln Town Car with my $4200 Toyota in -5 degree weather. Turned out his alternator was dead (his car was less than 1 year old). Anyway, I know you can't hear what I'm saying, so I'll stop...
@rgeorge9260 Your view of unions and the UAW is totally distorted. UAW labor can compete, build for less and better quality. I hope you check out what is being build today. Your belief that large companies would be glad to hire several workers at 1/2 price to replace one UAW is absurd.They are constantly looking to eliminate jobs. Higher wages benefit the economy not reduced wages. Your thinking will create the haves and have nots. Which are you?
@rgeorge9260 I've argued with AJstar9 and 597914 for several months on this same topic. It was on UAW Rejects Same Pay as Toyota video by lulunarf. These two don't get it. 597914 calls me names and changes the subject every time I've proved him wrong. He has absolutely no facts to back up what he says yet he thinks he knows it all. I bought Hondas for the same reason you did. I got tired of the constant repairs of GMs and Fords. A car is meant to drove, not to sit in a shop.
@AJstar9 Ford has a lot more debt than Toyota so it is not as financially secure as Toyota . Toyota owns 51% of Daihatsu and 16.5% of Fuji Heavy Industries which is the parent company of Subaru. Toyota makes more than automobiles. It makes forklifts and robots. Also, Toyota makes medium and heavy duty trucks and buses sold under the name Hino.
@43m1garand but its harder to make what i do.thats why you sit around crying i make to much.you so dumb you try to say honda out sells ford.i will no longer debate this.you nutts.plus i just got a $40,000 boat and so im going to enjoy my life and money
Most of you posters are ingnorant to the facts of FREE trade and want to blame the bullet for pulling the trigger. This contry isn't in bad economic shape because of unions. It this way because of our government and Wall street. Unions are about CIVIL RIGHTS. MLK Jr. was one of the biggest supporters of the UAW and Walter Reuther. SOLIDARITY!
@597914 You're lying about MLK jr. He was about civil rights not socialism. Dr. Alevda King, MLK jr's niece, said that he was NOT for socialism. This is a lie spread by leftists trying to call people racist who do not support their agenda. You can see the video interview at glennbeck(dot)com/content/articles/article/198/39442/
@43m1garand I never said MLKJr was for socialism. He was for workers rights and a personal friend of Walter Ruether. UAW paid his bail to get him out of jail every time. MLKJr was for civil and human rights. The same thing the UAW is for. We know what we are worth and negotiated reduced benefits and gave up r 3% wage in 2003 just to compete but some of our neighbors still damn us. We want to be the employee of choice. It's not your daddy's UAW anymore. Its a new game and we are competeing
@597914 MLK jr. was for civil rights not UAW rights. Stop rewriting history. Everything you stand for is socialist. I can list the 10 points of the Communist Manifesto and the 25 points of the Nazi platform of 1920 and we'll see how many match what you stand for. And none of what you stand for is in the US Constitution, you know, that document that is the law of the land that you hate.
@43m1garand again you call me a socialist, communist and a nazi! and say I hate my country wich is a complete lie! all you can do is call names and repeat what your idols spout.you act like a paranoid militia follower. FYI civil rights includes the right to fair pay for fair days work THATS also what MLK stood for. Terrible working conditions, combined with unfair and devious payroll practices, lead to the labor movement in '37 and continues today. Need proof? Ask WV miners.
@597914 You keep making fun of me because I have videos of Rush and Beck on my profile. Yet you don't say one word about the quotes I have on there by Washington and Jefferson. That's because you don't want people to know who you really are. You think Washington and Jefferson are dead white guys who are racists bigots and the US constitution is a road block to you spreading socialism.
@43m1garand I don't have anyone on my profile because I am not a follower or a paranoid freak that believes what some whack job on TV or radio tells me is so. I can make up my own mind all by myself thank you. You hate unions yet you've never been in one or owned a company that employed one. You've never dealt with one and know knothing about one.Look up Toledo Accord before you rip on something you know knothing about.You are the onesided bigot that can't hold a job and blames unions.
@597914 Keith Olbermann is who you watch. You said it yourself. You like loony liberal like yourself. No one tells me what to think. Unlike your stupid show, people call in to radio shows. Liberals listen too. Rush as an audience of over 20 million a week. Olbermann has 10. Rush has a company that verifies his facts. His accuracy is 99.6%. He has to be right a long time to go up one point. He has been right through the presidential elections of 2004 and 2008.
@43m1garand BECK AND RUSH TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK! LOL! SURE RUSH IS 99% TRUTHFUL ON HALF THE FACTS...HE LEAVES OUT 100% OF THE OTHER FACTS THAT TELLS THE REAL STORY FOOL!
@597914 Nobody tells me what to think. I have Rush and Beck on my profile because I know how much it irritates you leftists. The George Soros funded liberal organization Media Matters has a direct line to Kieth Olbermann's teleprompter. Olbermann is another loony liberal like you. Media Matters reports lies to the main stream media who run it as true. I've seen how they lie.
@597914 So you are saying George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are paranoid freaks. All you talk about is Rush and Beck yet completely ignore my quotes by Washington and Jefferson. I never once cited anything from Rush or Beck. I did cite what the UAW was doing at GM in Indianapolis which came from the Socialist World Website. You can't handle the truth.
@43m1garand I have a BA from Eastern Michigan and have held the same UAW job for 26 years. Put 2 kids through college and put more money back into the economy than you'll ever make in your lifetime. That's what makes a good economy and country not working for a slave owner like WalMart! The UAW doesn't extort anything. They fight for the American Dream! What are YOU fighting for? A race to the bottom? Wake UP!
@597914 You went to college. Who cares. You are still ignorant. You act like such an expert on everything yet you are a factory worker. What unions do is not a national secret. Anybody can find out what unions do and what you get paid. How do you know if I've been in a union or not? Are you a mind reader? You don't know where I've worked.
@597914 You have a college degree yet you can not tell me where in the US Constitution is any of this stuff you support. Looks like you got ripped off.
@43m1garand No YOU TELL ME WHERE IT ISN'T in the constitution. The constitution is about democracy "for the people" not DICTATORSHIP and CAST SOCIETY like YOU are for! You think you are so patriotic when in reality you are nothing but a fool being controled by your brainwashers they have you thinking the way they want a.. RACE TO THE BOTTOM!
@597914 Once again you are a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance. If the government has the power to do something it will be in the constitution. You didn't even know what the first amendment was about. What you support is not in the constitution. That is why you won't tell me where it is in there. You just keep saying "tell me where it is not". You're another socialist trying to change the constitution.
@597914 You keep talking about a race to the bottom yet the POOR in America have more than the middle class did in the 1960's. America's poor have more than Europe's middle class. During the summer, many French die because they don't have a/c in their homes when there is a heat wave. America's poor have a/c, TVs, phones, washer and dryers, cars, microwaves, stoves, and refrigerators. And anybody who goes to an emergency room MUST be treated, even if they don't have insurance. It is the law.
@43m1garand you said."During the summer, many French die because they don't have a/c in their homes when there is a heat wave" this has got to be the most moronic statement I've ever seen! And you complain when other people change the subject. Now you are an expert on french living conditions. Did beck tell you that? LMAO!
@597914 I think I must say things too fast for your slow mind. This is an example of what socialism does. Why don't you quote all of what I said? For someone who claims to have gone to college, you sure are slow in the head. Like I said before, any time you want to take an intelligence test, bring it on.
@597914 Where in the US constitution does it say a certain amount of pay is a right? You keep ranting and raving but you will not tell me where anything you support is in the US constitution. All you do is smear me and the US military and will not prove me wrong. Stop whining and prove it.
@43m1garand Now you say I smear the military! Where did that come from? My son is a corpsman in the NAVY and freedom to LL&PH is in the 1st amendment! LOL! I've never had a problem with Wash or Jefferson! Only you! And Rush and Beck who are your brainwashers. Union dues are OPTIONAL you fool! You know KNOTHING about any union!!
@597914 You do smear the military. You tried to make it sound like I am crazy because of my user name and because I like guns. You said that Imust be ex-military and was bashing me for owning Japanese cars. I was in the military and so were some of my relatives and we have foreign cars. Union dues and membership are not optional unless you are in a right to work state. 22 states have this law. You are telling a half truth on that.
@43m1garand HEY Fool I was smearing YOU! Not the military...I don't think you could really you get into the military! And if you would have read that post I was actually PRAISING YOU, IDIOT! YOU said I was bashing you cause you are a paranoid FREAK that watches Rush and Beck and puts them on your profile!
@597914 No. You were smearing me, the military, and gun owners. You said to Ajstar9 in the UAW Rejects Same Pay as Toyota Workers, Kills Bailout Bill video that I must be ex-military or a gun lover because of my user name. You were trying to make it seem like military and gun owners are crazy. I told you I was in the military, pay attention. Any day you want to take an intelligence test, bring it on. We'll take the one I took in the military, not a test messed with by leftists.
@597914 My job in the military that you hate. U.S. Air Force. Signal Intelligence Analyst Specialist. So you don't have to look it up since I know you can't do research and only go by what Kieth Olbermann tells you, it is a cryptographer. Codebreaker. Clearance is higher than Top Secret. I suppose you will call me a liar about that too. And you thought that I was just a stupid truck driver.
@43m1garand You ARE a liar. And a stupid unskilled truck driver. You have never been in the military and are nothing but a pretender wanna be living in a fanatasy land! You know nothing about sticking gas pedals, Harbour Report, unions, trade laws, labor laws, economy or free trade. All you can rectite is what your idols Rush and Beck tell you. You look so much better online....
@597914 You're the one who can't think. All you do is repeat what the unions, Olbermann, and other socialist say. You hate America so much which is pretty sad since it is the best, most free country in the world. There is more opportunity here than any where else. All of you leftists are control freaks. You want everyone else to be miserable like you. You people are not happy unless your miserable. Everything you have ever done is a failure.
@43m1garand leftests are control freaks you say? let me see... you conservatives are against the Mexicans in Arizona, gays, gay marriage, unions, black presidents, YOU arent happy unles you are making everyone act like you! No youre jealous I have a college degree, great job in uaw appointment and a secure job and am happy n proud to be a real Amereican not like you! Loser!
@597914 Mexicans who are ILLEGAL. Actually I hope the illegals take your job and the other union jobs. Then we can be rid of unions and have people who will work.
@43m1garand Liar! again Union dues ARE OPTIONAL where ever you work. You do not do all the research. I do orientation at my plant and pass out union application cards to every employee GM hires and they can check the box to decline any dues being taken out. The UAW does not hire or fire people.
@597914 NO, dues are not optional and joining a union is not optional UNLESS you work in a right to work state. You vehemently defend the unions and pretend they are perfect. I think it's because you're a bad worker. Good workers don't need unions. In a union shop you can't get a raise based on merit. You only get a raise when it's negotiated.
@597914 You are a union rep. What a shock. I thought you might be. I suppose you support card check too. Of course you do, so people can be pressured into voting the way the union wants. You don't care about republics.
@43m1garand I never said I was a union rep, or a communisit or a nazi or a socialist. That is YOUR twisted sick mind that has to paint everyone negatively to feel like you are right. But I wouldn't mind being a union rep...that is something to be proud of! You wish I were those things to make your argument, but I'M NOT. I'm a UAW member fighting for EVERYONE'S RIGHTS...UNLIKE YOU!
@597914 You won't say you're a socialist because you're a spineless coward. Like the saying goes,if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it is a duck. UAW doesn't fight for everyone's right. It doesn't fight for owners of companies rights. Unions represent 7% of American workers. Why do you hate 93% of America? Because they are not in a union, that's why.
@43m1garand hey m1moron you keep saying I hate this, I hate that. You are the one who HATES. I've never hated anything except narrow mindedness and bigotry. Everything your heros Rush and Beck stand for. You like to talk for everyone but you can't even grasp the most simple concepts and know nothing about unions, UAW, contracts or the economy. it all comes down to your hate toward your black president and has nothing to do with his policies.
@597914 You hate rich people. You hate CEOs, You hate corporations. You hate guns. You hate the US military. You hate orientals. You hate Wall Street. You love unions. You love socialism. And you LOVE Beck and Rush. You can't go one day without talking about them. Something Rush says that's right on: he lives rent free in your head. You constantly talk about him. Are you stalking Rush and Beck?
@597914 Another leftist calling people racist. Even though you said you marched with Jesse Jackson who is an anti-Semite. All Republicans are racist yet Republicans freed the slaves. You're still doing Saul Alinsky tactics. I don't like communism like you do. You hate things. I never once said I hate anything.
@597914 Talk about someone who's greedy is you. All you care about is your pay check. You don't care about what happens to your employer or your country so long as you get your check. You don't care if both of them are ruined. Like you said " stick it to the man". You love unions so much you bend over and grab your ankles for them. And you love every minute of it.
@597914 You have not proved one thing I said wrong and have not presented a single fact. All you do is call me names and bash gun owners, the US military, and the rich. You are like a kid. All you do is call names and think you won the argument. You keep saying I don't know what the unions do yet you do not present facts to prove me wrong. Why don't you tell me what unions do?
@43m1garand Ther is another saying...if it acts like a bigot, sounds like a bigot, rants like a bigot..its a BIGOT..you ever hear the definition of a conservative? They usually wear white sheets and act like Scrooge.
@597914 Democrats are the racists and bigots. Jesse Jackson smeared Jews. Sen. Robert Byrd of WV. was in the KKK and was a recruiter for them. Woodrow Wilson segregated the military and fed. gov. Bill Clinton said his mentor is William Fulbright - a segregationist. Fulbright was 1 of 99 Dems who signed the Southern Manifesto which opposes racial integration. Civil Rights Act of 1964 - 112 dems voted against. This is a few of the many examples of racists in the Democrat party.
oo i forgot he said im not allowed to work that many hours.what.q.nutjob
AJstar9 1 year ago
hey is the. loser truckdriver still lieing...sorry i been busy working 70plus hrs.on the new suv at the chicago plant.O thats rigth the truck drive said we wasnt getting it.lol
AJstar9 1 year ago
National Institute for Labor Relations Research documented 2,193 incidents of union violence between 1991 and 2001, including numerous acts of attempted murder. These figures include only violent acts reported in the media; many acts of violence are not reported out of fear of reprisal. From an interview with Cathy Jones, July 22, 2003.
43m1garand 1 year ago
This video convieniently leaves out the facts like gov't regulations, foreign subsidies, and labor laws that give the advantage to China and Japan, etc. and tries to lay the blame entirely on Labor. And tries to imply the UAW thinks it is better than the average worker. All lies! The UAW doesn't fight for only the UAW's wage but all worker's wages. Keep buying foreign and turn your back on your neighbor and watch the rich get richer and the rest of us work at WalMart.
597914 1 year ago
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10 points of the Communist Manifesto by socialist Karl Marx, the father of communism:
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly
43m1garand 1 year ago
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6.Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7.Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8.Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
43m1garand 1 year ago
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9.Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
10.Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production
43m1garand 1 year ago
Americans against Americans who fight for higher pay for ALL working Americans. I just don't get it. Are you telling me you don't want to earn more for your days work and have some representation? Its a proven fact that when workers earn more they buy more. Your logic to drag everyone to a lower standard is mind boggling...please explain how that betters your country?
597914 1 year ago
@597914 How is socialism that you want better than capitalism? Socialism fails every time it's tried. If people want more money, they earn it. Not extort it like unions do. People can work harder, get a better paying job, work more than one job, work more hours, or start a business. All you want to do is punch a time clock, do as little work as possible and whine about pay. If you care about people having more money, you wouldn't support people who want higher taxes and more gov. regulations.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand Everything you claim is possible by working hard was won by the unions. You know nothing about the struggle that workers al over the world have made to get to where we are now. You are a fool to think any Rich CEO gives a damn about you! and without the workers there would be no profits to count idiot!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 You are so stupid and blind. CEOs care about their workers. Workers are what help companies grow. Unions don't care about anyone except themselves. They are in bed with the Democrats to have the Dems to pass laws that they want passed.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand yeah really why would you want any laws passed that create more jobs for more americans? that would be terrible! i know lets make it easier to ship American jobs overseas! then big corporations can rake in even MORE profits at the expense of their country! You sir are a m1moron!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 Dems cause jobs to go to other countries. It's called taxes and regulations. But since you are a union hack that just puts your time in, you wouldn't know that. Only the private sector creates jobs, not the government. I know, you hate the rich because you're jealous. You'll never be anything more than a time clock puncher and a cry baby liar.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 Corporations no matter how big and people no matter how rich can raise taxes, take away freedoms, or start wars. they don't have the power. Only a government can do that. It has a monopoly on force. Government does not create jobs or wealth. Rich people create jobs. I never worked for a poor person. You hate the rich because you hate success and want them punished by wealth redistribution which is socialism and communism. It is not your money. They earned it. Not you. You are jealous.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand Rich CEOs earned their money off the blood and sweat of the workers. And don't give a damn about them. Bring on the next poor sucker to take advantage of. Ford, Jr. can't build 50 thousand trucks a month by himself! your logic is so stupid! You want to shit on labor AND YOU ARE LABOR...what a m1moron!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 People don't get rich magically, brilliant. They work hard for it and take huge risks. And you want to punish them for being successful. You want to take their money which is stealing. Taxes are legalized theft. If you had any ambition you could start a business too. But all you can do is cry and blame everyone else for your problems. You keep engaging in class warfare which is what socialism and Nazism is about. You hate the rich and are jealous of them.
43m1garand 1 year ago
m1moron...your beloved Toyo, Hondo, Hyndo and VW took 3 BILLION from the tax payers in three southern states and NEVER have to pay it back. I thought you didn't like the gov't giving away your money? That IS A FACT...NOW call me a liar! Did Rush or Beck tell you that? NO! They tell 100% of HALF of the truth 99% of the time! LOL!!! YOu know NOTHING about Labor, labor laws, the economy or the UAW...READ the Toledo Accord! ..oh wait YOU CAN'T READ! You have to have Beck tell you!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 They didn't take money, loony. GM and Chrysler did because they suck and people don't want their crap cars. They also can't run a business. Chrysler is so bad that not only can't they sell cars, no one wants to own the company. Mitsubishi wouldn't buy it in the 1990's, Daimler Benz then Cerberus sold Chrysler after a short ownership. Chrysler had a previous bailout in 1979. GM changed GMAC to a bank to get even more bailout money from bank bailouts. GM didn't pay back it's bailout either
43m1garand 1 year ago
This video convieniently leaves out the facts like gov't regulations, foreign subsidies, and labor laws that give the advantage to China and Japan, etc. and tries to lay the blame entirely on Labor. And tries to imply the UAW thinks it is better than the average worker. All lies! The UAW doesn't fight for only the UAW's wage but all worker's wages. Keep buying foreign and turn your back on your neighbor and watch the rich get richer and the rest of us work at WalMart.
597914 1 year ago
The REAL refusal to face reality is that the same public that opposes any bailout fof the US auto companies ignores the FACT that the US subsidizes the foreign auto companies at the tune of over 3 billion in 3 of our southern states that they were never asked to pay back. Thats your tax dollars to Toyo, Hondo, Hundo and VW. Where is the outrage toward that? Your agenda is clear when all the facts are on the table.
597914 1 year ago
The people who hate the unions so much are the ones who could never stand having themselves for a boss! GM is constantly setting the rules and are the first to break them. without my UAW representation we would still be working in dangerous unsafe factories in a horrible environment. Your mind is made up. I'm not here to change it, but I won't lies be spead about what we really are for and about. We don't force anything from anyone.we negotiate for the better.
597914 1 year ago
@597914 You are such a liar. Unions represent about 7% of US workers. That would mean most work places are dangerous. OSHA makes sure work places are safe. Department of Labor makes sure workers get paid. You never one said one word about all the illegal activities unions are involved in and have done in the past. You think unions are perfect and never do anything wrong. Just like you think the Messiah Barry Obama is perfect. Wall Street had nothing to do with GM building junk cars.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@dancefan2007 give m1garad facts and discussion and all he does is call people liars and names there is no reasoning there. He will take what you say twist it and call you a racist, socialist or nazi. Its like he has a script from Beck in front of him. He gives mostly paranoid rants. And knows knothing about the UAW like that UAW pensions are run through VEBA thus relieving the companies from carrying the liability for their health plans on their accounting books. All he knows is what Beck says
597914 1 year ago
@597914 I give you proof but you ignore it. Let's see what you say about this. UAW was trying to negotiate a contract Sunday at GM in Indianapolis, IN to cut STARTING wages in half to sell the plant. The UAW was ran out of the room by Obama Motors workers. It is report on World Socialist Web Site
wsws(dot)org/articles/2010/aug2010/inds-a17.shtml
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 Tax payers are responsible for UAW pensions because TAX PAYER MONEY bailed out GM an Chrysler. Bailout was not paid back by GM either. You kept going on and on about Rush earlier now you blab about Beck. I think you are infatuated with them. You just regurgitate union talking points and get your news from Keith Olbermann - Count Down To No Ratings.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 O he thinks he knows every thing because he drives a parts truck to a plant. like i been to the airport so i should know how to fly a plane.lol i hope ford stops useing non union drivers.then this loser can cry some more
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 You can't figure out how to do a little manual labor, Mister Unskilled Labor Union Worker. You sure couldn't fly a plane. But you do have the sitting on your butt for long hours part down though. A druggie like you flying a plane. That's scary.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand CALL ME WHAT YOU WANT IF YOU GOT THE BALLS TO Call me a druggie to my face you cock sucking crybaby i will be at f 32 all fucking week see all you can do is call people name when your wrong
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 You keep being hostile and threatening. You keep getting your panties in a wad and having a conniption fit like a snot nosed kid. Typical white trash wanting to fight. Grow up.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@AJstar9 He rips on "unskilled labor" yet knows nothing about the hours of training it takes to run a modern factory. Spreads lies about line workers on their phones. Hey m1garand (M1moron, as I call him) Team Leaders are assigned phones for plant communication purposes and are required to talk on them. personal phones are banned for safety reasons except in break areas. m1moron knows nothing about today's factories or unions.
597914 1 year ago
@dancefan2007 I'm sick and tired of morons who say CEOs are overpaid. I want to see your ass run a company and deal with the unions, government regulations, taxes along with doing the other things required to run a company. People who bitch about CEOs are jealous because they don't make that much and use class warfare. These are idiots who want success punished. CEOs work for their money and are paid what they are worth. They are paid a lot to stay with a company and run it and not go elsewhere.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand i wish you stop crying because i make to much.its funny because you cant stop it lol
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Ford originally wanted a bailout. So you can yap all you want. Ford is not doing so great. Ford did some "accounting management" that made it look like it made a huge profit. I'll compare Honda any day to Ford. Honda's sales increased 1% while everyone else's dropped by double digits. Ford closed several plants, laid off 1000's, canceled Mercury, and is selling Volvo. Previously Ford sold Jaguar, Land Rover, and Aston Martin.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand ford out sells honda every year you tool
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Not true. Ford, GM, and Chrysler only sell what they do because they are cheap crap. The manufactures and dealers ALWAYS have sales and incentives to get rid of their crap even when the economy was good. It's funny. Every commercial they say it is the biggest sale ever. Buy now. What a joke. Everyone knows Toyota and Honda are the best. That is why they keep comparing the Detroit 3 junk to Toyota and Honda. So when is Ford going to make a jet? Honda does.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand WHEN IS HONDA GOING TO OUT SELL FORD.NEVER WHRN IS HONDA GOING TO BUILD A TRUCK THAT JUST SELLS HALF AS GOOD AS FORDS F-150 LOL
AJstar9 1 year ago
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43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand ford didnt get a bailout FORD OUT SELLS HONDA EVERY YEAR AND ALWAYS WILL DEAL WITH IT.
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 All you do is bring up Toyota to try to distract from the fact Ford makes cars that catch on fire. Pinto, Crown Vic, Escort, etc.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand FORD DONT EVEN BUILD THE CARS ARE TAALKING ABOUT ANYMORE.THE FACT IS FORD BUILDS BETTER CARS THAN TOYOTA RIGTH NOW.SELL ALOT MORE THAN HONDA
AJstar9 1 year ago
@43m1garand AND IM PAYED VERY WELL AND YOU CANT STOP IT YOU LOSER
AJstar9 1 year ago
It will be interesting to watch the UAW negotiate union contracts with itself since the UAW is part owner of GM and Chrysler along with the federal government.
43m1garand 1 year ago
uaw isnt giving anything back!jobs gone overseas because cheap china people make 5 dollars a day.the uaw dont make 3 time more then toyota workers.uaw dont make 70 dollar a hour.your a nut job trying to sell a lame book
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 There are two reasons the UAW is still here: sheer numbers, and the threat they pose a company when contract negotiations come around. Answer me this: if you owned a business, and could hire either a union worker (at a higher wage) or a non-union worker to do the same job, and the skill set was the same, what would you do? If you were honest, you would go non-union, as there is no advantage. In this case, the expertise is the same, and labor cheaper. However, the union would picket!
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@AJstar9 By picketing a business, union try to extort work and artificially higher wages. It's cra*. In the real world there is competition. Businesses are in business to turn a profit. You maximize profit by lowering cost of production, and selling at a reasonable price. In my example of carpenters: a local business chose to hire non-union carpenters. They got good quality work at a better price. The business saved money. The union has picketed for months. The business has not buckled.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@AJstar9 In such a case, the business wins. This is the way it should be. Auto manufacturers should be able to hire whomever they please. If it were not for the unions being able to shut them down (and in some cases, threaten violence), the auto manufacturers would hire cheaper labor, and get the same quality. It's not rocket science. Unions rape the free market system. Honestly, a lot of Americans would and could do auto manufacturing jobs for 1/2 the wage of a union worker.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@AJstar9 The worker would still earn a good wage (1/2 a union wage is still a good wage, and is way better than minimum wage!), and the business would be able to make the product cheaper, and sell it at a better price. This would make them more competetive, and possibly allow them to undercut and REALLY outsell Toyota by even more. This is simple logic, and a fact. Honestly, you can not argue in favor of a labor union and make sense. It's self protection and selfishness.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 Your logic is a race to the bottom. Wages are not the reason GM, etc are not competitive it is MUCH more than that! It is unfair trade laws, high tariffs, and devalued currency by foreign countries. That's a known FACT. Labor to produce steel is about $50/hr to make here yet it cost 2Xs that to buy it from foreign and ship it here. US labor cost is NOT the reason we can't compete. Its why we can! Know the REAL facts.
597914 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Of course you don't want your wage cut. Who would? But the reality is that your wage is not real. It's artificially high due to legal extortion. Yeah, you can gripe about the millions CEO's make and the bonuses paid, but that's a smokescreen and a deflection away from the fact that your wage is not real. It's a justification of your wage, and it's not based in logic. I'm not a 'hater'; I'm honest. Union power has been on the decline for years, and will eventually disappear.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 uaw is for working middle class your for the company.
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Unions are not for the middle class. They are for socialism. You need to listen to what former president of SEIU said. rgeorge9260 and I are for companies because they create jobs and help the economy. This is opposite of what unions do. Unions only represent about 7% of American workers because people don't want to belong. They see what unions do.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 my wage is very real.and unions isnt going any where.maybe you should move to china there you can pay what you want
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Flat Rock is a joint Ford/Mazda plant. Ford owns Mazda. 900 people are laid off from Flat Rock. 700 from Chicago Assembly, Louisville Assembly and St. Thomas Assembly Canada are closing. My company hauls your stuff. Ford is not hiring. People at your plant in Chicago said workers from Louisville and those laid off from Chicago Assembly are being recalled to work in Chicago. Some will come from other plants. I still doubt you work at Ford. Everything you say is a lie.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand i dont care what you a fucking dumb ass truck driver thinks.louisville isnt closeing but i guess ford dont tell your dumb ass every plan they do.and guess glen beck didnt tell you.your a fucking crybaby loser thats mad because autoworkers make more money than you.
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 What are going to make in Louisville then? Why don't you answer a simple question? All you are doing is ranting and raving worse than a kid. What is Ford going to make in St. Thomas?
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand THE NEW ESCAPE AND A NEW LITTLE CAR CANT YOU FUCKING READ
AJstar9 1 year ago
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@AJstar9 Gee. Took long enough. You must have checked Wikipedia or Googled it. If you worked at Ford you would have known right away. Seems like you got your panties in a wad. Your just mad because I know what is going on with the UAW and I'm not letting you get away with lying.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand you are wrong on every thing.and i can see your to much of a dumb ass to know anything ,i guess thats why your boss dont tell you anything
AJstar9 1 year ago
@43m1garand your the one mad and wrong.i also think its funny you think being a truck part drive takes more skill than a folk truck driver
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Don't talk to me anymore. You want to threaten me and act like an asshole then don't say anything. You need to grow up.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Congress and the President only put up with unions for political gain. They know that losing the union vote would hose them. However, companies are pretty powerful too. They have lots of money, and now laws have changed again to allow companies to make unlimited contributions. They will try to hose unions, and they will win. You know why? Congress will see reason. Comapnies will say they can higher more workers, creating higher employment, if they can pay non-unio wages.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Union will be hosed when both parties in power turn on them, and it will happen eventually. Obama's in a reach lurch right now. Unemployment is at an all time high, and he's getting hammered about it. There is going to be a real attraction to finding a way to get more people back to work. And if you want to keep your job, you'll need to accept a pay cut to stay competetive. I agree: the UAW has been hearing their power is diminishing for 20 years. The problem is that it's true!
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Dude, say what you want, but I'm right. I'm highly educated, and work in an industry where I have been forced to keep competetive, or face being out of work. There have been cuts in labor and wages. I compete with Indians everyday, who make a pittance of what I do, yet they have the same (or better) skill set. My company has no union. The are doing very well. Do I like it? No! Do I gripe? I have, but for the most part, I accept the reality. You will too, eventually, like it or not.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@AJstar9 If I were an union worker, and nowhere near retirement, I would be trying to get an education outside the industry. Only those who are thinking ahead and PLAN for what is surely coming will be employed. Times are tough, and will get tougher. Unions have been on the decline for sometime, and will die out like the dinosaurs they are. They serve no purpose other than to artifically inflate wages, and that's wrong. Companies should be free to hire who they want, and at a competetive wage,
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@AJstar9 My logic is inescapable and irrefutable. You vote Dem, don't you? And why? Is it because you believe in their ideology in it's entirety, or because they protect the union people who vote for them? Thus, they "buy" your vote, indirectly. "Vote for me, and keep your job". What happens when THEIR job becomes more important to them than yours? They are getting hammered about unemployment. It's tempting to support companies who promise to hire more people if wages are lowered.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Who will you vote for when neither party offers you an advantage? You will be just like the rest of us. The government has allowed offshoring for years, in the name of competition. Your industry is not immune, my friend. These politicians will eventually turn on you too, and allow the free market to work. They will be heros, putting millions to work, and at a good wage. Think about it. It's coming... I can read the writing on the wall, what about you?
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Dude, you have a Union mentality, and can't see the forest for the trees! You argue a side whose only logic is protecting the dollar amount they make on the job. The company IS what it's all about, really. Without the company, there would be no job. And a company should have the right to hire whoever they want, for whatever wage they want, providing there are people who will fill the job for said wage, and can do the work. What part of this do you have an issue with?
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 But george without the workers there would be no company. Ford builds 50k trucks a month...Bill Ford Jr couldn't do that by himself. UAW labor is $29.35 / hour at GM which is a little more than $60K a year for 40 hrs. and is comparible to most labor jobs like construction, etc. That isn't too much for a job that breaks your body down. Installing door panels for 8, 10, 12 hrs. on a moving line is not for eveyone.
597914 1 year ago
@AJstar9 It's the American way. Why should a Union be able to FORCE someone to pay a certain amount of benefits and wages? It's legal robbery! Don't you hire non-union people to do some jobs, and pick between competetive bidders for such jobs? The company I work for hires the person with the best qualifications for the job at hand, and pays what the going market rate bears. In some cases, this is 6 figures. If the market is allowed to work like this, wages take care of themselves.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 george, the unions do not force anyone anything. Those wages are negotiated and in fact the UAW realizes the economic climate and have negotiated LOWER wages and benefits, yet the public still attacks us. The UAW is fighting for better living for everyone you included and we will continue that fight. When your employer says he's leaving to India you'll wish you had fair representation. You / me have no guarantee he will stay no matter how great of an employee you are.
597914 1 year ago
@AJstar9 I'll bet the auto manufacturer you work for could hire two workers for the price of one Union worker, and the two people hired would be more than happy with their salary and benefits! Wouldn't this benefit more workers, employees and our economy? I also maintain Union workers are NOT always the best candidates for a job, but the Unions protect these people, and keep them from getting let go. That's wrong. Unions survive for one reason: Dems kiss UAW's butt to get their votes.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 Those days where a lowlife is protected are gone. There is no room in the team concept used by virtually every auto company to allow someone to take atvantage of the system. The UAW has accepted and ENCOURAGED changes in the contract to take away that protection to those who don't want to work. Your perception of the UAW is outdated. Those workers are gone, repalced by a younger more educated workforce willing to do what it takes. I hope you give us a chance. Thanks.
597914 1 year ago
@AJstar9 You better pray that Congress does not get together (Dems and Repubs) and turn on the Unions to help solve unemployment. If Congress busted the unions, with the promise that companies would use the money saved to hire several employees to replace each union worker, you'd be sunk. I know it's been floated. Who would you vote for then, when neither party protects the outdated ideas of the union? I would say the current workers do not lose their jobs, but accept the wage & benefit changes.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 Believe me NO company would ever vote for that promise! Not even the republicans. Don't be fooled GM loves the UAW. They want us just as much as we need them. I know you don't believe me but there is a unique skill level to assembling autos that not everyone can do. All new hires come in at $14 (limited benefits) and that is locked in with a max of $18 depending on shift premiums. NOBODY wants MOREworkers!
597914 1 year ago
@AJstar9 If I were a Union worker, I would be worried, and trying to plan for the future, NOT simply holding onto the belief that Unions will be able to protect your forever. The free market works. MOST companies are not union, and are living proof. Union had their place when laws were not there to protect the workers from company abuse. Now there are laws protecting workers: child labor laws, minimum wage laws, etc. Why do we need unions? To ARTIFICIALLY drive up wages and benfits?
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 Believe me I / we are worried that is why we have made consessions in wages and benefits and take our job seriously. We know what is at stake. But don't you find it interesting that GM has given themselves back the raise they took away during the bankpruptcy and are lobbying the gov't to allow higher wages for their top level jobs? The UAW would rather see that money spead a little more evenly to everyone - all jobs - for teachers, law enforcement, service jobs, etc.
597914 1 year ago
@AJstar9 If my local store hired a non-union carpenter, and the work was well-done, and they saved $2,5000 doing so, isn't that good for everyone? A carpenter made money and is happy, the store got work done, and saved money. Prices stay low for the consumer. I see no loser here but one: the idiot union guy who will now picket the store, because he did not get the job. He'll stand out there day after day, trying to punish the store for not hiring him, and extort work the next time.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@AJstar9 I say "good for the store", and hope they never buckle. The free market prevailed, and worked as it should. Unions have hurt the auto industry and manufacturing. Companies moved manufacturing overseas because they found people who could do the same jobs CHEAPER. If Americans wer willing to do the same, they would have stayed. These companies have no choice. They compete in a GLOBAL market. Other companies exist in Malaysia and other countries, and compete for business.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 unfortunately the global market is not fair. Did you know US built cars are limited in the percentage of the market they can occupy in Japan and Korea, etc. Not here. In china Buick is king. Japan's government protects their market and subsidizes their factories. Unions haven't hurt the industy. Unfair trade and labor agreements that encourage factories to relocate overseas does.
The struggle for civil and human rights never ends and the UAW fights for those rights.
597914 1 year ago
@597914 Unions hurt auto companies along with taxes and regulations. Unions don't care about civil and union rights. If they did they wouldn't beat up people who disagree with them like the black man who was beat up by SEIU members. Also unions wouldn't be extorting money from companies in the form of higher pay and benefits that companies can't afford. Union dues are used to pay Democrats campaign money to push socialists agendas. Democrats are ran by Big Labor.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 Labor cost is the highest cost for companies but taxes and government regulations hurt too. The auto industry was already in trouble and Bush got the CAFE standards raised which didn't help with already struggling auto companies. People don't understand all the crap businesses have to go through with the government regarding taxes and regulations. This costs jobs also. My parents own a business and there is a lot of stupid government regulations to deal with.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Didn't the auto industry have difficulty competing with Japan, because Japan did not need to hire union workers? They used lots of robotics, too. Given the disparity in cost and quality between an American made care and a Japanese care, people chose the better deal. If auto manufacturers were NOT forced by unions to hire people for high wages and benefits, they could have competed more easily. The government slapped taxes on Japanese cars making them raise their prices.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 JAPAN HAS UNION WORKERS IN JAPAN.AND FORD IS SELLING MORE THEN TOYOTA RIGTH NOW
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 This put American and Japanese auto makers on a similar financial footing, however, it did nothing to help with quality differrences. People continued to buy Japanese. Their manufacturing costs stayed the same. They took the extra money they made from raising their prices (they took in more than enough to pay for taxes and raise revenues), and re-tooled their factories. Their quality and efficiency became even better. We screwed ourselves, and continue to do so.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 Japan artificially deflates their yen to essentially adding $6+K to their cars in profit. That does not seem a similar finacial footing to me. Now that the yen is raisng they are concerned about their profits. Did you know in Japan their factories are union? Their quality and productivity is actually going down. The myth that foreign quality is far superior is a hurdle that we need to battle. In actuallity many US cars exceed the competition. Its a new day check us out again.
597914 1 year ago
@597914 China is deflating its money, not Japan. Japan's government was subsidizing companies in the 1990s. This is what Obama is doing now. Japan's economy was artificially made better by government spending. This does not work. Look at Greece and other European counties that are in financial trouble. They have a lot of union workers and they have low number of hours they can work dictated by their government. Socialism fails every time it is tried. Quit whining about Japan.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Japan was eventually forced to open factories here, and hire Americans. That was a positive for America. However, they are still able to do the work better, faster and cheaper than their American counterparts, and they do not have to pay for expensive overseas shipping! As for me, I still by Toyotas and Hondas. If I truly felt I was getting a comparable product of quality in an American car that got good gas mileage, and a comparable price, I would buy American. I've yet to see it.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 Honda, Toyota, etc. create American jobs and help the US economy. There are 5 Honda plants and two Honda warehouses near where I live. There are also many Honda suppliers in the area that help the economy. Foreign investment in America is a good thing.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 thats why they have so many recalls
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 I'm not talking about trucks and such. I'm talking about everyday cars used to get back and forth to work. Toyota was maligned recently for an issue that actually never existed. However, they suffered from bad publicity. Couldn't be the governement, now having a majority ownership in the company, would have had anything to do with dragging Toyota through the mud unnecessarily? I have never had a single issue with ANY of the Toyotas or Hondas I've owned.
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 I find it ironic that so many people rush to defend toyota, yet want to crush their neighbor. Where is the proof that this was a hoax? they are still reporting it on the news as of today in fact 08112010. They didn't say it was a fake? Am I listening to the wrong guy?
597914 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 This is true about Toyota. The federal government investigated Toyota cars that had sticking gas pedals. The government reviewed the black boxes in the Toyotas and found that the throttle was being pressed and the brakes were not applied. I told 597914 this already. He just called me names. It seems people did this to get money from Toyota or to help Obama sell more GMs and Chryslers since the government owns them.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand toyota was fine the biggest fine every for hiding the facts
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Wrong. It was a shakedown by Obama just like he did to BP. You should be familiar with this tactic. Unions and the mafia shakedown people. Toyota sticking gas pedals was a hoax. The government proved it by reviewing the black boxes in Toyotas. Gas pedals were pushed and the brakes were not applied.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand More lies from you! Toyota said it was the peddal sticking NOT the government!! Their cars did speed out of control. They claimed it was the pedal because they couldn't figure it out. They still don't know what it was. Only one car was proven to be a hoax by a liar seeking attention who pressed his gas peddle on purpose. If Toyo is so concerned about safety answer me why every other car manufacturer puts an overide on their systems and they don't? All you do is lie!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 If you and other people knew how to drive, you would know all you have to do to stop a car with a sticking gas pedal is put it in neutral. Every other manufacturer does not have an override. I have a Honda and a Mitsubishi that do not have it. My sister has a Ford. It does not have it. My parents have GMs and a Honda. It 's not on them. My brother has Chryslers and a Ford. It's not on them.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand LIAR! GMs all have an overide on them. Does Toyo have one? NO. You are a phoney and a liar
597914 1 year ago
@597914 Wrong. All GMs do not have override in them. You said other manufacturers. Honda, Ford, Chrysler, and Mitsubishi don't have them. You're an idiot. If a throttle was sticking, all anyone has to do is put the car in neutral. For being a car person, you don't know shit about cars. But you think US News is a car expert. Not Motor Trend, Road & Track, Automobile, Car & Driver.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand Toyota Motor Corp. officials bragged in late 2007 that they saved more than $100 million by deterring U.S. safety officials from ordering costly repairs to prevent runaway vehicles, e-mails obtained by The Detroit News show. The communications suggest some executives knew of the situation nearly two years earlier than was acknowledged in a July 2009 internal company document that surfaced this year. Hoax huh? You are so full of crap!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 I told you several times. Obviously your slow in the head and can't follow along. The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT investigated Toyota's black boxes. They found that the throttles were pushed and not the brakes. Ford, GM, and Chrysler had recalls for the exact same thing. The same supplier in Indiana that supplied Toyota also supplied GM, Ford, and Chrysler.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand Slow mind? Toyo's own executives admitted there was a problem. All the gov't investigation found was that the black boxes didn't record any problem that doen't measn it didn't happen Tell the 93 dead toyo drivers that it didn't happen fool!
597914 1 year ago
@43m1garand NHTSA also stated tha that investigation into sticking Toyo pedals is INCOMPLETE at that NO EVALUATION will be final until NEXT year! Just Like Rush and only telling HALF of the FACTS! Shut up fool! Its not the supplier's fault follower, its in Toyo's electronic design. I'm sure Toyo isn't hiding anything RIGHT? They have about $100 million reasons! LOL!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 You keep changing the subject like you did before. This is about unions not Toyota and Honda. I think that not only are you a socialist, you're a racist who hates orientals. You constantly bash them and have such a hatred for them that every time you comment you cut down orientals.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand toyota was fine the biggest fine they could get for covering thing up.dont you watch the news or do you only hear what you want
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 IT WAS A SHAKEDOWN!!!!!!!!!!! You have a mental disorder. The government fined Toyota. The government OWNS GM and Chrysler. That is a conflict of interest. The government wants to hurt Toyota because it is a competitor to Obama Motors. Toyota is successful. Unlike GM, Ford, and Chrysler.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand your hate union workers so much what happen your wife left you for a uaw worker lol what ever you cant stop us from getting paid.and last month ford sold more cars and made more proft then toyota so how cant you say they are not doing go.O I KNOW YOU DONT GO BY FACTS ONLY WHAT GLEN BECK SAYS
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 You have a crush on Glenn Beck and Toyota. Just like your dad 597914. All you do is talk about Glenn Beck and Toyota. I wouldn't be surprised you dream about them. Unskilled labor union worker hates America and anyone not unionized. What a shock. Gee. Who would have guessed? I'm still waiting on the answer to what Louisville Assembly is going to make. I guess it's a secret. Just like UAW pay.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@AJstar9 I've owned 3 since I was 16. My whole family, except for my Dad, have drive Toyotas and Hondas. My Dad drove Fords and Lincoln Mercury products. I should let him tell you how many times HIS cars were in the shop! The quality sucked! I remember once jumpstarting my Dad's Lincoln Town Car with my $4200 Toyota in -5 degree weather. Turned out his alternator was dead (his car was less than 1 year old). Anyway, I know you can't hear what I'm saying, so I'll stop...
rgeorge9260 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 Your view of unions and the UAW is totally distorted. UAW labor can compete, build for less and better quality. I hope you check out what is being build today. Your belief that large companies would be glad to hire several workers at 1/2 price to replace one UAW is absurd.They are constantly looking to eliminate jobs. Higher wages benefit the economy not reduced wages. Your thinking will create the haves and have nots. Which are you?
597914 1 year ago
@rgeorge9260 I've argued with AJstar9 and 597914 for several months on this same topic. It was on UAW Rejects Same Pay as Toyota video by lulunarf. These two don't get it. 597914 calls me names and changes the subject every time I've proved him wrong. He has absolutely no facts to back up what he says yet he thinks he knows it all. I bought Hondas for the same reason you did. I got tired of the constant repairs of GMs and Fords. A car is meant to drove, not to sit in a shop.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand YOUR DUMB ASS CANT READ FORD GOT THE NUMBER ONE SELLING AUTO THE F-150 AND THEY OUT SELL HONDA
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 UAW pay + benefits + pension = $74/hr. Toyota pay + benefits = $48. Like it is so hard to find out what you make.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand im happy with what i make.and its not hurting ford they have made over 5 billion in profit this year
AJstar9 1 year ago
@AJstar9 Ford has a lot more debt than Toyota so it is not as financially secure as Toyota . Toyota owns 51% of Daihatsu and 16.5% of Fuji Heavy Industries which is the parent company of Subaru. Toyota makes more than automobiles. It makes forklifts and robots. Also, Toyota makes medium and heavy duty trucks and buses sold under the name Hino.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand but its harder to make what i do.thats why you sit around crying i make to much.you so dumb you try to say honda out sells ford.i will no longer debate this.you nutts.plus i just got a $40,000 boat and so im going to enjoy my life and money
AJstar9 1 year ago
Most of you posters are ingnorant to the facts of FREE trade and want to blame the bullet for pulling the trigger. This contry isn't in bad economic shape because of unions. It this way because of our government and Wall street. Unions are about CIVIL RIGHTS. MLK Jr. was one of the biggest supporters of the UAW and Walter Reuther. SOLIDARITY!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 You're lying about MLK jr. He was about civil rights not socialism. Dr. Alevda King, MLK jr's niece, said that he was NOT for socialism. This is a lie spread by leftists trying to call people racist who do not support their agenda. You can see the video interview at glennbeck(dot)com/content/articles/article/198/39442/
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand I never said MLKJr was for socialism. He was for workers rights and a personal friend of Walter Ruether. UAW paid his bail to get him out of jail every time. MLKJr was for civil and human rights. The same thing the UAW is for. We know what we are worth and negotiated reduced benefits and gave up r 3% wage in 2003 just to compete but some of our neighbors still damn us. We want to be the employee of choice. It's not your daddy's UAW anymore. Its a new game and we are competeing
597914 1 year ago
@597914 YouTube Video of UAW being chased out of room by hostile union workers. Video is called "Local 23 sends International UAW Packing! "
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=owUjzuVLY-s&feature=player_embedded
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 MLK jr. was for civil rights not UAW rights. Stop rewriting history. Everything you stand for is socialist. I can list the 10 points of the Communist Manifesto and the 25 points of the Nazi platform of 1920 and we'll see how many match what you stand for. And none of what you stand for is in the US Constitution, you know, that document that is the law of the land that you hate.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand again you call me a socialist, communist and a nazi! and say I hate my country wich is a complete lie! all you can do is call names and repeat what your idols spout.you act like a paranoid militia follower. FYI civil rights includes the right to fair pay for fair days work THATS also what MLK stood for. Terrible working conditions, combined with unfair and devious payroll practices, lead to the labor movement in '37 and continues today. Need proof? Ask WV miners.
597914 1 year ago
@597914 You keep making fun of me because I have videos of Rush and Beck on my profile. Yet you don't say one word about the quotes I have on there by Washington and Jefferson. That's because you don't want people to know who you really are. You think Washington and Jefferson are dead white guys who are racists bigots and the US constitution is a road block to you spreading socialism.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand I don't have anyone on my profile because I am not a follower or a paranoid freak that believes what some whack job on TV or radio tells me is so. I can make up my own mind all by myself thank you. You hate unions yet you've never been in one or owned a company that employed one. You've never dealt with one and know knothing about one.Look up Toledo Accord before you rip on something you know knothing about.You are the onesided bigot that can't hold a job and blames unions.
597914 1 year ago
@597914 Keith Olbermann is who you watch. You said it yourself. You like loony liberal like yourself. No one tells me what to think. Unlike your stupid show, people call in to radio shows. Liberals listen too. Rush as an audience of over 20 million a week. Olbermann has 10. Rush has a company that verifies his facts. His accuracy is 99.6%. He has to be right a long time to go up one point. He has been right through the presidential elections of 2004 and 2008.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand BECK AND RUSH TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK! LOL! SURE RUSH IS 99% TRUTHFUL ON HALF THE FACTS...HE LEAVES OUT 100% OF THE OTHER FACTS THAT TELLS THE REAL STORY FOOL!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 Nobody tells me what to think. I have Rush and Beck on my profile because I know how much it irritates you leftists. The George Soros funded liberal organization Media Matters has a direct line to Kieth Olbermann's teleprompter. Olbermann is another loony liberal like you. Media Matters reports lies to the main stream media who run it as true. I've seen how they lie.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 So you are saying George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are paranoid freaks. All you talk about is Rush and Beck yet completely ignore my quotes by Washington and Jefferson. I never once cited anything from Rush or Beck. I did cite what the UAW was doing at GM in Indianapolis which came from the Socialist World Website. You can't handle the truth.
43m1garand 1 year ago
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597914 1 year ago
@43m1garand I have a BA from Eastern Michigan and have held the same UAW job for 26 years. Put 2 kids through college and put more money back into the economy than you'll ever make in your lifetime. That's what makes a good economy and country not working for a slave owner like WalMart! The UAW doesn't extort anything. They fight for the American Dream! What are YOU fighting for? A race to the bottom? Wake UP!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 You went to college. Who cares. You are still ignorant. You act like such an expert on everything yet you are a factory worker. What unions do is not a national secret. Anybody can find out what unions do and what you get paid. How do you know if I've been in a union or not? Are you a mind reader? You don't know where I've worked.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 You have a college degree yet you can not tell me where in the US Constitution is any of this stuff you support. Looks like you got ripped off.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand No YOU TELL ME WHERE IT ISN'T in the constitution. The constitution is about democracy "for the people" not DICTATORSHIP and CAST SOCIETY like YOU are for! You think you are so patriotic when in reality you are nothing but a fool being controled by your brainwashers they have you thinking the way they want a.. RACE TO THE BOTTOM!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 Once again you are a glittering jewel of colossal ignorance. If the government has the power to do something it will be in the constitution. You didn't even know what the first amendment was about. What you support is not in the constitution. That is why you won't tell me where it is in there. You just keep saying "tell me where it is not". You're another socialist trying to change the constitution.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 You keep talking about a race to the bottom yet the POOR in America have more than the middle class did in the 1960's. America's poor have more than Europe's middle class. During the summer, many French die because they don't have a/c in their homes when there is a heat wave. America's poor have a/c, TVs, phones, washer and dryers, cars, microwaves, stoves, and refrigerators. And anybody who goes to an emergency room MUST be treated, even if they don't have insurance. It is the law.
43m1garand 1 year ago
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@43m1garand you said."During the summer, many French die because they don't have a/c in their homes when there is a heat wave" this has got to be the most moronic statement I've ever seen! And you complain when other people change the subject. Now you are an expert on french living conditions. Did beck tell you that? LMAO!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 I think I must say things too fast for your slow mind. This is an example of what socialism does. Why don't you quote all of what I said? For someone who claims to have gone to college, you sure are slow in the head. Like I said before, any time you want to take an intelligence test, bring it on.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 Where in the US constitution does it say a certain amount of pay is a right? You keep ranting and raving but you will not tell me where anything you support is in the US constitution. All you do is smear me and the US military and will not prove me wrong. Stop whining and prove it.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand Now you say I smear the military! Where did that come from? My son is a corpsman in the NAVY and freedom to LL&PH is in the 1st amendment! LOL! I've never had a problem with Wash or Jefferson! Only you! And Rush and Beck who are your brainwashers. Union dues are OPTIONAL you fool! You know KNOTHING about any union!!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 You do smear the military. You tried to make it sound like I am crazy because of my user name and because I like guns. You said that Imust be ex-military and was bashing me for owning Japanese cars. I was in the military and so were some of my relatives and we have foreign cars. Union dues and membership are not optional unless you are in a right to work state. 22 states have this law. You are telling a half truth on that.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand HEY Fool I was smearing YOU! Not the military...I don't think you could really you get into the military! And if you would have read that post I was actually PRAISING YOU, IDIOT! YOU said I was bashing you cause you are a paranoid FREAK that watches Rush and Beck and puts them on your profile!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 No. You were smearing me, the military, and gun owners. You said to Ajstar9 in the UAW Rejects Same Pay as Toyota Workers, Kills Bailout Bill video that I must be ex-military or a gun lover because of my user name. You were trying to make it seem like military and gun owners are crazy. I told you I was in the military, pay attention. Any day you want to take an intelligence test, bring it on. We'll take the one I took in the military, not a test messed with by leftists.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 My job in the military that you hate. U.S. Air Force. Signal Intelligence Analyst Specialist. So you don't have to look it up since I know you can't do research and only go by what Kieth Olbermann tells you, it is a cryptographer. Codebreaker. Clearance is higher than Top Secret. I suppose you will call me a liar about that too. And you thought that I was just a stupid truck driver.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand You ARE a liar. And a stupid unskilled truck driver. You have never been in the military and are nothing but a pretender wanna be living in a fanatasy land! You know nothing about sticking gas pedals, Harbour Report, unions, trade laws, labor laws, economy or free trade. All you can rectite is what your idols Rush and Beck tell you. You look so much better online....
597914 1 year ago
@597914 You're the one who can't think. All you do is repeat what the unions, Olbermann, and other socialist say. You hate America so much which is pretty sad since it is the best, most free country in the world. There is more opportunity here than any where else. All of you leftists are control freaks. You want everyone else to be miserable like you. You people are not happy unless your miserable. Everything you have ever done is a failure.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand leftests are control freaks you say? let me see... you conservatives are against the Mexicans in Arizona, gays, gay marriage, unions, black presidents, YOU arent happy unles you are making everyone act like you! No youre jealous I have a college degree, great job in uaw appointment and a secure job and am happy n proud to be a real Amereican not like you! Loser!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 Mexicans who are ILLEGAL. Actually I hope the illegals take your job and the other union jobs. Then we can be rid of unions and have people who will work.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand Liar! again Union dues ARE OPTIONAL where ever you work. You do not do all the research. I do orientation at my plant and pass out union application cards to every employee GM hires and they can check the box to decline any dues being taken out. The UAW does not hire or fire people.
597914 1 year ago
@597914 NO, dues are not optional and joining a union is not optional UNLESS you work in a right to work state. You vehemently defend the unions and pretend they are perfect. I think it's because you're a bad worker. Good workers don't need unions. In a union shop you can't get a raise based on merit. You only get a raise when it's negotiated.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 You are a union rep. What a shock. I thought you might be. I suppose you support card check too. Of course you do, so people can be pressured into voting the way the union wants. You don't care about republics.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand I never said I was a union rep, or a communisit or a nazi or a socialist. That is YOUR twisted sick mind that has to paint everyone negatively to feel like you are right. But I wouldn't mind being a union rep...that is something to be proud of! You wish I were those things to make your argument, but I'M NOT. I'm a UAW member fighting for EVERYONE'S RIGHTS...UNLIKE YOU!
597914 1 year ago
@597914 You won't say you're a socialist because you're a spineless coward. Like the saying goes,if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it is a duck. UAW doesn't fight for everyone's right. It doesn't fight for owners of companies rights. Unions represent 7% of American workers. Why do you hate 93% of America? Because they are not in a union, that's why.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@43m1garand hey m1moron you keep saying I hate this, I hate that. You are the one who HATES. I've never hated anything except narrow mindedness and bigotry. Everything your heros Rush and Beck stand for. You like to talk for everyone but you can't even grasp the most simple concepts and know nothing about unions, UAW, contracts or the economy. it all comes down to your hate toward your black president and has nothing to do with his policies.
597914 1 year ago
@597914 You hate rich people. You hate CEOs, You hate corporations. You hate guns. You hate the US military. You hate orientals. You hate Wall Street. You love unions. You love socialism. And you LOVE Beck and Rush. You can't go one day without talking about them. Something Rush says that's right on: he lives rent free in your head. You constantly talk about him. Are you stalking Rush and Beck?
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 Another leftist calling people racist. Even though you said you marched with Jesse Jackson who is an anti-Semite. All Republicans are racist yet Republicans freed the slaves. You're still doing Saul Alinsky tactics. I don't like communism like you do. You hate things. I never once said I hate anything.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 Talk about someone who's greedy is you. All you care about is your pay check. You don't care about what happens to your employer or your country so long as you get your check. You don't care if both of them are ruined. Like you said " stick it to the man". You love unions so much you bend over and grab your ankles for them. And you love every minute of it.
43m1garand 1 year ago
@597914 You have not proved one thing I said wrong and have not presented a single fact. All you do is call me names and bash gun owners, the US military, and the rich. You are like a kid. All you do is call names and think you won the argument. You keep saying I don't know what the unions do yet you do not present facts to prove me wrong. Why don't you tell me what unions do?
43m1garand 1 year ago
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597914 1 year ago
@43m1garand Ther is another saying...if it acts like a bigot, sounds like a bigot, rants like a bigot..its a BIGOT..you ever hear the definition of a conservative? They usually wear white sheets and act like Scrooge.
597914 1 year ago
@597914 Democrats are the racists and bigots. Jesse Jackson smeared Jews. Sen. Robert Byrd of WV. was in the KKK and was a recruiter for them. Woodrow Wilson segregated the military and fed. gov. Bill Clinton said his mentor is William Fulbright - a segregationist. Fulbright was 1 of 99 Dems who signed the Southern Manifesto which opposes racial integration. Civil Rights Act of 1964 - 112 dems voted against. This is a few of the many examples of racists in the Democrat party.
43m1garand 1 year ago