BAPS SWAMINARAYAN AARTI (WITH REAL AARTI FLAME!)

[MrAnjaria001]

Bapa ane Bhagwan Swaminarayan Na Blessings Apane malya... AA video nathi Swayam Bhagwan ja che mate App ne Khub Khub Danyawad.

[priyap03able]

I don't like the way people dislike this :(

[niravdap]

"કોઈ કહેશે જે અક્ષરધામ કેવું હશે? તો આપણે તો ભગવાન દીઠા છે, અક્ષરધામમાં રહેનારા દીઠા છે,

ભગવાનની હજૂરના ને ભગવાનની પાસે રહેનારા દીઠા છે, ને કાનમાં વાતું કરી છે, હવે તો તેજ દેખાતું નથી

એટલું બાકી છે, માટે આ સાધુ છે તેમાં જ ભગવાન રહ્યા છે, માટે વિશ્વાસ રાખજો."

સ્વામીની વાત:૪/૬૭

[MultiHimraj]

All those seeking their liberation should not love those who are already liberated or the ascetics, like they would God. Ultimately they will only attain them regardless of their destination (even if that mukt or sadhu attains Akshardham and the bliss of God, his follower will be limited to that very soul only and not beyond him to Shriji Maharaj). So, don't love without thought. Gopalanand Swami ni vato 2/5. So, dont love any mukt like you would Shriji Maharaj 2/9.

[MultiHimraj]

Je mumukshu hoy, tene Bhagvan jevu het koi mukt ke sadhu ne vishe na karvu. Ane jo tevu het tene vishe kare to tene pan potane vishe jode. Mate vichari ne het karvu. Gopalanand Swami ni vato 2/5. Te vaste Maharajna jevu het koi mukt ne vishe het na rakhvu 2/9.

[MultiHimraj]

BOLYA GOPAL SWAMI TE PRATYA, JE THAYU TE SHRIJI SAMARTHYA, BIJA THAKI TE KAAY NA THAY, THALO BHALO FOGAT FULAAY!! BHAKTCHINTAMANI PRA. 142.

So why did your swami say "amo anyathakartu shakti vaprine jameen laien mandir karshu ne jo vadhare aada avshe to teno pasej karavsu. Atyare amrau dharyu thay che. Tek kon na padi shake tem che?" ?????

No sant says that.

[MultiHimraj]

PRABHU BIN HOVAT JAHI, ATI PAPI HAM MANAT TAHI, ANANT BRAHAND ME PAP HE JETE, NITYA KARAT HE PAPI TETE, TAKE SHIR LAGAT SO PAPA, PRABHU BIN BRABHU KAHAT JO APA.

whoever calls himself and has him called God is a deeper sinner then that of the sinners of the 5 sins. He everyday attains the sin of those sinners who perform 5 deadly sins in all the universes. Haricharitramrut Sagar 9.32

[MultiHimraj]

tcont...tyare samay suchak budhi vara Maganbhai (Africa vara) e mangni kari je 'he Swamo a mandir seva amone apjo'. Etle sakshat parmatma parbrahm swamishri e raji thai temne mathe hath mukya ane kahyu 'javo tamaro pahele number bhagh rakshu'. Pachi pragat purshottam ne dhotiya odhaarya" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They believe their Shastri to be God too!

[MultiHimraj]

Also on page 557 it says... "tyare koie kahyu je Hai Swami! Tamo jameen leva mateh prayaas karo cho pan Gadhada ma jameen malti nathi. Ne raja e pan apne apva mateh bandhi kari che to apane kyathi malshe? Tyare pragat Purshottam Narayan kahe je 'jo raja jameen nahi ape to chevte amo anyathakartu shakti vaprine jameen laien mandir karshu ne jo vadhare aada avshe to teno pasej karavsu. Atyare amrau dharyu thay che. Tek kon na padi shake tem che?

[MultiHimraj]

Also on page 29 of a BAPS publication it says "bhakt vatsal Bhagvan Purushottam Narayan ah lokma anya svarup dhari ne gurjar desh Maherav game krushikul ma Dhoribhai na bhuvan ma Hetba thaki pradurbhaav thata hata". Also on page 107: " Avi rite cha hetu mateh Purshottam Narayan e Akshardham ne mukto sathe Maharaj pote alok ma satsang na madhya ma janm dharan kari ne varnivesh dharan kari sadhu thai Yagnapurush nam dharan karyu".

[MultiHimraj]

In a book by BAPS called 'Siddhantsaar' on page 344 talks on Shastriji being Purna Purshottam. This is what it states: "jyare vadtal thi swamijinu akshar purshottam shudh sarvopari sampradai nu stapan karva nikarya tyare harikrishna maharaj tatha lakshminarayan eh traney jan swamini sevama haajar raheta tethi parcha ne aishvaria no to paaraj nohto." Also on page 8 it says "Pratyaksh Purshottam Swami Shri Yagnapurushdasjie baki rahelu kam puru karyu".

[sandy300307]

jsn bapa

[hemal362]

jay swaminarayan

[gkanparia]

Great work...I m watching this every morning....thx a lot

[vinodkumarpatel1985]

I like this video....nice one........

[vinodkumarpatel1985]

I like this video....nice one......

[vinodkumarpatel1985]

I like this video....nice one

[vinodkumarpatel1985]

nice

[LaxminarayanSevak]

ok. pramukh swami is a great being. but to call him as god himself is stretching it...if he himself denies it why do we try to use our little brains against a great saint like him who answers straightforwardly?

and i believe that this aarti is great however not original. BAPS claims to have "recently" found the document showing the arti but unfortunately that has no credibility to it. The original arti is narayan nar bhraata and written as such in older documents. thank you for hearing me out.

[108suvarna108]

@LaxminarayanSevak N01 calls himm God but we do respect and love him in accordance with Gadhada I 27

And if this aarti is unplatable to you, go and listen to your own version and be happy.

[magizgyal]

bullshit.. you god look like toys for little kids... save yourselves from this shit

[sangeetdunia]

@magizgyal r u happy for making that kind of comment, as a kid is happy with a toy we are happy with our god, please u don't like it don't comment, thank you

[LaxminarayanSevak]

@magizgyal ...and its people like you that help keep my faith in shree swaminarayan bhagwan. he mentions of people blinded by worldly desires and people who live upon their own whims, and hate others. in the entire swaminarayan sect...even if it be baps, the original sampraday, or others...we are taught to respect all, hate none...follow one. lol catchy isnt it

[magizgyal]

@LaxminarayanSevak I shouldn't of written that. I apologise

[108suvarna108]

@magizgyal Some Jesus on the Crucifix are really odd too. You dont see Hindus calling that shit. Grow up.

[juvenross1]

Thnks for sharing. I love Bapa. For me He is God. 

[158upen]

jay sahjanand swami

[TilakIlikenaruto]

hello.

[jaknap1]

Jai Swaminarayan

[mehulmakwan]

Thanks ! Friend U really done good Job....no one get idea like u got...Thanks a Ton.....Mehul.

[WORLDARYANREVIVAL]

i am a devotee of SRI BHAGAVAN SHIVA ..i used to live next door to a SWAMINARAYAN ASHRAM IN N.J. U.S.A ...

the sannyasins were always kind and nice to me and would let me worship sivalinga in the temple...

good times!

jai arya jai SWAMINARAYAN!

AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA!

[DepressedSoul1]

eeeerrrrmmmm???

[pintuswami]

thx mate

good job

[dragondipesh]

Thnk you sooo much Great job

[xoanuxo101]

awsome job...=]]...n thank you for the ashirvaad at the end...=]]

jay swaminarayan

[sonnyg121]

of the river Ghela, since at that time there

was no mandir in Gadhada. So, Maharaj and the senior sadhus slept in the darbar and the other sadhus slept

either on the riverbank or on the wooden platforms of

shops in the village.

[sonnyg121]

faith. He cares neither for

his body nor for sleep. Although he sees Maharajs murti

constantly in his heart, he craves so much for Maharajs

personal darshan. With this thought Muktanand Swami

returned to his room. But Swami stood there till late in the night, halfdrenched

and shivering. When Maharaj returned after

delivering discourses, Swami had a glimpse of him in

the light of a thunderbolt. Thereafter, he went to the

outskirts of Gadhada and slept under the shade of a tree

by the banks

[sonnyg121]

under the eaves of a room, trying to save

himself from the rain, while waiting to have a glimpse of

Maharaj. Meanwhile, Muktanand Swami came out of his

room for some reason and saw somebody standing there.

So he enquired, Whos there?

Swami humbly replied, It is I, Nirgunanand. I am

waiting for a glimpse of Maharaj when he returns after his discourse at the darbar.

Muktanand Swami was surprised when he saw

Swamis desire for Maharajs darshan. He thought to

himself, Oh! Look at his deep

[sonnyg121]

The glory of great people lies in their way of life. The divine virtues of Swami, described by Shriji Maharaj, were observed in his life on many occasions. It was 1812 CE (Samvat 1868). There was a light shower of rain on that dark night in Gadhada. The sky was covered with clouds and was illuminated with intermittent thunderbolts. All the sadhus had retired to sleep after enjoying the spiritual discourses and darshan of Maharaj. At that time Gunatitanand Swami was standing half-drenched

[sonnyg121]

So he began to touch the lotus feet of Maharaj to his chest. So Swami asked him, " Lakshman, what are you doing?" Lakshman replied, "I am touching the lotus feet Of Maharaj to my chest. This is Maharaj. Where are you, Swami?" All those who were present were surprised. When they shook Lakshman and asked, he narrated his experience in reply. In this way, everyone was convinced about the fact that Maharaj was constantly in union with Swami

[sonnyg121]

Gunatitanand Swami had arrived at Samadhiyala along with Krupanand Swami. Here Gunatitanand Swami had permitted Vira Sheladia's son Lakshman to ask one question everyday and Swami used to reply to that question. On one such occasion, while replying to a question by Lakshman, Swami referred to the infinite glory of Maharaj. Swami became overwhelmed and so much light emanated from his body that Lakshman was dazzled. In the midst of a halo he saw Maharaj instead of Swami.

[sonnyg121]

look i already gave you the answer to this why do you ignore it....

[jaisarasvatimaa]

dear friends discussing our faith, jai swaminarayan to you both. I want to say I am so pleased you both are enjoying the aarti and discussion, however please remember that everything you both have discussed here is great, however the ultimate in religion is the frame of mind and pureness of ones heart when approaching God. Texts and scriptures of all types are great, however, main is the faith and good deeds and pure heart...this alone can lead one to God.

JAI SWAMINARAYAN.

[sonnyg121]

yes indeed thx....Jai Swaminarayan

[sonnyg121]

Sadguru Gopãlãnand Swãmi has classified dhyãn

meditation into four types: (1) Sang dhyãn (2) Upãng dhyãn (3)

Sapãrshad dhyãn and (4) Salil dhyãn. The third type of

meditation Sapãrshad dhyãn implies meditation on God

along with His devotee. Thus Gopãlãnand Swãmi also

approves of meditating on Bhagwãn along with His Bhakta.

[sonnyg121]

By His antaryãmi shakti, Shriji Mahãrãj enters Prakriti Purush,

Pradhãn Purush and others in the evolutionary chain. The

scriptures forbid meditation on them. But when God specially

enters them for a specific mission, they are identified as the

form of God and are worthy of being meditated upon. Barring

that, even Brahmã, Vishnu, Mahesh and other deities do not

qualify for meditation as described by Shriji Mahãrãj in Vedras

[sonnyg121]

Sadguru Shatãnand Muni specifically states in his

commentary on the Shikshãpatri that according to Shaunak

Munis assertion,2 there cannot be any objection to meditating

on the eternally pure Chaitanya Brahman (described as Naisargik

or Amal Brahman) along with God.

[sonnyg121]

The Shikshãpatri (verse 115) has forbidden us to meditate

upon Brahmavettã the knower of Brahman. The reason for this

is that no spiritual advancement is possible by meditating on

those who have become enlightened through knowledge,

previously being in an unenlightened state1 as opposed to

Aksharbrahman, who is eternally enlightened.

[sonnyg121]

The Guru the Anãdi Brahman Gunãtit Saint is the root of

meditation. Therefore, when Aksharbrahman, the divine abode

of Shriji Mahãrãj, is manifest on earth in human form he

also, like Shriji Mahãrãj and His worshipped form, is forever

worthy of being meditated upon.

[sonnyg121]

Furthermore it is said that:

DHYÃNAMULAM GURORMURTIHI PUJÃMULAM GUROHO PADAM æ

SHÃSTRAMULAM GURORVÃKYAM MOKSHAMULAM GUROHO KRIPÃ ææ The root of meditation is the Gurus image. The root of worship is

the Gurus feet. The root of the scriptures is the Gurus word and the

root of salvation is the Gurus compassion

[sonnyg121]

even

though his devotional fervour is so weak as to attain

perfection after ten births or hundreds of births. Such is the

blessed grace bestowed by God to a devotee who offers

worship to His brahmanised Saint on par with Him.

[Vachanãmritam Vartãl 5]

[sonnyg121]

similarly, the

choicest devotee of God should also be equally offered

worship by performing the same rituals and offering him the

same sanctified offerings which are graced by God. A devotee

who does this, even if he is imperfect in his devotional

fervour, would attain perfection during this very birth,

[sonnyg121]

attention on the Saints virtues, glory and powers?

To acquire nirvikalp knowledge, Shriji Mahãrãj says: This

Akshar is the divine abode of Purushottam Nãrãyan. One has to

attain oneness with this Akshar; and with this Aksharbhãv, offer

upãsanã to Lord Purushottam. [Vachanãmritam Loyã 12]

Therefore to become one with Akshar, it is essential to meditate

on him.

And Shriji Mahãrãj categorically states: In the way one

offers worship to God by performing rituals,

[sonnyg121]

I have

similar love and devotion for His choicest devotee.

[Vachanãmritam Gadhadã II/50] If God has love and devotion

for His Bhakta, then why should we not follow His example?

To become Brahmarup, Shriji Mahãrãj advises: If one

meditates upon this Brahman, he would become enlightened

with the redemptive attributes of Brahman. [Vachanãmritam

Gadhadã II/31] While meditating, can a devotee not focus

attention on the Saints virtues, glory and powers?

[sonnyg121]

Shriji Mahãrãj says in the Vachanãmritam: The

divine form of Lord Shri Krishna should be meditated upon

with His consort Rãdhã. [Vachanãmritam Gadhadã I/5]

Thus, Shriji Mahãrãj has shown His inclination for the

meditation of Bhakta along with Bhagwãn.

Shriji Mahãrãj also says: I have merged Myself totally into

the pure and perfect form of Brahman. I have exuberant

devotion and attachment to Lord Purushottam who is seated

with a form in the divinely illuminated Akshardhãm.

[sonnyg121]

Without the contact of a brahmanised Saint and his

grace, the principles of Vachanãmritam and other

scriptures or nishchay 1 of God cannot be understood

or explained by ones own efforts.

[sonnyg121]

After departing from this earth, Shriji Mahãrãj

remains pragat forever manifest through

Aksharbrahman. After returning to the divine abode,

Shriji Mahãrãj continued to manifest through

Aksharbrahman Gunãtitãnand Swãmi. In the same

spiritual hierarchy of Gurus, Shriji Mahãrãj at present

totally manifests through His Divine Holiness

Pramukh Swãmi Mahãrãj

[sonnyg121]

There are infinite muktas who have become like

Aksharbrahman. But Aksharbrahman is one and unique.

He can create infinite muktas. But all the muktas put

together cannot match Aksharbrahman. Purushottam is

beyond Aksharbrahman and Aksharbrahman is beyond

the muktas. In this way mukta, Akshar and Purushottam

are successively higher than each other, are distinct

and remain so even at the end of ãtyantik pralay the

final rest.

[sonnyg121]

Aksharbrahman is the eternal sevak, an ideal Bhakta of

Parabrahman. He worships Parabrahman with sevakbhãv.

Similarly, we also have to become Aksharrup and offer

upãsanã and bhakti worship to Purushottam

Nãrãyan. In this way, our upãsanã, as such, is to be

offered to Purushottam Nãrãyan.

[sonnyg121]

Parabrahman dwelling in Akshardhãm is none other

than the ultimate avatãri of all avatãrs Shriji Mahãrãj

manifesting on earth. One must not think that Shriji

Mahãrãj dwelling in Akshardhãm is the avatãri and His

manifest form on earth is an avatãr. There is no

distinction of avatãr and avatãri in the form of Shriji

Mahãrãj. Shriji Mahãrãj in Akshardhãm is the very

same Shriji Mahãrãj manifesting pragat on earth.

[sonnyg121]

whay do you keep saying that BAPS thinks akshar is GOD...lol you don't even know what BAPS believes in....learn that  first.....meditating on akshar is necessary to attain the brahmrup state in order to offer bakhti to purshottam...and only akshar who is eternal not someone who had become brahmrup....even they have become brahmrup through meditation on akshar....lol

[sonnyg121]

i never said they were fake...lol why do you say that....i m saying that they do not exist in my references that bear the seal of the acharya....excuse me but these are scriptures clearly within your sampraday.....i m not adding anything of my own here....lol...you cannot even reply to any of my direct quotes.....you change the topic and start referring to other scriptures.....focus on one....

[sonnyg121]

Thus Gopãlãnand Swãmi also

approves of meditating on Bhagwãn along with His Bhakta......here more references.....how can you possibly overlook all this..it is clearly in the scriptures.....how can you even twist....scriptures like you did...these are sanctioned by BAPS and also have seal of acharya maharaj...come on!!! look we can literally keep going forever like this.....so how about you stop the blame game and grow up....

[sonnyg121]

are identified as the

form of God and are worthy of being meditated upon. Barring

that, even Brahmã, Vishnu, Mahesh and other deities do not

qualify for meditation as described by Shriji Mahãrãj in Vedras.

Sadguru Gopãlãnand Swãmi has classified dhyãn

meditation into four types: (1) Sang dhyãn (2) Upãng dhyãn (3)

Sapãrshad dhyãn and (4) Salil dhyãn.The third type of

meditation Sapãrshad dhyãn implies meditation on God

along with His devotee.

[sonnyg121]

Sadguru Shatãnand Muni specifically states in his

commentary on the Shikshãpatri that according to Shaunak

Munis assertion,2 there cannot be any objection to meditating

on the eternally pure Chaitanya Brahman (described as Naisargik

or Amal Brahman) along with God.

By His antaryãmi shakti, Shriji Mahãrãj enters Prakriti Purush,

Pradhãn Purush and others in the evolutionary chain. The

scriptures forbid meditation on them. But when God specially

enters them for a specific mission, they

[sonnyg121]

of Shriji Mahãrãj, is manifest on earth in human form he

also, like Shriji Mahãrãj and His worshipped form, is forever

worthy of being meditated upon.

The Shikshãpatri (verse 115) has forbidden us to meditate

upon Brahmavettã the knower of Brahman. The reason for this

is that no spiritual advancement is possible by meditating on

those who have become enlightened through knowledge,

previously being in an unenlightened state1 as opposed to

Aksharbrahman, who is eternally enlightened.

[sonnyg121]

with Him.

[Vachanãmritam Vartãl 5]

Furthermore it is said that:

DHYÃNAMULAM GURORMURTIHI PUJÃMULAM GUROHO PADAM æ

SHÃSTRAMULAM GURORVÃKYAM MOKSHAMULAM GUROHO KRIPÃ ææThe root of meditation is the Gurus image. The root of worship is

the Gurus feet. The root of the scriptures is the Gurus word and the

root of salvation is the Gurus compassionThe Guru the Anãdi Brahman Gunãtit Saint is the root of

meditation. Therefore, when Aksharbrahmanthe divine abode

[sonnyg121]

of God should also be equally offered

worship by performing the same rituals and offering him the

same sanctified offerings which are graced by God. A devotee

who does this, even if he is imperfect in his devotional

fervour, would attain perfection during this very birth, even

though his devotional fervour is so weak as to attain

perfection after ten births or hundreds of births. Such is the

blessed grace bestowed by God to a devotee who offers

worship to His brahmanised Saint on par

[sonnyg121]

To acquire nirvikalp knowledge, Shriji Mahãrãj says: This

Akshar is the divine abode of Purushottam Nãrãyan. One has to

attain oneness with this Akshar; and with this Aksharbhãv, offer

upãsanã to Lord Purushottam. [Vachanãmritam Loyã 12]Therefore to become one with Akshar, it is essential to meditate

on him.

And Shriji Mahãrãj categorically states:In the way one

offers worship to God by performing rituals, similarly, the

choicest devotee

[sonnyg121]

I have

similar love and devotion for His choicest devotee.

[Vachanãmritam Gadhadã II/50]If God has love and devotion

for His Bhakta, then why should we not follow His example?

To become Brahmarup, Shriji Mahãrãj advises: If one

meditates upon this Brahman, he would become enlightened

with the redemptive attributes of Brahman. [Vachanãmritam

Gadhadã II/31] While meditating, can a devotee not focus

attention on the Saints virtues, glory and powers?

[sonnyg121]

Shriji Mahãrãj says in the Vachanãmritam: The

divine form of Lord Shri Krishna should be meditated uponwith His consort Rãdhã. [Vachanãmritam Gadhadã I/5]Thus, Shriji Mahãrãj has shown His inclination for the

meditation of Bhakta along with Bhagwãn.

Shriji Mahãrãj also says: I have merged Myself totally into

the pure and perfect form of Brahman. I have exuberant

devotion and attachment to Lord Purushottam who is seated

with a form in the divinely illuminated Akshardhãm.

[sonnyg121]

ok first of all the land on which this debate was on has already been occupied by BAPS even before this feud...legally you can see all the documents on the series on youtube...lol...i think you are either very confused or are confusing cases....but regardless do see the series...

[sonnyg121]

what bs....i put all these up with reference to the books with the seal of the acharya.....hahaha....looks like you have different scriptures within your own sampraday.....lol....as for your link it does not work....so please send it to me....what by screwing up the order of the scriptures you think you will confuse me....nice try

[sonnyg121]

YES BUT DID YOU READ THE SECOND PART.....It is no wonder then that the images installed by

perfect celibate brahmanised Saints such as Shãstriji Mahãrãj,

Yogiji Mahãrãj and Pramukh Swãmi Mahãrãj are beneficent

and divine.Paramchaitanyãnand Swãmi, Swayamprakãshãnand Swãmi

and Ãnandãnand Swãmi respectively installed images.....

[sonnyg121]

bapa even apologizes' es to kids...it is called humility one of the 39 qualities described by bhagwan ved vyas of a true gunatit satpurush...Jai Swaminarayan

[sonnyg121]

and where do you get stuff like privithianand swami was mad at Bhagati maharaj...lol shastrji maharaj himself asked privithianand swami about the ap upasana....hahaha....don't lie.....for anyone can create fake prasangs......the satpurush works through BAPS and maharaj works through the satpurush...and don't think that if pramukh swami maharaj bows to the acharya that the acharya is more powerful..it is foolish to state such...for swami bows to him because maharajs blood runs through him

.

[sonnyg121]

BAPS controls the media....hahahahahahahahahahah­ahahahahahahaha.....the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard....and who told you you won the gaddha case....first of all there was no case.....second of all BAPS did not even respond they just sat still and let the government do the work...haha...how foolish of you to state that..... i am not generalizing...wow...almost all of your santos are like that...i don't know about bhuj...i think i might be more aganakari than some of you santos..

[sonnyg121]

are you happy here all the scriptures with you references...clear this is to be taken literally like you said....here are you happy?...now don't start to twist these will ya....do maharaj and swami a favor......Jai Swaminarayan

[sonnyg121]

give up his habitual lethargy

and religiously worship God.1 [Satsangijivanam II/51:9]

As explained in this shloka, the brahmanised Param

Bhãgavatam Saint is most worthy of giving initiation and

installing images.

Mention has also been made that Mãdhavjibhãi son of

Lãlji Suthãr (Nishkulãnand Swãmi), and the two brothers of

Sadguru Adbhutãnand Swãmi were initiated as sãdhus by

Sadguru Gopãlãnand Swãmi.2

[sonnyg121]

Shriji Mahãrãj specifically

asked both ãchãryas to follow the guidance of Sadguru

Gopãlãnand Swãmi.

Regarding the initiation of sãdhus, Shriji Mahãrãj says in

Satsangijivanam: Initiation should be given by a highly

religious Param Ekãntik Saint and the divine images the basis

of bhakti should be received from a sadguru, as images

consecrated by a sadguru are worthy of meditation by the

devotee. After receiving initiation and the consecrated images

from the guru, the devotee should

[sonnyg121]

Yet such images are being worshipped daily.

Even the ãchãrya is initiated given vartmãn by a

prominent sãdhu. Ãchãrya Vihãrilãlji Mahãrãj was initiated by

Aksharbrahman Gunãtitãnand Swãmi. This fact has been noted

by him in one of his kirtans:

AKSHARMURTI GUNÃTITÃNAND SWÃMI, TENE ÃPYÃ VARTMÃN.

Aksharmurti Gunãtitãnand Swãmi gave me vartmãn.

Prior to returning to His abode

[sonnyg121]

Despite the presence of Shriji Mahãrãj and the two ãchãryas

(S.Y. 1886, Mãgshar Sud 6) Shriji Mahãrãj had the image

installation ceremonies at Burãnpur and Dhargãm performedby prominent sãdhus. In many other temples, the ãchãryas

performed the ãrti ceremony long after the installation. In the

meantime, did followers not worship or have darshan of the

images in those temples?Are the images used in ones daily pujã all given by the

ãchãryas?

[sonnyg121]

Addressing the sãdhus, Sukhakand (Shriji Mahãrãj) says,

Paramchaitanyãnand, you may kindly go to Burãnpur and perform

the installation ceremony of Lakshminãrãyan.

The followers there will feel as pleased by your presence as they

would by Mine.

And please listen Swayamprakãshãnand, you are foremost among

the sãdhus.

Therefore go to Dhargãm to perform the installation ceremony.

[Harililãmritam IX: 6]

[sonnyg121]

temples at Burãnpur, Dhargãm and Bharuch.

PACHHI SANTNE KAHE SUKHAKAND,

SUNO PARAMCHAITANYÃNAND;

TAME BURÃNPURMÃ SIDHÃVO, LAKSHMINÃRÃYAN PADHARÃVO.

AMOTHI JANANE SUKH JEVU, TAMOTHI PAN TYÃ THASHE TEVU;

SUNO SWAYAMPRAKÃSHÃNAND,

TAME PAN MUNIGANANÃ CHHO CHAND.

MÃTE JÃO TAME DHARGÃM, KARO JAINE PRATISHTHÃNU KÃM;

[sonnyg121]

Only he deserves to be called an ãchãrya who has not

simply studied the scriptures, but lives in accordance with

them.2

The images installed by such virtuous ãchãryas spark with

divinity. It is no wonder then that the images installed by

perfect celibate brahmanised Saints such as Shãstriji Mahãrãj,

Yogiji Mahãrãj and Pramukh Swãmi Mahãrãj are beneficent

and divine.Paramchaitanyãnand Swãmi, Swayamprakãshãnand Swãmi

and Ãnandãnand Swãmi respectively installed images in

[sonnyg121]

The characteristics of a son who is worthy of being

appointed as ãchãrya: the son whose virtues are liked by

religious-minded persons, who is capable of protecting the

dharma of his disciples, who has profound faith in the religiouspractices and the ethical codes of the Sampradãya only that

son, but no other, is worthy of being appointed as guru.1

Defining the ãchãrya, the leading authors of the scriptures

say:

[sonnyg121]

In the absence of a suitable person in the immediate family,

another suitable member of Dharmavansh should be selected.

In this way, selection is not based on birth but on religious

and virtuous merit. For this very purpose, Shriji Mahãrãj has

prescribed the moral duties of the ãchãryas.

[sonnyg121]

Shriji Mahãrãj has clearly stated in Satsangijivanam

that the ãchãryas post should not be determined by birth. The

decisive factors in the selection of an ãchãrya should be faith in

dharma and virtuous conduct. Shriji Mahãrãj has said that the

eldest son should not necessarily be appointed as ãchãrya; only

one who is deeply religious and worthy should be appointed

as ãchãrya with the approval of all the sãdhus and devotees.

[sonnyg121]

yes i was wrong...the hate in you spread to me and i already told you that i was wrong...and don't make up things.....in karyani 11 you will see that maharaj says that the power he has is the power his sant has according to his karuna....

[sonnyg121]

Type this

What is the True story Behind Gadhada 10

open you eyes santdas...open your eyes....A very sad day indeed for maharaj and swami....

[sonnyg121]

you want to see guru dhrois and vachan dhrios....you want to see who is excommunicated from the fellowship...here see for yourself...see how the media sees the Mul Sampraday and how it sees BAPS..

[sonnyg121]

not recognizing pragat bhagwan....that itself is your own lack of incapacity...

[sonnyg121]

no no no .... you cannot attain akshardham without akshar....this is clearly stated in the scriptures....you realize it now or when you come back.....no bhagwan swaminarayan clearly tells that akshar has uttam nirvikalp nischay..so to become brahmrup we must meditate on akshar.....

[sonnyg121]

no no ...he told malgi soni that gunatitanand swami was mul akshar....which malgi soni told shastriji maharaj...he told them the above too....

[sonnyg121]

not advancing with the scriptures....they are not advancing with spreading the scriptures.....because they are guru dhrois and vachan dhrois and do not follow maharajs agana...

[sonnyg121]

what original way....the akshar purshottam upasana is the original way...we know who is

excommunicated....

[sonnyg121]

by saying only a little part of a story does not summarize the whole story.....you are so foolish to state 1 paragraph and claim that this is what happened..

[sonnyg121]

yes i have...shastrji maharaj was also a lion in the true sense of it...

[sonnyg121]

hey say the dharmvanshi acharya means a sadhu....WHAT !!!! haha..no no...that wrong...we do not say that...

[sonnyg121]

oh ok yea...ok...what hahahaha.....it does not destroy it actually supports our way of worship...haha what a foolish statement that is

[sonnyg121]

raghuvirji maharaj himself sang in one of his kirtans....mul akshar gunatitanand swami eh diksh appie....and where does it say all the thing you said in the BAPS website...show me..there must be a reason behind it....Jai Swaminarayan....

[sonnyg121]

you think that by calling BAPS and its followers excommunicated you will feel better ...i hope you do...because it is only a mere feeling....we all know who the real guru dhrois and vahcan dhrios are.....we know who is really excommunicated....you don't need to tell me that...for maharaj and swami are with us...clearly we are spreading the true way..and are setting an example....even your acharya knows that the present situation in the mul sampraday is bad...even he cant do anything about it...

[sonnyg121]

his guru was a nand sant...it is not in any of the vatos of the paramhansas because thay would have been killed if they would have stated the ap upasana.....it was even hard to digest that maharaj was purna purshottam by some back then...you fool...the akshar deri was there when shastrji maharaj was young....BAPS did not even exist then and shastrji maharaj had not even began preaching the ap upasana....how foolish of you to state such...

[sonnyg121]

you are so stupid.....the 4 paramhansos had a picture taken in 1856....also i never said that shastrrji maharaj confirmed this after he received diksha...he went before and after....also where does it state so in the BAPS website....to let u know even shastriji maharaj was skeptical of ap upasana when bhagatji maharaj told him about it....but he didn't leave it there..shahtrji maharaj was a scholar he confirmed it with every source available to him...

[sonnyg121]

....you talk all the crap about BAPS.....but we are the only ones who follow maharajs agana....our shadus do not have bank accounts....our shadus do not touch money....our shadus don't hold elections...our shadus don't serve food to women....our shadus don't kill...i think its you who are guru drohis and vachan drohis...it is you who are the vimukhs....just by being under the acharya does not give you the right to call other vimukh....may maharaj and swami forgive you peace....

[sonnyg121]

you r a fool 2 say that no nand santos were alive during shastriji maharajs time...you havent even understoof this....here are 5

pragnanand swami

bhumsanand swami

adbhutanand swami

pavitranand swami

vignanand swami

how come you dont know this....

[sonnyg121]

it was even hard to accept that maharaj was purahottam narayan by some so if they would have started talking about gunatitanand swami being mul akshar their live would have been in danger....this is not heresay...the people who you do not trust are strict bhagats of maharaj...yes the advancement of this Satsang lays within the scriptures....no wonder the mul sampraday is not advancing in satsang..they disregard the scriptures...look who is spreading satsang to the whole wide world...look and see

[sonnyg121]

scriptures...yea ok....come on the nand santos and shastriji maharaj did not lie when they said the gunatitanand swami was mul akshar..worship akshar..to meditate on akshar makes one brahmswaroop which is necessary to attain akshardham...in karyani 11 maharaj talks about one with uttam nirvikalp nitchay which is akshar...this is the key maharaj later says that if one realizes this they can attain akshardham in 1 birth rather than to have to take 1000...there is no kalyan without realizing this

[sonnyg121]

way later lol...his guru was a nand sant....i can name all 15 paramhansas..give me some time...i know abuthanand swami was one...those paintings clearly stated Gunatitanand Swami Mul Akshar...jeez come on Gopaland Swami told malgi soni that gunatitanand swami was mul akshar...the cremation samadhi of gunatitananad swami in vartal...was referred a Akshar Deri.....you are clearly brainwashed....

[sonnyg121]

krishna ada gopaland swamis devotee himself told shastriji maharaj that maharaj talked about ap upasana to gopaland swami.shastriji maharaj asked all the 15 paramhansas...all of them said that maharaj talked about the ap upasana....maharaj and swamis murtis and paintings were already there before shastrji maharaj even was born.come on you are a fool for not realizing this.thank shastriji maharaj for what he did for the swaminaryan sampraday...you will not understand his mahima with a closed mind

[sonnyg121]

its a parable for God s sake...don't get the wrong meaning out of it....straight road means for those who are confused should take the read which twists to the right way because it is right....which is the AP upasana established by Bhagwan Swaminarayan and the Nand santos whom you disregard....

[sonnyg121]

i pray that Bhagwan give you the peace you need and i also pray i must relay and follow the message, commands of Bhgwan and the works of the paramhans's for as long as i live...

[sonnyg121]

ever taken philosophy? i guess not....when there is no straight road...one must take the road which twists the right way..its a famous parable...i m guessing you haven't heard of it yet...no matter i m not going to explain it for that will be of topic...

[sonnyg121]

wrong....yes that is legally...but in reality it has been there since maharaj took birth on this earth...

[sonnyg121]

yes indeed at least its twisted the right way!! haha....unlike yours:)

[nish3123]

who is the author of Bochasan Bandh? does it have an Acharya seal on it?

[nish3123]

FYI the BAPS website has only been down in the pipeline for the past 7-8 yrs....so us the devotees read the shikshapatri daily in the morning during puja...besides you are not yet answering my question about the why oxford is not re-posting the digital version of shikshapatri ...you are in the UK so you should tell them to repost it as there are 1000's of devotees who want it! ..nevertheless,do try, Jai Swaminarayan

[nish3123]

then what about Ajendraprasadji maharaj and Lalji Maharaj? aren't they in the direct lineage of Maharaj and aren't they still living?

[sonnyg121]

of course you agree with yourself:)

[sonnyg121]

i never said original sampradays temples do not follow the rules strictly...i was quoting the westerner....clearly he was not biased...he only stated the facts as he saw them...

[sonnyg121]

santds arks101 is from canada....why dont you start claiming that me and him are the same person....why do you make irrrelevant conclusions...

[sonnyg121]

i never talked ill of your guru...stop making up lies...

[sonnyg121]

why do you vedmas and krupanidhan have the same biased level of thinking??

[sonnyg121]

yes every acharya is sent by Bhagwan but you have to recognize him..

[nish3123]

Santdas, could you please give me some information about Acharya Rakeshprasad maharaj....it would be better if you could give me a link of some literature about him and his biography as i am unable to locate anything about him on the amdavad gadi website....

Who is Nautam swami? i see there is a video posted here called Nautam Lila....who is he?

thanks

[nish3123]

im sorry i meant the vadtal gadi...

[nish3123]

JaiSwaminarayan Santdas,

i was wondering if you were able to inquire about the digital shikshapatri from Oxford Uni...they have removed the video and the site keeps saying its under construction...i contacted the professor via email and was told that it will take a few months to post it again...i am not sure if u live close by, but since u are in the UK, i would appreciate if you could have a word with Oxford uni to repost the Digital Shikshapatri online...thanks.

[arks101]

the reason is that your actions are a clear representation of what your religion or sect teaches you to do..i really pity you and your petty thinking..we don't call anyone mayavadis, every religion has extremists..,once again, a petty person only thinks of a cup half empty...i have not seen sonnyg or any other posters spread so much negativity like you do..u have ur own little cult with few followers...get a life ,that all i have to say..god is 1 with diff names..hare krsna~ "oh silent reader"

[arks101]

i have heard of many people who like stopping one's progress or those who just hav nothing good to say about anything...very negative people....well i guess after reading to all your comments on here and other posts on other forums...i've found myself you two who need to realy work on your karma phal.... may lord krishna bless you all here

|| Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevayah ||

[sonnyg121]

arks101 an elephant doesn't bother to look at ants on the ground...they have been doing this for 100 years.... but nothing has come out of it...if they had to prove BAPS's philosophy wrong they would have done so 100 years ago when it was formed...but they couldn't ... instead they started spreading lies and hate about BAPS....even the Leader of Vartal Gadi knew of this but he couldn't do anything as he was under pressure from the opposers of BAPS....

[nish3123]

Gordhanbhai kothari....

[arks101]

i didnt even know about the swaminarayan faith until i read about Akshardham in Delhi...the amount of volunteer work and faith that their followers have in the cause is very impressive..vadmas and sant-das-ji i think you'll should worry about your own souls and its fruits rather then worrying about whose soul you feel sorry..you guys are basically the people who stand outside a religious place with big posters saying " no god in here" or "bomb threat in here,keep out"

[vadmas3]

Yes this is exactly my point, you did not know until you read about akshardham in delhi, you have from the start looked at BAPs have you looked at the other side of the story, the not so publicised original sanstha? i guess not, without this it is quite pointless to counter your views, i am not disrespecting you in any way i just suggest that you read more on swaminarayan sastha, thank you for your time, Jay swaminarayan.

[sonnyg121]

arks101 i encourage you to read more about the shansta and try and visit some BAPS mandirs and then visit some Gadi mandirs....and see for yourself who is more strict in following the rules of Lord Swaminarayan...you see BAPS doesn't convert anyone.. people see the truth behind BAPS and are drawn closer to it....where as these people go on BAPS videos and try to fill their minds with doubt....they have been doing it for 100 years now... so they are good at it...Good Luck:) Jai Swaminarayan

[arks101]

i think by worrying about other people's salvation, santdasji and your other fellow bashers on other sites have forgotten your own moksham..ego,superiority complex,obsessive personality disorder.fanaticism are some big obstacles that one needs to overcome to do good in this society and win god's respect...but you bashers, don't think that you god swaminaayan or whoever u believe in is not watching you guys diverting even you well wishers away from your faith..

[arks101]

and what good will your knowledge do to you when you cannot identify a pure person and instead disrespect a saint...even srila Prabhupadaji has tremendous respect for Pramukh swamiji, not only that, almost all the big saints of our present time here in India and i am sure abroad have great respect for his saintliness and his work..

[vadmas3]

yes his work is good, but i am afraid you do not know the indepthness of the swaminarayan scriptures, you have seen the outer layer to this sanstha, thus you do not see the need to question BAPs belief system, if you had seen and or visited any original mandirs of shreeji mahraj im pretty sure any haribhakt, or sadhu would happily explain what is right and what is wrong to you.

[sonnyg121]

arks101 for the outer layer to be pure one must be pure from the inside... don't listen to vedmas he will twist the scriptures and you will think that he is right...and it is not about right or wrong..it is about realizing God which BAPS and HDH Pramukh Swami Maharaj have done...there will always be haters but you have to distinguish between right and wrong..

[vadmas3]

Sonnyg you are so influenced by what you think is correct you are just being ignorant towards others views, atleast take it into consideration, its pretty pathetic and at the end of the day its your own will, your own atma its just a shame you know the glory of shreeji mahraj, yet you can still not attain his feet, its really quite sad.

[arks101]

i have been a silent reader here,a member of ISKCON...its shameful that santdas and vadmas have been bashing almost all the swaminarayan BAPS videos on youtube...even if someone has to say something good about the music or the devotional songs,i have noticed that all you have is negative things to say about it...u think god likes that and that you are superior? quite the opposite...God is the ultimate judge, and by spreading nothing but hatred and awful bashing , god will judge you...

[vadmas3]

I have to disagree with you, we are not trying to post hatred, if something is being said wrong in gods name would you not speak up, if you knew the truth wouldnt god want you to stand up and protect the religion he established a mere 250 so what years ago? We are not bashing any videos, and i do not comment about music being good, i comment what i know is right, when other people dont like this they retaliate back and thats fine, i am ready for any points where i have stated something wrong.

[sonnyg121]

but i'm sure you bear a grudge and ill will since you are so tempted to go on all BAPS videos....very funny how you contradict yourself...

[sonnyg121]

how stupid thats because if you didn't notice we live in the same country go to the same mandir and live 2 houses down from each other....grow up......

[sonnyg121]

in BAPS kalyan is not free...we have something called rules....many have a problem with that....BAPS is the only shanstha which makes you work for your kalyan....that is one of the reasons why it is so successful because people realize the fruits of true bakhti and then they tell their friends about satsang....

[sonnyg121]

you seem to make the same type of spelling mistakes as your friend.....i have been noticing that for a while now....hmmmmm...i wonder....

[sonnyg121]

you seem to be making the same spelling mistakes like your friend.....hmmmmmmmmmmm....i wonder if you are actually one.....

[sonnyg121]

he told me that he has converted 15 mumukshus too!!! dont lie..it will not please maharaj.....follow his agana....

[sonnyg121]

by he MITSRULZ meant Bhagwan Swaminarayan....grow up...

[sonnyg121]

BAPS was formed because Bhagwan Swaminarayan wanted it to form...

[sonnyg121]

So you claim to say that Islam is false...come on grow up now....Islam is the fastest growing religion because of forced conversions...BAPS does not convert people to follow them...The Gadis do but not BAPS..only the people who think join BAPS for it is not just following but following after knowing...JSN to all....

[hrpatel]

it is nice

[sonnyg121]

so when you talk ill of pramukh swami maharaj i think you learn it from your guru right.......

[vadmas3]

AHAHAHAHA omg? the real son of dharmavansh is Pramukh swami pahaha. jeez ok, if you are wrong please stop making false statements up, one for one he is not even a sadhu? no deeksha, second WHY HAS SHREEJI MAHRAJ NEVER MENTIONED AKSHAR PURSHOTTAM UPASNA BY HIS OWN MOUTH AND TOLD PEOPLE TO FOLLOW IT? because he established two gadis for the moksha of people. at the end of the day you have strong belief in "BAPS" well you will see one day that what you have done is a mistake. never mind.