I dare any one of you guys trash talkin to train with the Gracies and see what BJJ is all about. Wallid beat Royce, so what. Royce will choke out any one of you that posted trash about him. And thats FACT...
@inkman46 Of course Royce could beat just about anyone here. He has trained sicnne he could walk. I have no doubts of the efectiveness of any of the Gracies. Some student who has trained for 6 months in BJJ makiing similar claims about themselves however.......
@siasti Brawler!?!? Wallid beat Royce, Renzo, Ralph AND Ryan Gracie. All in BJJ tournaments. Wallid is a BJJ black belt under Carlson Gracie, and is an avid defender of BJJ honor.
To those who don't know who Wallid Ismail is, look up his bio in the BJJ heroes site, and you'll see that he's been through more true MMA/No-Holds-Barred fights and wars than Royce ever had throughout their lives.
LOL..whats wit wallid fail hard in mma..so as royce,do not say royce was the champion in early ufc..early ufc was a joke,none of the fighters royce face were true mix martial artists..once royce face true mma fighters..he got his ass beat,wallid also join mma competition in late 90's when fighters started to cross-train in different martial arts..guess what,he did good not great..at least he fights..gracies on other hand are nowhere near mma today..they hide n pick shit competition.
@fmoa I remember watching early UFC fights with some friends. My friends were in awe and thinking that Royce and BJJ were the best thing since ice cream. I was not amazed. As a judoka I knew that stand up fighters were usually toast once they got on the mat. What amazed me were all the stand up fighters trying to go to the mat and win against Royce. Heck Royce suckered them to the ground by falling himself in most cases.
Wallid has always been a bully and big mouth here in Brazil. Where most Brazilians kick ass (mma)!, he was pathetic, mainly for those who used to listen to his bragging.
Rorion, the official Gracie-marketeer... The one in "Gracie in action" who hypes everything, i.e. Kimura did Jiu-Jitsu, was 80 pounds heavier than Helio (lol), ETC...
yeah read Kimura's biography "My Judo" he writes about the match. Google "George Mehdi". Says he trained under both ... interesting comments. Said Kimura was playing with him.
The aim is to put your opponent in a position where he feels he cannot continue. Like a "check mate" in chess. In most cases, if you have a choke or a joint-lock on an opponent, they "tap out" to signify that they admit defeat. In some cases, like this one, people do not want to tap and sometimes they are choked unconcious or have a limb broken. The aim isn't to hurt your opponent in a tournament. In real life, you do what you have to.
Since a submission signifies that you cannot take anymore. If I'm CHOKING someone and they tap, I let go. In a real fight if I held that choke it is death.
@Zttbm You've obviously never been choked by someone who has really tight chokes. My instructor could put me unconscious easily in 20, 30 seconds, if even that.
@Mortido Same brah, my first lesson i was choked unconscious lightening fast, but what i mean is, you have to hold a choke long after someone passes out to kill them
@AK47kilem The tap is no stalemate. it's checkmate like Mortido said.
You are in a choke, you tap for not passing out and because you cannot get out of it by yourself, which would be same as being dead in the street or any life threatening situation.
@Mortido true but royce gracie said that he will not tap it is oddvious that he was in a position to tap on the floor on his back gracie just will not tap.
royce was never a great BJJ master period. he never won the mundials or much of anything. Rickson was never tapped or beaten, ever, in any BJJ match since he turned 18. rickson was mundial champ for over 20yrs
Sakuraba proved it first in MMA...Wallid did this before Saku though. Besides, Wallid was trained by the late GrandMaster Carlson Gracie who is considered to be one of the father's of current day MMA.
IDIOT! Ron Tripp beaten Rickson! Fred Ebert and valdemar santana had beaten Helio! Sudo beaten Royler even Yamamoto won versus Royler! Hughes submitted Royce Still invincible Royce couldn't submit tokoro.Who isn't even a great grappler.And Royce is 35 Lbs heavier than Tokoro... Tokoro beaten Royler too Tamura won vs renzo! etc.....
gee, then why get so excited when a gracie is beaten? u havent trained or fought in ur pathetic lil shit stain life. so run along biatch...on tripp did beat rickson i agree but that was a sambo match
Trash talking menas you either are a faggot or never before sparred in your life to know that no human is a machine, there is always the possibility to screw up, but only for those who have the balls to try it out.
just because wallid put him to sleep dsnt mean that he's better.....every one has there day and that day was royces...thats it....granted on any other occasion wallid would get tapped it a game of chess poeple you make a mistake ur screwed and thats it....
what excuses im not even a royce gracie fan.... i dont worship the gracies like most people do, im not a wallid fan either and i realy dnt care whos better....
i dont understand why some people hate this man?..Royce Gracie is just a fighter like another, just that in his time he got a technic unknown for others... now he is old.. and weak than before... are u hating him just because racism or what??
Geeze give Royce a break. He got his arm broken by Matt Huges but never tapped or yelled or anything. That's some HUGE balls bro. Anybody can lose and everybody does. He'd still kick the crap out of 99.99% of the schmoes leaving comments on Youtube.
Jeesh the Gracies can't win every match, except Rickson, they are only human. Besides they fight guys 40lbs+ more than themselves on purpose. Show me some welterweight and lightheavyweight guys who do this, and then you can laugh at the Gracies.
Enjoy your cat nap Royce? LOL
ae86miami 2 months ago
I dare any one of you guys trash talkin to train with the Gracies and see what BJJ is all about. Wallid beat Royce, so what. Royce will choke out any one of you that posted trash about him. And thats FACT...
inkman46 7 months ago
@inkman46 Of course Royce could beat just about anyone here. He has trained sicnne he could walk. I have no doubts of the efectiveness of any of the Gracies. Some student who has trained for 6 months in BJJ makiing similar claims about themselves however.......
TakgeyonBlackbelt 1 week ago
Royce must believe that a tap out means nothing, because his opponents do it all the time and he just ignores it
knightstrykr 9 months ago
I think that Royce just had a bad day. Looking at their other fight vids, Royce is the superior fighter. Wallid is just a brawler.
siasti 9 months ago
@siasti Brawler!?!? Wallid beat Royce, Renzo, Ralph AND Ryan Gracie. All in BJJ tournaments. Wallid is a BJJ black belt under Carlson Gracie, and is an avid defender of BJJ honor.
To those who don't know who Wallid Ismail is, look up his bio in the BJJ heroes site, and you'll see that he's been through more true MMA/No-Holds-Barred fights and wars than Royce ever had throughout their lives.
sukotsutoclone 5 months ago
Royce is crazy man. He said he would never tap. That dude is crazy. Much respect for both men.
130kali 9 months ago
This match had everyone in BJJ dojos learning clock chokes for 2 years. What they needed to learn was Wallid's setup.
bhkidd 10 months ago
royce not tapping..boohoo..so what,he got his ass beaten..simple as that..royce got beaten.
fmoa 1 year ago 2
LOL..whats wit wallid fail hard in mma..so as royce,do not say royce was the champion in early ufc..early ufc was a joke,none of the fighters royce face were true mix martial artists..once royce face true mma fighters..he got his ass beat,wallid also join mma competition in late 90's when fighters started to cross-train in different martial arts..guess what,he did good not great..at least he fights..gracies on other hand are nowhere near mma today..they hide n pick shit competition.
fmoa 1 year ago
@fmoa Dude, please learn proper grammar
himmargera666 7 months ago
@fmoa I remember watching early UFC fights with some friends. My friends were in awe and thinking that Royce and BJJ were the best thing since ice cream. I was not amazed. As a judoka I knew that stand up fighters were usually toast once they got on the mat. What amazed me were all the stand up fighters trying to go to the mat and win against Royce. Heck Royce suckered them to the ground by falling himself in most cases.
TakgeyonBlackbelt 1 week ago
Wallid has always been a bully and big mouth here in Brazil. Where most Brazilians kick ass (mma)!, he was pathetic, mainly for those who used to listen to his bragging.
72headroom 1 year ago
@Imbalina Wallid is a great fighter. He failed in MMA? I bet you can't do half of he did. Everybody has a mouth, wanna see who has attitude.
SuperPanquecao 1 year ago
That was a beautiful Okuri eri jime by Ismail.
samluke8121 1 year ago
Yeah he'll never tap, he would be admitting
Defeat at has own game
bladesNstuff 1 year ago
I corava koka ubode neko zrno...
Divljina89 1 year ago
Everyone can get caught in this choke. Wallid knew the escape and protect it for 5 secs. That all you need to pass out!
civicturbolive 1 year ago
kkkkkkkkkkkkkko wallid falando eh o melhor kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Corleonetone 2 years ago
The legend of royce gracie defeated.
Portilloizay 2 years ago
roger gracie is never known to tap in any sanctioned match, whether it be mma or jiujitsu.
Donpaeng 2 years ago
JAJAJAJA I LOVE THIS FIGHT JAJAJAJ
mexirudo 2 years ago
wallid is still the best!!!
Alessandro300384 2 years ago 4
Was also his first fight after recovering from a major injury
Aikibujin7 2 years ago
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Royce gracie is still the pound for pound champion in mma history deal with it!
scarce3370 2 years ago
Good fight!!! Le sacaron la mierda a Gracie... jajajaja bien carajo!!! El webon no sabia ni donde estaba...
paolito 2 years ago
was that rickson that congratulated wallid in the end?
mahalolovesyou 3 years ago
Rorion, the official Gracie-marketeer... The one in "Gracie in action" who hypes everything, i.e. Kimura did Jiu-Jitsu, was 80 pounds heavier than Helio (lol), ETC...
jorgemacafura 3 years ago 2
yeah read Kimura's biography "My Judo" he writes about the match. Google "George Mehdi". Says he trained under both ... interesting comments. Said Kimura was playing with him.
shinjukool 2 years ago
I saw it its nice.. A throw could end the fight
redcapKO 2 years ago
no it was rorion
silverbulletpdx 2 years ago
it was relson
gutrupture 2 years ago
relson
gutrupture 2 years ago
good call! It was Relson!
silverbulletpdx 2 years ago
can someone answer please?
is the aim of this game to choke your opponent till he's knocked out?
tuug 3 years ago
No he could have tapped out.
Yabbablabba 3 years ago 2
The aim is to put your opponent in a position where he feels he cannot continue. Like a "check mate" in chess. In most cases, if you have a choke or a joint-lock on an opponent, they "tap out" to signify that they admit defeat. In some cases, like this one, people do not want to tap and sometimes they are choked unconcious or have a limb broken. The aim isn't to hurt your opponent in a tournament. In real life, you do what you have to.
Mortido 2 years ago 9
that would be more like a stale mate a checkmate would be death stale mate hes still alive but cant do anything checkmate dead and cant do anything
AK47kilem 2 years ago
@AK47kilem A stalemate would imply that neither was victorious. Taping signifies that you give up, therefore your opponent won.
Mortido 2 years ago
@mortido it would be more like running out of time on the clock...
AK47kilem 2 years ago
No. If your opponent gives up, you win. It's the same as a checkmate.
Mortido 2 years ago
oh please, since when is death the same thing as what a knockout or a submission
AK47kilem 2 years ago
Since a submission signifies that you cannot take anymore. If I'm CHOKING someone and they tap, I let go. In a real fight if I held that choke it is death.
Mortido 2 years ago
@Mortido You'd have to be holding the choke for about 3 minutes after they pass out...
Zttbm 1 year ago
@Zttbm You've obviously never been choked by someone who has really tight chokes. My instructor could put me unconscious easily in 20, 30 seconds, if even that.
Mortido 1 year ago
@Mortido Same brah, my first lesson i was choked unconscious lightening fast, but what i mean is, you have to hold a choke long after someone passes out to kill them
Zttbm 1 year ago
@Mortido 20 to 30 seconds is way too long to be choked out....
newmedstudent 1 year ago
@AK47kilem The tap is no stalemate. it's checkmate like Mortido said.
You are in a choke, you tap for not passing out and because you cannot get out of it by yourself, which would be same as being dead in the street or any life threatening situation.
laokon 1 year ago 2
@Mortido true but royce gracie said that he will not tap it is oddvious that he was in a position to tap on the floor on his back gracie just will not tap.
coulebra 1 year ago
una de las cosas admirables de royce es que nunca queria rendirse, tuvieron que adivinar el momento en que quedo inconciente para separalos.
ALONZOMOURNING25 3 years ago
admirable? pura pendejada.
judohuevos 3 years ago
royce was never a great BJJ master period. he never won the mundials or much of anything. Rickson was never tapped or beaten, ever, in any BJJ match since he turned 18. rickson was mundial champ for over 20yrs
OsamaBinLadenx 3 years ago
I kick his ass
StanhopeDoug 3 years ago
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applesaucebanaynay 3 years ago
heart heart H
datqua4u 3 years ago
I heard that due to the asphyxiation, Royce defecated his Gi. Thats adds insult to the injury!!!!!!
markanders250 3 years ago
You filthy bastard Royce
notthelastword 2 years ago
how many gracis did Sakuraba own? I can think of at least 3 .He owned Ryan,Royce,and Renzo so the Gracies are far from invincible.
boocher13 3 years ago
Matt Hughes proved that!!!! Next!!!!!
MrBubbles70 3 years ago
Sakuraba proved it first in MMA...Wallid did this before Saku though. Besides, Wallid was trained by the late GrandMaster Carlson Gracie who is considered to be one of the father's of current day MMA.
Fanara1 3 years ago
Rackets1 3 years ago 3
gee, then why get so excited when a gracie is beaten? u havent trained or fought in ur pathetic lil shit stain life. so run along biatch...on tripp did beat rickson i agree but that was a sambo match
OsamaBinLadenx 3 years ago
and royler. ref stoppage. roylers arm/shoulder was about to snap. like usual the gracies moaned the fight shouldnt have been stopped.
gutrupture 2 years ago
Trash talking menas you either are a faggot or never before sparred in your life to know that no human is a machine, there is always the possibility to screw up, but only for those who have the balls to try it out.
elperico5 3 years ago 2
walid is the only one to nail 4 Gracie members so that guy is really good, got it tards?
H61073 3 years ago 2
just because wallid put him to sleep dsnt mean that he's better.....every one has there day and that day was royces...thats it....granted on any other occasion wallid would get tapped it a game of chess poeple you make a mistake ur screwed and thats it....
Tyberious369 4 years ago
Wallid put Gracie to SLEEP, Wallid is better!!!.. stop making excuses hahaha
bluer69 3 years ago 21
what excuses im not even a royce gracie fan.... i dont worship the gracies like most people do, im not a wallid fan either and i realy dnt care whos better....
Tyberious369 3 years ago
@bluer69 who cares about bjj competition? mma is the thing wallid failed hard in mma.
Imbalina 1 year ago
very young unexperienced royce
CristiZ 4 years ago
thats a black belt around his waist
trex0 4 years ago 4
What the hell? Are people so obsessed with the 'Gracie' family that they can't acknowledge someone with equal or more skill.
Newsflash, Rickson, was not 400-0. That is bullshido of the highest order.
writeguy73 3 years ago 2
Gracie was totally humiliated
notthelastword 4 years ago
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gay wrestling match straight out of Brazil.
delmar92130 4 years ago
wow ishmael is no gung fu expert
jackass77780 4 years ago
royce the best
jaimes1978 4 years ago
Garcie got his ass handed over to him.
Hulkster77 4 years ago
damm i give respect to all jiu jitsu fighters but pound 4 pound royler and roleta have the best of there time.
marcelobjj 4 years ago
i dont understand why some people hate this man?..Royce Gracie is just a fighter like another, just that in his time he got a technic unknown for others... now he is old.. and weak than before... are u hating him just because racism or what??
mamoodh 4 years ago
royce is the best the gracies are the best shut the fuxck up
pv111193 4 years ago
Geeze give Royce a break. He got his arm broken by Matt Huges but never tapped or yelled or anything. That's some HUGE balls bro. Anybody can lose and everybody does. He'd still kick the crap out of 99.99% of the schmoes leaving comments on Youtube.
Freedomdave 4 years ago 2
no excuses you dont go into a fight unless prepared,royce i great so is this guy for ground fighting i mean
ljubavniratnik 4 years ago
People laugh like they could do a better job. Bunch of ufc wannabe's with no heart.
atatkfighter 4 years ago
Jeesh the Gracies can't win every match, except Rickson, they are only human. Besides they fight guys 40lbs+ more than themselves on purpose. Show me some welterweight and lightheavyweight guys who do this, and then you can laugh at the Gracies.
MPA2000 4 years ago
HAHAHAHAHA GRACIE LOSEEEEERRRRRRR
1721985 4 years ago
wallid ismail is one of the scariest looking bjj/mma fighters i have ever seen. his eyes, his stare makes him look like a psychopath.
DarthSyphilis 4 years ago
esse royce é bom mesmo ein!?
brgodie 4 years ago
Spectators shouldn't have intervened..let it go to the finish.
notthelastword 4 years ago
hes already out what more do you wish for?
fearlessfighter2006 4 years ago
rofl seriously... guy went completely limp. Pretty sure Gracie woulda let go anyway soon as he noticed.
nagahide13 4 years ago
umm.... Gracie lost. That was Gracie that went limp.
boyoben 4 years ago
"ih vai durmir cara que loucura...durmiuuu..
Invasao de ring pra a cordar o rapaz...
Ih sai carregado e nem sabe onde tá"
chambarelli 5 years ago
I met him he's a very cool and dangerous guy!
kidhurt3 5 years ago
Met who?
notthelastword 5 years ago
Wallid Ismail, fool
vitorshaolin 5 years ago
Could have been Gracie he was talking about.
notthelastword 5 years ago
Why didn't he get into MMA?
notthelastword 4 years ago
he did... he has a 9-3 pro record and is 0-1 in the ufc. he owns the jungle fight promotion in brazil now.
also, for those that don't know wallid is trained under the late carlson gracie.
vanity81 4 years ago