When someone has an entirely new economy scheme for the coal fields, a.k.a. West Virginia. Then I would get serious about the negative effects of mining....Until then, stop hating on miners, and their jobs so much.
@laugher04 Do you need to live in a tent to live without electricity? And is an economy more importnat than an ecosystem? But ya know i don't think WV or Las Vegas are going to change willingly you are right about that. Only when it's too late or disaster hits will things change
@laugher04 Do you need to live in a tent to live without electricity? And is an economy more importnat than an ecosystem? But ya know i don't think WV or Las Vegas are going to change willingly you are right about that. Only when it's too late or disaster hits will things change
i got an idea....SUPPORT COAL OR GET THE F*CK OUT OF AMERICA!!!!! go hug the damn trees in canada...we go under every night bustin our asses tryin to make a living...we don't shit talk your job..leave ours alone
All you people posting comments about "preferring" solar and wind energy, get real. What do you think you are using to be able to get on here and degrade coal mining? Electricity powered by COAL!! And those of you that are against it, have more than likely never worked in or known anyone that has worked in a coal mine. I spend every day of my life not knowing if my childs father will come home. You people have NO IDEA what coal means to us, and to the country.
@lovemyminer no one is disrespecting the fact that your husband risks his life for others people against coal wish that there was a safer form of employment for him and a safer form of energy alternative for coal thats all i seriously doubt that anyone on here wants your family to starve they just want whats best for everyone and sadly coal is not good for the planet or your husband i honor his bravery but if things would be better without coal
Every person who draws breath in america needs to demand that coal miners and all other fossil fuel workers in our country: get better, safer jobs in the green energy sector.
The lively hoods of these people should not be used as an excuse to continue using harmfull, obsolete technology. These workers deserve Unions & Organized Labor Protection and Benefits. The only thing standing in the way of massive green energy development, and tens of thousands of green jobs is our own government.
If you have power, thank a miner. if you get rid of coal. millions will be out of work. Familys will starve. dont get rid of coal, find ways to make it cleaner for the planet
Coal is our life it powers your house, the stores you go to,the factories that make the stuff you buy, the paper that our kids get their education from,cant you people see that AMERICA runs on coal.Lets all get together for one week and shut down every coal producing plant in the usa and not let any outside coal in,when your burning up cause you have no electric and cant cook on your stove no tv no internet no running water.Then i want you to get on here and bash coal..AMERICA RUNS ON COAL!!!!!!
Can't wait to see this. I know it's a dilema, because in some places, there aren't any jobs but coal. The companies don't have to protect workers, jobs, or the environment so they will get it the fastest way which give them the most profit. Age-old story. Unfortunately, the mountain, its people and communities never see a tiny fraction of the profit. When people are gone, they're replaced by another person, or machines. When the mountain is gone, the company goes elsewhere or shuts down.
Let's stop arguing and fighting about it. An eye for an eye makes you both blind. Let's find a way to change. Divide and conquer is how the coal barons keep the people fighting with each other and nothing ever changes. The people of Appalachia have been taken advantage of for far too long.
Don't be fooled by this propaganda. Ask the local Chamber of Commerce, County Court Judges, Tourism offices, local political leaders in the central appalachian area were MTR is being conducted and you will see that they are overwhelming for that type of mining. We the majority of non-coal mining residents are for mountain top development just as most residents around the world are pro development. You can always find people in any community that are against any type land development.
We should learn a couple of things from this, first check your deed to see who owns the mineral rights to you property. and next, how about considering Nuclear energy? or is that nucular?
I use to live down the street from the Coal River... It was the nastiest, greenest water Ive ever seen. Its a shame, because the mountains around it are so beautiful.
You still need raw materials for chemical feedstock for basically everything in modern society. Even if all of our energy came from inexhaustible magical boxes with 480V 3 phase outlets that fell from the sky, we'd still need petrochemical feed stocks, at least until someone figured out and scaled up Thermal Depolymerization and similar technologies.
There's no reason why coal can't be used for the same damn organics, granted we put attention into carbon sequestration.
ok... how can she say " I just want them to go away - so sI can have my home back".. when at the beginning she says that coal was discovered there in 1745?! The coal mining was there LOOOONNGG before she moved there.. I'm not saying I'm for the type on coal mining they are doing there - or not. But.. I hope before people go get up on their soap boxes agains it - they make sure they are not using anything in their daily lives that comes from the usage of coal burning energy sources.
@LapisLee Dumd comment. You'r an idoiot, that is the worst analogy ever. Coal is a way of life for us.Think of that next time you turn on your lights when you get home. Bash it all you want, because i'm sure you don't complain when you turn your light on, or take a hot shower, or even whrn you turn you computer on. So, your welcome for the electricty bub.
@lilchico4wg Yeah, I really need to get used to living in my tent. I'm assuming of course "luxuries" means electricity, and the billions of dollars coal generate that is WVs economy....Gambling isn't too good for people, but I don't see Nevada shutting down Vegas anytime soon.
@CrazyChitTV You think wind turbines and solar panels are ugly, but not mountains with the tops shaved off into the rivers below after the coal has been extracted? Why not just say you need a job and will do anything to keep it, including desecrating God's green Earth?
@CrazyChitTV Let's see a report that shows "millions and millions of dead birds killed by wind turbines" and I've seen plenty of pictures of just how "MUCH prettier" mountains are after the tops have been shaved off into the rivers below and the coal removed. If you think unlimited free energy from solar panels is ugly, then you have no eye for true beauty.
@LapisLee if you didn't know that wind turbines kill birds by the millions then you are not qualified to comment on energy. Try google sometime.
And while you are at it look up just how many solar panels it would take to power the USA... here is a tip... it's a land area larger than Ohio just of solar panels. If solar and wind could compete everyone would be using them instead of just a few rich liberals.
@CrazyChitTV And the Titanic was expected not to sink... try and think about the generations to come and not just right now. What will life be like for thos during that later time? Why hate dirty hippies when you like dirty coal?
@CrazyChitTV And the Titanic was expected not to sink... try and think about the generations to come and not just right now. What will life be like for thos during that later time? Why hate dirty hippies when you like dirty coal?
@lilchico4wg Its not a matter of whether or not it will run out or not... its a matter of what can sustain the current rate at which we consume energy... If you plan on using all your electrically powered devices, you can count on not leaving coal behind... Either that or we can litter every square inch of land with wind turbines, tearing down trees, and spending gazillions more than we would with just using coal. Wind and solar panels are good for science experiments and calculators. Coal FTW..
Judy Bonds, in this trailer, says that she misses her home... Fact is, she shouldn't have sold it to Massey!!! They didn't force her to leave!!!
As for the Elk Run impoundment, it would have to take a hellava turn to submerge the town of Sylvester! It actually would be an impossible turn because of the gravitational pull of the earth. Odds are high, that IF the ER impoundment did bust, the MOUNTAIN that separates it from the town will remain!! Another video against MTR and mining! Pitiful.
The "home" Judy is most likely referring to is an Appalachia that had no destructive mining operations. Not sure what kind of person it takes to not see that MTR is dirty, corrupt, and killing our communities. She really didn't have a choice in the say, pal. She sold her land and history because she knew that hecklers would bring harassment and violence to her home to scare her away...kinda of like what is happening to Larry Gibson...no?
The "home" she is referring to is the one she SOLD TO MASSEY AT HER OWN WILL! She did have a choice and she took the cash! No one "heckled" her into her selling her home! And the hecklers Larry Gibson talks about are in his head! They highwall mined most of the coal under the park. He owns the land, but not the mineral rights!
wow. he owns the land.....but not what is beneath the land....so they can take the land and its history and his attachments to it. and you think that's just and good? and you would be okay if someone came to your home and said...."stuff we want is under your soil....get out" oh..and i guess i must be making these hecklers up also then, seeing as how i've been to his home and had my life threatened? hm. you're a good one, aint ya?
All those for taking thousands of miners' jobs, causing their kids to be hungry, and possibly homeless raise your hands...All those for communities whose bussiness depend on coal miners' hard earned money to survive shutting down, raise your hands. All those for shutting down whole counties, and turning them into ghost towns, because the people have to move out of state to support their families, raise your hands. Uninformed people can cause a great deal of chaos..and they will.
God is for all of these principals. Thats why he didn't bestow upon us an endless amount of coal. Coal will not be around forever. And when its gone the coal companies will leave without looking back and the people will starve. There were something like 100,000 coal jobs in this state 50 years ago. and now there are 12,000 jobs. Oh yeah, MTR operations use less people.... thats right.. Oh, you know what that probably means? LESS JOBS. MASSEY is really watching your back!
autumn olive, Ailanthus (both invasive spp.), virginia pine, dogwood...yeah, that's wonderful reforestation work. But it's the degraded ground and surface water that is the worst problem...that and the lies about it.
coal is good. it gives people lung disease and cancer. it pollutes the air and water. it powers all of those noisy flashy things that we sit in front of to get fat. what's the big damn deal. oh yeah and who cares about great mountain scenery. listening to michael jackson on my ipod is worth permanently damaging the landscape so that some asshole that contributes to political campaigns that don't represent me can get rich. oh yeah and without coal, what would santa give bad kids.
Goldcorp is doing the same open-pit mining here in Mexico. So sad.
r0dpm 6 hours ago
I accidently posted signed onto my friends account. Sorry
lilchico4wg 7 months ago
When someone has an entirely new economy scheme for the coal fields, a.k.a. West Virginia. Then I would get serious about the negative effects of mining....Until then, stop hating on miners, and their jobs so much.
laugher04 7 months ago
@laugher04 Do you need to live in a tent to live without electricity? And is an economy more importnat than an ecosystem? But ya know i don't think WV or Las Vegas are going to change willingly you are right about that. Only when it's too late or disaster hits will things change
kiddgreg313 7 months ago
@laugher04 Do you need to live in a tent to live without electricity? And is an economy more importnat than an ecosystem? But ya know i don't think WV or Las Vegas are going to change willingly you are right about that. Only when it's too late or disaster hits will things change
lilchico4wg 7 months ago
i got an idea....SUPPORT COAL OR GET THE F*CK OUT OF AMERICA!!!!! go hug the damn trees in canada...we go under every night bustin our asses tryin to make a living...we don't shit talk your job..leave ours alone
rkeen216 10 months ago
All you people posting comments about "preferring" solar and wind energy, get real. What do you think you are using to be able to get on here and degrade coal mining? Electricity powered by COAL!! And those of you that are against it, have more than likely never worked in or known anyone that has worked in a coal mine. I spend every day of my life not knowing if my childs father will come home. You people have NO IDEA what coal means to us, and to the country.
lovemyminer 10 months ago 2
@lovemyminer no one is disrespecting the fact that your husband risks his life for others people against coal wish that there was a safer form of employment for him and a safer form of energy alternative for coal thats all i seriously doubt that anyone on here wants your family to starve they just want whats best for everyone and sadly coal is not good for the planet or your husband i honor his bravery but if things would be better without coal
ironman145614 9 months ago
Jesse Johnson should have been elected West Virginia governor.
XM8rifle 1 year ago
Every person who draws breath in america needs to demand that coal miners and all other fossil fuel workers in our country: get better, safer jobs in the green energy sector.
The lively hoods of these people should not be used as an excuse to continue using harmfull, obsolete technology. These workers deserve Unions & Organized Labor Protection and Benefits. The only thing standing in the way of massive green energy development, and tens of thousands of green jobs is our own government.
BadGasGoodWind 1 year ago
If you have power, thank a miner. if you get rid of coal. millions will be out of work. Familys will starve. dont get rid of coal, find ways to make it cleaner for the planet
propelz 1 year ago
Coal is our life it powers your house, the stores you go to,the factories that make the stuff you buy, the paper that our kids get their education from,cant you people see that AMERICA runs on coal.Lets all get together for one week and shut down every coal producing plant in the usa and not let any outside coal in,when your burning up cause you have no electric and cant cook on your stove no tv no internet no running water.Then i want you to get on here and bash coal..AMERICA RUNS ON COAL!!!!!!
countryboy21575 1 year ago
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LapisLee 1 year ago
Can't wait to see this. I know it's a dilema, because in some places, there aren't any jobs but coal. The companies don't have to protect workers, jobs, or the environment so they will get it the fastest way which give them the most profit. Age-old story. Unfortunately, the mountain, its people and communities never see a tiny fraction of the profit. When people are gone, they're replaced by another person, or machines. When the mountain is gone, the company goes elsewhere or shuts down.
unionmaid2 1 year ago
Cool ass movie, clever story. Watch it at Full Movie World . com
JenkinsEmilioyg 1 year ago
Let's stop arguing and fighting about it. An eye for an eye makes you both blind. Let's find a way to change. Divide and conquer is how the coal barons keep the people fighting with each other and nothing ever changes. The people of Appalachia have been taken advantage of for far too long.
tbonebell 1 year ago
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ccallinsky 1 year ago
I watched this film on TV and cried for the most part.
I am displaced Mountaineer that lives in Fort Wayne, Indiana
I get homesick often.
BSmith2277 1 year ago
Don't be fooled by this propaganda. Ask the local Chamber of Commerce, County Court Judges, Tourism offices, local political leaders in the central appalachian area were MTR is being conducted and you will see that they are overwhelming for that type of mining. We the majority of non-coal mining residents are for mountain top development just as most residents around the world are pro development. You can always find people in any community that are against any type land development.
endall12 2 years ago
We should learn a couple of things from this, first check your deed to see who owns the mineral rights to you property. and next, how about considering Nuclear energy? or is that nucular?
robwcook 2 years ago
yeah, but you still need a coal fired plant to run the nuclear plant.
dcfranz88 2 years ago
free screening in Kansas City tonight (11.13.09)
Mo Rage
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kcdrew69 2 years ago
how anyone can support or defend mountain-top removal is beyond me, without solely being for the money.
foolish.
Mo Rage
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kcdrew69 2 years ago 4
"if this breaks ... "
Christinecedar 2 years ago
I use to live down the street from the Coal River... It was the nastiest, greenest water Ive ever seen. Its a shame, because the mountains around it are so beautiful.
dirk0389 2 years ago 3
You still need raw materials for chemical feedstock for basically everything in modern society. Even if all of our energy came from inexhaustible magical boxes with 480V 3 phase outlets that fell from the sky, we'd still need petrochemical feed stocks, at least until someone figured out and scaled up Thermal Depolymerization and similar technologies.
There's no reason why coal can't be used for the same damn organics, granted we put attention into carbon sequestration.
Nihilanthic 2 years ago
Note - I am COMPLETELY FOR our country pursuing clean energy sources - like wind and solar.. and getting away from fossil fuels
taddoo7 2 years ago
ok... how can she say " I just want them to go away - so sI can have my home back".. when at the beginning she says that coal was discovered there in 1745?! The coal mining was there LOOOONNGG before she moved there.. I'm not saying I'm for the type on coal mining they are doing there - or not. But.. I hope before people go get up on their soap boxes agains it - they make sure they are not using anything in their daily lives that comes from the usage of coal burning energy sources.
taddoo7 2 years ago
just because the coal mining was there before she was, does not make it right
dcfranz88 2 years ago
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CrazyChitTV 2 years ago
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LapisLee 1 year ago
@LapisLee Dumd comment. You'r an idoiot, that is the worst analogy ever. Coal is a way of life for us.Think of that next time you turn on your lights when you get home. Bash it all you want, because i'm sure you don't complain when you turn your light on, or take a hot shower, or even whrn you turn you computer on. So, your welcome for the electricty bub.
HensleyUSAF 1 year ago
@HensleyUSAF Thanks for the dirty water and ugly mountains too bub.
I'm interested to see the world get used to life without luxuries the coal provides. Honestly
lilchico4wg 1 year ago
@lilchico4wg Yeah, I really need to get used to living in my tent. I'm assuming of course "luxuries" means electricity, and the billions of dollars coal generate that is WVs economy....Gambling isn't too good for people, but I don't see Nevada shutting down Vegas anytime soon.
laugher04 7 months ago
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CrazyChitTV 1 year ago
@CrazyChitTV I prefer clean energy alternatives like solar, wind and geothermal when they become more widely available.
LapisLee 1 year ago
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CrazyChitTV 1 year ago
@CrazyChitTV You think wind turbines and solar panels are ugly, but not mountains with the tops shaved off into the rivers below after the coal has been extracted? Why not just say you need a job and will do anything to keep it, including desecrating God's green Earth?
LapisLee 1 year ago
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CrazyChitTV 1 year ago
@CrazyChitTV Let's see a report that shows "millions and millions of dead birds killed by wind turbines" and I've seen plenty of pictures of just how "MUCH prettier" mountains are after the tops have been shaved off into the rivers below and the coal removed. If you think unlimited free energy from solar panels is ugly, then you have no eye for true beauty.
LapisLee 1 year ago
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@LapisLee if you didn't know that wind turbines kill birds by the millions then you are not qualified to comment on energy. Try google sometime.
And while you are at it look up just how many solar panels it would take to power the USA... here is a tip... it's a land area larger than Ohio just of solar panels. If solar and wind could compete everyone would be using them instead of just a few rich liberals.
CrazyChitTV 1 year ago
@CrazyChitTV Which resource will you run out of first: Coal or wind? Oil or sun?
lilchico4wg 1 year ago
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CrazyChitTV 1 year ago
@CrazyChitTV Don't know where you get your "stats" from...but I loved it...hahaha "5414"= good stuff.
laugher04 7 months ago
@CrazyChitTV And the Titanic was expected not to sink... try and think about the generations to come and not just right now. What will life be like for thos during that later time? Why hate dirty hippies when you like dirty coal?
kiddgreg313 7 months ago
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@CrazyChitTV And the Titanic was expected not to sink... try and think about the generations to come and not just right now. What will life be like for thos during that later time? Why hate dirty hippies when you like dirty coal?
lilchico4wg 7 months ago
@lilchico4wg Its not a matter of whether or not it will run out or not... its a matter of what can sustain the current rate at which we consume energy... If you plan on using all your electrically powered devices, you can count on not leaving coal behind... Either that or we can litter every square inch of land with wind turbines, tearing down trees, and spending gazillions more than we would with just using coal. Wind and solar panels are good for science experiments and calculators. Coal FTW..
ph7ryan 4 months ago
@LapisLee plus with all the massive immigration every year to the USA the only power cheap enough to supply all the endless new immigrants is coal.
CrazyChitTV 1 year ago
with jobs for all !!!!!!
JakeUpMa 2 years ago
its time for NEW CLEAN ENERGY
JakeUpMa 2 years ago 3
Free screening: East Tennessee State University September 29th, Ball Hall Auditorium 7 p.m.
ecnal30 2 years ago 2
Judy Bonds, in this trailer, says that she misses her home... Fact is, she shouldn't have sold it to Massey!!! They didn't force her to leave!!!
As for the Elk Run impoundment, it would have to take a hellava turn to submerge the town of Sylvester! It actually would be an impossible turn because of the gravitational pull of the earth. Odds are high, that IF the ER impoundment did bust, the MOUNTAIN that separates it from the town will remain!! Another video against MTR and mining! Pitiful.
fuckyamountains 2 years ago
The "home" Judy is most likely referring to is an Appalachia that had no destructive mining operations. Not sure what kind of person it takes to not see that MTR is dirty, corrupt, and killing our communities. She really didn't have a choice in the say, pal. She sold her land and history because she knew that hecklers would bring harassment and violence to her home to scare her away...kinda of like what is happening to Larry Gibson...no?
ecnal30 2 years ago
The "home" she is referring to is the one she SOLD TO MASSEY AT HER OWN WILL! She did have a choice and she took the cash! No one "heckled" her into her selling her home! And the hecklers Larry Gibson talks about are in his head! They highwall mined most of the coal under the park. He owns the land, but not the mineral rights!
fuckyamountains 2 years ago
wow. he owns the land.....but not what is beneath the land....so they can take the land and its history and his attachments to it. and you think that's just and good? and you would be okay if someone came to your home and said...."stuff we want is under your soil....get out" oh..and i guess i must be making these hecklers up also then, seeing as how i've been to his home and had my life threatened? hm. you're a good one, aint ya?
ecnal30 2 years ago
All those for taking thousands of miners' jobs, causing their kids to be hungry, and possibly homeless raise your hands...All those for communities whose bussiness depend on coal miners' hard earned money to survive shutting down, raise your hands. All those for shutting down whole counties, and turning them into ghost towns, because the people have to move out of state to support their families, raise your hands. Uninformed people can cause a great deal of chaos..and they will.
JeffFurrowCountry 2 years ago
God is for all of these principals. Thats why he didn't bestow upon us an endless amount of coal. Coal will not be around forever. And when its gone the coal companies will leave without looking back and the people will starve. There were something like 100,000 coal jobs in this state 50 years ago. and now there are 12,000 jobs. Oh yeah, MTR operations use less people.... thats right.. Oh, you know what that probably means? LESS JOBS. MASSEY is really watching your back!
JakeUpMa 2 years ago
all those for shifting that work and those jobs to clean energy, raise your hands
Mo Rage
The Blog
kcdrew69 2 years ago
Free screening in Akron Ohio on September 12, 2009 at the Akron Civic Theatre.
csb32470 2 years ago 3
Going to see it tonight! Can't wait looks awesome.
AAL 2 years ago 2
autumn olive, Ailanthus (both invasive spp.), virginia pine, dogwood...yeah, that's wonderful reforestation work. But it's the degraded ground and surface water that is the worst problem...that and the lies about it.
wvangler 2 years ago 9
coal is good. it gives people lung disease and cancer. it pollutes the air and water. it powers all of those noisy flashy things that we sit in front of to get fat. what's the big damn deal. oh yeah and who cares about great mountain scenery. listening to michael jackson on my ipod is worth permanently damaging the landscape so that some asshole that contributes to political campaigns that don't represent me can get rich. oh yeah and without coal, what would santa give bad kids.
earthborg 2 years ago 15
Many more people need to be aware of the environmental problems surrounding coal.
1salam1 2 years ago 2