NEI FAKELI-MAKEDONSKOTO PRASANJE TV SKAJ 11-03-08

[superdjole11]

the hooker i fuck is from skopije! maybe she is your mother!

MACEDONIA ALWAYS GREECE ;)

[balkanboiiTv]

you all greeks dogs.... their is nothing... but a motherfucking mixed race

makedonija za zekogas

[PAVLOS300GR]

makedonia is greece.you fucking idiots are slavs not makedonians we are makedonians and we are greeks

[VaZoLjIN]

Vakvi glumci ni Amerika nema cudo od luge

[erotavkit]

Well done!!!...Mizotakis..Milosevic­...talking about spliting part of Europe in the 20-th century????...Well done...well we knoe how Milosevic ended up...when will Mizotakis????...this is clasic NAZI and FASCHIST dealing and splitting teritories!

[xopla]

dude didnt you understand that mitsotakis did not agree with milosevic?

[FanatikosKafetzis]

Are you a douche or televizijasonce translates falsely??? Mitsotskis CLEARLY says he did not want to participate in Milosevic's plans! By the way, what happened to the Skopian who attacked Samaras in youtube?

televizijasonce, I hope you do not lie, it is the best for everyone...

[dragomilo]

Dreaming..dreaming....Milosevi­c the best friend of Mitzotakis and Greece...Congratulations....gr­eetings from Rep. of Macedonia...We will be friends, I hoppe

[krumea]

Quotes from historians

"The fight was further embittered by the old racial rivalry of Greek and Macedonian" - Arrian

"Macedonian and Greek were mutually unintelligible in the court of Alexander the Great" R.A.Crossland

"The dislike was reciprocal, for the Macedonians have grown into a proud masterful nation, which with highly developed national consciousness looked down upon the Hellenes with contempt. This fact too is of prime importance for the understanding of later history." Wilcken

[charmolipi]

the most prominent links to wilken are those by the slavs , he expresses the minority of the scientific world as shown by the letter to the usa congress by 332 historians that verify the greek point of view. his point of view is mostly linguistic , he debates if the 5-10% of difference in the ancient-macedonian dialect is enough to call it a different language than greek or not.

[SuperGoce]

Is he grying? Poor guy, I feel sorry for him

[FanatikosKafetzis]

He belons to a nation. We LOVE Macedonia and its Greek heritage. What are you?

[lm240specz]

Get off the drugs & stop listening to ur commi grandfathers & ur own brainwashing propganda u god damn commi. And who are you calling asswipe you genetic throw back !!!

[lm240specz]

Besides all this DNA, the meaning of ethnicity is belonging to a group that shares the same characteristics, such as country of origin, language, religion, ancestry and culture. Ethnicity is a matter of biological and historical fact. Therefore Macedonians are Greek. It's that simple. U Yugoslavs on the other hand share the same language, religion, ancestry and culture as Bulgarians.

[UberMaKedoN]

haha you wish haha

tell me what is proto bulgarian dna? is it slavic? is it mongol. by igenea bulgarians are tracians and you got a bigger percent of slavs in your dna than we Macedonians do. stop your fashist fantazy and myths and wake up in the real world Mengele.

[dragomilo]

Milosevis- Micotakis....big friends...bravo..both are fascists...neighbours accross Macedonia....stupid

[aladinmk]

They don't leave their houses, were outcasted by monarchofascists.

[hotdog351]

im just saying you guys are considered the southern slavs and the ancient macedonians were a greek tribe now along the way the two cultures mixed anyway a thousand years ago or even 100 years ago no one gave a shit about who were the macedonians andwho were the greeks they just gave a shit about thier own towns and asses blame nationalism for all this shit

[lm240specz]

"Wealth of evidence". Where?????????? Where is the link to antiquity for starters?? There isn't any because its aginst Fyrom's law to dig for ancient artifacts. Secondly, what about DNA?? where's that proof?? Article 16 of your governments law prohibits the scientific research on the area of historical & cultural identity of your people.

You try & prove it with quotes that are read out of context... please, give me a break!

Prove it with antiquity & DNA then talk to me.

[UberMaKedoN]

No you stupid ignorant, DNA research is made in neutral countries you freakin nazi, its not a goverment policy of Republic of Macedonia.

or simly said the motherfuckin proof is writen on the faces of the greek "macedonias" that were brought after the civil war in 1946-48 from turkey

all with dark faces

sadly and pathetic for you

but its not your fault maybe

you were taught fashizoid

[lm240specz]

Wether DNA is done in neutral countries or not isn't the point. Your govt's policy is that it's law prohibits the scientific research on the area of historical & cultural identity of your people & that's a fact. Even if it was allowed, what ancient Macedonian DNA sample was used to compare it to ur people??? If u cant answer this question or u choose not to answer it, either way, that makes u the IGNORANT ONE !!!

[UberMaKedoN]

law prohibits the scientific research on the area of historical & cultural identity? wtf man

that was in the socialist era in yugoslavia, when everybody was a south slav even the bosnians and albanians on kosovo. The national anthem of yugoslavia began with "hey slavs" . Comunists beat the crap out of the brother of my grandfather just because he said that he is not slav. That was propaganda from great russia at the beggining and then later Tito used. btw bosnians are 40% ilyrian by the dna rs.

[UberMaKedoN]

They've taken blood samples from few peoples from every nation on the balcan. They compared each one.

Go read some analysist

btw slavs are described as a tall blond man that was not different much from each one described by Justinian I byzantine emperor

[lm240specz]

If these Balkan DNA samples are true & correct, don't u see ur uncanny resemblance to the Serbian DNA. Anyway, ur people claim to have the same DNA as ancient Macedonians. I ask again... what ancient Macedonian DNA sample was used to compare it to ur people???

[UberMaKedoN]

what resemblance?

HLA alleles have been determined in individuals from the Republic

of Macedonia by DNA typing and sequencing. HLA-A, -B, -DR, -DQ

allele frequencies and extended haplotypes have been for the first time

determined and the results compared to those of other Mediterraneans, particularly

with their neighbouring Greeks. Genetic distances, neighbor-joining

dendrograms and correspondence analysis have been performed. The

following conclusions have been reached:

[lm240specz]

Go to the iGENEA site & compare the results of ur people to Serbian & u will see that they are almost the same, does that make serbs macedonian as well? or does that make u serbs?

[UberMaKedoN]

1) Macedonians belong to the

older Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North

Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians

and Iranians, 2) Macedonians are not related with geographically

close Greeks, who do not belong to the older Mediterranenan substratum,

[UberMaKedoN]

who said that "we claim"? Simple we are.

We never stoped calling us Macedonians.

only you greeks stopped after you saw our break out from yugoslavia.

You called us Macedonians and the name Macedonia was not the problem 31 year ago, even in you geography books you recognised us as a MACEDONIA

watch this is your geography book

/watch?v=tfhi3tnIs0o

[lm240specz]

Ur people claim it by posting at least 5 or 6 videos on the matter... that macedonian DNA is the same as ancients.

[lm240specz]

These geography books don't show that they recognise a seperate country Macedonia u fool, they show that it's part of a region of the whole of the Macedonian region. Macedonia streched north of the Greek boarder to lake Ohrid & eastward across to Strumitsa.

[UberMaKedoN]

Why then Macedonia region in greece isnt writen huh? fool

that word was prohibited until 1990 you freakin ignorant asswipe

there are a tons of documents that you greeks refer to Aegean Macedonia as Newly Ocupied Territory and not you act like nothing has happened

[UberMaKedoN]

btw my grand father in balcan wars killed 5 bulgarians in solun front.

[PifchoBG]

HAHAHHAh ahahahah ti si nenormalen be. Stop lieing

[MichaelPaleos]

Yeah because you were no country. Your name Macedonia was simply internal part of Yugoslavia.

[MAKGIRL333]

The wealth of evidence supporting the fact that ancient Macedonians were a separate ethnos from the Greeks is overwhelming. Eumenes and Callisthenes, being foreigners, foreign born individuals - Greeks, did not stand a chance among the Macedonians. At the end, their Greek ethnicity cost them their lives.]

[20] [Alexander speaks to his Macedonians] "Where is that shout of yours that shows your enthusiasm? Where that characteristic look of my Macedonians?"

[MAKGIRL333]

"Men! If you consider the scale of our achievements, your longing for peace and your weariness of brilliant campaigns are not at all surprising. Let me pass over the Illyrians, the Triballians, Boeotia, Thrace, Sparta, the Aecheans, the Peloponnese - all of them subdued under my direct leadership or by campaigns conducted under my orders of instructions."

The Greeks of Boeotia, Sparta, Aechea, Peloponnese - "all of them subdued"; Alexander himself cleraly considers Greece subdued, not united

[MAKGIRL333]

"As it happened, Alexander had been sent from Macedonia a present of Macedonian clothes and a large quantity of purple material." [p.97] [Macedonian clothes, and purple material. (Macedonian customs 2) Macedonians dressed differently than the Greeks. One very peculiar feature being the kautsia, the well known Macedonian hat.]

[MAKGIRL333]

["Athenian" Chares with 2,000 of Persian soldiers fighting against Alexanders Macedonians. Another example of Greeks fighting against Macedonia. If this was a war to revenge Greece from Persia, Greeks would have not have fighting on the side of the Persians against the Macedonians. The truth is that they hated the Macedonians more for conquering Greece, then they did the Persians.]

[blazingmaco]

Don't be a Jackass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think about what your reply? An Invasion doesn't change a persons ethnicity (heritage), If it did? we would still be calling ourselves eg; Romans,Byzantiums,Slavs etc.

[blazingmaco]

Don't be a Jackass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think about what your reply? An Invasion doesn't change a persons ethnicity (heritage), If it did? we would still be calling ourselves eg; Romans,Byzantiums,Slavs etc.

[blazingmaco]

I'm so sick of these dumb ass Greks, Bulgars, Srbs. If they hate each other so much why don't they just kill themselves and leave the ancient Macedonia and its Macedonians alone.

Macedonia za Makedoncite

[hotdog351]

what language did the ancient macedonians speek ? and why did alexander the great spread hellenic culture all the way to india ? i guess he hated greeks,

[blazingmaco]

1/ They spoke Macedonian of course, koine was international not specific to hellenic (like english)

2/ Alexander of Macedon didn't spread hellenic culture, this was already used throughout asia and africa. these Hellens (refuges from asia & Africa) found refuge on those rocky isles and became seafaring people, trading with their Asian and african cousins, stealing their culture and practising it. Macedonia was a Kingdom similar Persia. Hellas was independant states and forced into a leauge,OK!

[hotdog351]

yea ok the greeks stole their culture from africa. your country is a slavic bulgarian albanian speaking nation that has nothing to do with any ancient greek or civilization roman becouse you guys migrated from russia in the byzantine days the only thing you have in common is that you live near macedonia hell the byzantines brought you guys the alphabet

[MAKGIRL333]

"Philip now crossed the Strymon, on the left bank of which lay

Pangaeus, a range of mountains abounding in gold-mines. He

conquered the district, and founded there a new town called

Philippi, on the site of the ancient Thracian town of Crenides.

By improved methods of working the mines he made them yield an

annual revenue of 1000 talents, nearly 250,000l."

"The battle of Chaeronea crushed the liberties of Greece, and made

it in reality a province of the Macedonian monarchy."

[NuKeGr]

Now you fear punishment and beg for your lives, so I will let you free, if not for any other reason so that you can see the difference between a Greek king and a barbarian tyrant, so do not expect to suffer any harm from me. A king does not kill messengers.Alexander's Letter to Darius

As quoted in the Historia Alexandri 1.37.9-13

[NuKeGr]

Strabo:

"And Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece."

(Strab. VII, Frg. 9 [Loeb, H.L. Jones])

[NuKeGr]

and Alexander, demonstrated the strength of his contempt for the barbarians by celebrating games in honour of Aesclepius and Athena.

(Curtius Rufus 3, 7, 3)

[audy8000]

makedonski refair in their messages to alexander the great as "alexandar makedonski" , do you now any nation that calls its heroes with their nationality atached???? for the french is "napoleon the great" not napoleon the french , the reason they refair to him like that is for the simple fact that he always belonged to a diferend nation and culture than theirs , alexander was not a member of a slavic population like them ,he was a greek and he is known everywere as alexander the great

[darkodarius]

Cry Gayreek pussy...:D Everyone GAYreek who think MACEDONIA is Greek, can suck my dick

[vodenec]

xaxaxa poustis Neoellinas

[dovlezik]

ne zaminaa, tuku gi proteraa. tuka ima razlika

[MAGLOUSSIDIS]

Theonoa to kako einai oti h ekpompi einai elliniki !!!! ti na kanoume  na ton skotosoume??? makari na ginotan!!!

[APMUMBP]

This is all well known to everyone. The greeks did not agree with milosevic because they knew the turks would come in and backdoor them. Funny how before 1988 Macedonia was not greek, it was northern greece.

[Theonoa]

what was ? northen greece? you now show how brainwashed you are

[xlemetzas]

This is a lie! Macedonia was a Greek region OFFICIALLY since 1913! It has always been Greek unofficially, thousands of years before you Slavs even existed.

[MAGLOUSSIDIS]

APISTEFTA VLAKAS I MITSOTAKIS!!!!! Tetoies malakies leei kai giauto peiran aera h malakes oi SKOPIANOI!!!!!!!!!!!

[Theonoa]

afou ta leei kai sunexizei akoma na min to voulwnei ftaine oi skopianoi meta pou ftiaxnoun tetoia video?

[egeecc]

televizijasonce od mene 5***** za videoto i prevodot.

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