You can lead an atheist to evidence, but you can't make him think. The problem with atheists is that they don't want the evidence of God, they already reject him in their hearts, which means that even if the evidence is revealed they'd still reject it, because it didn't come how they wanted it to come. And another thing, he quoted a verse from the bible about God being jealous, and obviously, he just revealed his ignorance biblical terminology and contextual meaning. "Thou shalt not bow to idols
What it means when it reads, God is a jealous God simply means that "Thou shalt not worship other gods or idols," "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one, and thou shalt have no other Gods before me.
@songwriter4artists What evidence? The available evidence (literature history, cultures, biology, ...) disproves you. Your claim that atheists don't think is the most hilarious I've seen, it just shows how little you know of a group. It is someone like you who doesn't look at the evidence that speaks against your beliefs. The bible can be a generic instrument open for many interpretations, some pointing towards a really gracious god, and some to a dictator. What makes your interpretation law?
ray comfort couldn't find his own ass with both hands, an anatomy chart, and directions. that's because he'd have to pull his head out of there first and wipe the shit out of his eyes.
Gotta love how Comfort coninues to ask us heathens whether we lie and steal. The AIG Busted blog discovered that Comfort plagairsed parts of the biography of Darwin he had in his intro. Eugene Scott also caught that early copies of Ray Comfort's versions of OoS excluded the chapters where Darwin gave the strongest evidence for his theory. For a person who constantly harps about judgement, he doesn't seem to give a crap about his own eternal condition.
@dustydirt Theory is the highest level of understanding. Theories explain facts. You clearly don't understand the definition of a scientifc theory. It doesn't mean a hunch or a guess like it's used in casual converstation. If there was no evidence evoloution would be a hypothesis. So of course it will always be a theory.
THEORY: a supposition (i.e. ASSUMPTION) or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
FACT: a thing that is indisputably the case.
FOOLISH: lacking good sense or judgement; silly or unwise.
@dustydirt not really frog. you see the amfibians of that time where more like huge salamanders. those salamanders had adaptitions that alowed them avoid drying out, one of them was hardy scales witch protected their skin. other was that they culd lay eggs on land. hard shell on their eggs. then these reptiles evolved sails to catch suns reays to control their bodyheat, these where creatures like dimendrodon, they allso are called. mammal like reptiles bechose mammals evolved from them.
@dustydirt lot of them salamanders are called fire lizards. thats bechose they are cousins of those amfibians that evolved in to reptiles. allso, i dont have to serve anybody. if there are devils or gods, then i kill them. humanity is nobadys servant. we are free men.
Believe it or not, I know a girl who jumped out of a plane and her parachutes failed to open properly. She got away with a couple of broken ribs and a broken nose! She's the one christian I know who I don't blame for believing in a god.
if she thinks god saved her, she should thank god for killing all others, because he has the ability, but picks and chooses. that just makes god an asshole.
I love how Comfort et al describe belief as a choice, when *they* don't believe that themselves. They don't believe they have the choice to stop believing or change their beliefs, and they don't believe you and I have any choice except to share their beliefs or suffer eternal torment.
Meh, I'd punch Ray Cuntfort in the face, take the Mona Lisa, take the parachute, and leave that retard to parish in the closest reality of hell he deserves, the planes fireball when it hits the ground. Fuck his ultimatums.
Just one minor flaw I noticed regarding quantum field theory. We do not know if we can attribute it to a-causality or a causal hidden variable as of yet. We only know that it is non-local.
The "nothing can come from nothing"-argument repeated ad nauseam has not been proven.
There actually is a theory that the universe is a vacuum fluctuation with the total energy of zero. This theory was discussed some 20 years ago but I beleive it is ruled out now but, and this is important, NOT because some silly "nothing can come from nothing" or "everything must have a cause" argument.
Well, if I were in a plane that was due to crash. I'd tie Ray to the million dollars so he'd plummet even faster. Then I'd land safely with my parachute, grab the money and leave Ray for the wolves. They're God's creatures and need food too.
You might be right. That comment about panspermia "creating the Universe" CERTAINLY qualifies as stupid and ignorant. But this man has staff and proof readers and presumably consults some more knowledgeable liars than he to help him lie. Yet that STUNNER got through to the published book. It's a huge mistake. Almost TOO huge. A wiki article could tell you what panspermia is.
Smells odd.
Could it be possible he ACTS stupid to stop aggression? Obvious fools are safer than obvious liars.
Well, if the trend of "not checking out anything that any other creationist says, but rather just repeating it blindly" that I've noticed in other creationists applies to Ray Comfort's own staff, I sincerely doubt that his proof-readers do anything more than check for spelling errors.
My bible already has an intro that is just as stupid as anything Comfort can come up with for On The Origin Of Species. It starts, "In the beginning....."
I suppose one of the fundamental differences between religious people and atheists is the questions they ask. Religious people ask "Why?", while athesist ask "How?"
Even though Ray's always asking "How did the universe begin?" He's really looking for the answer to the question "Why did the universe begin?"
We may never know why, but we have a pretty good idea how, and that pisses off fundies. They can't ask scientists the right questions.
Actually, I couldn't think of a better analogy for religion than the parachute one.
Considering the track record of religions in general when it comes to honesty, who's to say that the parachute you were given even works? Knowing Ray Comfort, it could be filled with dirty laundry for all you know. I'd rather take my chances staying on the plane.
For those who do take the parachute, you've just let Ray walk off with all the other gifts after the plane lands safely. Think about that.
Ray Comfort's god seems to have a serious case of agoraphobia. Why would a perfect, omnipotent god be so painfully SHY?
Why would god reward conviction without substantiation (faith), and send everyone else to eternal punishment, particularly those that ponder their rational doubts?
A benevolent god wouldn't do that, and that's all the logic anyone should need to see that religion's terminal weakness --it's undetectable god-- can't be ignored by anyone with integrity.
Someone write an intro to the Bible, mentioning that primates, including humans cannot make vitamin c. I'd so it, but I suck as a writer and am not a scientist.
You can lead an atheist to evidence, but you can't make him think. The problem with atheists is that they don't want the evidence of God, they already reject him in their hearts, which means that even if the evidence is revealed they'd still reject it, because it didn't come how they wanted it to come. And another thing, he quoted a verse from the bible about God being jealous, and obviously, he just revealed his ignorance biblical terminology and contextual meaning. "Thou shalt not bow to idols
songwriter4artists 1 year ago
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What it means when it reads, God is a jealous God simply means that "Thou shalt not worship other gods or idols," "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one, and thou shalt have no other Gods before me.
songwriter4artists 1 year ago
@songwriter4artists What evidence? The available evidence (literature history, cultures, biology, ...) disproves you. Your claim that atheists don't think is the most hilarious I've seen, it just shows how little you know of a group. It is someone like you who doesn't look at the evidence that speaks against your beliefs. The bible can be a generic instrument open for many interpretations, some pointing towards a really gracious god, and some to a dictator. What makes your interpretation law?
avdmeers 7 months ago
ray comfort couldn't find his own ass with both hands, an anatomy chart, and directions. that's because he'd have to pull his head out of there first and wipe the shit out of his eyes.
brownbigb 1 year ago
Gotta love how Comfort coninues to ask us heathens whether we lie and steal. The AIG Busted blog discovered that Comfort plagairsed parts of the biography of Darwin he had in his intro. Eugene Scott also caught that early copies of Ray Comfort's versions of OoS excluded the chapters where Darwin gave the strongest evidence for his theory. For a person who constantly harps about judgement, he doesn't seem to give a crap about his own eternal condition.
GuineaPigDan 1 year ago
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frog + kiss = prince (fairytale)
frog + millions of years = prince (science)
now that's ridiculous.
you can't prove God does not exist, therefore you must believe.
evolution = religion.
you're gonna serve somebody. it might be the devil, it might be the Lord... but you're gonna have to serve somebody ~bob dylan
dustydirt 2 years ago
god + dirt = human?
qdragon1337 2 years ago 2
idiot. you can't prove that you didn't commit murder, therefore we must believe you are a murderer.
brownbigb 1 year ago
@dustydirt
"frog + millions of years = prince (science)"
Why?
"you can't prove God does not exist, therefore you must believe.
evolution = religion."
The existence of god has nothing to do with evolution . And the burden is on you to prove that god exists.
bdobbsthepipe 1 year ago
@bdobbsthepipe
you can't prove evolution either... FACT!!!
at least i don't try to hide the fact that i have a religion.
as for evolution... since you cannot provide irrefutable evidence,
you have to admit, evolution falls into the same category... RELIGION!!!
NOT science.
dustydirt 1 year ago
@dustydirt
"you can't prove evolution either... FACT!!!"
Already done it ! FACT!!!!
All evidence in biology supports Evolution FACT!
bdobbsthepipe 1 year ago
@bdobbsthepipe
how on earth has evolution been proven???
if it has, why is it still a theory??? duh! it will always be a theory. FFAACCTT!!!!!!!!
you say... "all evidence"??? that is a total farce statement.
what you're really saying is that nothing came from nothing. how foolish is that?
only an intellectual God hating science majoring buffoon can come to that conclusion. thank God not all.
do me a favor, watch this video here on youtube.
watch?v=Rd-2Tyw-eF4
peace bro.
dustydirt 1 year ago
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@dustydirt
"how on earth has evolution been proven???
if it has, why is it still a theory???"
Gosh if they've proven atoms exist, why is the body of knowledge describing them called "atomic theory" ?
"what you're really saying is that nothing came from nothing. how foolish is that?"
Evolution has nothing to do with origin of everything. Only the development of already existing living things.
"only an intellectual God hating science majoring buffoon can come to that conclusion. "
Moron!
bdobbsthepipe 1 year ago
@dustydirt Theory is the highest level of understanding. Theories explain facts. You clearly don't understand the definition of a scientifc theory. It doesn't mean a hunch or a guess like it's used in casual converstation. If there was no evidence evoloution would be a hypothesis. So of course it will always be a theory.
thefusilier1000 1 year ago
@thefusilier1000
oxford english dictionary (11th edition)...
THEORY: a supposition (i.e. ASSUMPTION) or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
FACT: a thing that is indisputably the case.
FOOLISH: lacking good sense or judgement; silly or unwise.
EVOLUTION THEORY: foolish!
dustydirt 1 year ago
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thefusilier1000 1 year ago
@dustydirt Wrong definition. "Scientific Theory" is what you need to quote. Start here.... /wiki/Scientific_theory
It is NOT an assumption. You are quoting the definition of "theory" that is used in common speech. Not the scientific usage.
thefusilier1000 1 year ago
@dustydirt not really frog. you see the amfibians of that time where more like huge salamanders. those salamanders had adaptitions that alowed them avoid drying out, one of them was hardy scales witch protected their skin. other was that they culd lay eggs on land. hard shell on their eggs. then these reptiles evolved sails to catch suns reays to control their bodyheat, these where creatures like dimendrodon, they allso are called. mammal like reptiles bechose mammals evolved from them.
gethsoftware 3 months ago
@dustydirt lot of them salamanders are called fire lizards. thats bechose they are cousins of those amfibians that evolved in to reptiles. allso, i dont have to serve anybody. if there are devils or gods, then i kill them. humanity is nobadys servant. we are free men.
gethsoftware 3 months ago
@gethsoftware
how can a blind man be free? Only Jesus Christ can set you free.
ONLY!!!
im down right fed up with the naturalist rhetoric.
why dont you open an old folks home services only swamp monkeys.
afterall, there just as sacred as humans... right?
dustydirt 3 months ago
Believe it or not, I know a girl who jumped out of a plane and her parachutes failed to open properly. She got away with a couple of broken ribs and a broken nose! She's the one christian I know who I don't blame for believing in a god.
tomwash1 2 years ago
if she thinks god saved her, she should thank god for killing all others, because he has the ability, but picks and chooses. that just makes god an asshole.
brownbigb 1 year ago
About the parachute analogy....
I would ask Ray if there was a safe spot to land, and if I had to jump out of the parachute.
Then I would ask if he would be jumping out and landing safely in the exact same place I would.
If he said yes, I'd gladly take those car keys.
FF8winner 2 years ago
lol. of course you saw in the movie 2012, that you can jump out of a plane with a car and live :)
brownbigb 1 year ago
It's a false tetrachodomy!
Muchodelcrazy 2 years ago
my older brother is part of Comforts "ministery" and actually bought is redundant christiain creationist fear mongering
olli19800 2 years ago
Comfort is the Giotto of reason. He is fail, through and through.
nishbrown 2 years ago
Y'know what I'd do? I'd take the money and sew that into a parachute.
laurariddle292 2 years ago
you need to read more dude - like 'the Akashic field and the theory of everything'
dudehorner 2 years ago
Agg! The religious bigotry!
I like the "Failnalogy" term. I'll remember that one.
JRChadwick 2 years ago
Someone should kill comfort.
TheFlST 2 years ago
Sadly, he would only be stronger in death...these fundies are stimulated by martyrs.
JBSauce 2 years ago 2
I love how Comfort et al describe belief as a choice, when *they* don't believe that themselves. They don't believe they have the choice to stop believing or change their beliefs, and they don't believe you and I have any choice except to share their beliefs or suffer eternal torment.
Bullshitters must first BS themselves.
1Weemaryanne 2 years ago 4
hahah wow ray comfort
bangonya 2 years ago
Meh, I'd punch Ray Cuntfort in the face, take the Mona Lisa, take the parachute, and leave that retard to parish in the closest reality of hell he deserves, the planes fireball when it hits the ground. Fuck his ultimatums.
FallenAngel0fDoom 2 years ago 5
ur welcome QG! allway's a pleasure!
DonatiAlfaYed 2 years ago
Excellent debunking. :)
Just one minor flaw I noticed regarding quantum field theory. We do not know if we can attribute it to a-causality or a causal hidden variable as of yet. We only know that it is non-local.
Thanks,
Trick
trick0171 2 years ago
couldn't i take the money and buy a cheap parachute, or else buy the plane and land it?
fyphfoko 2 years ago
yea exaxtly. or push the uy out of the plane who is so sure we have to jump
conrad4ever 2 years ago
Yeeaahhh... lets go with that... XD awesome man.
Waxxumus 2 years ago
The "nothing can come from nothing"-argument repeated ad nauseam has not been proven.
There actually is a theory that the universe is a vacuum fluctuation with the total energy of zero. This theory was discussed some 20 years ago but I beleive it is ruled out now but, and this is important, NOT because some silly "nothing can come from nothing" or "everything must have a cause" argument.
FredricF 2 years ago
Ray Comfort can go sick his intro and his banana up fundie ass. Nice video Qdragon 5 stars for you Mr.Big Balls.
REBMike1 2 years ago
Well, if I were in a plane that was due to crash. I'd tie Ray to the million dollars so he'd plummet even faster. Then I'd land safely with my parachute, grab the money and leave Ray for the wolves. They're God's creatures and need food too.
ndvuncle 2 years ago 9
lmfao. Oh that made me crack up laughing, the million dollars part anyway.
mecher3k 2 years ago
Weighing him down would only make him drop faster under cartoon physics. Should work, considering the fantasy land Ray lives in.
DooMDrat 2 years ago
I'm wondering what any of this lengthy writing about religion and all of the crappy analogies have anything at all to do with evolution.
I haven't read past the first few pages after the short biography on Darwin, but I can only imagine that Ray has attempted the following tactic:
1) Convince reader that Christianity is correct and by extension, the Bible is true.
2) Point out the fact that the Creation story in the Bible is different than what science indicates and therefore must be true.
Vinifera7 2 years ago
I'm trying to think of someone I respect LESS than Ray Comfort.
I mean I'm REALLY trying...
philhellenes 2 years ago 8
@philhellenes
Ray Comfort is primarily stupid and ignorant, and only secondarily dishonest. Carl Baugh is a million times worse.
Bueller007 2 years ago
You might be right. That comment about panspermia "creating the Universe" CERTAINLY qualifies as stupid and ignorant. But this man has staff and proof readers and presumably consults some more knowledgeable liars than he to help him lie. Yet that STUNNER got through to the published book. It's a huge mistake. Almost TOO huge. A wiki article could tell you what panspermia is.
Smells odd.
Could it be possible he ACTS stupid to stop aggression? Obvious fools are safer than obvious liars.
philhellenes 2 years ago
Well, if the trend of "not checking out anything that any other creationist says, but rather just repeating it blindly" that I've noticed in other creationists applies to Ray Comfort's own staff, I sincerely doubt that his proof-readers do anything more than check for spelling errors.
Bueller007 2 years ago
Kent Hovind?
OktoberSunset 2 years ago
Yeah I know right? What a piece of shit.
seanThree16 2 years ago
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ChozoBoy 2 years ago
Using the bible to prove the bible? Again?
grits011 2 years ago
"perfectly circular" i love the way you said that :D
creativeinsult 2 years ago 3
My bible already has an intro that is just as stupid as anything Comfort can come up with for On The Origin Of Species. It starts, "In the beginning....."
ivorbueb 2 years ago 2
I suppose one of the fundamental differences between religious people and atheists is the questions they ask. Religious people ask "Why?", while athesist ask "How?"
Even though Ray's always asking "How did the universe begin?" He's really looking for the answer to the question "Why did the universe begin?"
We may never know why, but we have a pretty good idea how, and that pisses off fundies. They can't ask scientists the right questions.
Why ask why, when how is so much more fun?
TheOmniNerd 2 years ago
Actually, I couldn't think of a better analogy for religion than the parachute one.
Considering the track record of religions in general when it comes to honesty, who's to say that the parachute you were given even works? Knowing Ray Comfort, it could be filled with dirty laundry for all you know. I'd rather take my chances staying on the plane.
For those who do take the parachute, you've just let Ray walk off with all the other gifts after the plane lands safely. Think about that.
TheOmniNerd 2 years ago
Ray Comfort's god seems to have a serious case of agoraphobia. Why would a perfect, omnipotent god be so painfully SHY?
Why would god reward conviction without substantiation (faith), and send everyone else to eternal punishment, particularly those that ponder their rational doubts?
A benevolent god wouldn't do that, and that's all the logic anyone should need to see that religion's terminal weakness --it's undetectable god-- can't be ignored by anyone with integrity.
venomfangEND 2 years ago
Someone write an intro to the Bible, mentioning that primates, including humans cannot make vitamin c. I'd so it, but I suck as a writer and am not a scientist.
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
that damn ray COMORT!
1451tyler 2 years ago
what typo.... :P
qdragon1337 2 years ago
5* :)
Quionic7 2 years ago
FIrsties! I would get the million and send a runner to buy me a parachute! HAHAHA
truvelocity 2 years ago
*snork* Not only are you not first, not only is declaring first severely lame, but I already SAID I'd take the million and buy a parachute.
Way to triple-fail! *strut* ;)
BionicDance 2 years ago
I'd take the million bucks, BUY a parachute, THEN jump out of the plane. ;)
BionicDance 2 years ago 3
lol...that only works if there's a parachute store in the plane that you're already in.....I'm guessing
LilithMaura 2 years ago
Aww, I figured we'd get the chance before the plane even took off. I believe in coming to these things PREPARED! ;)
BionicDance 2 years ago 2
lol awesome
JustaEropeanGuy 2 years ago